CiP: KoMo of Makhleb

Thursday, 21st April 2016, 21:24 by Blomdor

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.18-a0-1793-g3b92f7b (webtiles) character file. Blomdor the Martial Artist (Kobold Monk) Turns: 11490, Time: 00:44:24 Health: 69/69 AC: 18 Str: 19 XL: 12 Next: 9% Magic: 16/16 EV: 22 Int: 8 God: Makhleb [******] Gold: 1310 SH: 0 Dex: 20 Spells: 0 memorised, 11 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis . - Unarmed rCold . . . Gourm . r - +4 ring mail rNeg + . . Faith . (shield restricted) rPois + Spirit . g - +0 helmet rElec + Dismiss . G - +0 cloak {rPois} rCorr . Reflect . H - +2 pair of gloves of the Valley {rElec Dex+4} SustAt . Harm . e - +1 pair of boots MR ..... q - amulet of regeneration Stlth ++........ x - ring of positive energy j - +4 ring of strength @: not resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy A: carnivore 3, clumsy 1, frail 1, MP-powered wands a: Minor Destruction, Lesser Servant of Makhleb, Major Destruction, Greater Servant of Makhleb, Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Makhleb. Makhleb is exalted by your worship. You are completely stuffed. You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 15 of its levels. You have collected 1310 gold pieces. Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time. You are clumsy. (Dex -2) You are frail (-10% HP). You expend magic power (3 MP) to strengthen your wands. Skills: + Level 9.8 Fighting - Level 5.0 Armour + Level 10.3 Dodging - Level 2.6 Stealth * Level 12.1 Unarmed Combat + Level 5.8 Invocations You have 11 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Inventory: Hand Weapons d - an uncursed blowgun Missiles i - 7 curare-tipped needles {=f} Armour e - a +1 pair of boots (worn) g - a +0 helmet (worn) r - a +4 ring mail (worn) t - a +0 cloak G - a +0 cloak of poison resistance (worn) H - the +2 pair of gloves of the Valley (worn) {rElec Dex+4} (You acquired it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) It affects your dexterity (+4). It insulates you from electricity. I - the +18 shield of the gong {rElec rN+ MR+ EV-5} (You acquired it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) It affects your evasion (-5). It insulates you from electricity. It protects you from negative energy. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. Jewellery j - a +4 ring of strength (left hand) q - an amulet of regeneration (around neck) u - an uncursed ring of stealth x - a ring of positive energy (right hand) y - an uncursed ring of sustain attributes Wands w - a wand of flame A - a wand of lightning B - a wand of teleportation (5/9) {!d@v4} D - a wand of polymorph {zapped: 3} Scrolls k - a scroll of enchant armour m - 9 scrolls of identify {@r1} n - 4 scrolls of amnesia Potions a - a potion of degeneration {!q} c - a potion of brilliance f - 2 potions of lignification {!q} h - a potion of resistance s - a potion of agility v - 2 potions of berserk rage {!q} z - a potion of ambrosia Books o - a book of Callings p - a book of the Warp E - a book of Enchantments Comestibles b - 7 meat rations l - 2 slices of pizza C - a beef jerky F - 5 chunks of flesh Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (11/15) Temple (1/1) D:5 Lair (1/8) D:10 Orc (2/2) D:11 Elf: Orc:2 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Pakellas Qazlal Ru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Portals: Trove: D:11 (give 2 potions of cure mutation) Annotations: Orc:1 Maud Orc:2 Saint Roka ... ....................... .. ........................ ........................ ....................... ..................#### .###...'####.....## ##...%...#..+### #.......#..... ....#.@...#....... ... #..⌠..#......#. ...⌠...........⌠.... #................. ##.......⌠........ #............... ..##..⌠..>..⌠..## . ##.....[...#. ##...⌠....# There are no monsters in sight! Message History The giant frog hits you but does no damage. Found a stone staircase leading down. You punch the giant frog! The giant frog is heavily wounded. The giant frog hits you but does no damage. You hit the giant frog. The giant frog is severely wounded. The giant frog barely misses you. You barely miss the giant frog. The giant frog is severely wounded. The giant frog misses you. You pummel the giant frog!! You kill the giant frog! Makhleb accepts your kill. You feel better. No target in view! No target in view! You see here a spiny frog corpse. You butcher the spiny frog corpse. Things that are here: an inedible chunk of flesh; a spiny frog skeleton Found a helmet. You see here a giant frog corpse. You see here a giant frog corpse. You butcher the giant frog corpse. F - 5 chunks of flesh (gained 3) You are alive. Your movement speed is average. Your attack speed is quite fast. Your base attributes are Str 15, Int 8, Dex 18. You are not resistant to hostile enchantments. You are unstealthy. Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 92 | 153 | 502 | 869 || 1616 Punch | | 3 | 26 | 58 || 87 Invok: Lesser Servant of | | | | 1 || 1 Greater Servant o | | | | 1 || 1 Evoke: Wand | | | | 2 || 2 Use: Scroll | 2 | 3 | 7 | 10 || 22 Potion | 1 | 6 | 5 | 6 || 18 Stab: Sleeping | 7 | 11 | 8 | 6 || 32 Distracted | | 1 | | || 1 Invisible | | | | 3 || 3 Eat: Chunk | 9 | 5 | 12 | 19 || 45 Armor: Robe | 11 | 20 | 43 | || 74 Ring mail | | | 70 | 234 || 304 Skin | | | 3 | 1 || 4 Dodge: Dodged | 122 | 141 | 421 | 871 || 1555 Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Blomdor the Kobold Monk began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 1/1 312 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/19 MP: 2/2 721 | D:2 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 725 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/24 MP: 3/3 960 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting 960 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 960 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 29/29 MP: 4/4 1007 | D:2 | Found an opulent altar of Gozag. 1099 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Dodging 1368 | D:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 1411 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 29/33 MP: 5/5 1517 | D:3 | Identified 3 potions of resistance 1522 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat 1821 | D:3 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 1896 | D:3 | Noticed Robin 1951 | D:3 | Killed Robin 1954 | D:3 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 38/39 MP: 6/6 2363 | D:4 | Noticed Sigmund 2399 | D:4 | Killed Sigmund 2399 | D:4 | Reached skill level 2 in Armour 2719 | D:4 | Noticed rpophessagr's ghost (novice DEEE) 2719 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 2726 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 44/44 MP: 7/7 2755 | D:4 | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas. 2755 | D:4 | Noticed a wolf spider 2767 | D:4 | Killed a wolf spider 2790 | D:4 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 2847 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 2847 | D:4 | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat 3058 | D:4 | Killed rpophessagr's ghost 3058 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 3058 | D:4 | Reached skill level 3 in Armour 3058 | D:4 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 49/49 MP: 8/8 3262 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3299 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Unarmed Combat 3605 | D:5 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 3626 | D:5 | Reached skill level 6 in Dodging 3849 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 3886 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Makhleb the Destroyer 3886 | Temple | Reached * piety under Makhleb 3886 | Temple | Reached ** piety under Makhleb 4430 | D:6 | Reached skill level 6 in Fighting 4430 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 47/55 MP: 9/9 4837 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Unarmed Combat 4845 | D:6 | Reached *** piety under Makhleb 4845 | D:6 | Reached skill level 4 in Armour 5532 | D:6 | Reached skill level 7 in Dodging 5920 | D:7 | Reached **** piety under Makhleb 5963 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 6060 | D:7 | Reached skill level 7 in Fighting 6090 | D:7 | Reached skill level 9 in Unarmed Combat 6336 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 63/63 MP: 10/10 6371 | D:8 | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal. 6390 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 6448 | D:8 | Reached skill level 8 in Dodging 6459 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations 7027 | D:8 | Reached skill level 2 in Invocations 7231 | D:8 | Reached ***** piety under Makhleb 7231 | D:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat 7385 | D:9 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 7847 | D:9 | Reached skill level 8 in Fighting 8277 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 8321 | D:9 | Reached skill level 3 in Invocations 8339 | D:10 | Noticed a gargoyle 8368 | D:10 | HP: 1/64 [gargoyle/stone arrow (15)] 8385 | D:10 | Killed a gargoyle 8610 | D:10 | Reached skill level 9 in Dodging 8661 | D:10 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 65/69 MP: 13/13 8773 | D:10 | Reached skill level 4 in Invocations 8924 | D:10 | Reached skill level 11 in Unarmed Combat 9093 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 9245 | D:11 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 9264 | D:11 | Reached ****** piety under Makhleb 9468 | D:11 | Reached skill level 9 in Fighting 9605 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 9707 | D:11 | Identified a wand of teleportation 9813 | D:11 | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations 9966 | D:11 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure. 10093 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 10621 | Orc:2 | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines 10657 | Orc:2 | Noticed Saint Roka 10664 | Orc:1 | Noticed Erica 10668 | Orc:1 | Noticed Maurice 10710 | Orc:1 | Killed Erica 10710 | Orc:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 10730 | Orc:1 | Noticed Maurice 10730 | Orc:1 | Maurice changed into Maurice the mottled dragon 10738 | Orc:1 | Killed Maurice the mottled dragon 10809 | Orc:1 | Reached skill level 12 in Unarmed Combat 10922 | Orc:1 | Noticed Maud 10923 | Orc:1 | Noticed a cacodemon 10938 | Orc:1 | Gained mutation: You expend magic power (3 MP) to strengthen your wands. [a cacodemon] 10945 | Orc:1 | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [a cacodemon] 10949 | Orc:1 | Gained mutation: You are frail (-10% HP). [a cacodemon] 11108 | Orc:1 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 53/69 MP: 16/16 11339 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 11367 | Lair:1 | Identified 3 scrolls of acquirement 11368 | Lair:1 | Got a scorched shield 11369 | Lair:1 | Identified the -2 shield of the Townfolk {Int+4} (You acquired it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) 11374 | Lair:1 | Got a pair of steaming gloves 11375 | Lair:1 | Identified the +2 pair of gloves of the Valley {rElec Dex+4} (You acquired it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) Vanquished Creatures Erica (Orc:1) A gargoyle (D:10) A spiny frog (Lair:1) The ghost of rpophessagr the Geomancer, a novice DEEE (D:4) 2 trolls Sigmund (D:4) A wyvern (D:10) A spriggan (D:8) 8 yaks A steam dragon (D:9) 2 hippogriffs A mottled dragon (Orc:1) 2 wargs (Orc:2) A water moccasin (Lair:1) 3 ice beasts An eye of draining (D:8) 9 orc warriors 4 sky beasts 2 black bears 2 necrophages 3 phantoms A wasp (D:11) 4 centaurs 7 ogres A crocodile (D:10) A big kobold (D:11) 7 giant frogs 2 wyvern skeletons A scorpion (D:7) 13 wights 4 howler monkeys (D:10) 3 electric eels 6 crimson imps A centaur zombie (D:5) A giant frog zombie (D:11) 7 hounds A quasit (D:8) A centaur skeleton (D:8) 3 jellies 16 orc wizards 2 gnoll shamans 12 orc priests 4 giant frog skeletons 5 iguanas 13 worker ants A killer bee zombie (D:8) A hound skeleton (D:6) A howler monkey zombie (D:8) 2 worker ant zombies Robin (D:3) 8 gnolls 7 adders A river rat (D:10) 2 shadow imps An ooze (D:3) An adder zombie (D:8) 2 adder skeletons 2 worms 3 dart slugs 9 giant geckos 52 orcs 2 ball pythons 18 bats 6 giant cockroaches 16 goblins 10 hobgoblins 16 jackals 7 kobolds 3 quokkas A giant gecko zombie (D:6) 5 giant newts A quokka skeleton (D:6) A quokka zombie (D:5) 17 rats 361 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) 2 orcs (D:11) 2 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A wolf spider (D:4) 2 yaks (D:10) 2 fungi (D:10) A plant (D:10) 6 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 369 creatures vanquished

After winning a ghoul and a vampire monk, I am back on the punching kick and having great fun. Ko's low HP demands a more careful approach than I am used to, but it has not been too difficult to survive thus far, and as nearly always with monks I'm having no issues with damage output.

There are two issues that I thought might be worth writing to you guys about in case someone felt like giving any input or advice. For one, Saint Roka is sitting on the only currently accessible way down to Orc:2, and, as reckless as I generally am, I'm not crazy enough to try to take him on with my current stats and equipment. This blocks my access to the potentially valuable shops there and may encourage delaying Orc until significantly later than is the norm for me.

More interestingly, I came across a pile of no less than 3 acquirement scrolls on the floor in Lair. One of these gifted me with the Shield of the Gong. As a kobold, I would need a full 21 shields skill to use this at its full potential, which would be a tall order even without the -2 penalty to the aptitude. However...it's the Shield of the Gong. I am curious as to whether anyone else would actually try to use this thing on a KoMo.

Any other suggestions and comments are appreciated.

Thursday, 21st April 2016, 21:40 by ZoFy

Things that would help you deal with Saint Roka include Makhleb's demons/conjurations, potions of invisibility/might/haste/agility and curare needles. However, you absolutely don't need to go to Orc now, the branch is normally done after Lair. And, given your circumstances, you might even want to clear a few dungeon floors before fighting Saint Roka (but after finishing Lair!) too.
As for Shield of the Gong, you probably know it's notorious for killing characters wearing it but in your case it might even kill you before you do so because 21 levels in shields is a gigantic unneeded XP sink. It would make for a hilarious YASD post if you're aiming for that.
Other suggestion would be not summoning greater demons if you can't escape from a hostile Executioner (e.g. don't have a scroll of blinking in addition to your teleport charges).

Thursday, 21st April 2016, 21:55 by Blomdor

Thanks!

Yeah, I'm pretty familiar with the Gong and I have a soft spot for it. I had a DgEE that won the game with it, even. But after all these games I still don't have a comfortable grasp on exactly how much aptitudes affect skill advancement and how steep the cost of really high levels can be. Said Dg never managed to get Shatter to a workable cast rate in part because of this. I had no idea how much I needed or what it would take with -1 aptitude. It is a good thing that it's not necessary to have such high level spells.

I'll drop the Gong, though it pains me to do so. More practical options will have to suffice.

Good point on the demons. It's already nearly gotten me killed once. Higher invocations makes the possibility of conjuring a hostile demon lower, correct? If so, at what point does the risk become reasonable? I'm currently at 9 invocations.

EDIT: Sigh, never mind. I had forgotten that merged slime creatures could one shot kobolds. I can never get used to these fragile races...

Friday, 22nd April 2016, 16:06 by ZoFy

I don't have an exact breakpoint number for you since i haven't played with Makhleb since 0.15 or so. Normally you'd want somewhere around 10—15 Invo with most Invo-based gods uncluding Makhleb. The number you pick mostly up to personal preference/XP budget and should be a bit higher if your god has an instant life-saving ability (Enter the Abyss, Step from Time, Sanctuary). In your case though it's probably unwise to run the risk of losing the game straight up if 3—4 minor servants can do the job (for example, killing a hydra by surrounding it) anyway. At least as long as you don't have a plan for the hostile executioner nightmare.
P.S. RIP.

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