CIP SpEn of Ash needs direction (Now YAVP)

[dowan]

I have this little SpEn going, things are going fairly well but I feel the character is a bit too unfocused. There are lots of good spells available, and I'm having trouble picking which ones to actually use.

I just amnesiad darkness, with the intention of memorizing ozo's armor. I must have just gotten another spell slot, as I apparently had enough without using amnesia.

I'm currently training air, with the vague intention of getting tornado castable for the foes I can't stab through hexes or invisibility. Currently I'm using battlesphere and dazzling spray, with some fulminant prism to deal with enemies I can't stab.

I could probably afford to swap out both my rings, although I haven't seen any exciting rings to swap for.

There are lots and lots of books available, so feel free to just assume a spell is available, because it probably is.

There is also a scroll of acquirement for sale for 937 gold in orc, I'm just not sure what to acquire. I've already acquired a book(buglary, pretty good) and a lamp of fire, which I apparently dropped by mistake at some point...

I have the invisibility spell at 1% fail, and I also have a cloak of invis. No other branded cloaks exist, and I have the spell because it lasts quite a bit longer than the evokable, and is more reliable (evokable is 19% fail).

I've trained a lot of spellcasting... I've wanted spell slots all game, and as a spriggan spell hunger is more relevant than usual, but I probably have gone overboard here. It's hard to resist memorizing everything that looks nice...


So please, pick this character apart. Currently my biggest issue is magic immune and very high resistance monsters who cannot easily be blinded with dazzling spray.

  Code:

 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1182-g094b998 (webtiles) character file.

damiac the Spry (Spriggan Enchanter)               Turns: 54123, Time: 05:13:58

Health: 104/104    AC:  8    Str:  4    XL:     19   Next: 36%
Magic:  40/40      EV: 39    Int: 22    God:    Ashenzari [******]
Gold:   1398       SH:  7    Dex: 19    Spells: 12 memorised, 9 levels left

rFire  . . .      SeeInvis +    a - +4 dagger (elec) (curse)
rCold  . . .      Gourm    .    g - +2 robe {Archmagi} (curse)
rNeg   + . .      Faith    .    N - +0 buckler (curse)
rPois  .          Spirit   .    h - +1 hat {MR+} (curse)
rElec  .          Dismiss  .    w - +2 cloak {+Inv} (curse)
rCorr  .          Reflect  .    (gloves unavailable)
MR     +++++      Harm     .    (boots unavailable)
Stlth  ++++++++.. Clarity  +    b - amulet of the Four Winds {rN+ MR+++ Clar} (curse)
                                C - ring of stealth (curse)
                                x - ring of protection from magic (curse)

@: deflect missiles, very quick
A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2
a: Curse Item, Scrying, Transfer Knowledge, Renounce Religion, Evoke
Invisibility
}: 2/15 runes: barnacled, gossamer


You are on level 2 of the Vaults.
You worship Ashenzari.
Ashenzari is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 34 of its levels.

You have collected 3486 gold pieces.
You have spent 2088 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a cursed +4 dagger of electrocution (weapon)
Missiles
 r - 107 tomahawks (quivered)
Armour
 g - a cursed +2 robe of the Archmagi (worn)
 h - a cursed +1 hat of magic resistance (worn)
 w - a cursed +2 cloak of invisibility (worn)
 N - a cursed +0 buckler (worn)
Jewellery
 b - the cursed amulet of the Four Winds (around neck) {rN+ MR+++ Clar}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [amulet of nothing]
   
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It protects you against confusion.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 x - a cursed ring of protection from magic (left hand)
 C - a cursed ring of stealth (right hand)
 D - an uncursed ring of fire
 O - an uncursed ring of ice
 P - an uncursed ring of poison resistance
Wands
 c - a wand of paralysis
 k - a wand of lightning
 l - a wand of teleportation (4/9)
 m - a wand of confusion
 n - a wand of iceblast {zapped: 2}
 o - a wand of iceblast
 u - a wand of paralysis {recharged}
 K - a wand of digging {zapped: 3}
 T - a wand of digging
 W - a wand of lightning
Scrolls
 e - 10 scrolls of teleportation
 q - 9 scrolls of magic mapping
 v - 7 scrolls of remove curse
 y - 2 scrolls of blinking
 H - 3 scrolls of fog
 S - 18 scrolls of identify
 U - 3 scrolls of recharging
 X - 7 scrolls of fear
Potions
 f - 6 potions of haste
 j - 4 potions of agility
 t - 6 potions of heal wounds
 z - a potion of cancellation
 B - 2 potions of might
 I - a potion of invisibility
 L - 2 potions of cure mutation
 R - 15 potions of curing
 V - 4 potions of magic
Miscellaneous
 i - 2 sacks of spiders
 M - a phantom mirror
 Z - a disc of storms
Comestibles
 d - 18 bread rations
 s - 10 royal jellies


   Skills:
 + Level 13.0 Fighting
 - Level 8.8(13.2) Short Blades
 + Level 20.7(24.2) Dodging
 - Level 11.7(15.9) Stealth
 - Level 2.0(4.2) Shields
 + Level 16.0 Spellcasting
 - Level 5.4(9.9) Conjurations
 - Level 18.0(21.7) Hexes
 - Level 6.6(11.1) Charms
 - Level 4.0(8.2) Necromancy
 + Level 10.6(14.9) Air Magic
 - Level 9.9(14.2) Evocations


You have 9 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Corona                Hex            #######      0%          1    None
b - Ensorcelled Hibernat  Hex/Ice        ######       1%          2    None
c - Confuse               Hex            ########     0%          3    None
d - Tukima's Dance        Hex            ########     0%          3    None
e - Dazzling Spray        Conj/Hex       ######       1%          3    None
f - Fulminant Prism       Conj/Hex       #######...   1%          4    None
g - Invisibility          Hex            ########     1%          6    ####...
i - Airstrike             Air            #######...   1%          4    None
j - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ######....   1%          3    None
k - Animate Skeleton      Necr           N/A          1%          1    None
l - Iskenderun's Battles  Conj/Chrm      #######.     1%          5    ##.....
m - Deflect Missiles      Chrm/Air       #######...   2%          6    ####...


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (6/6) D:10
 Shoals (4/4) Lair:2       Spider (4/4) Lair:4        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:10            Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Vaults (2/5) D:13
 Depths (0/5) D:15       
 Crypt: Vaults:2-3 

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Pakellas

Shops:
D:7 (   D:11 !   D:15 }   Orc:1 !*   Orc:2 ?*!:   Vaults:1 (

Portals:
Trove: D:12 (give +2 fire dragon armour)

Annotations:
D:5 Menkaure
Lair:4 exclusion: oklob plant


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv)
You are a herbivore.
You cover ground extremely quickly.
You need consume almost no food.


[Sandman25]

Being "unfocused" is a benefit of Ash, you can have huge number of level 6+ spells without much cost if you have high Int.

Id wands, you have 18 scrolls and you are with Ash who ids gear automatically for you. It takes 7 Shields to remove penalties for Sp.
Everything else seems ok to me, make sure to visit Elf 1-2 after Vaults 4, it should be relatively easy with Invisibility (even Elf 3 is hilariously easy if you find Silence somewhere).

[dowan]

Hah, good point about needing 7 shields, I totally forgot about that!

Yeah, good point about IDing my wands too, I obviously have a bunch to spare.

I was thinking maybe I should take a trip to elf. Silence is available, so obviously I should memorize that.

How high do you think I'll need to get air magic to get tornado castable? And is tornado a good way to kill OOFs? I have only ever used it once, and I can't remember if it did well against high AC enemies. Obviously I'd use it on other monsters, but eventually I am going to want a way to kill OOFs...

[Sandman25]

I remember a thread recently where a player went for Tornado as SpEn of Ash. I was arguing hard with the rest of players who insisted that Tornado was a bad idea. It was a good idea according to me
It is not necessary but it makes game much easier. Make sure to put points into Int if you go for Tornado.

Tornado is ok vs high AC monsters and OoF.

[dowan]

I've been putting all my stat-ups into int. I don't think I need more dex, heh.

OK then, I'll stick with my plan of getting tornado castable, eventually. I guess I'll just keep training spellcasting, I want to memorize more spells than I have slots for...

Now I just hope that some resistance rings show up. I'd probably even trade my archmagi robe for a resistance robe. I'm a bit nervous about getting fireballed by fire giants...

[Sandman25]

Right, Archmagi becomes less useful late game due to spell power step down. Also you have partial Archmagi from Ash boost (10.6(14.9) Air Magic is almost Archmagi) and probably some of your spells are already beyond max spell power.

[ximxim]

Tornado is great but requires a lot of skill to get it reasonably castable (and obviously doesn't work in corridors), how much varies obviously but something like 20? Personal favourite way of dealing with OOF/other nasty stuff is malign gateway (just be wary of the chaos brand!), the Tloc investment helps with cblink as well.

I'm a fan of armour acquirement, especially for species like spriggans with limited slots.

[dowan]

An armor acq could get me a better shield, which would be nice, or a robe of resistance/rf. There is a robe of cold resistance, but with such high EV and dmsl I'm not terribly worried about cold damage. Can any enemies cast ice cloud anymore?

[Sandman25]

Can any enemies cast ice cloud anymore?

Wait, was Freezing Cloud removed in trunk?

[dowan]

No, at least, not that I know of, I just thought that maybe freezing cloud had been removed from tengu reavers because they killed their allies more than the player usually. I seem to recall something along those lines at some point, but I could very well be misremembering.

In fact, I have a book of clouds, so I could memorize freezing cloud. I don't think I will though, even though it's a good spell.

[Sandman25]

I love Freezing/Poisonous Cloud, especially for Sp/Fe and especially for Elf. You have both reasons in your game


Edit. It can be castable in no time with your Conj/Air and Ash.

[ximxim]

An armor acq could get me a better shield, which would be nice, or a robe of resistance/rf. There is a robe of cold resistance, but with such high EV and dmsl I'm not terribly worried about cold damage. Can any enemies cast ice cloud anymore?

Also cloak of rpois or MR, and hat of int. Decent chance for a randart as well. Outside of extended only freezing cloud monsters I recall are ice statues.

[dowan]

Well, I can confirm reavers still have it, so I must have just been imagining things.
I have more than enough MR as is, ideally I'd want an int hat, an rpois cloak, rf or rc+rf buckler (does that even exist?), and rc+rf robe (I know that does exist). That's not considering artifacts of course.
My cloak of invis is almost useless now, more hunger, less duration, more fail chance. The only good thing is less MP, and it's cancellable, if that even matters.

I also found a haste wand recently, so I'm even less likely to acquire a wand.

Honestly, it's spell slots I'm more worried about than being able to cast the spell. Although I probably should just get it, freezing cloud is a good spell... Now that forgetting things from books is removed I am a bit more careful about memorizing spells.

[Sandman25]

Some neighbor thread has a character with rF+/rC+ buckler so I am sure it still exists.

Yes, I wrote recently, Ash is bad because you can use lots of spells but you have no spell slots

Edit. That's why I prefer to play stable.

[dowan]

So I've made some progress, finished elf, and made it through most of depths. Tornado is at 14% fail, 6% with wizardry, but still red. I'm exclusively training spellcasting and air. I know I'd get tornado castable faster if I'd just focus air, but I'd like to get the hunger cost down a little anyway, plus I could really use the spell slots. I have no room for darkness or silence at the moment, and both would be nice (Does tornado hit monsters past LOS under darkness?)

A cacodemon in a vault managed to malmutate me twice, but all I got was -2 dex and -1 ac from unfitting armor. Not too bad.
I'm beginning to think I should use a different amulet. I seem to have excessive amounts of MR as it is, and clarity is useless since I'm with ash. There aren't any amazing amulets available, but there's a magic regen at least.

In other news, a book of annihilation dropped, although I'll probably never have enough spell slots to use it... chain lightning is at 14% fail, and it'd be nice to have it, but would I rather have that than darkness? I don't know...

So overall the character has solidified a decent amount, and I'm able to land hexes on iron trolls and things with similar MR, so it's going pretty well. I will have to make a decision on where to get my 3rd rune fairly soon. If I manage to get tornado going by the time I finish depths I guess I'll just go for vaults 5. Normally with such a stealthy character I'd do abyss, but I don't feel comfortable at all with my ability to kill the monsters that show up in abyss.

  Code:

 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1188-g4c2e17c (webtiles) character file.

damiac the Cloud Mage (Spriggan Enchanter)         Turns: 87665, Time: 09:28:15

Health: 137/137    AC: 15    Str:  6    XL:     25   Next: 22%
Magic:  48/48      EV: 39    Int: 28    God:    Ashenzari [******]
Gold:   1152       SH: 10    Dex: 19    Spells: 15 memorised, 5 levels left

rFire  + . .      SeeInvis +    a - +9 dagger (elec) (curse)
rCold  + . .      Gourm    .    g - +2 robe {Archmagi} (curse)
rNeg   + . .      Faith    .    Z - +2 buckler {AC+3} (curse)
rPois  +          Spirit   .    h - +2 hat {MR+} (curse)
rElec  .          Dismiss  .    n - +2 cloak {rPois} (curse)
rCorr  +          Reflect  .    (gloves unavailable)
MR     +++++      Harm     .    (boots unavailable)
Stlth  +++++++++. Clarity  +    b - amulet of the Four Winds {rN+ MR+++ Clar} (curse)
                                I - ring "Oppysu" {rF+ AC+4 Str+2}
                                Q - ring of Hoguel {rCorr rC+ MR+ Int+4} (curse)

@: deflect missiles, very quick
A: unfitting armour, see invisible, clumsy 1, deformed body, herbivore 3, speed
3, slow metabolism 2
a: Curse Item, Scrying, Transfer Knowledge, Renounce Religion
}: 2/15 runes: barnacled, gossamer


You are on level 5 of the Depths.
You worship Ashenzari.
Ashenzari is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 9 branches of the dungeon, and seen 44 of its levels.
You have also visited: Wizlab.

You have collected 5750 gold pieces.
You have spent 4598 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a cursed +9 dagger of electrocution (weapon)
Missiles
 r - 112 tomahawks (quivered)
Armour
 g - a cursed +2 robe of the Archmagi (worn)
 h - a cursed +2 hat of magic resistance (worn)
 n - a cursed +2 cloak of poison resistance (worn)
 Z - a cursed +2 buckler of protection (worn)
Jewellery
 b - the cursed amulet of the Four Winds (around neck) {rN+ MR+++ Clar}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [amulet of nothing]
   
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It protects you against confusion.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 D - an uncursed ring of fire
 I - the ring "Oppysu" (right hand) {rF+ AC+4 Str+2}
   (You took it off an ogre mage on level 4 of the Depths)   
   
   [ring of protection]
   
   It affects your AC (+4).
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It protects you from fire.
 Q - the cursed ring of Hoguel (left hand) {rCorr rC+ MR+ Int+4}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 1 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of resist corrosion]
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 Y - an uncursed ring of wizardry
Wands
 c - a wand of paralysis (8/24)
 k - a wand of lightning (10/15)
 m - a wand of acid (6/15)
 u - a wand of paralysis (20/24)
 w - a wand of acid (7/15)
 x - a wand of iceblast (10/15)
 A - a wand of digging
 F - a wand of hasting (3/9)
 J - a wand of teleportation (6/9)
 K - a wand of digging (6/24)
 T - a wand of digging (19/24)
 W - a wand of lightning
Scrolls
 e - 15 scrolls of teleportation
 l - 2 scrolls of enchant armour
 q - 10 scrolls of magic mapping
 v - 6 scrolls of remove curse
 y - 6 scrolls of blinking
 H - 5 scrolls of fog
 S - 21 scrolls of identify
 U - 4 scrolls of recharging
 X - 9 scrolls of fear
Potions
 j - 7 potions of agility
 p - 4 potions of flight
 t - 8 potions of heal wounds
 z - 6 potions of cancellation
 B - 3 potions of might
 C - a potion of haste
 E - a potion of ambrosia
 G - 3 potions of brilliance
 L - 3 potions of cure mutation
 N - a potion of invisibility
 R - 28 potions of curing
 V - 4 potions of magic
Books
 f - a Grand Grimoire   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Monstrous Menagerie          Summoning                     7
    b - Summon Greater Demon         Summoning                     7
    c - Malign Gateway               Summoning/Translocation       7
    d - Summon Horrible Things       Summoning                     8
 s - a book of the Dragon   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Flame Tongue                 Conjuration/Fire              1
    b - Cause Fear                   Hexes                         4
    c - Bolt of Fire                 Conjuration/Fire              6
    d - Dragon Form                  Transmutation                 7
    e - Dragon's Call                Summoning                     9
 O - a book of Annihilations   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Poison Arrow                 Conjuration/Poison            6
    b - Chain Lightning              Conjuration/Air               8
    c - Lehudib's Crystal Spear      Conjuration/Earth             8
    d - Glaciate                     Conjuration/Ice               9
    e - Fire Storm                   Conjuration/Fire              9
Miscellaneous
 i - 3 sacks of spiders
 o - a lamp of fire
 M - 3 phantom mirrors
Comestibles
 d - 26 bread rations


   Skills:
 - Level 16.0 Fighting
 - Level 10.7(15.0) Short Blades
 - Level 20.7(24.2) Dodging
 - Level 17.0(20.8) Stealth
 - Level 4.8(7.8) Shields
 + Level 20.9 Spellcasting
 - Level 5.4(8.4) Conjurations
 - Level 18.0(20.4) Hexes
 - Level 6.6(9.7) Charms
 - Level 4.0(6.8) Necromancy
 - Level 6.4(9.5) Ice Magic
 * Level 21.4(23.5) Air Magic
 - Level 9.9(12.7) Evocations


You have 5 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Tornado               Air            ########..   14%         9    ######.
b - Ensorcelled Hibernat  Hex/Ice        ######       0%          2    None
c - Confuse               Hex            ########     0%          3    None
d - Tukima's Dance        Hex            ########     0%          3    None
e - Dazzling Spray        Conj/Hex       ######       0%          3    None
f - Fulminant Prism       Conj/Hex       ########..   1%          4    None
g - Invisibility          Hex            ########     1%          6    None
h - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       #######.     1%          3    None
i - Airstrike             Air            ########..   0%          4    None
j - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      #######...   1%          3    None
k - Animate Skeleton      Necr           N/A          1%          1    None
l - Iskenderun's Battles  Conj/Chrm      #######.     1%          5    None
m - Deflect Missiles      Chrm/Air       ########..   1%          6    None
n - Freezing Cloud        Conj/Ice/Air   ########..   1%          6    None
o - Sublimation of Blood  Necr           #######...   1%          2    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (6/6) D:10
 Shoals (4/4) Lair:2       Spider (4/4) Lair:4        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:10            Elf (3/3) Orc:2        Vaults (4/5) D:13
  Crypt (0/3) Vaults:3     Depths (5/5) D:15            Zot (0/5) Depths:5

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:7 (   D:11 !   D:15 }   Orc:1 !*   Orc:2 ?*!:   Elf:1 =   Vaults:1 (
Vaults:3 (   Depths:1 ?

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Abyss: Depths:4
Pandemonium: Depths:2 Depths:3
Ziggurat: Depths:3
Trove: D:12 (give +2 fire dragon armour)

Annotations:
D:5 Menkaure
Lair:4 exclusion: oklob plant
Elf:2 2 runed doors


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv)
You are a herbivore.
You cover ground extremely quickly.
You need consume almost no food.
You are clumsy. (Dex -2)
Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.

[Sandman25]

Why don't you curse another ring? It will help with Tornado a lot.

[dowan]

Well, I'm not sure if cursing the rF+AC+ ring will give me the edge needed to get it castable, and I want to keep the option to swap freely to that ring, as it's my only source of rF. I was thinking I'd swap to the wiz ring when I get tornado just barely castable, and once it's got a decent success rate, I'd lose the wiz ring and curse the rF ring.

I could probably cast it now, or at least be really close, if I cursed the wiz ring, but I'm nervous about running around with 8ac, no rF, and 137 hp. It just seems like a couple fireballs could ruin my day really fast.

However, if I still can't reliably cast tornado by the time I finish depths, I may just go ahead and curse the wiz ring anyway. I can confuse fire giants pretty reliably, so I'll probably be OK without any rF in vaults5.

[Sandman25]

I meant to curse the rF+, AC+ ring. But maybe you should replace that robe with one of rC+ and replace the rC+ ring with wizardry. Then Tornado will be castable I believe.

[le_nerd]

Misc thoughts:

Amulet of Wind is kinda not very useful for you, anything else'd be better.

Absolutely curse a second ring, 14% (yellow) miscast tornado is fine and will go down further very soon.

Its criminally that you havent maxed dodging yet.

[dowan]

Well, maxing dodging would give me what, 2-3 more EV? And I already have 39, is it really going to make an appreciable difference? Because castable tornado certainly would, and then I am thinking I will just exclusively train fighting for more HP.

With the rings shown in that dump both cursed, tornado is at 10% fail, but still red. I think every single automatic stat up went to dex for this character....

Either way, it's close. I guess I'll go to slime and get some XP, hopefully pushing tornado over the edge. Of course, I have some brilliance potions anyway, so I could just go to vault 5, and use those when I want to cast tornado. I'm sure it'll become castable on its own soon enough with the vaults 5 xp.

I would rather not take off the RC ring because it also gives me int+4 and rcorr... but maybe that's stupid. It's not like I get hit with corroding attacks very often, and I'm not sure rcorr even does anything against entropy weavers.

Yeah, amulet of wind is doing very little for me, but I don't think there's much better than a rN+ amulet anywhere... I wish I could just take it off and see what my MR is without it, but stupid ash doesn't let you do that...

[Sandman25]

It's easy to calculate MR, 7 * XL + 40 for the hat. If you are XL 27, then it's 229, above MR+++++(200).

[dowan]

OK, my plan to dip into slime for some xp turned into "Wow slime is pretty easy for this guy" into "Oh, I'm on slime 5" and finally "TRJ is sleeping, stab stab, TRJ is dead".

The loot was garbage, but I got a rune, so that's good.

I'm very annoyed, I have 27 air magic with ash's boost, but swapped out the +4 int ring, now tornado is at 8% fail. I pumped int every time I got the chance, I'm wearing nothing to increase my fail chance, and tornado is still 8%?!?

I guess I'll keep pumping spellcasting and conj, I found a book with orb of destruction, and it's at 21% fail, so that will have to be my hex immune killer. I'm surprised that 24 int isn't enough to cast level 9 spells with 27 skill...

  Code:

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1195-ge0bab27 (webtiles) character file.

damiac the Cloud Mage (Spriggan Enchanter)         Turns: 96987, Time: 10:20:22

HP:   141/141 (142) AC: 16    Str:  6    XL:     26   Next: 39%
MP:   39/49         EV: 40    Int: 24    God:    Ashenzari [******]
Gold: 809           SH: 15    Dex: 21    Spells: 16 memorised, 6 levels left

rFire  + + .      SeeInvis +    a - +9 dagger (elec) (curse)
rCold  + . .      Gourm    .    g - +2 robe {Archmagi} (curse)
rNeg   . . .      Faith    .    Z - +2 buckler {AC+3} (curse)
rPois  +          Spirit   .    h - +2 hat {MR+} (curse)
rElec  .          Dismiss  .    n - +2 cloak {rPois} (curse)
rCorr  .          Reflect  +    (gloves unavailable)
MR     +++++      Harm     .    (boots unavailable)
Stlth  +++++++++. Clarity  +    K - +4 amulet of reflection (curse)
                                I - ring "Oppysu" {rF+ AC+4 Str+2} (curse)
                                E - ring "Etobud" {rF+ rC+ MR+} (curse)

@: very slightly contaminated, deflect missiles, very quick
A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2
a: Curse Item, Scrying, Transfer Knowledge, Renounce Religion
}: 3/15 runes: barnacled, slimy, gossamer


You are on level 1 of the Realm of Zot.
You worship Ashenzari.
Ashenzari is exalted by your worship.
You are full.

You have visited 11 branches of the dungeon, and seen 50 of its levels.
You have also visited: Wizlab.

You have collected 6366 gold pieces.
You have spent 5557 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a cursed +9 dagger of electrocution (weapon)
Missiles
 r - 112 tomahawks (quivered)
Armour
 g - a cursed +2 robe of the Archmagi (worn)
 h - a cursed +2 hat of magic resistance (worn)
 n - a cursed +2 cloak of poison resistance (worn)
 Z - a cursed +2 buckler of protection (worn)
Jewellery
 E - the cursed ring "Etobud" (left hand) {rF+ rC+ MR+}
   (You took it off a deep elf annihilator on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of protection from cold]
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 I - the cursed ring "Oppysu" (right hand) {rF+ AC+4 Str+2}
   (You took it off an ogre mage on level 4 of the Depths)   
   
   [ring of protection]
   
   It affects your AC (+4).
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It protects you from fire.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 K - a cursed +4 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 Q - the ring of Hoguel {rCorr rC+ MR+ Int+4}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 1 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of resist corrosion]
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
Wands
 b - a wand of enslavement
 c - a wand of paralysis (8/24)
 k - a wand of lightning (10/15)
 m - a wand of acid (6/15)
 u - a wand of paralysis (20/24)
 w - a wand of acid (7/15)
 x - a wand of iceblast (10/15)
 A - a wand of digging (6/24)
 F - a wand of hasting (3/9)
 J - a wand of teleportation (6/9)
 P - a wand of enslavement (5/24)
 T - a wand of digging (19/24)
Scrolls
 e - 16 scrolls of teleportation
 l - 3 scrolls of enchant armour
 q - 12 scrolls of magic mapping
 v - 5 scrolls of remove curse
 y - 6 scrolls of blinking
 H - 5 scrolls of fog
 S - 23 scrolls of identify
 U - 4 scrolls of recharging
 X - 9 scrolls of fear
 Y - 2 scrolls of amnesia
Potions
 j - 7 potions of agility
 p - 5 potions of flight
 t - 8 potions of heal wounds
 z - 6 potions of cancellation
 B - 3 potions of might
 C - 8 potions of haste
 G - 8 potions of brilliance
 L - 4 potions of cure mutation
 N - a potion of invisibility
 R - 31 potions of curing
 V - 5 potions of magic
Books
 f - a book of Power   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Fulminant Prism              Conjuration/Hexes             4
    b - Iskenderun's Mystic Blast    Conjuration                   4
    c - Venom Bolt                   Conjuration/Poison            5
    d - Bolt of Magma                Conjuration/Fire/Earth        5
    e - Iron Shot                    Conjuration/Earth             6
    f - Orb of Destruction           Conjuration                   7
    g - Spellforged Servitor         Conjuration/Summoning         7
 O - a book of Annihilations   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Poison Arrow                 Conjuration/Poison            6
    b - Chain Lightning              Conjuration/Air               8
    c - Lehudib's Crystal Spear      Conjuration/Earth             8
    d - Glaciate                     Conjuration/Ice               9
    e - Fire Storm                   Conjuration/Fire              9
Miscellaneous
 i - 3 sacks of spiders
 o - a lamp of fire
 M - 4 phantom mirrors
Comestibles
 d - 25 bread rations
 s - 3 fruits


   Skills:
 - Level 16.0 Fighting
 - Level 10.7(15.0) Short Blades
 - Level 20.7(24.2) Dodging
 - Level 17.0(20.8) Stealth
 - Level 4.8(7.8) Shields
 + Level 21.5 Spellcasting
 + Level 6.4(11.0) Conjurations
 - Level 18.0(21.7) Hexes
 - Level 7.4(11.9) Charms
 - Level 4.0(8.2) Necromancy
 - Level 6.4(10.9) Ice Magic
 - Level 23.8(27) Air Magic
 - Level 9.9(14.2) Evocations


You have 6 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Tornado               Air            ########..   8%          9    #######
b - Ensorcelled Hibernat  Hex/Ice        ######       0%          2    None
c - Confuse               Hex            ########     0%          3    None
d - Tukima's Dance        Hex            ########     0%          3    None
e - Dazzling Spray        Conj/Hex       ######       0%          3    None
f - Fulminant Prism       Conj/Hex       ########..   1%          4    None
g - Invisibility          Hex            ########     1%          6    ##.....
h - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       #######.     1%          3    None
i - Airstrike             Air            ########..   0%          4    None
j - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      #######...   1%          3    None
k - Animate Skeleton      Necr           N/A          1%          1    None
l - Iskenderun's Battles  Conj/Chrm      #######.     1%          5    None
m - Deflect Missiles      Chrm/Air       ########..   1%          6    ##.....
n - Freezing Cloud        Conj/Ice/Air   ########..   1%          6    ##.....
o - Sublimation of Blood  Necr           #######...   1%          2    None
p - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          1%          2    None

[Sandman25]

Yes, you have low Int, wear wizardry. AC+4 is worse than Tornado, especially when you are EV-based anyway.
AC is overestimated

Edit. Enchant the shield, or are you still hoping for steam DA?

[dowan]

Quick update, apparently 26 spellcasting, 27 air magic, and 25 int gets you 3% fail tornado, yellow, so hooray?

It has come in handy, and I keep miskeying and casting it accidentally, luckily it didn't fail when it was red. I'm surprised 25 int is considered low, but oh well. Now I know for the future not to go for level 9 spells on an enchanter, at least without some wiz and/or +int.

The AC+4 wasn't the compelling reason to keep that ring, it was the rF+. I'm glad I had it too, because I had a lucky OOF get very high damage rolls on its 3x fireballs it shot at me in a row, leaving me at very low HP.
All my air magic training was a waste, but SpEn of ash can afford to waste copious amounts of XP apparently without a problem.

I'm just about to finish, I just wanted to post an update of what it took to get tornado out of red fail.

[Sandman25]

Yes, Int 25 is low for level 9 spell. Not sure why you are saying that it was a waste, you can get all 15 runes with Tornado now

[dowan]

Hah, I suppose I could. But I decided to just ascend anyway, now I have an online sp win, and an en win, and I never ever have to play either again. I really don't like spriggan gameplay....

By the way, I was holding on to those EA scrolls to get into a trove that needed +2 FDA. Inside the trove was a ton of books (that's where I got OOD) and 2 EA scrolls! Not bad at all. After that I did enchant my buckler.

Actually, tornado did come in very handy during the ascent. Going out of zot 5 my way was blocked by a pan lord and an oof, I cast tornado, and just ran for it, they got swept behind me and I got away. Then I just cast it a few more times because I might as well...

Thanks for all your help, pointing me to elf was a really good idea, and I needed all the XP I could get for this ridiculous character.

EDIT: Damn, I just missed the spellcasting master title. "The Sorcerer" might be a better title than the master one anyone though...

  Code:

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-1195-ge0bab27 (webtiles) character file.

1474346 damiac the Sorcerer (level 27, 146/146 (147) HPs)
             Began as a Spriggan Enchanter on Aug 16, 2016.
             Was the Champion of Ashenzari.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 3 runes on Aug 19, 2016!
             
             The game lasted 11:24:21 (107496 turns).

damiac the Sorcerer (Spriggan Enchanter)          Turns: 107496, Time: 11:24:21

HP:   146/146 (147) AC: 16    Str:  4    XL:     27
MP:   54/54         EV: 39    Int: 25    God:    Ashenzari [******]
Gold: 1357          SH: 15    Dex: 19    Spells: 17 memorised, 7 levels left

rFire  + + .      SeeInvis +    a - +9 dagger (elec) (curse)
rCold  + . .      Gourm    .    g - +2 robe {Archmagi} (curse)
rNeg   . . .      Faith    .    Z - +3 buckler {AC+3} (curse)
rPois  +          Spirit   .    h - +2 hat {MR+} (curse)
rElec  .          Dismiss  .    n - +2 cloak {rPois} (curse)
rCorr  .          Reflect  +    (gloves unavailable)
MR     +++++      Harm     .    (boots unavailable)
Stlth  +++....... Clarity  +    K - +4 amulet of reflection (curse)
                                I - ring "Oppysu" {rF+ AC+4 Str+2} (curse)
                                E - ring "Etobud" {rF+ rC+ MR+} (curse)

@: very slightly contaminated, deflect missiles, very quick
A: unfitting armour, see invisible, clumsy 1, herbivore 3, speed 3, sense
surroundings 1, slow regeneration 1, slow metabolism 2, weak 1
a: Curse Item, Scrying, Transfer Knowledge, Renounce Religion
0: Orb of Zot
}: 3/15 runes: barnacled, slimy, gossamer


You escaped.
You worshipped Ashenzari.
Ashenzari was exalted by your worship.
You were full.

You visited 11 branches of the dungeon, and saw 54 of its levels.
You also visited: Trove and Wizlab.

You collected 6914 gold pieces.
You spent 5557 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a cursed +9 dagger of electrocution (weapon)
Missiles
 r - 116 tomahawks (quivered)
Armour
 g - a cursed +2 robe of the Archmagi (worn)
 h - a cursed +2 hat of magic resistance (worn)
 n - a cursed +2 cloak of poison resistance (worn)
 Z - a cursed +3 buckler of protection (worn)
Jewellery
 D - an uncursed ring of wizardry
 E - the cursed ring "Etobud" (left hand) {rF+ rC+ MR+}
   (You took it off a deep elf annihilator on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of protection from cold]
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 I - the cursed ring "Oppysu" (right hand) {rF+ AC+4 Str+2}
   (You took it off an ogre mage on level 4 of the Depths)   
   
   [ring of protection]
   
   It affects your AC (+4).
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It protects you from fire.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 K - a cursed +4 amulet of reflection (around neck)
Wands
 b - a wand of enslavement (16/24)
 c - a wand of lightning (10/15)
 f - a wand of paralysis (8/24)
 m - a wand of acid (6/15)
 u - a wand of paralysis (20/24)
 w - a wand of acid (7/15)
 x - a wand of iceblast (10/15)
 A - a wand of digging (0/24)
 F - a wand of hasting (1/9)
 J - a wand of teleportation (9/9)
 P - a wand of enslavement (5/24)
 Q - a wand of lightning (11/15)
 T - a wand of digging (18/24)
 W - a wand of lightning (8/15)
Scrolls
 e - 23 scrolls of teleportation
 k - 2 scrolls of enchant armour
 l - 11 scrolls of magic mapping
 q - 2 scrolls of holy word
 v - 5 scrolls of remove curse
 y - 8 scrolls of blinking
 H - 9 scrolls of fog
 S - 25 scrolls of identify
 U - 2 scrolls of recharging
 X - 9 scrolls of fear
 Y - a scroll of amnesia
Potions
 j - 7 potions of agility
 p - 4 potions of flight
 t - 9 potions of heal wounds
 z - 7 potions of cancellation
 B - 4 potions of might
 C - 9 potions of haste
 G - 9 potions of brilliance
 L - 4 potions of cure mutation
 N - a potion of invisibility
 R - 31 potions of curing
 V - 5 potions of magic
Miscellaneous
 i - 3 sacks of spiders
 o - a lamp of fire
 M - 4 phantom mirrors
Comestibles
 d - 26 bread rations


   Skills:
 - Level 16.0 Fighting
 - Level 10.7(15.0) Short Blades
 - Level 20.7(24.2) Dodging
 - Level 17.0(20.8) Stealth
 - Level 4.8(7.8) Shields
 + Level 26.8 Spellcasting
 + Level 14.4(18.4) Conjurations
 - Level 18.0(21.7) Hexes
 - Level 7.4(11.9) Charms
 - Level 4.0(8.2) Necromancy
 - Level 6.4(10.9) Ice Magic
 - Level 23.8(27) Air Magic
 - Level 9.9(14.2) Evocations


You had 7 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Tornado               Air            ########..   3%          9    ######.
b - Orb of Destruction    Conj           ########..   1%          7    ##.....
c - Confuse               Hex            ########     0%          3    None
d - Tukima's Dance        Hex            ########     0%          3    None
e - Dazzling Spray        Conj/Hex       ######       0%          3    None
f - Fulminant Prism       Conj/Hex       ########..   0%          4    None
g - Invisibility          Hex            ########     1%          6    None
h - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       #######.     1%          3    None
i - Airstrike             Air            ########..   0%          4    None
j - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      #######...   1%          3    None
k - Animate Skeleton      Necr           N/A          1%          1    None
l - Iskenderun's Battles  Conj/Chrm      ########     1%          5    None
m - Deflect Missiles      Chrm/Air       ########..   1%          6    None
n - Freezing Cloud        Conj/Ice/Air   ########..   1%          6    None
o - Sublimation of Blood  Necr           #######...   1%          2    None
p - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          1%          2    None
q - Dispel Undead         Necr           #######.     1%          5    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (6/6) D:10
 Shoals (4/4) Lair:2       Spider (4/4) Lair:4        Slime (5/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:10            Elf (3/3) Orc:2        Vaults (4/5) D:13
  Crypt (0/3) Vaults:3     Depths (5/5) D:15            Zot (5/5) Depths:5

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Jiyva

Shops:
D:7 (   D:11 !   D:15 }   Orc:1 !*   Orc:2 ?*!:   Elf:1 =   Vaults:1 (
Vaults:3 (   Depths:1 ?

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Abyss: Depths:4
Pandemonium: Depths:2 Depths:3
Ziggurat: Depths:3

Annotations:
D:5 Menkaure
Lair:4 exclusion: oklob plant
Elf:2 2 runed doors


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv)
You are a herbivore.
You cover ground extremely quickly.
You need consume almost no food.
You are clumsy. (Dex -2)
You passively map a small area around you.
You regenerate slowly when monsters are visible.
You are weak. (Str -2)