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Swamp Slogger

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Joined: Tuesday, 10th November 2015, 22:06

Post Thursday, 9th June 2016, 17:54

Troves...... Should I?

How do you asess whether troves is worth it?

This trove wants two scrolls of fuck you, AKA acquirement. I've go one, and another in a shop for about 700 gold. I think i'll go for it, as i've got nearly everything i need and could find something amazing. Is this reasonable?



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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.19-a0-585-ge40200b (webtiles) character file.

Sagrath01 the Warrior (Centaur Gladiator)          Turns: 36209, Time: 02:43:14

Health: 170/172    AC: 39    Str: 23    XL:     19   Next: 58%
Magic:  30/30      EV: 14    Int: 12    God:    Makhleb [******]
Gold:   1831       SH:  8    Dex: 16    Spells: 4 memorised, 14 levels left

rFire  + + +      SeeInvis .    F - +8 autumn katana {slice, Clar}
rCold  + . .      Gourm    .    R - +7 plate armour of Absence {rN+ Int+4}
rNeg   + . .      Faith    .    w - +3 warlock's mirror {reflect}
rPois  .          Spirit   +    v - +2 hat
rElec  +          Dismiss  .    J - +2 cloak {rC+}
rCorr  .          Reflect  +    m - +1 pair of gloves
SustAt .          Harm     .    b - +4 centaur barding {rF+}
MR     +....      Clarity  +    i - amulet of guardian spirit
Stlth  ..........               T - ring of protection from magic
                                a - ring of Internal Strife {rElec rF++ MR- EV+5 Str+4}

@: mildly poisoned (170 -> 169), very quick, somewhat resistant to hostile
enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: hooves 3, deformed body, speed 2, tough skin 3
a: Minor Destruction, Lesser Servant of Makhleb, Major Destruction, Greater
Servant of Makhleb, Renounce Religion
}: 2/15 runes: barnacled, gossamer


You are on level 3 of the Vaults.
You worship Makhleb.
Makhleb is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and seen 36 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 1 time.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Sewer, Ossuary and Ice Cave.

You have collected 3979 gold pieces.
You have spent 2148 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 F - the +8 autumn katana (weapon) {slice, Clar}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   It protects you against confusion.
Missiles
 d - 4 throwing nets (quivered)
Armour
 b - a +4 centaur barding of fire resistance (worn)
 m - a +1 pair of gloves (worn)
 v - a +2 hat (worn)
 w - the +3 warlock's mirror (worn) {reflect}
   (You found it in a labyrinth)
 J - a +2 cloak of cold resistance (worn)
 R - the +7 plate armour of Absence (worn) {rN+ Int+4}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It protects you from negative energy.
Rods
 p - a +8 rod of shadows (12/12)
   (You found it in a labyrinth)
Jewellery
 a - the ring of Internal Strife (left hand) {rElec rF++ MR- EV+5 Str+4}
   (You found it in a labyrinth)   
   
   [ring of evasion]
   
   It affects your evasion (+5).
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 i - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck)
 T - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
Wands
 g - a wand of digging
 h - a wand of hasting (9/9)
 l - a wand of heal wounds
 x - a wand of teleportation
 y - a wand of disintegration
 E - a wand of lightning
 I - a wand of iceblast
 K - a wand of lightning
 M - a wand of confusion
 O - a wand of heal wounds (8/9)
 V - a wand of paralysis
Scrolls
 e - a scroll of summoning
 j - 9 scrolls of identify
 k - 12 scrolls of teleportation
 n - 13 scrolls of immolation
 q - 7 scrolls of blinking
 u - a scroll of acquirement
 C - 2 scrolls of holy word
 L - 5 scrolls of magic mapping
 W - 3 scrolls of fear
 X - 13 scrolls of remove curse
 Y - 10 scrolls of fog
Potions
 o - 15 potions of curing
 r - a potion of haste
 z - 10 potions of flight
 A - 3 potions of might
 D - 4 potions of cancellation
 G - 3 potions of resistance
 P - 5 potions of invisibility
 Q - 5 potions of heal wounds
 S - 4 potions of agility
 U - 4 potions of magic
Miscellaneous
 c - a fan of gales
 s - a lamp of fire
 N - a disc of storms
 Z - a phantom mirror
Comestibles
 f - 18 bread rations
 t - 16 chunks of flesh
 B - 35 fruits
 H - 2 meat rations


   Skills:
 + Level 15.7 Fighting
 - Level 12.0 Long Blades
 - Level 2.1 Throwing
 + Level 13.3 Armour
 + Level 10.2 Dodging
 - Level 4.2 Shields
 - Level 6.0 Necromancy
 - Level 15.0 Invocations
 + Level 13.1 Evocations


You have 14 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Corona                Hex            #......      100%        1    ##.....
b - Animate Skeleton      Necr           N/A          28%         1    ##.....
c - Apportation           Tloc           #.........   100%        1    ##.....
d - Summon Small Mammal   Summ           #...         100%        1    ##.....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (0/1) D:6            Lair (8/8) D:8
 Shoals (4/4) Lair:3       Spider (4/4) Lair:6        Slime (0/6) Lair:8
    Orc (2/2) D:12            Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Vaults (3/5) D:14
  Crypt (0/3) Vaults:3     Depths (0/5) D:15       

Altars:
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Okawaru
Pakellas
Qazlal
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Xom
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:10 ?   D:12 !*   D:13 *   Orc:1 [   Orc:2 (*=[   Shoals:1 (   Shoals:2 ?
Shoals:3 !   Shoals:4 :   Vaults:2 ?

Portals:
Trove: D:10 (give 2 scrolls of acquirement)

Annotations:
Lair:8 1 runed door
Spider:2 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have hooves in place of feet.
Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.
You cover ground very quickly.
You have extremely tough skin. (AC +3)


Message History

Okay, then.
Unknown command.
There is an open door here.
H - 2 meat rations (gained 1)
You feel sick.
There is an open door here.
You feel sick.
Items here: ( ) ÷÷
an arbalest; 16 bolts; a deep troll skeleton; a yaktaur skeleton
Found a glowing chain mail.
You feel sick.
You feel sick.
You see here a glowing chain mail.
Found a scroll of random uselessness.
Save game and exit?
Welcome back, Sagrath01 the Centaur Gladiator.
Blood and souls for Makhleb!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Char dumped successfully.
Save game and exit?

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Nikola (Spider:2)
  Arachne (Spider:2)
  Rupert (D:14)
  2 krakens
  Agnes (Spider:2)
  Kirke (Spider:1)
  Donald (Spider:1)
  A fire giant (Vaults:1)
  An orc warlord (Orc:1)
  2 frost giants
  5 emperor scorpions (Spider:4)
  9 vault wardens
  6 ghost moths
  Maud (Lair:5)
  A war gargoyle (Vaults:3)
  6 ironheart preservers
  5 very ugly things (Vaults:2)
  3 stone giants
  Azrael (Spider:3)
  Snorg (Orc:1)
  3 merfolk javelineers (Shoals:4)
  Josephine (D:11)
  4 merfolk impalers (Shoals:4)
  2 fire dragons
  A minotaur (Lab)
  3 yaktaur captains
  3 entropy weavers
  2 vault guards (Vaults:3)
  2 great orbs of eyes
  Fannar (Lair:2)
  6 hydras
  7 centaur warriors
  9 ogre magi
  4 merfolk avatars
  A merfolk aquamancer (Shoals:3)
  A deep troll shaman (Lair:8)
  4 death yaks (Lair:8)
  A catoblepas (Lair:8)
  An alligator snapping turtle (Shoals:1)
  A queen ant (Spider:1)
  The ghost of Canard the Zephyrmancer, a novice DrAE of Hepliaklqana (D:7)
  4 orc high priests
  A tengu warrior (D:13)
  A deep elf knight (Vaults:3)
  Nergalle (Lair:1)
  A fire crab (Vaults:2)
  A wretched star (Abyss:3)
  A shadow wraith (Vaults:1)
  6 sea snakes
  2 unseen horrors
  4 deep trolls (Vaults:3)
  A swamp dragon (Abyss:3)
  A deep elf archer (Orc:2)
  5 hill giants
  9 ironbrand convokers
  6 deep elf magi
  A lindwurm (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  A wizard (D:14)
  3 necromancers
  A lindwurm (Lair:7)
  12 orc knights
  17 orb spiders
  26 harpies
  9 griffons
  17 wolf spiders
  A hornet (Spider:2)
  2 fauns
  A moth of wrath (Spider:3)
  5 cyclopes
  17 ugly things
  6 manticores
  5 orc sorcerers
  27 elephants
  3 vault sentinels
  An ice statue (IceCv)
  4 black mambas
  4 centaur skeletons
  A guardian serpent (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  6 sirens
  A human skeleton (Vaults:2)
  3 water nymphs
  3 torpor snails
  14 spiny frogs
  5 rime drakes
  A rime drake (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  10 komodo dragons
  A yaktaur zombie (Vaults:3)
  A yaktaur (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  10 demonic crawlers
  3 kobold demonologists
  13 freezing wraiths
  20 yaktaurs
  2 efreet
  2 ice devils (Lair:4)
  A minotaur zombie (Lab)
  23 jumping spiders
  A spriggan druid (Lair:4)
  2 meliai (D:12)
  14 merfolk
  A troll (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  3 trolls
  2 wind drakes
  4 polar bears
  22 blink frogs
  2 snapping turtles
  10 slime creatures
  3 boulder beetles
  14 two-headed ogres
  Prince Ribbit (Lair:2)
  A boulder beetle (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  55 redbacks
  13 tarantellas
  A spriggan (D:11)
  Sigmund (D:6)
  7 water elementals
  32 yaks
  A vampire (D:11)
  5 wraiths
  2 wyverns (D:11)
  A human (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  2 fire elementals (Spider:3)
  18 hippogriffs
  2 steam dragons (D:9)
  4 basilisks
  2 hungry ghosts
  11 vampire mosquitoes
  A redback simulacrum (Vaults:1)
  A basilisk (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  Grum (D:8)
  4 soldier ants
  4 mottled dragons
  4 wargs
  13 water moccasins
  2 nagas (D:13)
  3 hell hounds (Spider:3)
  Duvessa (D:6)
  A swamp drake (D:12)
  13 porcupines
  50 orc warriors
  3 phantoms
  2 slaves
  11 ice beasts
  2 eyes of draining
  4 sky beasts
  A black bear (Lair:8)
  A wasp (Spider:1)
  2 ettin simulacra (Vaults:2)
  3 boggarts (Vaults:1)
  40 ogres
  18 centaurs
  A small abomination (Abyss:3)
  10 wolves
  15 crocodiles
  An elf skeleton (Vaults:3)
  3 big kobolds
  Blork the orc (D:4)
  25 giant frogs
  2 deep troll simulacra
  Dowan (D:6)
  A wyvern zombie (D:12)
  A wyvern skeleton (D:10)
  3 scorpions
  12 wights
  15 killer bees
  An orc simulacrum (Vaults:2)
  An elephant simulacrum (IceCv)
  An electric eel (Lair:2)
  2 howler monkeys
  3 crimson imps
  A wasp zombie (D:9)
  3 centaur zombies
  4 draconian simulacra (IceCv)
  22 orc priests
  3 giant frog zombies
  7 hounds
  2 jellies
  4 giant frog skeletons
  7 iguanas
  18 orc wizards
  13 worker ants
  A polar bear simulacrum (IceCv)
  A spriggan simulacrum (IceCv)
  7 troll simulacra (IceCv)
  2 killer bee zombies
  14 sheep
  A wolf simulacrum (IceCv)
  3 centaur simulacra
  A hound zombie (D:5)
  A hound skeleton (D:9)
  12 mummies (Ossuary)
  4 worker ant zombies (Ossuary)
  12 adders
  9 gnolls
  25 river rats
  3 naga simulacra (IceCv)
  3 ogre simulacra (IceCv)
  6 shadow imps
  12 white imps (IceCv)
  An ooze (D:1)
  An adder skeleton (D:4)
  2 adder zombies (Ossuary)
  4 worms
  A dart slug (D:2)
  5 giant geckos
  66 orcs
  8 giant cockroaches
  9 goblins
  8 hobgoblins
  19 jackals
  12 kobolds
  7 quokkas
  A ball python (D:4)
  9 bats
  3 giant cockroach zombies (Ossuary)
  A giant gecko skeleton (D:6)
  8 giant newts
  A jackal skeleton (D:8)
  A jackal zombie (D:7)
  A quokka skeleton (D:7)
  A quokka zombie (Ossuary)
  12 rats
  3 tentacles
1341 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Polyphemus (Shoals:2)
  Ilsuiw (Shoals:4)
  A ghost moth (Spider:4)
  Aizul (Spider:1)
  An orc warlord (Orc:1)
  A vault warden (Vaults:2)
  4 merfolk javelineers
  A merfolk impaler (Shoals:4)
  3 hydras (Lair:8)
  An entropy weaver (Spider:4)
  Harold (Lair:3)
  A merfolk avatar (Shoals:2)
  Erolcha (D:10)
  A satyr (Shoals:2)
  A catoblepas (Shoals:2)
  5 death yaks
  An orc high priest (Orc:2)
  5 sea snakes
  A hill giant (D:12)
  A lindwurm (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  3 harpies (Shoals:3)
  An ironbrand convoker (Vaults:3)
  Pikel (D:8)
  3 wolf spiders
  7 fauns
  2 orb spiders
  A hornet (Spider:1)
  An orc sorcerer (Orc:2)
  5 manticores
  2 griffons (Shoals:2)
  Joseph (D:8)
  3 sirens
  An elephant (Lair:7)
  A spiny frog (Lair:8)
  A yaktaur (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  A komodo dragon (Lair:7)
  4 yaktaurs
  3 demonic crawlers
  A meliai (D:12)
  A jumping spider (Spider:4)
  5 merfolk
  2 blink frogs
  A snapping turtle (Shoals:2)
  6 tarantellas
  8 redbacks
  2 water elementals (Shoals:3)
  3 yaks (D:14)
  A fire elemental (Spider:3)
  A hog (Spider:1)
  A warg (Orc:1)
  A hell hound (Spider:3)
  A slave (D:8)
  A phantom (D:8)
  4 orc warriors
  An alligator simulacrum (IceCv)
  2 ogres (Vaults:2)
  2 centaurs
  2 giant frogs (Lair:2)
  A killer bee (D:13)
  2 orc priests
  2 orc wizards
  2 centaur skeletons
  A howler monkey skeleton (D:8)
  2 river rats (Lair:7)
  8 orcs
  A jackal (D:8)
  A fungus (Orc:2)
  2 tentacles
142 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A centaur warrior (Vaults:3)
  2 yaktaurs
  A merfolk (Shoals:4)
  A human (Spider:2)
  A porcupine (Lair:7)
  A slave (D:8)
  A giant frog (Lair:7)
  A jelly (D:2)
  An orc wizard (Orc:1)
  6 fungi
  6 plants
  23 tentacles
  409 tentacle segments
454 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1937 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | Sagrath01 the Centaur Gladiator began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 17/17 MP: 1/1
   150 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 13/24 MP: 2/2
   468 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 14/29 MP: 3/3
   779 | D:2      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
   828 | D:2      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
   948 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
   973 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 29/36 MP: 4/4
  1446 | D:2      | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas.
  1446 | D:2      | Noticed an orange crystal statue
  2046 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades
  2046 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 30/41 MP: 5/5
  2554 | D:4      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  2556 | D:4      | Became a worshipper of Makhleb the Destroyer
  2733 | D:4      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  2824 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 41/48 MP: 6/6
  2884 | D:4      | Noticed Blork the orc
  2894 | D:4      | Killed Blork the orc
  3093 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3243 | D:5      | Reached * piety under Makhleb
  3244 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 28/55 MP: 3/7
  3955 | D:6      | Noticed Duvessa
  3957 | D:6      | Noticed Sigmund
  3961 | D:6      | Noticed Dowan
  3964 | D:6      | Killed Duvessa
  3971 | D:6      | Killed Dowan
  4058 | D:6      | Found a glowing drain.
  4187 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  4206 | Sewer    | Reached ** piety under Makhleb
  4266 | Sewer    | Reached XP level 8. HP: 61/61 MP: 8/8
  4300 | Sewer    | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  4573 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4817 | D:6      | HP: 2/61 [something/magic dart (4)]
  5130 | D:6      | Killed Sigmund
  5209 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Long Blades
  5209 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
  5723 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
  5931 | D:7      | Found a sand-covered staircase.
  5937 | Ossuary  | Entered an ossuary
  5960 | Ossuary  | Reached *** piety under Makhleb
  5960 | Ossuary  | Reached XP level 9. HP: 61/67 MP: 12/12
  6129 | Ossuary  | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  6402 | D:7      | Noticed Canard's ghost (novice DrAE)
  6440 | D:7      | Killed Canard's ghost
  6486 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6487 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6487 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6487 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6487 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6538 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6661 | D:7      | Reached **** piety under Makhleb
  6846 | D:7      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  6989 | D:8      | Noticed Pikel
  7050 | D:8      | Killed Pikel
  7050 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations
  7133 | D:8      | Noticed Joseph
  7146 | D:8      | Killed Joseph
  7146 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 73/73 MP: 17/17
  7345 | D:8      | Noticed a dagger
  7347 | D:8      | Noticed a dagger
  7349 | D:8      | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
  7354 | D:8      | Identified a scroll of acquirement
  7379 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  7547 | D:8      | Noticed Grum
  7554 | D:8      | Killed Grum
  7643 | D:8      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
  7834 | D:8      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  7866 | D:8      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  9143 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  9143 | Lair:1   | Noticed a spiny frog
  9143 | Lair:1   | Noticed a spiny frog
  9143 | Lair:1   | Noticed a spiny frog
  9157 | D:8      | Killed a spiny frog
  9162 | D:8      | Killed a spiny frog
  9363 | Lair:1   | Killed a spiny frog
  9465 | Lair:1   | Reached ***** piety under Makhleb
  9528 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 82/82 MP: 18/18
  9766 | Lair:1   | Noticed Nergalle
  9923 | Lair:1   | Killed Nergalle
  9923 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 10174 | Lair:2   | Noticed Prince Ribbit
 10181 | Lair:2   | Killed Prince Ribbit
 10430 | Lair:2   | Got a spiked ring mail
 10448 | Lair:2   | Identified the cursed +0 ring mail of Midsummer {*Contam +Blink Str+4 Dex+9} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts)
 10604 | Lair:2   | Noticed Fannar
 10615 | Lair:2   | Killed Fannar
 10863 | Lair:2   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 10874 | Lair:2   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 10954 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 10974 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 97/101 MP: 11/19
 11044 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 11540 | Lair:3   | Noticed Harold
 11550 | Lair:3   | Killed Harold
 11799 | Lair:4   | Found a frozen archway.
 11819 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 12048 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 12361 | IceCv    | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 12387 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 12561 | IceCv    | Reached ****** piety under Makhleb
 12841 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 13186 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 113/113 MP: 20/20
 14125 | Lair:5   | Noticed Maud
 14136 | Lair:5   | Killed Maud
 14527 | Lair:6   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 14578 | Lair:6   | You fall through a shaft for 2 floors!
 14578 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 14690 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 14943 | Lair:8   | Found a runed door.
 15037 | Lair:8   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 121/121 MP: 23/23
 15212 | Lair:8   | Noticed an acid blob
 15214 | Lair:8   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 15214 | Lair:8   | Noticed an acid blob
 15216 | Lair:8   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 15517 | Lair:7   | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 15614 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 15707 | Lab      | Got a slimy amber ring
 15769 | Lair:7   | Identified a +8 rod of shadows (12/12) (You found it in a labyrinth)
 16645 | Lair:6   | Identified the ring of Internal Strife {rElec rF++ MR- EV+5 Str+4} (You found it in a labyrinth)
 17429 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 17453 | D:10     | Learned a level 1 spell: Corona
 17672 | D:10     | Found Ehyesedime's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 17678 | D:10     | Bought a scroll of identify for 24 gold pieces
 17678 | D:10     | Bought a scroll of identify for 24 gold pieces
 17678 | D:10     | Bought a scroll of identify for 24 gold pieces
 17678 | D:10     | Bought a scroll of identify for 24 gold pieces
 17678 | D:10     | Bought a scroll of blinking for 90 gold pieces
 17689 | D:10     | Noticed Erolcha
 17702 | D:10     | Killed Erolcha
 17702 | D:10     | Reached skill level 15 in Invocations
 18079 | D:10     | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 18436 | D:11     | Noticed Josephine
 18457 | D:11     | Killed Josephine
 18991 | D:11     | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
 19102 | D:12     | Found Ituzxium's Distillery.
 19116 | D:12     | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 85 gold pieces
 19116 | D:12     | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 85 gold pieces
 19263 | D:12     | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 19281 | D:12     | Found Pezoehos's Elemental Accessories.
 19738 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 19766 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 19849 | Orc:1    | Noticed Snorg
 19859 | Orc:1    | Killed Snorg
 19859 | Orc:1    | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
 19861 | Orc:1    | Noticed an orc warlord
 19914 | Orc:1    | Killed an orc warlord
 19914 | Orc:1    | Reached XP level 15. HP: 77/126 MP: 9/26
 20215 | Orc:1    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 20391 | Orc:1    | Found Utomeul's Armour Boutique.
 20629 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 20629 | Orc:2    | Found Zezasub's General Store.
 20629 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 20676 | Orc:1    | Killed an orc warlord
 20887 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 21228 | Orc:2    | Found Vibaz's Antique Armour Shop.
 21280 | Orc:2    | Found Hier's Jewellery Shoppe.
 21335 | Orc:2    | Found Pugraom's Antique Weapon Emporium.
 21640 | Orc:2    | Bought a steaming plate armour for 980 gold pieces
 21650 | Orc:2    | Identified the +7 plate armour of Absence {rN+ Int+4} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)
 21896 | D:13     | Found Ruongaes's Serpentskin Sales.
 22594 | D:14     | Noticed Rupert
 22596 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 22607 | D:14     | Killed Rupert
 23275 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 23564 | D:15     | Noticed a frost giant
 23577 | D:15     | Killed a frost giant
 23577 | D:15     | Reached XP level 16. HP: 124/136 MP: 23/27
 23624 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 23901 | D:15     | Upgraded the game from 0.19-a0-559-ga3d69d0 to 0.19-a0-585-ge40200b
 24140 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 24156 | Shoals:1 | Found Yvvaruj's Weapon Emporium.
 24540 | Shoals:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 24691 | Shoals:1 | Learned a level 1 spell: Animate Skeleton
 24693 | Shoals:1 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
 24695 | Shoals:1 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Small Mammal
 24702 | Shoals:1 | Noticed a kraken
 24774 | Shoals:1 | Killed a kraken
 24860 | Shoals:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy
 25595 | Shoals:2 | Found Ocousch's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 25613 | Shoals:2 | Bought a scroll of summoning for 133 gold pieces
 25613 | Shoals:2 | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces
 25613 | Shoals:2 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 105 gold pieces
 25629 | Shoals:2 | Noticed Polyphemus
 25673 | Shoals:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy
 25676 | Shoals:2 | Killed Polyphemus
 26418 | Shoals:3 | Found Lurchobum's Distillery.
 26426 | Shoals:3 | Bought a potion of curing for 63 gold pieces
 26426 | Shoals:3 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 105 gold pieces
 26758 | Shoals:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Shoals
 26978 | Shoals:4 | Found Iloageut's Book Boutique.
 27193 | Shoals:4 | Noticed Ilsuiw
 27209 | Shoals:4 | Killed Ilsuiw
 27209 | Shoals:4 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 122/145 MP: 20/28
 27396 | Shoals:4 | Noticed a kraken
 27423 | Shoals:4 | Killed a kraken
 27498 | Shoals:4 | Got a barnacled rune of Zot
 27678 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 27738 | Spider:1 | Noticed Donald
 27749 | Spider:1 | Killed Donald
 27750 | Spider:1 | Noticed Aizul
 27765 | Spider:1 | Killed Aizul
 29231 | Spider:2 | Noticed Kirke
 29254 | Spider:1 | Killed Kirke
 29267 | Spider:2 | Noticed Nikola
 29298 | Spider:2 | Killed Nikola
 29320 | Spider:2 | Noticed Arachne
 29335 | Spider:2 | Killed Arachne
 29588 | Spider:2 | Noticed Agnes
 29597 | Spider:2 | Killed Agnes
 29928 | Spider:2 | Noticed Roxanne
 30440 | Spider:3 | Noticed Azrael
 30467 | Spider:3 | Killed Azrael
 30866 | Spider:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Spider Nest
 31449 | Spider:4 | Got a dazzling long sword
 31450 | Spider:4 | Identified the +7 long sword of the Briny Deep {drain, Str+4} (You found it on level 4 of the Spider Nest)
 31724 | Spider:4 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 160/160 MP: 29/29
 31936 | Spider:4 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
 32491 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 33150 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 33328 | Vaults:1 | Cast into level 2 of the Abyss (an ogre mage)
 33370 | Abyss:3  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 33398 | Vaults:1 | Escaped the Abyss
 34385 | Vaults:2 | Found Onophog's Magic Scroll Shop.
 34393 | Vaults:2 | Bought a scroll of identify for 36 gold pieces
 34393 | Vaults:2 | Bought a scroll of identify for 36 gold pieces
 34393 | Vaults:2 | Bought a scroll of identify for 36 gold pieces
 34393 | Vaults:2 | Bought a scroll of blinking for 135 gold pieces
 34393 | Vaults:2 | Bought a scroll of holy word for 135 gold pieces
 34759 | Vaults:2 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 170/170 MP: 30/30
 35586 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 36136 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------------------+-----
Long Blades    |  3     4  5  6  7  8 10    12                            | 12.0
Armour         |        1                    2  4  5        9 11 12 13    | 13.3
Invocations    |                       5 10          13 15                | 15.0
Evocations     |                          1        3  6 10 11       12 13 | 13.1
Fighting       |                             3  7 10          11 14 15    | 15.7
Dodging        |                                5  6        7        9 10 | 10.2
Shields        |                                   2  4                   |  4.2
Necromancy     |                                               6          |  6.0
Throwing       |                                                          |  2.1

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Long sword        |    95 |    21 |       |       |       |       |       ||   116
       Kick              |    19 |    65 |   122 |   233 |   575 |   634 |   163 ||  1811
       Dagger            |       |   266 |   241 |       |       |       |       ||   507
       Rapier            |       |       |   226 |       |       |       |       ||   226
       Katana            |       |       |       |   580 |  1311 |  1712 |   411 ||  4014
Throw: Throwing net      |       |     1 |     5 |       |       |     1 |       ||     7
       Stone             |       |       |     6 |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     8
 Cast: Animate Skeleton  |       |       |       |       |       |    18 |       ||    18
Invok: Minor Destruction |       |       |    24 |   138 |   113 |   102 |       ||   377
       Lesser Servant of |       |       |     4 |    11 |    19 |    15 |     1 ||    50
       Greater Servant o |       |       |       |       |     4 |    10 |     1 ||    15
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Disc of storms    |       |       |       |       |     9 |     4 |       ||    13
       Rod               |       |       |       |       |     9 |    28 |     2 ||    39
       Lamp of fire      |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Use: Potion            |       |     1 |     7 |       |     7 |     7 |     1 ||    23
       Scroll            |       |     7 |     5 |    12 |    15 |    11 |       ||    50
 Stab: Held in net/web   |       |     1 |     3 |       |       |     1 |       ||     5
       Distracted        |       |       |     1 |     1 |     7 |    10 |     1 ||    20
       Petrified         |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
  Eat: Chunk             |       |     5 |     9 |     9 |    23 |    15 |     3 ||    64
       Fruit             |       |       |     2 |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     2 |       |     1 |       ||     3
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |     2 |     1 |     2 |       ||     5
       Meat ration       |       |       |       |     1 |       |     4 |       ||     5
       Pizza             |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |     1 ||     2
Armor: Leather armour    |    47 |    82 |   116 |    78 |       |       |       ||   323
       Ring mail         |       |       |       |    97 |   240 |       |       ||   337
       Plate armour      |       |       |       |       |   112 |   876 |   150 ||  1138
Dodge: Dodged            |    68 |   158 |   189 |   201 |   507 |   901 |   125 ||  2149
Block: Buckler           |       |       |       |       |   326 |   545 |   126 ||   997
       Reflection        |       |       |       |       |    19 |    46 |    17 ||    82
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Post Thursday, 9th June 2016, 17:57

Re: Troves...... Should I?

Oh yes. And don't forget to write about the stuff in the Trove topic here :D

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Post Thursday, 9th June 2016, 18:07

Re: Troves...... Should I?

Why do I get the feeling you're being sarcastic? :) :)
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Post Thursday, 9th June 2016, 18:28

Re: Troves...... Should I?

Just use it and forget about the trove.

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Post Thursday, 9th June 2016, 18:33

Re: Troves...... Should I?

Sar wrote:Just use it and forget about the trove.

What would you acquire? This character has all the stuff, including HW and haste wands. I seriously would go for the trove. If it is worthless, the alternative cost is close to zero anyway.

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Post Thursday, 9th June 2016, 18:37

Re: Troves...... Should I?

I'll do it and post tur results here :)
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Post Thursday, 9th June 2016, 18:48

Re: Troves...... Should I?

- the +9 plate armour of the Game of Kings (worn) {*Contam rF+ rN+}. and t - the amulet of Sirhif {Dismiss +Inv Int+6 Stlth+} some HW pots and useless scrolls. Absolutely okay :)
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Post Thursday, 9th June 2016, 18:51

Re: Troves...... Should I?

Sagrath01 wrote:- the +9 plate armour of the Game of Kings


It should be Game of Thrones or Clash of Kings, man.

Nice trove, though.

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Post Thursday, 9th June 2016, 18:55

Re: Troves...... Should I?

I'd trade acquirement scrolls for healing potions usually, so that's nice.

How do you normally assess whether a trove is worth it? I follow this rule of thumb: Get the trove if it doesn't ask for anything useful. Otherwise not.
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Post Thursday, 9th June 2016, 23:18

Re: Troves...... Should I?

4Hooves2Appendages wrote:I'd trade acquirement scrolls for healing potions usually, so that's nice.

How do you normally assess whether a trove is worth it? I follow this rule of thumb: Get the trove if it doesn't ask for anything useful. Otherwise not.


Get the trove if it seems feasible (so not the 2 acq unless I find two at once, or there are two for sale, etc). I once gave a trove every HW potion in the game up to d:20 and both S-branches (forget how many - maybe 16?), and was happy with the outcome (multiple HW wands, haste wand, etc).
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Post Friday, 10th June 2016, 02:25

Re: Troves...... Should I?

4Hooves2Appendages wrote:How do you normally assess whether a trove is worth it? I follow this rule of thumb: Get the trove if it doesn't ask for anything useful. Otherwise not.
This is the correct rule. Trove contents are trash compared to the costs that involve useful items (acquirement, wands, etc.)

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Post Friday, 10th June 2016, 17:06

Re: Troves...... Should I?

rchandra wrote:Get the trove if it seems feasible (so not the 2 acq unless I find two at once, or there are two for sale, etc). I once gave a trove every HW potion in the game up to d:20 and both S-branches (forget how many - maybe 16?), and was happy with the outcome (multiple HW wands, haste wand, etc).

That line of thinking is detrimental to winning at crawl I'm afraid. It's like any form of gambling, you have to consider the potential payoff and the chance of getting payed. In the trove case the chance of getting payed is usually small. Yes, sometimes the payoff is huge, but usually the payoff is also small. Combing small payoff with low chance means a big investment is not justified. Personally, I would say even a single potion of heal wounds is too much.
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Post Friday, 10th June 2016, 18:16

Re: Troves...... Should I?

1 acq, I would do. 2 acq, probably not... if the only reason you wanna go in is "I already have everything I would want, so it doesn't matter", then sure, but only out of idle curiousity.

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Post Friday, 10th June 2016, 21:19

Re: Troves...... Should I?

I suppose the rule should be extended to: If you are mopl, always take the trove.

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Post Friday, 10th June 2016, 22:47

Re: Troves...... Should I?

trove asked for wand of hasting and I got 2 wands of hasting in there, how many wands of heal wounds I have?
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Post Sunday, 12th June 2016, 04:06

Re: Troves...... Should I?

4Hooves2Appendages wrote:
rchandra wrote:Get the trove if it seems feasible (so not the 2 acq unless I find two at once, or there are two for sale, etc). I once gave a trove every HW potion in the game up to d:20 and both S-branches (forget how many - maybe 16?), and was happy with the outcome (multiple HW wands, haste wand, etc).

That line of thinking is detrimental to winning at crawl I'm afraid. It's like any form of gambling, you have to consider the potential payoff and the chance of getting payed. In the trove case the chance of getting payed is usually small. Yes, sometimes the payoff is huge, but usually the payoff is also small. Combing small payoff with low chance means a big investment is not justified. Personally, I would say even a single potion of heal wounds is too much.


I should not have implied that my gamble in that game was good overall - you're right of course, I just wanted to see in the trove more than I wanted to win, and crawl is not a game where making a mistake is always a death. However at least personally, I know for a fact that I'm not going to use all the (for example) HW I have, if I have a wand and some recharging - even if having so much means the correct play is to just use it more often. So in that situation at least, giving multiple HW, or the second wand, is correct. Your statement of "even a single HW is too much" is insane - it's not all that difficult to get one item which reduces the number of HW you need to use by more than 1.
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