Help with the demonic horde


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Post Friday, 1st July 2011, 15:17

Help with the demonic horde

I have been trying to abuse tornado ever since I read about it.

However, after getting untold high elves splatted I decided to give the slightly tougher demonspawn a shot. Everything is going well, I have air magic up to level 9 via clouds and orc 4 yielded a bookstore with spells of tornado, airstrike, swiftness, haste, flight, and deflect missiles. I also have about every ice spell out there, since there was an ice cave that dropped 4 books of magic. Between this and Vehemut’s gifts I am feeling pretty good.

I am feeling even better when I my second body mutation turns out to be demonic guardian, and it is already to level 3! (The first one is resist cold, and has been hanging out at that level).

As I keep killing stuff the following thoughts finally percolate through my brain:

1) Friendly summons turn hostile when you hit them with a spell.
2) Tornado hits everything in LOS.
3) If I am in a ‘stressful’ enough situation that I would want to cast tornado, I will also probably have executioners pop in next to me, only to get hit by tornado.
4) It would probably be bad to have these now hostile executioners standing next to me every time I am in a stressful situation.

So……

I picked up berserkities as a mutation so melee is pretty much out.
I have pretty good spell casting (14) air (9) and conjurations (10, and disabled atm). My summoning, poison, translocations skills are 4-5.
I have no ranks in necromancy, transformations, ice, fire, earth, charms, or hexes.
In fact, I have found basically no fire, earth, or necromantic (read, no sublimation of blood, regeneration, or low level necro spells), spells at all.
I do however have rings of magical power and wizardry, and a staff of wizardry that I am using.
My (only) other options are rings of ice or sustain abilities, but I do have 6(!) scrolls of amnesia.

Yes, this would be easier to do with a character dump, but I do not have access to that right now.

Current strategy:
I have been using mephitic and poison cloud for AoE, and mystic blast/OOD for single target fun.

Path ahead:
?????????


These are the options I see, but TBH I feel like I am not picking up on everything so please help me out.

a) Full summoner: I dump mystic blast and pick up airstrike so I can smite past summons. Vehemut has gifted me the usual set of summoning spells.
b) Ice Elementalist: With a ring of ice and the full set of ice spells I can run refrigeration, frozen cloud, and ice bolt/throw icicle. This will also give a nice buff with Oz’s armor.
c) Some other combination that I have not thought about.

I would really like to hear your thoughts and philosophies about where to go since atm I really only have experience with berserkers, generic hybrids, and blasty mages.
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Shoals Surfer

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Post Friday, 1st July 2011, 16:32

Re: Help with the demonic horde

Why limit yourself to either/or? My Summoner uses Mystic Blast and LRD with impugnity. You just have to watch your targetting and be aware that sometimes you'll get hostiles. But if you're worshipping Vehumet, you'll have Abjuration in your book. It only works on hostile summons. So, although turns get wasted abjuring hostile summons, and sometimes this can be bad, generally you don't have to panic too hard. Admittedly, Tornado and Refrigeration won't work often with your constant demon pet; but don't be afraid to use it as an opening attack since your pet is summoned based on tension.

What summons are you at, right now? Personally, my philosophy is to go:
Spammals => Savage it with Dogs => Summon Demons (keep if you have space) => Haunt (keep) => XXX or Dragons or Portal Tentacle
Scorpions and Ice Beasts can be skipped over, as can Imps. Greater Demons is powerful but hostile 1's can really ruin your day before you manage to abjure them, so I consider them less useful.

Also, if you're in 0.8, Ice is generally a good option, especially if you have throw icicle. Make use of those books! Its just been hit with the nerf hammer in trunk apparently though.
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Shoals Surfer

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Post Friday, 1st July 2011, 17:00

Re: Help with the demonic horde

Right now the only summon spells I have are imps and abjure (the former I started with). Between my staff and ring I should be able to reliably cast up to level 5 summoning spells.

I have never played a summoner, so I am unsure of the best way to do things.

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Post Friday, 1st July 2011, 20:10

Re: Help with the demonic horde

Tornado is hilarious with Demonic Guardian 3 up. The executioners that pop in won't really have time to hurt you before you kill them, as long as you don't dump AC completely. They're somewhat less helpful when you're trying to line up a Lightning Bolt, though, and this applies just as well to basic attack conjurations of all the other elements.

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Post Friday, 1st July 2011, 22:38

Re: Help with the demonic horde

i'd also say you should be fine with tornado. otherwise, air strike is not too bad. you could also go for ice storm, would make avoiding your guardians a bit easier i guess.
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Shoals Surfer

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Post Monday, 4th July 2011, 21:34

Re: Help with the demonic horde

Alas, I the Hubris monster got me, it was in the form of a Deep Elf Annihilator when I felt that XL 18 was enough for Elf 5.

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