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Spider Stomper

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Joined: Friday, 3rd June 2011, 09:57

Post Tuesday, 5th July 2011, 12:53

CiP: I love Trog, and other deities

I tend to mainly play hybrids and spellcasters in trunk, which every now and then gets a bit too concentration/death intensive, so I like to keep a melee build going in 0.8 as well. My current Kobald just cleared Lair and all four levels of Orc, and will presumably head on down to Hive, then dive the dungeon looking for the Vaults.

I just wanted to post this because I worship Trog. Trog you are wonderful, and bring joy into my life, and the sadly short lives of my awesome brothers in the faith. Thank you Trog. Trog, I don't know why you thought my Kobald needed 3 flame-branded cross-bows so urgently as to make them your first 3 gifts, but at least one of them is turning out useful to kill fleeing enemies, so thanks Trog. Trog, I love the fact that after the three flaming crossbows, you saw fit to bombard me with freezing weapons, the one you sent whilst I was in the Ice Cave in particular put a real smile on my face. However Trog, if you could see your way to providing me with some other brand of weapon (and that does NOT mean a freezing crossbow) I would be even more grateful. Yours humbly, vp.
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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.1 character file.

vogonpoet the Slicer (Kobold Berserker)            Turns: 30563, Time: 05:05:52

HP 106/106       AC 11     Str 21      Exp: 15/74998 (183), need: 30502
MP  17/17        EV 31     Int 12      God: Trog [****..]
Gold 2020        SH 20     Dex 27      Spells:  0 memorised, 16 levels left

Res.Fire  : + . .   See Invis. : .    a - +2,+10 short sword "Kliur" {god gift, free
Res.Cold  : + . .   Warding    : . .  W - +1 elf robe {rC+ rF+}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .    D - +0 buckler
Res.Acid. : + . .   Res.Corr.  : +    G - +3 helmet of the Unseen Realm {Dex+2 Int+1
Res.Poison: +       Clarity    : .    Y - +2 cloak {MR}
Res.Elec. : +       Spirit.Shd : .    R - +0 pair of gauntlets {Dex+3}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Stasis     : .    (no boots)
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .    n - amulet of Qinyecwu {rCorr Str+3 Int+3}
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .    E - ring of poison resistance
Saprovore : + + .   Ctrl.Flight: .    u - ring of protection from magic

@: very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely stealthy
A: carnivore 3, saprovore 2, Int +1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion,
Evoke Blink


You are on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Trog.
Trog is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 25 of its levels.
You have visited 1 Labyrinth.
You have visited 2 portal chambers: ossuary, ice cave.

You have collected 2296 gold pieces.
You have spent 296 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - the +2,+10 short sword "Kliur" (weapon) {god gift, freeze, +Blink rElec Str+2 Int+2}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly susceptible
   opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   
   
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It lets you blink.
 q - a +0,+2 demon whip of freezing {god gift}
 x - a +0,+7 crossbow of flame {god gift}
 C - a +0,+2 short sword of flaming {god gift}
 K - the +2,+6 dagger "Kair" {freeze, rElec SInv}
   (You took it off an orc wizard on level 6 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly susceptible
   opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   
   
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It enhances your eyesight.
Missiles
 c - 14 runed bolts
 d - 9 +3 darts (quivered)
 y - 40 +2 bolts
Armour
 D - a +0 buckler (worn)
 G - the +3 helmet of the Unseen Realm (worn) {Dex+2 Int+1}
   (You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon)   
   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+1).
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
 R - a +0 pair of gauntlets of dexterity (worn)
 W - a +1 elven robe of resistance (worn)
 Y - a +2 cloak of magic resistance (worn)
Magical devices
 k - a wand of fire {zapped: 4}
 w - a wand of confusion {zapped: 2}
 I - a copper wand
 L - a wand of cold {zapped: 1}
 M - a wand of draining {recharged}
Comestibles
 t - a meat ration
Scrolls
 b - a scroll of detect curse
 e - a scroll of remove curse
 f - a scroll of magic mapping
 g - 3 scrolls labeled ATUTOVVIHIE {tried}
 h - 2 scrolls of blinking
 i - 2 scrolls of teleportation
 j - a scroll of enchant weapon III
 l - a scroll of fog
 o - a scroll labeled BROTWE QOGO {tried}
 r - a scroll labeled NENOAS EMENN
Jewellery
 n - the amulet of Qinyecwu (around neck) {rCorr Str+3 Int+3}
   (You found it in a Labyrinth)   
   
   [amulet of resist corrosion]
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
 u - a ring of protection from magic (left hand)
 E - a ring of poison resistance (right hand)
 F - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 H - an uncursed amulet of warding
 S - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
Potions
 m - 2 potions of invisibility
 p - a potion of agility
 s - 2 potions of speed
 N - 2 potions of heal wounds
 O - a potion of restore abilities
 P - 2 potions of might
 T - 3 potions of healing
 U - a brown potion
 V - a potion of resistance


 You have 183 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 14 Fighting
 - Level 14 Short Blades
 + Level 1 Long Blades
 - Level 3 Maces & Flails
 - Level 7 Crossbows
 - Level 4 Throwing
 + Level 2 Armour
 + Level 14 Dodging
 + Level 11 Stealth
 + Level 10 Stabbing
 + Level 6 Shields
 + Level 2 Traps & Doors
 + Level 1 Spellcasting
 + Level 1 Evocations


You have 16 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (13/27)            Temple (0/1) D:5             Orc (4/4) D:6
    Elf (0/5) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:9          Shoals (0/5) Lair:6
  Slime (0/6) Lair:7        Snake (0/5) Lair:6     
  Hive: D:11-16     

Altars:
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
The Shining One
Xom
Jiyva

Shops:
D:4: [  D:6: (  Orc:2: =  Orc:3: +=((  Orc:4: =%(?


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You recuperate from illness quickly.
You are small and have problems with some larger weapons.
You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time.
You can eat rotten meat.
Your mind is acute (Int +1).


Message History

the -7,-1 crossbow of Nyukhuve {god gift, flame, rPois rF- rN+}
the blowgun "Paihun" {speed, rElec rC+ rN+, was cursed}
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There are several objects here.
Pick up a potion of cure mutation? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q)
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Grand Total: 926 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | vogonpoet, the Kobold Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 0/0
   227 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/17 MP: 1/1
   492 | D:1      | Acquired Trog's second power
   719 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 16/22 MP: 2/2
  1160 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
  1238 | D:2      | Noticed Terence
  1250 | D:2      | Defeated Terence
  1317 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 17/26 MP: 3/3
  1336 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
  1412 | D:2      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  1481 | D:3      | Noticed glau's ghost (average TrHu)
  1495 | D:3      | Defeated glau's ghost
  1495 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 4/32 MP: 4/4
  1528 | D:3      | Reached skill level 4 in Dodging
  2052 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
  2102 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 30/36 MP: 5/5
  2507 | D:4      | Found Qesufi's Armour Boutique.
  2892 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  2951 | D:5      | Noticed Blork the orc
  2980 | D:5      | Defeated Blork the orc
  2987 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
  3032 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3036 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  3060 | D:5      | Noticed Ijyb
  3073 | D:5      | Defeated Ijyb
  3088 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/42 MP: 6/6
  3159 | D:5      | Noticed Edmund
  3202 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Short Blades
  3312 | D:5      | Defeated Edmund
  3362 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Short Blades
  3390 | D:5      | Found a sand-covered staircase.
  3410 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing
  3445 | ossuary  | Entered a tomb
  3472 | ossuary  | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  3510 | ossuary  | Reached XP level 8. HP: 39/48 MP: 7/7
  3626 | ossuary  | Reached skill level 8 in Short Blades
  4210 | D:6      | Found Qiavvea's Weapon Shop.
  4260 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  4615 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 55/55 MP: 8/8
  4688 | D:6      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  4772 | D:6      | Acquired Trog's third power
  5342 | D:6      | Got a crystal dagger
  5344 | D:6      | Identified the dagger "Kair" {freeze, rElec SInv} (You took it off an orc wizard on level 6 of the Dungeon)
  5812 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
  5997 | D:7      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  6164 | D:8      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  6263 | D:8      | Noticed Shane's ghost (experienced TrDK)
  6284 | D:8      | Defeated Shane's ghost
  6284 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 40/62 MP: 9/9
  6622 | D:8      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  6839 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  6848 | D:9      | HP: 2/62 [yak (15)]
  7040 | D:9      | Noticed Duvessa
  7049 | D:9      | Noticed Dowan
  7064 | D:9      | Defeated Duvessa
  7372 | D:9      | Defeated Dowan
  7445 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
  7612 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  7718 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 9 in Short Blades
  8000 | Lair:1   | You fall through a shaft!
  8816 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 72/72 MP: 10/10
  8987 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  9178 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Trog
  9598 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Crossbows
  9689 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
  9840 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 10987 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Stabbing
 11290 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Trog
 11293 | Lair:4   | Got a steaming crossbow {god gift}
 11306 | Lair:4   | Identified the crossbow of Nyukhuve {god gift, flame, rPois rF- rN+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)
 11504 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 11 in Dodging
 11717 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Crossbows
 12280 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades
 12346 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 82/82 MP: 11/11
 13344 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 12 in Short Blades
 13547 | Lair:6   | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute (Int +1).
 13653 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 13901 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 13 in Short Blades
 13931 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 14536 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Trog
 14801 | Lair:7   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 14801 | Lair:7   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 14994 | Lair:7   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 90/90 MP: 12/12
 15045 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 14 in Short Blades
 15587 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 15785 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 17970 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Trog
 18244 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 18782 | D:10     | Got a fine helmet
 18828 | D:10     | Identified the +3 helmet of the Unseen Realm (You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon)
 19688 | D:11     | Noticed Erolcha
 19693 | D:11     | Defeated Erolcha
 19751 | D:11     | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 19801 | Lab      | Entered a Labyrinth
 19935 | Lab      | Got a fine iron amulet
 19936 | Lab      | Got a brightly glowing blowgun
 19936 | Lab      | Got a slimy long sword
 20151 | D:10     | Identified the cursed blowgun "Paihun" {speed, rElec rC+ rN+} (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 20264 | Lair:2   | Identified the cursed long sword "Kitreara" {venom, Str-2} (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 20406 | Lair:2   | Identified the amulet of Qinyecwu {Str+3 Int+3} (You found it in a Labyrinth)
 20712 | D:11     | Noticed Psyche
 20728 | D:11     | Defeated Psyche
 21161 | D:12     | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 21195 | D:12     | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
 21804 | D:13     | Found a frozen archway.
 21902 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 21929 | IceCv    | Received a gift from Trog
 21963 | IceCv    | Reached XP level 14. HP: 85/97 MP: 13/13
 22701 | D:13     | Noticed Grum
 22772 | D:13     | Defeated Grum
 23018 | D:13     | Reached skill level 10 in Stabbing
 23676 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 23826 | Orc:1    | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades
 24432 | Orc:2    | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 24579 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 24649 | Orc:2    | Found Twuomn's Jewellery Boutique.
 24698 | Orc:2    | Bought a cursed ring of hunger for 1 gold piece
 24961 | Orc:3    | Noticed an orc warlord
 25027 | Orc:3    | Defeated an orc warlord
 25144 | Orc:3    | Found Coezid's Book Boutique.
 25250 | Orc:3    | Received a gift from Trog
 25261 | Orc:3    | Got a bloodstained short sword {god gift}
 25269 | Orc:3    | Identified the short sword "Kliur" {god gift, freeze, +Blink rElec Str+2 Int+2} (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Orcish Mines)
 26021 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 26272 | Orc:3    | Found Udoan's Weapon Shop.
 26327 | Orc:3    | Received a gift from Trog
 26389 | Orc:3    | Found Phan's Antique Weapon Boutique.
 26448 | Orc:3    | Found Ijoekoa's Jewellery Boutique.
 27363 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 28309 | Orc:4    | Noticed an orc high priest
 28315 | Orc:4    | Defeated an orc high priest
 28318 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 28388 | Orc:4    | Noticed an orc high priest
 28399 | Orc:4    | Defeated an orc high priest
 28532 | Orc:4    | Noticed an orc high priest
 28563 | Orc:4    | Defeated an orc high priest
 29075 | Orc:4    | Noticed an orc high priest
 29193 | Orc:4    | Noticed an orc high priest
 29202 | Orc:4    | Defeated an orc high priest
 29212 | Orc:4    | Noticed an orc high priest
 29216 | Orc:4    | Defeated an orc high priest
 29216 | Orc:4    | Reached XP level 15. HP: 95/106 MP: 14/14
 29220 | Orc:4    | Defeated an orc high priest
 29221 | Orc:4    | Found Clyukaup's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
 29221 | Orc:4    | Found Praun's Food Emporium.
 29221 | Orc:4    | Found Plog's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 29223 | Orc:4    | Found Deduz's Jewellery Shoppe.
 29321 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon III for 200 gold pieces
 29321 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of blinking for 30 gold pieces
 29321 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 35 gold pieces
 29321 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of remove curse for 30 gold pieces
 29435 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting

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Post Tuesday, 5th July 2011, 13:16

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

a +10 shortsword is not too bad for your level, and you'll get plenty of others i guess.
with lvl 7 in crossbows it was to expect that you get some, maybe disable the skill if you don't want them next time.
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Post Tuesday, 5th July 2011, 16:20

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

Yeah well all the cross-bow skill came *after* the first cross-bow gift. My kobald hadn't even seen a crossbow until Trog gifted him one, so it would seem the skills a PC has does not necessarily have much bearing on what gifts you get.

I had been throwing darts occasionally, but turned Throwing off immediately upon getting the skill.
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Post Tuesday, 5th July 2011, 19:13

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

That is a great shortsword, but I'm under the impression that you are supposed to pump all your enchant scrolls into that demon whip.
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Post Tuesday, 5th July 2011, 20:05

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

Really? Are demon whips really that awesome? They have a base damage of 12, the sword is 6+10, which means I would need to pump the whip to +4 damage just to equal the sword, and that's ignoring my respective weapon skill levels. Am I missing something? Or rather, what is it I am missing?

Looks like I need to get to grips with danr's weapons spreadsheet...

edit: would help if I could read and type coherently
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Post Tuesday, 5th July 2011, 20:16

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

I think it all has to do with attack speed.
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Post Tuesday, 5th July 2011, 20:42

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

Well then the combat mechanics are clearly way more complicated than I realised, and I am going to have to take peoples word for it :).

To conclude, regardless of rElec and +Blink, pimping my demon whip with any scrolls I have lying around (may not be that many, I can't remember), and training up maces and flails to match my short blades skill, is clearly the superior option? Well damn :)

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Post Wednesday, 6th July 2011, 03:04

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

I respectfully disagree. My Kobold Berserkers started doing a lot better when I stuck with Maces/Flails, rather than the popular strategy of converting to Short Blades. When you specialize in Maces out of the gate, Trog usually ends up gifting you at least one demon whip (and sometimes several) in an average run. There are other advantages, too, like it being easier to deal with Hydras, and Maces damage > Short Blade damage in general. Granted, you miss out on having a +3 aptitude for your main weapon, but a Kobold's Maces aptitude of 0 is hardly crippled.

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Post Wednesday, 6th July 2011, 12:59

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

Well D17 has not been kind to my demon whip wielding KoBe. After almost getting killed by an orange crystal statue (I had -51 intelligence???), further exploration landed me next to three neqoxecs who I made two significant mistakes against - I didn't beserk, and I didn't have my res mut amulet in my backpack. Clearly having some things in ones stash in Lair 2 - food, excess potions, needles and weapons you don't want other monsters using against you - is good, and stashing other things - incredibly useful jewellery for instance, is not so good. *sigh*

So I picked up some muts:

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You recuperate from illness quickly.
You are small and have problems with some larger weapons.
You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time.
You can eat rotten meat.

Your mind is acute (Int +1).
Your body is slowly deteriorating.
You have a fast metabolism.
You are frail (-10% HP).
Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).
Your muscles are strong (Str +1).
Space occasionally distorts in your vicinity.


Teleportitis will no doubt annoy the hell out of me, but I am more concerned about my body slowly deteriorating. That sounds bad. I have a pot of cure mutation I think, but as I understand it its not very likely to remove my worst mutation. Can a KoBe live with a deteriorating body?
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Post Wednesday, 6th July 2011, 13:09

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

Do you have a Ring of Sustain Abilities? If so, wear that and it should fend off deterioration 1.
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Post Wednesday, 6th July 2011, 13:17

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

it's not even necessary for that character. he won't get anywhere close to stat death and certainly won't lose enough strength to fall under the encumbrance threshold. mildly annoying, but not worth burning a potion of cure mutation.

the ring slot would be better used on teleport control, too, if you can find it or have it already.
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Post Wednesday, 6th July 2011, 20:30

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

"You punish the helpless viper causing immense pain!!!"
Bwah ha ha ha. I love it.

So, descended down to D18, which was a bit hairy (yakturs, perhaps I was close to the entrance to Vaults), and decided to head back to Lair to take stock. After some umming and ahing, I descended into Snake, making what is basically my first ever real foray into a rune-containing branch (I escaped from the Abyss once, and popped my head into Shoals once, but those PCs are long dead). I have cleared Snake 1-4, and am pausing here so that when I wake up tomorrow I can decide not to explore Snake 5 yet, as it is probably too dangerous. The temptation to run and try to see a rune for the first time is very strong :D .

The first thing I found in Snake was a ring of tele control, so clearly the RNG has something horrendous in store for me later.

Where next? Snake 5, D18,19,20, The shoals? Oh, and trog gave me a 0, +4 spiked flail of piercing, which sounds awesome, but I have no idea if that is better than my demon whip?
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Post Wednesday, 6th July 2011, 20:46

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

Shoals isn't bad, but you NEED levitation. Be sure to drop your food before descending each level for fear of harpies.
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Post Wednesday, 6th July 2011, 21:05

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

trog gave me a 0, +4 spiked flail of piercing, which sounds awesome, but I have no idea if that is better than my demon whip?


Stick with the demon whip. In 0.8, it's the same base damage, but faster and more accurate. The freezing vs. piercing is debatable, but most seem to prefer freezing overall despite it being less useful vs. cold immune critters.

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Post Thursday, 7th July 2011, 17:45

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

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 z - a serpentine rune of Zot


:D :D :shock:

My first ever rune. Yay. Snake 5 was handled with caution, Trog's Hand, Beserk, and resting, one greater naga at a time. I guess after a revisit to my stash, I should dip my toes into Shoals with my levitation ring and see how it goes.

I have a bit of a jewelery dilemma, which I guess is meant to happen: I have rings of poison resistance, Tele Ctrl, and levitation. I have an amulet of rCorr, and I can buy an amulet of clarity in Orc. I guess I will try clarity, Tele Ctrl and Levitation in shoals, and if I am getting too poisoned, switch out Tele Ctrl and just bounce the hell around :)

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.1 character file.

vogonpoet the Spry (Kobold Berserker)              Turns: 49856, Time: 08:15:44

HP 114/114       AC  8     Str 17 (20) Exp: 18/210511 (761), need: 25489
MP  17/17        EV 31     Int  9      God: Trog [*****.]
Gold 3034        SH 25     Dex 23 (26) Spells:  0 memorised, 19 levels left

Res.Fire  : + + .   See Invis. : .    a - +4,+2 demon whip (freeze) {god gift}
Res.Cold  : + + .   Warding    : . .  W - +1 elf robe {rC+ rF+}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .    Q - +1 shield
Res.Acid. : + . .   Res.Corr.  : +    c - +2 hat of the Alchemist {rElec rF+ rC+ MR}
Res.Poison: +       Clarity    : .    Y - +1 cloak {MR}
Res.Elec. : +       Spirit.Shd : .    R - -1 pair of gauntlets {Dex+3}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Rnd.Telep. : +    p - +0 pair of elf boots
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: +    n - amulet of Qinyecwu {rCorr Str+3 Int+3}
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .    E - ring of poison resistance
Saprovore : + + .   Ctrl.Flight: .    x - ring of teleport control

@: very resistant to hostile enchantments, extraordinarily stealthy
A: carnivore 3, deterioration 1, fast metabolism 1, -10% hp, -10% mp, saprovore
2, teleportitis 1, Str +1, Int +1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion


You are on level 5 of the Snake Pit.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are completely stuffed.

You have visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and seen 38 of its levels.
You have visited 1 Labyrinth.
You have visited 2 portal chambers: ossuary, ice cave.

You have collected 3604 gold pieces.
You have spent 590 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +4,+2 demon whip of freezing (weapon) {god gift}
 b - a +0,+7 crossbow of flame {god gift}
 g - the -1,+6 sabre "Vonorph" {god gift, elec, *TELE +Rage +Inv}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 16 of the Dungeon)   
   
   Occasionally, upon striking a foe, it will discharge some electrical energy
   and cause terrible harm.
   
   
   It lets you turn invisible.
   It lets you go berserk.
   It causes teleportation.
 C - a +0,+2 short sword of flaming {god gift}
 D - a glowing flail
 K - the +2,+6 dagger "Kair" {freeze, rElec SInv}
   (You took it off an orc wizard on level 6 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly susceptible
   opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   
   
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It enhances your eyesight.
Missiles
 j - 9 darts of frost {god gift}
 q - 14 runed darts {god gift}
 J - 18 +3 darts
 L - 51 +0 bolts
 S - 17 silver darts (quivered) {god gift}
Armour
 c - the +2 hat of the Alchemist (worn) {rElec rF+ rC+ MR}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Hive)   
   
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It increases your resistance to enchantments.
 k - a runed robe
 o - a glowing robe
 p - a +0 pair of elven boots (worn)
 Q - a +1 shield (worn)
 R - a -1 pair of gauntlets of dexterity (worn)
 W - a +1 elven robe of resistance (worn)
 Y - a +1 cloak of magic resistance (worn)
Magical devices
 f - a wand of draining
 w - a wand of confusion {zapped: 2}
 I - a copper wand {zapped: 1} {tried}
 M - a wand of digging
 Z - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 1}
Comestibles
 r - 2 royal jellies
 t - a meat ration
Scrolls
 h - 2 scrolls of blinking
 i - 2 scrolls of teleportation
 l - 3 scrolls of fog
 v - a scroll labeled ZUELEIVI SKIH
 T - a scroll of fear
Jewellery
 d - an uncursed ring of levitation
 n - the amulet of Qinyecwu (around neck) {rCorr Str+3 Int+3}
   (You found it in a Labyrinth)   
   
   [amulet of resist corrosion]
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
 u - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 x - a ring of teleport control (left hand)
 y - a ring of poison resistance
 E - a ring of poison resistance (right hand)
 F - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
Potions
 e - an inky potion
 m - 2 potions of invisibility
 s - 2 potions of speed
 A - 2 potions of brilliance
 B - 2 potions of agility
 G - 3 potions of healing
 N - 3 potions of heal wounds
 O - 2 potions of restore abilities
 P - 2 potions of might
 V - a potion of resistance
 X - a potion of levitation
Miscellaneous
 z - a serpentine rune of Zot


 You have 761 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 15 Fighting
 - Level 14 Short Blades
 - Level 1 Long Blades
 + Level 12 Maces & Flails
 - Level 8 Crossbows
 - Level 5 Throwing
 + Level 2 Armour
 + Level 16 Dodging
 + Level 14 Stealth
 + Level 13 Stabbing
 + Level 9 Shields
 + Level 3 Traps & Doors
 + Level 1 Spellcasting
 + Level 3 Evocations


You have 19 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (19/27)            Temple (0/1) D:5             Orc (4/4) D:6
    Elf (0/5) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:9          Shoals (0/5) Lair:6
  Slime (0/6) Lair:7        Snake (5/5) Lair:6         Hive (2/2) D:16
 Vault: D:14-19     

Altars:
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
The Shining One
Xom
Zin
Jiyva

Shops:
D:4: [  D:6: (  Orc:2: =  Orc:3: +=((  Orc:4: =%(?

Portals:
Trove: D:15 (give +4 demon blade)

Annotations
D:15 exclusion: Roxanne
D:17 exclusion: orange crystal statue


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You recuperate from illness quickly.
You are small and have problems with some larger weapons.
You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time.
You can eat rotten meat.
Your mind is acute (Int +1).
Your body is slowly deteriorating.
You have a fast metabolism.
You are frail (-10% HP).
Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).
Your muscles are strong (Str +1).
Space occasionally distorts in your vicinity.


Message History

Pick up a glowing flail? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q)
D - a glowing flail
Unknown command.
Save game and exit?
Welcome back, vogonpoet the Kobold Berserker.
Trog says: Kill them all!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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 39347 | D:17     | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 39939 | D:17     | Gained mutation: You have a fast metabolism.
 39939 | D:17     | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong (Str +1).
 39947 | D:17     | Gained mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating.
 39948 | D:17     | Gained mutation: Space occasionally distorts in your vicinity.
 39950 | D:17     | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).
 39960 | D:17     | Gained mutation: You are frail (-10% HP).
 40018 | D:17     | Got a heavily runed diamond amulet
 40287 | D:17     | Noticed a lich
 40310 | D:17     | Defeated a lich
 40817 | D:18     | Received a gift from Trog
 41182 | D:18     | Identified the amulet "Rateal" (You found it on level 17 of the Dungeon)
 41347 | D:18     | Noticed a guardian serpent
 41355 | D:18     | Defeated a guardian serpent
 41873 | D:19     | Noticed Kirke
 41930 | D:19     | Defeated Kirke
 42723 | Lair:5   | You fall through a shaft!
 42772 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 42788 | Snake:1  | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 42815 | Snake:1  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 108/108 MP: 17/17
 42923 | Snake:1  | Noticed Azrael
 42958 | Snake:1  | Defeated Azrael
 43256 | Snake:1  | Noticed Rupert
 43283 | Snake:1  | Defeated Rupert
 43584 | Snake:1  | Noticed Nergalle
 43601 | Snake:1  | Defeated Nergalle
 44162 | Snake:2  | Received a gift from Trog
 44652 | Snake:2  | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 45456 | Snake:3  | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
 45883 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 46511 | Snake:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit
 47222 | Snake:5  | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing
 47625 | Snake:5  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 88/114 MP: 17/17
 48634 | Snake:5  | Reached skill level 16 in Dodging
 48884 | Snake:5  | Received a gift from Trog
 49246 | Snake:5  | Received a gift from Trog
 49703 | Snake:5  | Received a gift from Trog
 49812 | Snake:5  | Got a serpentine rune of Zot

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Post Thursday, 7th July 2011, 17:50

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

shoals don't have very much poison. take care with invokable levitation, you cannot invoke it again while floating i think.
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Post Thursday, 7th July 2011, 18:36

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

If you have a lot and no other alternatives, throw some enchant scrolls onto your gauntlets.
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Post Thursday, 7th July 2011, 18:49

Re: CiP: I love Trog (KoBe)

Ooops, good point - I think my stash has another pair of Dex gauntlets actually - the ones I am currently wearing were much nicer before 4 oklob plants in Hive did a number on them, and I kept meaning to switch them and never got around to it... D'oh. Clearly I need to review my stuff more carefully, and more often.

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Post Friday, 8th July 2011, 12:06

Re: CiP: I love Trog and other deities

RIP first ever rune holding dude, RIP.

I was trying to pick off the warriors and sorcerers around SR without attracting its attention, but at some point it saw me, and after that I died pretty quickly. I should have doubled down on the BIA, but they were getting sent back from whence they came. Saint Roka had red injuries when I died, but a bolt/smite/bolt combo did for me. I never even got close... Perhaps a [Trog's Hand, BIA, a blink towards SR and Beserk] sequence would have been better. Ah well. Anyone have any posthumous tips for Saint Roka? I should probably have gotten the hell out of dodge as soon as I saw him.


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I hate starting a new thread for every PC which will die almost immediately, so I think I will just use this one as a general progress thread, if that's cool?

Next up: A DDNe. One of the easy combos, allegedly.

I just found a book shop on D4, and now I am crying cos my PC is a DDNe and not a DEWz or an Air Elementalist or something. Or indeed any combo of spellcaster which I can keep alive. Check it out:

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I love how the books on offer almost perfectly avoid the other schools my DD is good at (Earth, Transloc), and have everything else... Maybe I will find some lower level Earth spells than Petrify and Shatter elsewhere :)
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Post Friday, 8th July 2011, 14:28

Re: CiP: I love Trog and other deities

thevogonpoet wrote:I just found a book shop on D4, and now I am crying cos my PC is a DDNe and not a DEWz or an Air Elementalist or something. Or indeed any combo of spellcaster which I can keep alive.

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I love how the books on offer almost perfectly avoid the other schools my DD is good at (Earth, Transloc), and have everything else... Maybe I will find some lower level Earth spells than Petrify and Shatter elsewhere :)


This seems to be consistent behavior and is the reason why I play DDEE now; I feel like I have a better chance of finding a book of Necromancy than a book of Earth spells.
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Post Friday, 8th July 2011, 17:28

Re: CiP: I love Trog, and other deities

Oops. Well that guy died investigating a scorched statue. I guess I should not investigate scorched statues in the future. Curiousity kills this cat.

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