YAVP - TrBe - Very lucky start

[ajon]

First, I have a question. I have like 23 large rocks, also grabbed some steel javelins and 2 poison ones I was gifted. Is it worth it to grab normal javelins or are they pretty much not worth it by Vaults when I should get more gifts and find plenty of rocks from cyclops and the like?

So far I have lair runes. I found a very early MDA and enough scrolls to enchant it to max before lair. Then I found a PDA and its currently enchanted to +7. I also found a pearl hide. Very unusual to find all this so early but I'm not complaining.

Also mutation roulette is mostly in my favor. the frail thing is so so, but everything else is kind of nice. Pondering if I should let evolve run its course, risk losing it by quaffing another potion and eating chunks, or stop gambling and enjoy my gains.

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-835-gf140595 (webtiles) character file.

mahalanobis the Grappler (Troll Berserker)         Turns: 21402, Time: 01:04:05

Health: 138/138    AC: 32    Str: 29    XL:     15   Next: 37%
Magic:  14/14      EV: 13    Int:  3    God:    Trog [*****.]
Gold:   460        SH:  4    Dex:  9    Spells: 0 memorised, 14 levels left

rFire  . . .      SeeInvis .      - Unarmed
rCold  . . .      Gourm    +    B - +4 pearl dragon armour
rNeg   + . .      Faith    .    (no shield)
rPois  +          Spirit   .    n - +2 hat
rElec  .          Dismiss  .    D - +2 cloak
rCorr  .          Reflect  +    (gloves unavailable)
SustAt .          Harm     .    (boots unavailable)
MR     +++..      Clarity  +    M - +4 amulet of reflection
Stlth  ..........               Z - ring of protection from magic
                                s - ring of poison resistance

@: extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: unfitting armour, claws 3, hooves 1, icy blue scales 1, rough black scales 1,
clarity, clumsy 2, fast metabolism 3, frail 1, gourmand, magic resistance 1,
regeneration 2, shaggy fur 1, tough skin 2, evolution 2, sturdy frame 1
a: Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion


You are on level 1 of the Shoals.
You worship Trog.
Trog is extremely pleased with you.
You are completely stuffed.

You have visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and seen 24 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ice Cave.

You have collected 2715 gold pieces.
You have spent 2255 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Missiles
 Q - 2 throwing nets
 Y - 2 large rocks (quivered)
Armour
 n - a +2 hat (worn)
 B - a +4 pearl dragon armour (worn)
 D - a +2 cloak (worn)
Jewellery
 s - a ring of poison resistance (left claw)
 H - the amulet "Dodoosh" {Gourm rF+}
   (You found it in an ice cave)   
   
   [amulet of the gourmand]
   
   It allows you to eat raw meat even when not hungry.
   It protects you from fire.
 K - an uncursed amulet of faith
 M - a +4 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 Z - a ring of protection from magic (right claw)
Wands
 c - a wand of teleportation (9/9)
 d - a wand of acid
 i - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 3}
 t - a wand of polymorph
 v - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 10}
 F - a wand of heal wounds (5/9)
 P - a wand of confusion
 S - a wand of disintegration
 T - a wand of digging {zapped: 3}
Scrolls
 e - 2 scrolls of fear
 g - 2 scrolls of blinking
 k - 7 scrolls of remove curse
 o - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 x - 6 scrolls of teleportation
 y - 4 scrolls of recharging
 E - a scroll of fog
 I - a scroll of vulnerability
Potions
 a - 2 potions of flight
 f - 2 potions of ambrosia
 h - a potion of cancellation
 j - 6 potions of lignification
 l - 9 potions of curing
 p - 5 potions of resistance
 q - 2 potions of magic
 r - 7 potions of might
 u - 7 potions of heal wounds
 w - a potion of haste
 z - 2 potions of brilliance
 G - a potion of invisibility
 N - a potion of agility
 R - a potion of cure mutation
Comestibles
 b - 10 bread rations
 m - 34 fruits
 A - 11 slices of pizza
 C - 2 beef jerkies
 O - 2 meat rations


   Skills:
 + Level 11.4 Fighting
 + Level 8.9 Throwing
 * Level 11.3 Armour
 + Level 11.1 Dodging
 + Level 13.4 Unarmed Combat


You have 14 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (14/15)              Lair (6/6) D:9          Shoals (1/4) Lair:4
 Spider (1/4) Lair:3        Slime (0/5) Lair:6          Orc (2/2) D:9
    Elf (0/3) Orc:2       
Temple: D:4-7       Vaults: D:13-14     

Altars:
Dithmenos
Fedhas
Okawaru
Pakellas
Ru
The Shining One

Shops:
D:5 !?   D:6 ?   D:8 }   Orc:2 (?(*:

Portals:
Pandemonium: Orc:2

Annotations:
Lair:2 exclusion: oklob plant
Lair:6 exclusion: 3 doors


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have claws for hands.
Your metabolism is lightning-fast.
You like to eat raw meat.
You heal very quickly.
You are covered in fur. (AC +1)
You have very tough skin. (AC +2)
You have large cloven feet.
You are partially covered in icy blue scales. (AC +1)
You are partially covered in rough black scales. (AC +4, Dex -1)
You possess an exceptional clarity of mind.
You are very clumsy. (Dex -4)
You are frail. (-10% HP)
You are resistant to hostile enchantments. (MR+)
You rapidly evolve.
Your movements are slightly less encumbered by armour. (ER -2)


Message History

Ye finish eatin'. 'tis raw flesh tastes great.
All o' tha chunks o' flesh in yer inventory haf rotted away.
Ye feel a genetic drift.
Ye feel resistant ta hostile enchantmn'ts.
Found a box o' beasts an' a wand o' diggin'.
Found 14 gold pieces.
Ye now haf 460 gold pieces (gain'd 14).
Ye enter tha shallow water.
Movin' in 'tis stuff be goin' ta be slow.
Splash!
Ye fall inta tha shallow water.
Movin' in 'tis stuff be goin' ta be slow.
Ye enter tha shallow water.
Movin' in 'tis stuff be goin' ta be slow.
Found a tap'red copper wand.
Ye enter tha shallow water.
Movin' in 'tis stuff be goin' ta be slow.
d - a wand o' acid
Okay, than.
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[ajon]

Update before bed.

Two runes down. V1-4 clear. Working my way through depths. The AC feels really nice in this armour most of the time. For some reason I feel like I'm taking way more damage than with other characters with similar AC and EV scores. No branded shields or large shields whatsoever yet. Probably hit up crypt because PDA then finish elf 3. Im wondering if its worth it to buy the manual of shields, would give be a ton more SH skill for pretty cheap id bet. Also, should I try to switch to GDA later (Edit - obviously trolls don't wear plate... guess I'm tired)?

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-848-g377f27f (webtiles) character file.

mahalanobis the Wrestler (Troll Berserker)         Turns: 53443, Time: 03:15:10

Health: 236/236    AC: 39    Str: 31    XL:     22   Next: 96%
Magic:  31/31      EV: 20    Int:  3    God:    Trog [*****.]
Gold:   2320       SH: 17    Dex: 15    Spells: 0 memorised, 21 levels left

rFire  . . .      SeeInvis .      - Unarmed
rCold  . . .      Gourm    +    B - +9 pearl dragon armour
rNeg   + . .      Faith    .    g - +0 shield
rPois  +          Spirit   .    n - +2 hat
rElec  .          Dismiss  .    W - +2 cloak {MR+}
rCorr  .          Reflect  +    (gloves unavailable)
SustAt .          Harm     .    (boots unavailable)
MR     ++...                    M - +4 amulet of reflection
Stlth  ..........               X - +4 ring of evasion
                                s - ring of poison resistance

@: very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: unfitting armour, antennae 2, claws 3, talons 1, icy blue scales 1, rough
black scales 1, fast metabolism 3, gourmand, high mp 2, regeneration 2, shaggy
fur 1, tough skin 2
a: Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion
}: 2/15 runes: barnacled, gossamer


You are on level 3 of the Depths.
You worship Trog.
Trog is extremely pleased with you.
You are completely stuffed.

You have visited 8 branches of the dungeon, and seen 40 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ice Cave.

You have collected 5572 gold pieces.
You have spent 3252 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Missiles
 i - 23 steel javelins
 D - 2 silver javelins
 L - 38 poisoned javelins
 Q - 5 throwing nets
 Y - 120 large rocks (quivered)
Armour
 g - a +0 shield (worn)
 n - a +2 hat (worn)
 B - a +9 pearl dragon armour (worn)
 W - a +2 cloak of magic resistance (worn)
Jewellery
 s - a ring of poison resistance (left claw)
 v - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 M - a +4 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 X - a +4 ring of evasion (right claw)
Wands
 c - a wand of teleportation (6/9)
 d - a wand of acid
 o - a wand of digging {zapped: 2}
 C - a wand of iceblast {zapped: 2}
 I - a wand of heal wounds (4/9)
 J - a wand of digging (14/24)
 S - a wand of disintegration
Scrolls
 e - 4 scrolls of fear
 k - 14 scrolls of remove curse
 t - 10 scrolls of identify
 x - 10 scrolls of teleportation
 y - 5 scrolls of recharging
 E - 5 scrolls of fog
 F - 4 scrolls of summoning
 P - 3 scrolls of silence
 R - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 V - a scroll of blinking
Potions
 a - 4 potions of flight
 f - 5 potions of ambrosia
 h - 3 potions of cancellation
 j - 12 potions of lignification
 l - 12 potions of curing
 p - 3 potions of resistance
 q - 2 potions of magic
 r - 8 potions of might
 u - 5 potions of heal wounds
 w - 2 potions of haste
 z - 6 potions of brilliance
 G - 3 potions of invisibility
 H - a potion of berserk rage
 N - a potion of agility
Comestibles
 b - a meat ration
 m - 37 fruits
 O - a slice of pizza
 U - 14 royal jellies


   Skills:
 * Level 17.6 Fighting
 - Level 13.2 Throwing
 - Level 14.1 Armour
 - Level 12.5 Dodging
 - Level 9.9 Shields
 - Level 21.0 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 6.6 Evocations


You have 21 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)              Lair (6/6) D:9          Shoals (4/4) Lair:4
 Spider (4/4) Lair:3        Slime (0/5) Lair:6          Orc (2/2) D:9
    Elf (2/3) Orc:2        Vaults (4/5) D:14          Crypt (0/3) Vaults:2
 Depths (3/5) D:15       
Temple: D:4-7       

Altars:
Dithmenos
Fedhas
Makhleb
Okawaru
Pakellas
Ru
The Shining One

Shops:
D:5 !?   D:6 ?   D:8 }   D:14 *:!   Orc:2 (?(*:   Shoals:3 %(*:[
Vaults:1 :   Vaults:2 ?

Portals:
Hell: Lair:6 Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3
Pandemonium: Orc:2 Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3

Annotations:
Lair:2 exclusion: oklob plant
Elf:2 3 runed doors


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have claws for hands.
Your metabolism is lightning-fast.
You like to eat raw meat.
You heal very quickly.
You are covered in fur. (AC +1)
You have very tough skin. (AC +2)
You have a pair of antennae on your head.
You have sharp toenails.
You are partially covered in icy blue scales. (AC +1)
You are partially covered in rough black scales. (AC +4, Dex -1)
You have a considerably increased reservoir of magic. (+20% MP)


Message History

HP restored.
Ye now haf 2320 gold pieces (gain'd 22).
Thar be an op'n door, spatt'red wit' blood 'ere.
Thin's tha be 'ere:
a battleaxe; a chain mail
Thin's tha be 'ere:
4 mutagenic chunks o' flesh; an ugly thin' skeleton
Thar be a stone staircase leadin' down, spatt'red wit' blood 'ere.
Ye climb downwards.
Thar be a stone staircase leadin' up 'ere.
Ye climb upwards.
Thar be a stone staircase leadin' down, spatt'red wit' blood 'ere.
All o' tha chunks o' flesh in yer inventory haf rotted away.
Ye climb downwards.
Thar be a stone staircase leadin' up 'ere.
Save game an' 'sit?
Okay, than.
Unknown command.
Char dumped successfully.
Save game an' 'sit?


[TonberryJam]

I'd train throwing and shields then go back to dodge and claws

[rchandra]

If you find a bunch of scrolls ... even then it's hard for GDA to beat +9 PDA. I'd probably try to just get by with resistance potions.

[ajon]

Think I could get stealth in PDA? Might run the abyss. Snagged 3rd rune in vaults and I got a shield with rF from Mennas, but I wouldn't mind finding more potions but I'm not sure how id fare in the abyss.

[Sandman25]

It's hard to get stealthy Troll even in robe (because of size, low Dex, stealth factor and aptitude), I would ignore stealth with the character.

[Hurkyl]

If you find a bunch of scrolls ... even then it's hard for GDA to beat +9 PDA. I'd probably try to just get by with resistance potions.

GDA doesn't have to beat +9 PDA -- it's GDA + free ring slot that has to beat +9 PDA.

[ajon]

Kept the PDA and took the dragnoskin cloak. Technically I only had one pip or MR, OoF seemed a little easier and I had a panlord with ball lightning on the ascension. Felt very strong but even with my shield and dragonskin cloak, it was noticeable when if I got hit with crap before the cloak's effect took place.

I need to remember to throw those damn rocks though. I didn't throw nearly enough. I remembered sometimes and it was nice, but I usually forget. Maybe I need to work on incorporating ranged with most of my characters.

Down to Naga, Octopode, and Felid now.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-856-g54f7fbd (webtiles) character file.

1699344 mahalanobis the Wrestler (level 27, 232/232 HPs)
             Began as a Troll Berserker on June 30, 2016.
             Was a High Priest of Trog.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 3 runes on July 1, 2016!
             
             The game lasted 04:36:12 (75859 turns).

mahalanobis the Wrestler (Troll Berserker)         Turns: 75859, Time: 04:36:12

Health: 232/232    AC: 44    Str: 35    XL:     27
Magic:  32/32      EV: 24    Int:  3    God:    Trog [*****.]
Gold:   2387       SH: 27    Dex: 17    Spells: 0 memorised, 26 levels left

rFire  + + .      SeeInvis +      - Unarmed
rCold  + . .      Gourm    +    B - +9 pearl dragon armour
rNeg   + . .      Faith    .    A - +0 large shield "Azorucee" {rF+ rCorr}
rPois  .          Spirit   .    n - +2 hat
rElec  .          Dismiss  .    Z - +4 dragonskin cloak
rCorr  +          Reflect  +    (gloves unavailable)
SustAt .          Harm     .    (boots unavailable)
MR     ++...                    M - +4 amulet of reflection
Stlth  ..........               X - +4 ring of evasion
                                D - ring of the Griffon {Str+4 Dex+4 SInv}

@: very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: unfitting armour, antennae 2, claws 3, talons 1, icy blue scales 1, rough
black scales 1, slimy green scales 1, clumsy 2, fast metabolism 3, frail 2,
gourmand, high mp 2, regeneration 2, shaggy fur 1, tough skin 2, weak 1,
evolution 1
a: Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion
0: Orb of Zot
}: 3/15 runes: barnacled, silver, gossamer


You escaped.
You worshipped Trog.
Trog was extremely pleased with you.
You were not hungry.

You visited 10 branches of the dungeon, and saw 52 of its levels.
You also visited: Ice Cave.

You collected 8483 gold pieces.
You spent 6096 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Missiles
 Q - 7 throwing nets
 Y - 203 large rocks (quivered)
Armour
 n - a +2 hat (worn)
 o - a +0 gold dragon armour
 A - the +0 large shield "Azorucee" (worn) {rF+ rCorr}
   (You took it off Mennas on level 3 of the Crypt)   
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from acid and corrosion.
 B - a +9 pearl dragon armour (worn)
 W - a +2 cloak of magic resistance
 Z - the +4 dragonskin cloak (worn)
   (You took it off Tiamat on level 1 of the Realm of Zot)
Jewellery
 d - an uncursed ring of ice
 s - an uncursed ring of poison resistance
 v - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 D - the ring of the Griffon (left claw) {Str+4 Dex+4 SInv}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Depths)   
   
   [ring of see invisible]
   
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
   It lets you see invisible.
 M - a +4 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 T - an uncursed amulet of regeneration
 X - a +4 ring of evasion (right claw)
Wands
 c - a wand of teleportation (6/9)
 C - a wand of iceblast (4/15)
 I - a wand of heal wounds (2/9)
 J - a wand of digging (6/24)
 K - a wand of digging (20/24)
 O - a wand of acid (6/15)
 S - a wand of disintegration (11/24)
Scrolls
 e - 5 scrolls of fear
 i - a scroll of holy word
 k - 23 scrolls of remove curse
 t - 10 scrolls of identify
 x - 9 scrolls of teleportation
 y - 10 scrolls of recharging
 E - 4 scrolls of fog
 F - 4 scrolls of summoning
 P - 3 scrolls of silence
 V - 2 scrolls of blinking
Potions
 a - 6 potions of flight
 b - a potion of cure mutation
 f - 6 potions of ambrosia
 h - 3 potions of cancellation
 j - a potion of mutation
 l - 18 potions of curing
 p - 3 potions of resistance
 q - 3 potions of magic
 r - 5 potions of might
 u - 6 potions of heal wounds
 G - 3 potions of invisibility
 H - a potion of berserk rage
 N - a potion of agility
Miscellaneous
 g - 2 phantom mirrors
Comestibles
 m - 41 fruits
 R - 9 meat rations
 U - 5 bread rations


   Skills:
 * Level 20.1 Fighting
 * Level 20.3 Throwing
 * Level 17.4 Armour
 - Level 17.4 Dodging
 - Level 15.5 Shields
 * Level 23.7 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 6.6 Evocations


You had 26 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)              Lair (6/6) D:9          Shoals (4/4) Lair:4
 Spider (4/4) Lair:3        Slime (0/5) Lair:6          Orc (2/2) D:9
    Elf (3/3) Orc:2        Vaults (5/5) D:14          Crypt (3/3) Vaults:2
   Tomb (0/3) Crypt:3      Depths (5/5) D:15            Zot (5/5) Depths:5
Temple: D:4-7       

Altars:
Dithmenos
Fedhas
Makhleb
Okawaru
Pakellas
Ru
Xom
Yredelemnul
The Shining One
Lugonu

Shops:
D:5 !?   D:6 ?   D:8 }   D:14 *:!   Orc:2 (?(*:   Shoals:3 %(*:[
Vaults:1 :   Vaults:2 ?   Zot:4 *

Portals:
Hell: Lair:6 Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Abyss: Depths:4
Pandemonium: Orc:2 Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3
Ziggurat: Depths:4

Annotations:
Lair:2 exclusion: oklob plant
Elf:2 3 runed doors


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have claws for hands.
Your metabolism is lightning-fast.
You like to eat raw meat.
You heal very quickly.
You are covered in fur. (AC +1)
You have very tough skin. (AC +2)
You have a pair of antennae on your head.
You have sharp toenails.
You are partially covered in icy blue scales. (AC +1)
You are partially covered in rough black scales. (AC +4, Dex -1)
You are partially covered in slimy green scales. (AC +2)
You are very clumsy. (Dex -4)
You are very frail. (-20% HP)
You have a considerably increased reservoir of magic. (+20% MP)
You are weak. (Str -2)
You evolve.