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Lair Larrikin

Posts: 15

Joined: Friday, 12th July 2013, 20:31

Post Friday, 8th July 2016, 00:49

SpVM about to die?

This is the first caster I've really got off the ground, and was having good fun until I walked into Nessos
Other than going back in time and seeing if either of those scrolls are ?blinking (doh), what if anything can I do to maximize my slim chance of survival beyond the next turn?

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-929-g333bac9 (webtiles) character file.

spanner the Covert (Spriggan Venom Mage)           Turns: 16987, Time: 02:35:00

Health: 17/52      AC:  8    Str:  4    XL:     11   Next: 45%
Magic:  17/25      EV: 21    Int: 20    God:    Vehumet [*****.]
Gold:   642        SH:  0    Dex: 17    Spells: 8 memorised, 0 levels left

rFire  . . .      SeeInvis +    a - +0 dagger (protect)
rCold  . . .      Gourm    .    B - +1 robe
rNeg   . . .      Faith    .    (shield restricted)
rPois  .          Spirit   .    (helmet restricted)
rElec  .          Dismiss  .    (no cloak)
rCorr  .          Reflect  .    (gloves unavailable)
SustAt .          Harm     .    (boots unavailable)
MR     +....                    (no amulet)
Stlth  ++++++....               V - ring of wizardry
                                N - ring of stealth

@: mildly poisoned (17 -> 12), very quick, somewhat resistant to hostile
enchantments, very stealthy
A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2
a: Renounce Religion


You are on level 12 of the Dungeon.
You worship Vehumet.
Vehumet is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 14 of its levels.

You have collected 642 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +0 dagger of protection (weapon)
 r - a +1 dagger of venom
 L - a +0 dagger of speed
 T - a +2 short sword of freezing
Missiles
 d - 408 stones
 g - 66 poisoned needles
 l - 26 sling bullets
 s - 154 arrows
 u - 12 bolts
 C - 10 tomahawks (quivered)
Armour
 B - a +1 robe (worn)
Magical Staves
 z - an uncursed staff of power
Jewellery
 e - an uncursed ring of fire
 m - an uncursed ring of sustain attributes
 v - an uncursed ring of flight
 E - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion
 N - a ring of stealth (left hand)
 V - a ring of wizardry (right hand)
Wands
 y - a wand of slowing
 F - a wand of digging {recharged}
 G - a wand of confusion
 H - a wand of teleportation (2/9)
 I - a wand of flame {zapped: 4}
 P - a wand of lightning
Scrolls
 h - 4 scrolls of enchant armour
 n - 3 scrolls of fog
 o - 2 scrolls of identify
 p - a scroll of noise
 q - a scroll of recharging
 x - 5 scrolls of teleportation
 J - 3 scrolls of enchant weapon
 K - a scroll of amnesia
 O - a scroll labeled ZOOHUI KAUMM
 R - a scroll labeled BEB RORUIFUIL
 S - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 W - a scroll labeled APROMO WUDO
Potions
 f - 5 yellow potions
 i - 2 grey potions
 j - 3 white potions
 k - 6 potions of might
 t - 5 potions of curing
 A - 2 murky sapphire potions
 D - a glowing white potion
 Q - a bubbling ruby potion
 U - a fizzy pink potion
Books
 b - a Young Poisoner's Handbook   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Sting                        Conjuration/Poison            1
    b - Mephitic Cloud               Conjuration/Poison/Air        3
    c - Olgreb's Toxic Radiance      Poison                        4
    d - Alistair's Intoxication      Transmutation/Poison          5
    e - Venom Bolt                   Conjuration/Poison            5
 w - a book of Necromancy   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Pain                         Necromancy                    1
    b - Animate Skeleton             Necromancy                    1
    c - Vampiric Draining            Necromancy                    3
    d - Regeneration                 Charms/Necromancy             3
    e - Animate Dead                 Necromancy                    4
    f - Control Undead               Necromancy                    4
 M - a book of Power   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Fulminant Prism              Conjuration/Hexes             4
    b - Iskenderun's Mystic Blast    Conjuration                   4
    c - Venom Bolt                   Conjuration/Poison            5
    d - Bolt of Magma                Conjuration/Fire/Earth        5
    e - Iron Shot                    Conjuration/Earth             6
    f - Orb of Destruction           Conjuration                   7
    g - Spellforged Servitor         Conjuration/Summoning         7
Comestibles
 c - 6 bread rations


   Skills:
 - Level 3.0 Fighting
 - Level 3.2 Short Blades
 - Level 5.5 Dodging
 - Level 11.0 Stealth
 + Level 9.9 Spellcasting
 + Level 6.4 Conjurations
 + Level 1.5 Transmutations
 + Level 4.1 Air Magic
 + Level 10.3 Poison Magic


You cannot memorise any spells.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Sting                 Conj/Pois      ####         1%          1    None
b - Mephitic Cloud        Conj/Pois/Air  #####...     1%          3    None
c - Olgreb's Toxic Radia  Pois           ######..     1%          4    ##.....
d - Shock                 Conj/Air       ####         1%          1    None
e - Venom Bolt            Conj/Pois      #####.....   1%          5    #####..
f - Airstrike             Air            ####......   1%          4    ##.....
g - Freezing Cloud        Conj/Ice/Air   ###.......   47%         6    ######.
h - Alistair's Intoxicat  Tmut/Pois      ####....     9%          5    #####..


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (12/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (1/6) D:8
   Orc: D:9-12     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Pakellas
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:12 %

Portals:
Trove: D:10 (give 19 scrolls of identify)

Annotations:
D:2 Sigmund
D:3 1 runed door
D:5 Menkaure
D:8 1 runed door
D:12 Nessos


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv)
You are a herbivore.
You cover ground extremely quickly.
You need consume almost no food.


Message History

Okay, then.
Evoke which item? (* to show all) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Zapping: G - a wand of confusion (will waste charges)
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f/p - Nessos
Aim: Nessos, wielding a longbow of flaming and wearing a runed centaur barding (noxious fumes, chance to defeat MR: 46%)
Okay, then.
Evoke which item? (* to show all) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
Okay, then.
Okay, then.
Char dumped successfully.
Casting: Mephitic Cloud
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
You don't know that spell.
Casting: Mephitic Cloud
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
You attempt to intoxicate your foes! You feel sick.
Nessos is engulfed in noxious fumes.
Nessos gestures wildly while chanting.
Nessos seems to speed up.

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You can see Nessos.

Vanquished Creatures
  Maud (D:11)
  Nergalle (D:11)
  A hill giant (D:12)
  A manticore (D:11)
  2 centaur skeletons (D:12)
  Prince Ribbit (D:8)
  3 slime creatures
  A wyvern (D:8)
  2 hungry ghosts
  8 yaks (D:11)
  6 hippogriffs
  Edmund (D:5)
  Duvessa (D:7)
  3 orc warriors
  An ice beast (D:11)
  4 sky beasts
  2 necrophages
  A wasp (D:11)
  2 phantoms (D:12)
  3 ogres
  2 centaurs (D:9)
  Blork the orc (D:5)
  2 big kobolds
  4 giant frogs
  A wyvern skeleton (D:12)
  Dowan (D:7)
  5 scorpions
  3 troll zombies (D:12)
  A water moccasin skeleton (D:6)
  8 killer bees
  A howler monkey (D:10)
  A crimson imp (D:11)
  3 jellies
  2 quasits (D:11)
  6 orc priests
  7 hounds
  A giant frog skeleton (D:9)
  13 orc wizards
  2 iguanas (D:8)
  6 worker ants
  A killer bee zombie (D:7)
  2 ogre zombies (D:12)
  A worker ant zombie (D:5)
  4 gnolls (D:6)
  2 howler monkey skeletons
  15 adders
  3 shadow imps
  An adder zombie (D:9)
  2 adder skeletons
  3 worms
  3 dart slugs
  7 giant geckos
  57 orcs
  10 bats
  7 giant cockroaches
  15 goblins
  7 hobgoblins
  5 jackals
  30 kobolds
  5 quokkas
  3 giant gecko skeletons
  A giant gecko zombie (D:7)
  4 giant newts
  A goblin skeleton (D:12)
  A hobgoblin zombie (D:12)
  2 jackal zombies (D:7)
  An orc skeleton (D:12)
  11 orc zombies (D:12)
  A quokka skeleton (D:4)
  8 rats
328 creatures vanquished.

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | spanner the Spriggan Venom Mage began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 9/9 MP: 5/5
   284 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 13/13 MP: 1/6
   831 | D:2      | Noticed Sigmund
  1058 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 16/16 MP: 0/8
  1069 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
  1697 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic
  1829 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 21/21 MP: 10/10
  2312 | D:3      | Found a runed door.
  2539 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
  2778 | D:3      | Reached skill level 4 in Stealth
  2878 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 13/24 MP: 5/11
  3096 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3112 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  3219 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Vehumet
  3722 | D:4      | Learned a level 4 spell: Olgreb's Toxic Radiance
  3859 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/28 MP: 6/13
  4245 | D:4      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  4275 | D:4      | Reached * piety under Vehumet
  4275 | D:4      | Offered knowledge of Shock by Vehumet.
  4278 | D:4      | Learned a level 1 spell: Shock
  4406 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
  4692 | D:4      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  4811 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4811 | D:5      | Noticed Menkaure
  4814 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
  5169 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 32/32 MP: 11/14
  5175 | D:5      | Offered knowledge of Sandblast by Vehumet.
  5177 | D:5      | Reached ** piety under Vehumet
  5760 | D:5      | Noticed Blork the orc
  5893 | D:5      | Noticed Edmund
  5911 | D:5      | Killed Edmund
  5911 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
  6323 | D:5      | Killed Blork the orc
  6408 | D:6      | Noticed a hippogriff
  6429 | D:6      | Killed a hippogriff
  6468 | D:6      | Offered knowledge of Static Discharge by Vehumet.
  6595 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 17/36 MP: 6/15
  6854 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  7077 | D:6      | Reached *** piety under Vehumet
  7275 | D:6      | Learned a level 5 spell: Venom Bolt
  7927 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
  8096 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  8299 | D:7      | Offered knowledge of Sticky Flame by Vehumet.
  8449 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 33/42 MP: 8/18
  8763 | D:7      | Found a flagged portal.
  8927 | D:7      | Noticed Dowan
  8928 | D:7      | Noticed Duvessa
  8943 | D:7      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  9015 | D:7      | Reached **** piety under Vehumet
  9057 | D:7      | Killed Dowan
  9057 | D:7      | Killed Duvessa
  9309 | D:8      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  9332 | D:8      | Killed Prince Ribbit
  9600 | D:8      | Offered knowledge of Airstrike by Vehumet.
  9610 | D:8      | Learned a level 4 spell: Airstrike
 10004 | D:8      | Found a runed door.
 10004 | D:8      | Noticed a frost giant
 10004 | D:8      | Noticed a shadow wraith
 10006 | D:8      | Noticed a centaur warrior
 10006 | D:8      | Noticed an ice dragon
 10006 | D:8      | Noticed a manticore
 10006 | D:8      | Noticed a harpy
 10006 | D:8      | Noticed a cyclops
 10055 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 10142 | D:9      | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth
 10149 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 10149 | Lair:1   | Noticed a spiny frog
 11471 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 11528 | D:10     | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth
 11577 | D:10     | Reached XP level 10. HP: 46/48 MP: 16/21
 11752 | D:10     | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 12203 | D:11     | Reached ***** piety under Vehumet
 12269 | D:11     | Offered knowledge of Freezing Cloud by Vehumet.
 12443 | D:11     | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth
 12559 | D:11     | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
 12568 | D:11     | Noticed Maud
 12573 | D:11     | Noticed a manticore
 12590 | D:11     | Killed a manticore
 12875 | D:11     | Learned a level 6 spell: Freezing Cloud
 12950 | D:11     | Killed Maud
 12950 | D:11     | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth
 13306 | D:11     | Noticed Nergalle
 13327 | D:11     | Killed Nergalle
 13579 | D:11     | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
 13603 | D:11     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 51/51 MP: 19/25
 13990 | D:11     | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
 14423 | D:12     | Found Wageajo's Food Shoppe.
 14430 | D:12     | Noticed a hill giant
 14457 | D:12     | Killed a hill giant
 14457 | D:12     | Reached skill level 10 in Poison Magic
 15986 | D:12     | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth
 16077 | D:12     | Noticed Nessos
 16285 | D:12     | Learned a level 5 spell: Alistair's Intoxication
 16348 | D:12     | Reached skill level 1 in Transmutations
 16926 | D:12     | Noticed a white ugly thing

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 |
---------------+----------------------------------+-----
Spellcasting   |     3        4        5  7  9    |  9.9
Poison Magic   |        5        6     7  8  9 10 | 10.3
Air Magic      |           1     2  3  4          |  4.1
Stealth        |           4     5        7 10 11 | 11.0
Conjurations   |                 1  2  3  4  5  6 |  6.4
Short Blades   |                    2  3          |  3.2
Dodging        |                    4  5          |  5.5
Fighting       |                       1  3       |  3.0
Transmutations |                                1 |  1.5

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Dagger            |    14 |    79 |   249 |   102 ||   444
       Club              |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Short sword       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Throw: Tomahawk          |       |       |     1 |     3 ||     4
 Cast: Sting             |    58 |   156 |   211 |    91 ||   516
       Shock             |       |     4 |    49 |   139 ||   192
       Mephitic Cloud    |       |     2 |    16 |    16 ||    34
       Olgreb's Toxic Ra |       |     1 |    26 |    18 ||    45
       Airstrike         |       |       |     1 |    54 ||    55
       Alistair's Intoxi |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |     1 |     1 |    14 |     1 ||    17
       Potion            |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
 Stab: Sleeping          |    10 |    13 |    10 |     9 ||    42
       Confused          |       |       |     8 |     4 ||    12
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
  Eat: Bread ration      |       |     1 |     1 |     1 ||     3
       Pizza             |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2
       Fruit             |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
Armor: Robe              |       |    13 |    42 |    34 ||    89
Dodge: Dodged            |     9 |    85 |   230 |   101 ||   425





The only options I can see are
?fog
/confusion
mephitic cloud
alastairs intoxication
try an unidentified scroll and hope for the best

I'm as much interested in people's thoughts and reasoning as I am in surviving, as my decision making is largely rubbish in these situations

I'm leaning towards one last Mephitic Cloud but have nothing to justify that other than it's got me out of jail in the past!

Ziggurat Zagger

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Joined: Friday, 8th February 2013, 12:00

Post Friday, 8th July 2016, 00:57

Re: SpVM about to die?

I would read a scroll assuming both fear and blinking are not identified.
For future games always training Dodging to get around EV 28+ with Sp at this stage, never train Poison magic above 10, never train spells which are already at 1% failure rate unless you are going for higher level spells.
Also having 2 id scrolls with unknown items in inventory is not optimal.

Edit. If you were going for Alistair, it was not necessary (I would go for Iskenderun's Mystic Blast first), also Mephitic Cloud is good enough for this stage. You have a typical glass cannon here.

Abyss Ambulator

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Joined: Friday, 16th January 2015, 20:20

Post Friday, 8th July 2016, 04:17

Re: SpVM about to die?

/confusion would be my choice.

Lair Larrikin

Posts: 15

Joined: Friday, 12th July 2013, 20:31

Post Saturday, 9th July 2016, 12:13

Re: SpVM about to die?

thanks guys for the input. Taking a step back, thinking, and doing a bit of research I realise I know very little about how this game actually works, and most of the ideas
This char is definitely a learning experience. I've never cast Alistairs before, and wasn't entirely sure what it did so thought I'd try it. I can see now that I don't really need it yet. I've killed quite a few random casters lately without managing to get a good start. I went for Spriggan to give me the run away quickly defence, but it obviously has limitations!

I tried to work out the odds and went with wand of confusion. Managed to hit him with the second shot and survived when I really had no right to!
Ran upstairs and ID of two of my unknown scrolls gave me ?vuln and ?mapping so I'm quite happy!

Off to the lair methinks to beef up on some yak steaks...

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