CiP : SpTm^Chei

Monday, 5th September 2016, 11:25 by mopl

Don't ask about the background itself : I try to win all Tm playing them as intended. Sp^Chei is a combo I always wanted to try, and it's doing quite well so far. I know that I should be using this dtrident and train some Necro, but let's say it's a self-imposed challenge !

I have both the Brooch of Shielding and an amulet of Faith : which one is better ? Also, I just found a Pearl Dragon hide : should I enchant and use it ? (my guess is YES !)

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1442-g3b32ff5 (webtiles) character file. mopl the Martial Artist (Spriggan Transmuter) Turns: 22260, Time: 01:21:09 Health: 80/80 AC: 7 Str: 24 XL: 15 Next: 38% Magic: 27/27 EV: 38 Int: 32 God: Cheibriados [******] Gold: 982 SH: 0 Dex: 33 Spells: 9 memorised, 4 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + - Unarmed rCold + . . Gourm . w - +2 troll leather armour {rC+} rNeg . . . Faith + (shield restricted) rPois . Spirit . (helmet restricted) rElec . Dismiss . p - +0 cloak rCorr . Reflect . (gloves unavailable) MR ++... Harm . (boots unavailable) Stlth ++++...... y - amulet of faith {!P} j - +3 ring of evasion e - +4 ring of evasion {=R} @: very slow A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2 a: Bend Time, Temporal Distortion, Slouch, Step From Time, Renounce Religion You are on level 13 of the Dungeon. You worship Cheibriados. Cheibriados is exalted by your worship. You are hungry. You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 22 of its levels. You have also visited: Sewer, Ossuary and Ice Cave. You have collected 2126 gold pieces. You have spent 1144 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand Weapons s - the +8 demon trident of the Wilderness {pain, MR+} (You found it in an ice cave) In the hands of one skilled in necromantic magic, it inflicts extra damage on living creatures. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. Missiles a - 138 arrows f - 4 throwing nets o - 28 tomahawks (quivered) u - 24 poisoned needles Armour i - a +2 robe of resistance p - a +0 cloak (worn) w - a +2 troll leather armour of cold resistance (worn) F - a pearl dragon hide U - a buckler Rods P - a +0 rod of ignition (12/12) {!a} (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon) Jewellery e - a +4 ring of evasion (left hand) {=R} j - a +3 ring of evasion (right hand) l - an uncursed ring of protection from magic q - the brooch of Shielding {Reflect SH+8} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines) [amulet of reflection] It shields you and reflects attacks. It affects your SH (+8). y - an amulet of faith (around neck) {!P} H - an uncursed ring of positive energy N - an uncursed amulet of magic regeneration Wands I - a wand of paralysis K - a wand of polymorph L - a wand of disintegration Q - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 9} S - a wand of digging {zapped: 3} Scrolls b - 4 scrolls of fear g - 9 scrolls of remove curse h - 6 scrolls of recharging m - 12 scrolls of teleportation n - a scroll of identify x - 3 scrolls of blinking A - 3 scrolls of magic mapping D - 2 scrolls of fog J - a scroll of immolation O - 2 scrolls of vulnerability T - 3 scrolls of silence {!r} V - a scroll of enchant armour Potions d - 7 potions of agility k - 13 potions of curing r - 6 potions of flight t - 7 potions of lignification {!q} z - 2 potions of resistance B - 4 potions of heal wounds C - 2 potions of invisibility G - 3 potions of ambrosia M - 3 potions of might Books c - a book of Death Spells Type Level a - Corpse Rot Necromancy 2 b - Sublimation of Blood Necromancy 2 c - Agony Necromancy 5 d - Dispel Undead Necromancy 5 e - Excruciating Wounds Charms/Necromancy 5 f - Bolt of Draining Conjuration/Necromancy 5 Comestibles v - 10 bread rations E - 2 fruits R - a slice of pizza Skills: + Level 10.1 Fighting + Level 2.7 Throwing - Level 10.1 Dodging - Level 5.0 Stealth - Level 1.0 Shields * Level 14.0 Unarmed Combat - Level 7.4 Spellcasting - Level 9.0 Transmutations - Level 2.0 Ice Magic - Level 5.0 Air Magic - Level 1.0 Poison Magic * Level 12.7 Invocations - Level 3.6 Evocations You have 4 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Beastly Appendage Tmut ###### 1% 1 None b - Spider Form Tmut/Pois #####..... 1% 3 None c - Blade Hands Tmut ######.... 3% 5 ####... d - Ice Form Ice/Tmut #####... 6% 4 #...... m - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air ###..... 10% 3 None r - Regeneration Chrm/Necr ##........ 17% 3 None w - Sticks to Snakes Tmut ######.. 1% 2 None x - Animate Skeleton Necr N/A 6% 1 None C - Corpse Rot Necr N/A 10% 2 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (13/15) Temple (1/1) D:5 Lair (6/6) D:11 Swamp (0/4) Lair:2 Snake (0/4) Lair:2 Slime (0/5) Lair:5 Orc (2/2) D:11 Elf (0/3) Orc:2 Vaults: D:13-14 Altars: Cheibriados Dithmenos Gozag Nemelex Xobeh Trog Uskayaw Vehumet Xom The Shining One Shops: D:4 ( D:7 ( D:8 ! D:11 ! Orc:2 (*[: Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv) You are a herbivore. You cover ground extremely quickly. You need consume almost no food. Message History You destroy the phantom! Cheibriados thoroughly appreciates the change of pace. No target in view! No target in view! There is an open door here. You open the door. There is an open door here. You open the door. There is an open door here. You open the door. There is an open door here. You open the door. There is an open door here. There is an open door here. There is an open door here. You see here a wand of flame. There is an open door here. You are feeling hungry. Found 18 stones. Done exploring. .......#..).#...........# ..).....#..#..##'##.....## ...#....######...##......# '#.####.# #....######### ...# ### #(....# ...# #.....# ...# #.....# ..## #..#.#### ### ####@...# #....## #....# ###### There are no monsters in sight!

Monday, 5th September 2016, 19:35 by and into

In my view, hard question about the amulet. How difficult is it to maintain high piety with a spriggan of chei? I've never played one. If you had no amulet equipped currently and were already at six stars, I'd go with brooch, but I'm not sure how badly you will be set back by the piety hit from taking off faith....

PDA is a great choice for this character but you might want to train spells a bit first so that your success doesn't tank. So I'd probably get a bit more invocations, train spells a bit more and then swap to PDA, then train some armor (and more dodging). I think your UC is about right for a while.

Monday, 5th September 2016, 19:38 by Eyesburn

nice char,
I would use Brooch instead of faith,
with pearl dragon armour (and some armour training) you'll have good AC/EV,
but guess you will switch to the statue form at some point ?

Monday, 5th September 2016, 22:41 by BabyRage

How good is sp of chei? Seems kinda pointless to me.

Wednesday, 7th September 2016, 13:39 by mopl

BabyRage wrote:How good is sp of chei? Seems kinda pointless to me.

Actually not that bad !

I have some concerns about my shopping-list, here's what's in :

Code:: 11 things, total 6554 gold [a-z] travel|examine|delete [?/!] change action a - [D:8] 64 gold a potion of brilliance b - [D:8] 96 gold 2 potions of flight c - [D:8] 128 gold a potion of ambrosia d - [D:7] 161 gold a shimmering dagger e - [Elf:2] 420 gold a book of Geomancy (unknown) f - [Elf:2] 780 gold a book of the Earth (unknown) g - [Elf:2] 780 gold a book of Spatial Translocations (unknown) h - [Orc:2] 900 gold a book of Enchantments (unknown) i - [Elf:1] 935 gold the +5 robe of Night {Dark MR+ SInv} j - [Elf:2] 1080 gold a book of the Dragon (unknown) k - [Elf:1] 1210 gold a crude fire dragon armour You have 1563 gp

The main possibilities are the Book of Earth (Statue Form), the Robe of Night (DimLight is probably good for a Chei-worhsipper that can't flee, but it's a pity to stay in a robe with 20+ Str), and the gamble on a randart FDA.

Spatial Translocation is always good and Geomancy is nice if I go for SF.

I'm not sure though that SF is a good idea, especially because I can use a PDA ; with neither boots nor gloves, it's probably still better on an SP than on other races. I also consider Tornado as an option.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1468-ge013c26 (webtiles) character file. mopl the Black Belt (Spriggan Transmuter) Turns: 34298, Time: 02:34:40 Health: 102/102 AC: 15 Str: 24 XL: 19 Next: 13% Magic: 36/36 EV: 40 Int: 33 God: Cheibriados [******] Gold: 1563 SH: 18 Dex: 33 Spells: 12 memorised, 4 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + - Unarmed rCold + . . Gourm . w - +2 troll leather armour {rC+} rNeg . . . Faith . n - +0 buckler {reflect} rPois + Spirit . J - +0 hat rElec . Dismiss . E - +0 cloak {rPois} rCorr . Reflect + (gloves unavailable) MR +++.. Harm . (boots unavailable) Stlth ++++...... q - brooch of Shielding {Reflect SH+8} h - ring of Robustness {AC+8, =R} e - +4 ring of evasion @: very slow A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2 a: Bend Time, Temporal Distortion, Slouch, Step From Time, Renounce Religion }: 2/15 runes: decaying, serpentine You are on level 2 of the Elven Halls. You worship Cheibriados. Cheibriados is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 34 of its levels. You have also visited: Labyrinth, Sewer, Ossuary and Ice Cave. You have collected 3026 gold pieces. You have spent 1463 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand Weapons b - a +0 blowgun Missiles a - 665 arrows f - 5 throwing nets o - 35 tomahawks (quivered) u - 98 poisoned needles Armour i - a +2 robe of resistance n - a +0 buckler of reflection (worn) w - a +2 troll leather armour of cold resistance (worn) E - a +0 cloak of poison resistance (worn) F - a +0 pearl dragon armour I - the +2 cloak of the Flute {MR+ Str+2} (You bought it in a shop on level 1 of the Elven Halls) It affects your strength (+2). It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. J - a +0 hat (worn) Rods p - a +5 lightning rod (9/9) (You took it off a minotaur in a labyrinth) P - a +0 rod of ignition (12/12) {!a} (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon) Jewellery e - a +4 ring of evasion (left hand) h - the ring of Robustness (right hand) {AC+8, =R} (You found it on level 1 of the Snake Pit) [ring of protection] It affects your AC (+8). l - an uncursed ring of protection from magic q - the brooch of Shielding (around neck) {Reflect SH+8} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines) [amulet of reflection] It shields you and reflects attacks. It affects your SH (+8). H - an uncursed ring of positive energy Wands c - a wand of paralysis j - a wand of paralysis s - a wand of acid y - a wand of iceblast K - a wand of polymorph L - a wand of disintegration Q - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 9} U - a wand of polymorph W - a wand of heal wounds (7/9) Z - a wand of digging (16/24) Scrolls g - 16 scrolls of remove curse m - 15 scrolls of teleportation x - 6 scrolls of blinking A - 5 scrolls of magic mapping D - 6 scrolls of fog N - 9 scrolls of identify O - 5 scrolls of vulnerability T - 3 scrolls of silence {!r} V - a scroll of enchant weapon Y - 4 scrolls of fear Potions d - 8 potions of agility k - 19 potions of curing r - 9 potions of flight t - 9 potions of lignification {!q} z - 3 potions of resistance B - 4 potions of heal wounds C - 4 potions of invisibility G - 3 potions of ambrosia M - 4 potions of might Miscellaneous S - a phial of floods X - a phantom mirror Comestibles v - 12 bread rations R - a royal jelly Skills: + Level 12.5 Fighting - Level 3.6 Throwing - Level 15.0 Dodging + Level 5.5 Stealth - Level 5.0 Shields - Level 15.0 Unarmed Combat + Level 12.0 Spellcasting - Level 5.0 Conjurations - Level 5.2 Charms - Level 3.0 Necromancy - Level 13.0 Transmutations - Level 2.0 Ice Magic + Level 7.6 Air Magic - Level 1.0 Poison Magic - Level 14.4 Invocations - Level 5.0 Evocations You have 4 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Beastly Appendage Tmut ###### 0% 1 None b - Spider Form Tmut/Pois ######.... 1% 3 None c - Blade Hands Tmut #######... 1% 5 #...... d - Ice Form Ice/Tmut ######.. 1% 4 None g - Ignite Poison Fire/Tmut/Pois ######.. 1% 3 None h - Hydra Form Tmut #######... 1% 6 ####... m - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air #####... 1% 3 None r - Regeneration Chrm/Necr #####..... 1% 3 None t - Irradiate Conj/Tmut ######.... 1% 5 #...... w - Sticks to Snakes Tmut #######. 1% 2 None x - Animate Skeleton Necr N/A 1% 1 None C - Corpse Rot Necr N/A 1% 2 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (1/1) D:5 Lair (6/6) D:11 Swamp (4/4) Lair:2 Snake (4/4) Lair:2 Slime (0/5) Lair:5 Orc (2/2) D:11 Elf (2/3) Orc:2 Vaults (0/5) D:14 Depths (0/5) D:15 Altars: Cheibriados Dithmenos Gozag Nemelex Xobeh Trog Uskayaw Vehumet Xom The Shining One Shops: D:4 ( D:7 ( D:8 ! D:11 ! D:15 [ Orc:2 (*[: Elf:1 [ Elf:2 : Annotations: Elf:2 3 runed doors Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv) You are a herbivore. You cover ground extremely quickly. You need consume almost no food. Message History The deep elf mage points at you and mumbles some strange words. Your +0 buckler of reflection reflects the shard of ice! The shard of ice misses the deep elf mage. You pummel the deep elf mage!! The deep elf mage is severely wounded. The deep elf mage mumbles some strange words. You pummel the deep elf mage!! You kill the deep elf mage! Cheibriados thoroughly appreciates the change of pace. The ice beast disappears in a puff of smoke! No target in view! No target in view! No target in view! Things that are here: an enchanted hand axe; a chain mail There is an open door here. There is an open door here. There is an open door here. Your magical contamination has completely faded away. Partly explored, obstructed by runed door. #...#...# #.....###...# ..#.#...# ##..^..####### .#...#..# #.......# .....#..# ##.......## ).###...# #.......).# ##....### ##.......).## ......# #...##.##...# ####### #.####.####.# ### #@# ### +++ There are no monsters in sight!

Thursday, 8th September 2016, 10:33 by mopl

I found a Geomancy and some other cool books...

Here's a new dump. I want to learn both Yara and Confusing Touch (it's the best spell ever for Tm, right ?) What spells would you forget in my list ?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1490-g5dd3618 (webtiles) character file. mopl the Black Belt (Spriggan Transmuter) Turns: 38769, Time: 03:07:50 Health: 109/109 AC: 17 Str: 26 XL: 20 Next: 63% Magic: 39/39 EV: 41 Int: 33 God: Cheibriados [******] Gold: 1765 SH: 18 Dex: 34 Spells: 14 memorised, 0 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + - Unarmed rCold + . . Gourm . w - +2 troll leather armour {rC+} rNeg . . . Faith . n - +0 buckler {reflect} rPois . Spirit . J - +0 hat rElec . Dismiss . I - +2 cloak of the Flute {MR+ Str+2} rCorr . Reflect + (gloves unavailable) MR ++++. Harm . (boots unavailable) Stlth ++++++.... q - brooch of Shielding {Reflect SH+8} h - ring of Robustness {AC+8, =R} e - +4 ring of evasion @: repel missiles, very slow A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2 a: Bend Time, Temporal Distortion, Slouch, Step From Time, Renounce Religion }: 2/15 runes: decaying, serpentine You are on level 2 of the Vaults. You worship Cheibriados. Cheibriados is exalted by your worship. You are full. You have visited 8 branches of the dungeon, and seen 37 of its levels. You have also visited: Labyrinth, Sewer, Ossuary and Ice Cave. You have collected 3788 gold pieces. You have spent 2023 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Missiles a - 1015 arrows f - 5 throwing nets o - 44 tomahawks (quivered) Armour i - a +2 robe of resistance n - a +0 buckler of reflection (worn) w - a +2 troll leather armour of cold resistance (worn) F - a +1 pearl dragon armour I - the +2 cloak of the Flute (worn) {MR+ Str+2} (You bought it in a shop on level 1 of the Elven Halls) It affects your strength (+2). It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. J - a +0 hat (worn) Rods p - a +5 lightning rod (9/9) (You took it off a minotaur in a labyrinth) P - a +0 rod of ignition (12/12) {!a} (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon) Jewellery e - a +4 ring of evasion (left hand) h - the ring of Robustness (right hand) {AC+8, =R} (You found it on level 1 of the Snake Pit) [ring of protection] It affects your AC (+8). q - the brooch of Shielding (around neck) {Reflect SH+8} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines) [amulet of reflection] It shields you and reflects attacks. It affects your SH (+8). Wands b - a wand of paralysis j - a wand of paralysis l - a wand of polymorph s - a wand of acid y - a wand of iceblast E - a wand of polymorph L - a wand of disintegration Q - a wand of teleportation (2/9) U - a wand of polymorph W - a wand of heal wounds (7/9) Z - a wand of digging (16/24) Scrolls g - 20 scrolls of remove curse m - 16 scrolls of teleportation u - 2 scrolls of amnesia x - 6 scrolls of blinking A - 6 scrolls of magic mapping D - 7 scrolls of fog H - a scroll of enchant weapon N - 12 scrolls of identify O - 6 scrolls of vulnerability T - 2 scrolls of silence {!r} Y - 6 scrolls of fear Potions d - 9 potions of agility k - 20 potions of curing r - 8 potions of flight t - 10 potions of lignification {!q} z - 3 potions of resistance B - 4 potions of heal wounds C - 4 potions of invisibility G - 4 potions of ambrosia M - 4 potions of might Books R - a book of Misfortune Spells Type Level a - Confusing Touch Hexes 1 b - Confuse Hexes 3 c - Gell's Gravitas Hexes/Translocation 3 d - Petrify Transmutation/Earth 4 e - Metabolic Englaciation Hexes/Ice 5 f - Yara's Violent Unravelling Hexes/Transmutation 5 Miscellaneous c - a lamp of fire K - a sack of spiders S - a phial of floods V - a box of beasts X - a phantom mirror Comestibles v - 13 bread rations Skills: + Level 13.6 Fighting - Level 3.6 Throwing - Level 15.0 Dodging - Level 10.0 Stealth + Level 5.6 Shields * Level 15.4 Unarmed Combat + Level 14.3 Spellcasting - Level 5.0 Conjurations - Level 5.2 Charms - Level 3.0 Necromancy - Level 13.0 Transmutations - Level 2.0 Ice Magic + Level 10.0 Air Magic - Level 5.0 Poison Magic - Level 14.4 Invocations - Level 5.0 Evocations You cannot memorise any spells. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger b - Spider Form Tmut/Pois ######.... 1% 3 None c - Blade Hands Tmut #######... 1% 5 None d - Ice Form Ice/Tmut ######.. 1% 4 None e - Blink Tloc N/A 3% 2 None g - Ignite Poison Fire/Tmut/Pois ######.. 1% 3 None h - Hydra Form Tmut #######... 1% 6 ###.... i - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air ###### 1% 2 None m - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air ######.. 1% 3 None r - Regeneration Chrm/Necr ######.... 1% 3 None t - Irradiate Conj/Tmut ######.... 1% 5 None w - Sticks to Snakes Tmut #######. 0% 2 None x - Animate Skeleton Necr N/A 1% 1 None C - Corpse Rot Necr N/A 1% 2 None P - Poisonous Cloud Conj/Pois/Air ######.... 24% 6 ###.... Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (1/1) D:5 Lair (6/6) D:11 Swamp (4/4) Lair:2 Snake (4/4) Lair:2 Slime (0/5) Lair:5 Orc (2/2) D:11 Elf (3/3) Orc:2 Vaults (2/5) D:14 Crypt (0/3) Vaults:2 Depths (0/5) D:15 Altars: Cheibriados Dithmenos Gozag Nemelex Xobeh Sif Muna Trog Uskayaw Vehumet Xom The Shining One Shops: D:4 ( D:7 ( D:8 ! D:11 ! D:15 [ Orc:2 (*[: Elf:1 [ Elf:2 : Vaults:2 : Annotations: Elf:2 3 runed doors Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv) You are a herbivore. You cover ground extremely quickly. You need consume almost no food. Message History Unknown command. There is an open door here. u - 2 scrolls of amnesia (gained 1) Found a plate armour. You now have 1765 gold pieces (gained 32). Y - 6 scrolls of fear (gained 1) v - 13 bread rations (gained 1) Found a cloak. You open the door. There is an open door here. You open the door. Found a stone staircase leading down. There is an open door here. An ironbrand convoker comes into view. It is wielding a flail. The helpless ironbrand convoker fails to defend itself. You squash the ironbrand convoker like an ant!!! You kill the ironbrand convoker! Cheibriados appreciates the change of pace. No target in view! No target in view! ................................. ...[............................. ................................. ###############...........)†..... #.....##+########## #.....# #.....# #.....# #.@...# #..)..# #.....# ......# .......# ......... ........... ............. There are no monsters in sight!

Thursday, 8th September 2016, 11:18 by Sprucery

I'd forget Spider Form and Corpse Rot and you will get one more spell level soon from Spellcasting.

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