CIP OgHu of Trog

[Dolgar]

Hi there ! I started an Ogre for the fist time. I chose to follow Trog because I didn't know which god would be good with this character. I am at the first floor of Lair, and I have a few questions. But before questions, here's the morgue file :

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19.1 (tiles) character file.

Dolgar the Basher (Ogre Hunter)                    Turns: 12031, Time: 00:43:21

HP:   111/111 (114) AC:  5    Str: 21    XL:     10   Next: 19%
MP:   10/10         EV: 10    Int: 10    God:    Trog [***...]
Gold: 370           SH:  0    Dex: 11    Spells: 0 memorised, 9 levels left

rFire  + + .      SeeInvis +    x - +2 mace (drain)
rCold  + . .      Gourm    .    K - +2 robe {rC+ rF+}
rNeg   . . .      Faith    .    (no shield)
rPois  +          Spirit   .    (helmet restricted)
rElec  .          Reflect  .    (no cloak)
rCorr  .          Harm     .    (gloves unavailable)
MR     +....                    (boots unavailable)
Stlth  +.........               (no amulet)
                                D - ring of protection from fire
                                u - ring "Vecorchu" {rPois SInv}

@: no status effects
A: unfitting armour, talons 1, tough skin 1
a: Berserk, Trog's Hand, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion


You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Trog.
Trog is most pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 11 of its levels.

You have collected 370 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 c - a giant spiked club
 x - a +2 mace of draining (weapon)
Missiles
 d - 2 large rocks (quivered)
 h - a throwing net
Armour
 K - a +2 robe of resistance (worn)
Jewellery
 a - a large marble ring
 u - the ring "Vecorchu" (left hand) {rPois SInv}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of see invisible]
   
   It protects you from poison.
   It lets you see invisible.
 D - a ring of protection from fire (right hand)
Wands
 b - a wand of polymorph
 M - a wand of lightning
 N - a wand of digging
Scrolls
 g - 2 scrolls of teleportation
 p - a scroll of fog
 y - 3 scrolls of fear
 B - a scroll of immolation
Potions
 e - a potion of resistance
 o - a potion of ambrosia
 q - a potion of flight
 r - a potion of lignification
 s - 4 potions of haste
 t - a potion of agility
 v - a fuming cyan potion
 F - a fuming puce potion
 I - a bubbling cyan potion
 J - 3 potions of might
 L - a white potion
Comestibles
 f - 6 bread rations
 i - 9 beef jerkies
 j - 2 meat rations
 l - 4 slices of pizza
 n - 7 fruits


   Skills:
 + Level 11,2 Fighting
 * Level 14,3 Maces & Flails
 - Level 4,0 Throwing
 - Level 1,7 Dodging
 - Level 0,6 Stealth


You have 9 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (9/15)             Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (1/6) D:9
   Orc: D:9-12     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:4 **}*(   D:7 (   D:8 (


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have tough skin. (AC +1)
You have sharp toenails.


Message History

The adder skeleton is moderately damaged.
You sock the adder skeleton! You claw the adder skeleton.
The adder skeleton is almost destroyed.
The adder skeleton closely misses you.
You sock the adder skeleton!
You destroy the adder skeleton!
Trog accepts your kill.
All of the chunks of flesh in your inventory have rotted away.
Done exploring.
Done exploring.
Move the cursor to view the level map, or type ? for a list of commands.
Returning to the game...
There is a stone staircase leading up, spattered with blood here.
Things that are here:
a dagger; a robe
You see here a whip.
There is a staircase to the Lair here.
You climb downwards. Welcome to the Lair of Beasts!
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
Save game and exit?

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  A gargoyle (D:9)
  A mottled dragon (D:9)
  2 wargs (D:8)
  An ice beast (D:7)
  3 orc warriors
  2 necrophages
  2 phantoms
  3 black bears
  3 sky beasts
  5 ogres
  A bullfrog (D:7)
  A big kobold (D:7)
  2 scorpions
  A howler monkey (D:6)
  A crimson imp (D:6)
  4 quasits
  A hound (D:9)
  2 orc priests
  A centaur skeleton (D:5)
  4 jellies
  2 bullfrog zombies
  2 bullfrog skeletons
  An iguana (D:6)
  10 orc wizards
  4 worker ants
  A killer bee zombie (D:7)
  A mummy (D:6)
  A hound zombie (D:9)
  Robin (D:4)
  A gnoll (D:9)
  10 adders
  A shadow imp (D:6)
  3 oozes
  2 adder skeletons
  An adder zombie (D:8)
  A dart slug (D:1)
  6 leopard geckos
  35 orcs
  9 bats
  7 giant cockroaches
  21 goblins
  10 hobgoblins
  15 jackals
  6 quokkas
  2 frilled lizards
  2 gnoll zombies (D:4)
  A hobgoblin zombie (D:6)
  10 kobolds
  3 orc zombies (D:6)
  2 quokka skeletons
  9 rats
221 creatures vanquished.

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Dolgar the Ogre Hunter began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 22/22 MP: 1/1
    60 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails
   299 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 30/31 MP: 2/2
   580 | D:1      | Reached skill level 2 in Maces & Flails
   783 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 39/39 MP: 3/3
  1455 | D:1      | You fall through a shaft!
  1699 | D:2      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
  1995 | D:2      | Reached skill level 3 in Maces & Flails
  2027 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 47/49 MP: 4/4
  2294 | D:2      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  2787 | D:2      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  2787 | D:2      | Noticed a blizzard demon
  2790 | D:2      | Noticed an orange demon
  2790 | D:2      | Noticed a smoke demon
  2892 | D:3      | Reached skill level 4 in Maces & Flails
  2895 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 33/55 MP: 5/5
  2908 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  3663 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  4304 | D:4      | Found Lautz's Gadget Shoppe.
  4321 | D:4      | Found Xuan's General Store.
  4440 | D:4      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  4481 | D:4      | Found Lyiv's General Store.
  4522 | D:4      | Found Zomac's Weapon Shoppe.
  4616 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 63/67 MP: 6/6
  4746 | D:4      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
  4765 | D:4      | Got a scorched marble ring
  4829 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4841 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5103 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Trog the Wrathful
  5282 | D:4      | Identified the ring "Vecorchu" {rPois SInv} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)
  5481 | D:4      | Found Yraoxali's Assorted Antiques.
  5817 | D:4      | Noticed Robin
  5829 | D:4      | Killed Robin
  5879 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5989 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  6149 | D:5      | Noticed a phantom
  6211 | D:5      | Killed a phantom
  6497 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  6497 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 67/76 MP: 7/7
  6714 | D:5      | Reached * piety under Trog
  6927 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  7159 | D:5      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  7440 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 86/88 MP: 8/8
  7449 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You have sharp toenails. [potion of beneficial mutation]
  7574 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  8184 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  8218 | D:6      | Reached ** piety under Trog
  8596 | D:7      | Found Tashruox's Weapon Boutique.
  8820 | D:7      | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
  9081 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 92/97 MP: 9/9
  9612 | D:8      | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
  9726 | D:8      | Found Ixisk's Weapon Shop.
  9927 | D:8      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  9952 | D:8      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
 10265 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 10719 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 10737 | D:9      | Reached *** piety under Trog
 10828 | D:9      | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
 11040 | D:9      | Noticed a gargoyle
 11067 | D:9      | Killed a gargoyle
 11067 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 68/108 MP: 10/10
 11281 | D:9      | Reached skill level 14 in Maces & Flails
 12030 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 |
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Fighting       |  3     4     5  6  7  9 10 11 | 11,2
Maces & Flails |  1  2  3  4  5  7  8 11 13 14 | 14,3
Throwing       |                               |  4,0
Dodging        |                               |  1,7
Stealth        |                               |  0,6

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Club              |    76 |       |       |       ||    76
       Short sword       |     3 |       |       |       ||     3
       Whip              |    80 |   192 |       |       ||   272
       Mace              |       |    44 |   292 |    41 ||   377
       Kick              |       |       |    58 |     7 ||    65
Throw: Large rock        |    20 |    45 |    33 |     4 ||   102
       Throwing net      |     2 |     3 |     1 |     1 ||     7
Invok: Burn Spellbooks   |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |       |     3 |    15 |       ||    18
       Potion            |       |       |     3 |       ||     3
 Stab: Sleeping          |     2 |       |       |       ||     2
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     4 |    12 |     7 |     3 ||    26
       Fruit             |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Bread ration      |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
Armor: Robe              |    69 |    44 |    74 |    11 ||   198
Dodge: Dodged            |   109 |   102 |   120 |    19 ||   350



I think to keep my mace until I reach minimum delay for the giant spiked club.

Should I begin to train Dodging from now or armour ? Or should I begin to train Throwing ?

[VeryAngryFelid]

Training Armour in robe is a bad idea, you will need 11 levels to get a single AC (base armour of robe is 2, you have no aux armour at this time and 22/2=11). Training dodging is a good idea, also keep training M&F and Fighting. Trog is the best god for the character because it provides berserk, MR++, nasty summons and artefact giant (spiked) clubs.

[Dolgar]

I focus M&F until the mindelay of my spiked club. And I will now train Dodging and avoid armour. Thanks

[Leszczynek]

Go back, find a giant club (not spiked) and wield it immediately. Switch to a giant spiked club at about 21-22 M&F

[Dolgar]

Unfortunately, my ogre died a floor 3 of Lair. I met a pack of wolves, which leaves me at 15 HP and polar bears finished the job. Tried to haste and escape, but polar bears managed to have a snack. I'll try another run to have a giant club before lair.

[TonberryJam]

Don't forget to use Trog's Hand every fight. Use berserk strategically. Best to use berserk against singular tough opponents or small groups. If you encounter packs feel free to use Brother's in Arms 2 or 3 times.

What you want to avoid is getting hit hard, then realizing you need to berserk, but forgot to use Trog's Hand yet and realized you're surrounded by a pack and need to start with Brother's in Arms first.

BoA can also deal with tough singular opponents in emergency situations, but the piety is costly if used often in this manner.

[Dolgar]

I often forget Brother's in Arms. It's a mistake I won't reproduce again.

[VeryAngryFelid]

Don't use Trog's hand every fight, it costs piety.