YASD: GrEE^Sif, Smitten by Beogh, with no warning

[Cimanyd]

Did you know there is no warning for Shatter-ing an orcish idol?

Someone knew 10 months ago! But that someone was not me.

LRD has a warning! But not Shatter.

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Mmm - a full handful of huckleberries!
Unknown command.
Casting: Shatter
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
The dungeon rumbles!
The orc warrior is almost dead.
You kill the orc warrior!
Sif Muna accepts your kill.
A glowing mist starts to gather...
You kill the orc warrior!
Sif Muna accepts your kill.
A glowing mist starts to gather...
You kill the orc warrior!
Sif Muna accepts your kill.
A glowing mist starts to gather...
Beogh utters a curse on your species. Beogh smites you!
The orc knight is heavily wounded.
Your arrogance infuriates Beogh. Beogh smites you!
Ouch! That really hurt!
You die...

And that's how a level 19 GrEE with Shatter (and Death Channel, for extra fun) and 2 runes died on D:11 while fighting three orc warriors and an orc knight.

[vergil]

Why's Beogh likes to smite things so much anyways?

[Sprucery]

I'd say either remove the orcish idols or make other gods also have structures they don't want to get destroyed. Bookshelves for Sif Muna, tombstones for Kiku...

(Obviously the correct answer is to just remove the orcish idols. Or make them pure decoration.)

[MainiacJoe]

I'm not near wizmode right now to check, but does x-v on an orcish idol say anything about Beogh taking offense if it's damaged? If so, I'd suggest that OP *did* have warning, just not a warning that came with a prompt. If x-v does not say anything like that, then IMO that is the change which needs to be made, not removing the idols or Beogh's behavior concerning them.

OP will never do this again. "Oh, I guess Beogh *really* doesn't like that!" is a flavorful lesson in line with the spirit of roguelikes. "Oh, I guess I should check x-v on features I'm unsure about" is a strategic lesson that will pay dividends on many future games.

[and into]

So when the game warns about orcish idols with prompt for LRD, but not Shatter, this is... what? A "flavorful" lesson that Crawl's design is inconsistent in ways that can get you killed?


EDIT: vv Sorry if this came off as rude, ManiacJoe vv

[MainiacJoe]

No, you're right, and I realized this after I posted earlier but I was away from my computer at the time. If LRD does give a prompt warning, Shatter ought to as well.

edit: and into: No offense taken, but thank you for mentioning the possibility. I had misinterpreted the OP.