CiP: strong TrBe: strategy for V:5

[mibert]

Hi all,

I'm playing a TrBe for an hopefully easy 3 rune win.

I had an easy time clearing swamp, spider, orc, elf, v:1-4

I wanted to check what the generally best strategy is for V:5.
Just BiA, Berserk and hope for the best? Or rather tele and hope for the best?

Also the amulet of reflection is crazy powerful, I can just '5' next to yaktaurs waiting for them to kill themselves. Does it somehow scale with SH?

Thanks!

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.18-a0-1774-gce1f7b6 (tiles) character file.

laiv III the Wrestler (Troll Berserker)            Turns: 52788, Time: 11:03:47

Health: 208/208    AC: 28    Str: 28    XL:     22   Next: 0%
Magic:  18/18      EV: 14    Int:  3    God:    Trog [******]
Gold:   4183       SH: 25    Dex: 18    Spells: 0 memorised, 21 levels left

rFire  + + +      SeeInvis +      - Unarmed
rCold  + . .      Gourm    +    Y - +7 fire dragon armour of Autotheism {+Inv rF++ rC- MR++}
rNeg   + . .      Faith    .    R - +0 large shield {rPois}
rPois  +          Spirit   .    F - +2 hat {rF+}
rElec  .          Dismiss  .    l - +1 cloak {+Inv}
rCorr  .          Reflect  +    (gloves unavailable)
SustAt .          Harm     .    (boots unavailable)
MR     +++++                    i - +3 amulet of reflection
Stlth  ..........               V - ring "Safurr" {rPois MR+ AC+2}
                                j - ring "Kinemish" {rC+ rN+ MR+ Str-3 SInv}

@: almost entirely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: unfitting armour, claws 3, thin skeletal structure 1, cold resistance 1, fast
metabolism 3, gourmand, low mp 1, regeneration 2, shaggy fur 1, tough skin 2
a: Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion,
Evoke Invisibility
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer


You are on level 4 of the Vaults.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are completely stuffed.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 40 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ice Cave and Volcano.

You have collected 4833 gold pieces.
You have spent 650 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Missiles
 o - 44 large rocks (quivered)
 J - 92 tomahawks
Armour
 a - a quicksilver dragon armour
 l - a +1 cloak of invisibility (worn)
 u - a +1 cloak of poison resistance
 F - a +2 hat of fire resistance (worn)
 R - a +0 large shield of poison resistance (worn)
 Y - the +7 fire dragon armour of Autotheism (worn) {+Inv rF++ rC- MR++}
   (You took it off a deep elf blademaster on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you turn invisible.
Rods
 E - a +0 rod of ignition (14/14)
   (You took it off a gnoll sergeant on level 7 of the Dungeon)
Jewellery
 i - a +3 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 j - the ring "Kinemish" (left claw) {rC+ rN+ MR+ Str-3 SInv}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Swamp)   
   
   [ring of protection from cold]
   
   It affects your strength (-3).
   It protects you from cold.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you see invisible.
 V - the ring "Safurr" (right claw) {rPois MR+ AC+2}
   (You found it in an ice cave)   
   
   [ring of protection]
   
   It affects your AC (+2).
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
Wands
 y - a wand of teleportation (5/9)
 D - a wand of digging (10/24)
 N - a wand of iceblast
 T - a wand of acid (12/15)
Scrolls
 d - 7 scrolls of fear
 e - 6 scrolls of identify
 g - 11 scrolls of teleportation
 v - 8 scrolls of magic mapping
 w - 2 scrolls of silence
 x - a scroll of fog
 H - 3 scrolls of enchant armour
 I - 14 scrolls of remove curse
 K - a scroll of holy word
 M - a scroll of enchant weapon
 Q - a scroll of acquirement
 S - 4 scrolls of blinking
 Z - a scroll of recharging
Potions
 c - a potion of cure mutation
 f - 6 potions of heal wounds
 h - 20 potions of curing
 q - 6 potions of agility
 r - 11 potions of lignification
 s - 6 potions of haste
 z - 2 potions of resistance
 B - 3 potions of flight
 C - 2 potions of invisibility
 P - 2 potions of might
 U - 4 potions of berserk rage
 W - 2 potions of brilliance
Books
 k - the Collected Works on Combat Magic and Toxins
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Magic Dart                   Conjuration                   1
    b - Throw Flame                  Conjuration/Fire              2
    c - Fulminant Prism              Conjuration/Hexes             4
    d - Lightning Bolt               Conjuration/Air               5
    e - Alistair's Intoxication      Transmutation/Poison          5
   
   
   Trog disapproves of the use of such an item.
 p - a book of Spatial Translocations   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Apportation                  Translocation                 1
    b - Blink                        Translocation                 2
    c - Shroud of Golubria           Charms/Translocation          2
    d - Portal Projectile            Translocation                 3
    e - Teleport Other               Translocation                 3
    f - Passage of Golubria          Translocation                 4
   
   
   Trog disapproves of the use of such an item.
 O - Sif Muna's Almanac of Assistive Contamination
   (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Infusion                     Charms                        1
    b - Sting                        Conjuration/Poison            1
    c - Song of Slaying              Charms                        2
    d - Excruciating Wounds          Charms/Necromancy             5
    e - Warp Weapon                  Charms/Translocation          5
    f - Poisonous Cloud              Conjuration/Poison/Air        6
   
   
   Trog disapproves of the use of such an item.
Miscellaneous
 G - a sack of spiders
 X - a phantom mirror
Comestibles
 b - 25 bread rations
 m - 16 meat rations
 n - 12 fruits
 t - 3 slices of pizza
 A - a chunk of flesh
 L - a royal jelly


   Skills:
 * Level 10.2 Fighting
 - Level 13.0 Throwing
 - Level 11.8 Armour
 - Level 9.7 Dodging
 - Level 15.0 Shields
 + Level 24.5 Unarmed Combat


You have 21 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (0/1) D:5            Lair (8/8) D:10
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:4       Spider (4/4) Lair:5        Slime (0/6) Lair:8
    Orc (2/2) D:10            Elf (3/3) Orc:2        Vaults (4/5) D:13
  Crypt (0/3) Vaults:3     Depths (0/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Vehumet
Xom
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
Orc:1 :   Orc:2 *[(:   Elf:1 [   Vaults:3 *===

Annotations:
D:8 exclusion: downstairs
D:9 exclusion: downstairs
D:13 1 runed door
Lair:2 exclusion: downstairs
Swamp:3 exclusion: 2 downstairs
Spider:3 exclusion: downstairs


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have claws for hands.
Your metabolism is lightning-fast.
You like to eat raw meat.
You heal very quickly.
You are covered in fur (AC +1).
You have very tough skin (AC +2).
You have a somewhat thin skeletal structure (Dex +2, Stealth).
Your flesh is cold resistant.
Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).


Message History

There is an open door here.
There is a large open door here.
There is an open door here.
Done exploring.
There is an open door here.
You see here a shapeshifter corpse.
There is an escape hatch in the ceiling here.
There is a large open door here.
There is an open door here.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
There is an open door here.
There is a large open door here.
Save game and exit?
Welcome back, laiv III the Troll Berserker.
Trog says: Kill them all!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Char dumped to 'morgue/laivIII.txt'.
Save game and exit?
[Y]es or [N]o only, please.
Save game and exit?

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Saint Roka (Orc:2)
  Arachne (Spider:3)
  2 deep elf blademasters (Elf:3)
  A deep elf master archer (Elf:3)
  A sphinx (Vaults:4)
  Agnes (Spider:4)
  Gastronok (Lair:2)
  The ghost of Juoquoc the Unseen, an adept SpEn of Dithmenos (Swamp:3)
  3 thorn hunters
  Roxanne (Spider:4)
  2 fire giants (Vaults:3)
  6 deep elf sorcerers
  Wiglaf (Spider:4)
  3 frost giants
  Aizul (Swamp:2)
  7 vault wardens
  5 ghost moths (Spider:4)
  An iron dragon (Vaults:4)
  Louise (Elf:3)
  2 orc warlords
  4 emperor scorpions
  3 deep elf elementalists
  A ghoul (Vaults:1)
  8 ironheart preservers
  4 stone giants
  3 very ugly things
  2 salamander stormcallers
  9 deep elf demonologists
  A spark wasp (Spider:4)
  Snorg (Orc:2)
  9 deep elf annihilators
  An ettin (Vaults:2)
  9 deep elf death magi
  A crystal guardian (Vaults:4)
  11 vault guards
  5 yaktaur captains
  Josephine (Orc:2)
  3 deep elf high priests
  The ghost of Umennywue the Grappler, a journeyman TrHu of Ru (D:10)
  Harold (Lair:3)
  A great orb of eyes (Vaults:2)
  A rakshasa (D:15)
  An entropy weaver (Spider:4)
  25 hydras
  7 centaur warriors
  An anaconda (shapeshifter) (Elf:1)
  3 ghost crabs (Swamp:4)
  3 death knights
  27 dancing weapons
  A catoblepas (Lair:8)
  8 ogre magi
  Erica (Lair:2)
  15 alligators
  9 death yaks
  A deep troll earth mage (Vaults:2)
  An orc high priest (Orc:2)
  A spriggan berserker (Swamp:4)
  2 spriggans
  28 deep elf knights
  The ghost of rtrddfckd the Covert, a journeyman SpEn of Dithmenos (D:11)
  A fire crab (Vaults:4)
  An iron troll (D:13)
  4 deep trolls (Vaults:2)
  A skeletal warrior (Vaults:3)
  6 swamp dragons
  3 shadow wraiths
  4 unseen horrors
  An unseen horror (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  2 giant orange brains
  3 flayed ghosts
  16 ironbrand convokers
  6 hill giants
  2 phantasmal warriors
  19 deep elf archers
  A swamp dragon (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  33 wolf spiders
  4 shambling mangroves
  A mana viper (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  9 harpies (Vaults:2)
  3 necromancers (Elf:1)
  Pikel (D:7)
  11 orb spiders
  A lindwurm (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  3 wizards
  52 ugly things
  A hill giant (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  7 orc sorcerers
  12 orc knights
  85 deep elf magi
  An octopode (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  9 cyclopes
  6 hornets
  A manticore (D:14)
  A moth of wrath (Spider:2)
  6 griffons
  4 salamanders (Vaults:4)
  13 elephants
  12 vault sentinels
  An elephant (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  3 black mambas
  5 centaur zombies
  Psyche (D:8)
  An ice statue (IceCv)
  A gargoyle (D:14)
  24 spiny frogs
  4 torpor snails
  2 rime drakes
  3 spiny frogs (shapeshifter)
  11 yaktaurs
  3 kobold demonologists
  An efreet (D:13)
  15 demonic crawlers
  8 freezing wraiths
  6 komodo dragons
  4 spriggan druids
  2 large abominations (Elf:1)
  3 tengu conjurers (D:13)
  11 trolls
  16 polar bears
  4 giant leeches
  27 jumping spiders
  4 boulder beetles
  10 bog bodies
  A hornet zombie (D:15)
  14 blink frogs
  Grinder (D:6)
  12 two-headed ogres
  53 slime creatures
  8 shadows
  4 air elementals
  A vampire (D:14)
  8 wraiths
  73 redbacks
  24 tarantellas
  4 water elementals
  81 yaks
  Sigmund (D:6)
  2 basilisks
  4 wyverns
  2 fire elementals
  A human (D:7)
  3 hungry ghosts
  Eustachio (D:6)
  13 hippogriffs
  6 fire bats
  35 vampire mosquitoes
  4 mottled dragons
  10 insubstantial wisps
  17 swamp worms
  3 wargs
  23 water moccasins
  2 giant eyeballs (shapeshifter)
  A naga (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  6 porcupines
  A hell hound (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  8 black bears
  9 ice beasts
  61 orc warriors
  A black bear (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  15 swamp drakes
  2 slaves (D:7)
  3 sky beasts
  10 wasps
  37 ogres
  15 wolves (IceCv)
  A necrophage (D:15)
  24 centaurs
  An ettin simulacrum (Vaults:2)
  20 crocodiles
  3 elf zombies (Elf:1)
  6 big kobolds
  5 earth elementals
  23 giant frogs
  A gnoll sergeant (D:7)
  2 wyvern zombies
  3 scorpions
  12 killer bees
  10 wights
  4 howler monkeys
  4 jellies
  7 electric eels
  2 lava snakes (Volcano)
  5 crimson imps
  3 giant frog zombies
  5 centaur skeletons
  19 orc priests
  10 hounds
  15 orc wizards
  5 iguanas
  5 worker ants
  A killer bee zombie (D:9)
  14 sheep
  A hound skeleton (D:11)
  A howler monkey zombie (D:9)
  17 gnolls
  11 adders
  69 river rats
  8 shadow imps
  4 oozes
  5 worms
  An adder skeleton (D:5)
  2 dart slugs
  9 giant geckos
  113 orcs
  13 bats
  3 giant cockroaches
  5 goblins
  9 hobgoblins
  15 kobolds
  5 quokkas
  A ball python (D:7)
  A giant gecko zombie (D:5)
  7 giant newts
  9 rats
  2 rat zombies (D:8)
  4 fungi
  3 plants
1881 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  2 deep elf sorcerers (Vaults:2)
  2 catoblepae (Lair:8)
  A death yak (Lair:8)
  Crazy Yiuf (D:7)
6 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A deep elf master archer (Elf:3)
  A vault warden (Vaults:4)
  A salamander stormcaller (Vaults:4)
  Nessos (Lair:6)
  A centaur warrior (Vaults:4)
  6 deep elf archers
  A deep elf mage (Elf:1)
  8 yaktaurs
  3 yaks (D:14)
  A giant eyeball (shapeshifter) (Elf:3)
  A swamp drake (Swamp:4)
  A slave (D:7)
  5 centaurs
  A giant frog (D:14)
  A gnoll sergeant (Orc:2)
  An orc wizard (D:14)
  A hound skeleton (D:7)
  A shadow imp (D:5)
  2 orcs (D:14)
  A quokka (D:2)
  A fire vortex (Vaults:4)
  31 fungi
  6 plants
77 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1964 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | laiv III the Troll Berserker began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 22/22 MP: 0/0
   303 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 26/29 MP: 1/1
   913 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Unarmed Combat
   954 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 33/36 MP: 2/2
  1362 | D:2      | Reached ** piety under Trog
  1394 | D:2      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  1396 | D:2      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  1396 | D:2      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  1454 | D:2      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  1705 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
  1705 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 40/44 MP: 3/3
  2096 | D:3      | Noticed a sky beast
  2108 | D:3      | Killed a sky beast
  2108 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat
  2108 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 29/50 MP: 4/4
  2675 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  2699 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  2699 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Unarmed Combat
  2699 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 59/59 MP: 5/5
  2874 | D:4      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  3517 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3580 | D:5      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  3612 | D:5      | Reached *** piety under Trog
  3628 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Unarmed Combat
  3628 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 66/66 MP: 6/6
  3890 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4385 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Unarmed Combat
  4429 | D:6      | Noticed Sigmund
  4442 | D:6      | Killed Sigmund
  4545 | D:6      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  4545 | D:6      | Noticed an Executioner
  4553 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 49/74 MP: 7/7
  4672 | D:6      | Noticed Grinder
  4680 | D:6      | Killed Grinder
  4680 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat
  4747 | D:6      | Noticed Eustachio
  4767 | D:6      | Killed Eustachio
  4792 | D:6      | Reached skill level 11 in Unarmed Combat
  4825 | D:6      | Reached **** piety under Trog
  5199 | D:6      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  5199 | D:6      | Noticed an angel
  5479 | D:7      | Noticed Pikel
  5497 | D:7      | Killed Pikel
  5497 | D:7      | Reached skill level 12 in Unarmed Combat
  5497 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 31/80 MP: 8/8
  5815 | D:7      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 88/88 MP: 9/9
  5860 | D:7      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  6760 | D:7      | Reached skill level 13 in Unarmed Combat
  6818 | D:7      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  6830 | D:7      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  7082 | D:8      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  7562 | D:8      | Noticed Psyche
  7573 | D:8      | Killed Psyche
  8355 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 96/96 MP: 10/10
  8507 | D:9      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  8732 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  8732 | D:10     | Noticed Umennywue's ghost (journeyman TrHu)
  8793 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
  8798 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
  8919 | D:10     | Reached skill level 14 in Unarmed Combat
  8927 | D:10     | Reached ***** piety under Trog
  9118 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  9233 | D:10     | Killed Umennywue's ghost
  9495 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  9576 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
  9629 | Orc:1    | Noticed a stone giant
  9780 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  9889 | Lair:1   | Found a frozen archway.
  9906 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  9985 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 10012 | IceCv    | Received a gift from Trog
 10144 | IceCv    | Reached XP level 12. HP: 77/115 MP: 11/11
 10186 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 15 in Unarmed Combat
 10561 | IceCv    | Identified a +0 rod of ignition (14/14) (You took it off a gnoll sergeant on level 7 of the Dungeon)
 11638 | IceCv    | Noticed a death yak
 11668 | IceCv    | Killed a death yak
 11774 | IceCv    | Noticed a frost giant
 11774 | IceCv    | Noticed a death yak
 11817 | IceCv    | Killed a frost giant
 11830 | IceCv    | Killed a death yak
 11873 | IceCv    | Got a bound tin ring
 11918 | IceCv    | Identified the ring "Safurr" {rPois MR+ AC+2} (You found it in an ice cave)
 12112 | Lair:1   | Reached ****** piety under Trog
 12580 | Lair:2   | Noticed Gastronok
 12598 | Lair:2   | Killed Gastronok
 12598 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 12647 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 131/131 MP: 12/12
 12815 | Lair:2   | Noticed Erica
 12838 | Lair:2   | Killed Erica
 12848 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 16 in Unarmed Combat
 12888 | Lair:2   | Found a dark tunnel.
 12906 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 13077 | Volcano  | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 13559 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Trog
 13827 | Lair:3   | Noticed Harold
 13846 | Lair:3   | Killed Harold
 14205 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 14816 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 17 in Unarmed Combat
 15271 | Lair:4   | Gained mutation: You have a somewhat thin skeletal structure (Dex +2, Stealth). [potion of beneficial mutation]
 15272 | Lair:4   | Gained mutation: Your flesh is cold resistant. [potion of beneficial mutation]
 15457 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Trog
 15513 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 15597 | Lair:4   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 16113 | Lair:5   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 16139 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 112/140 MP: 13/13
 17175 | Lair:6   | Noticed Nessos
 17200 | Lair:6   | Killed Nessos
 17315 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Trog
 18781 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 18825 | Lair:8   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 19133 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 18 in Unarmed Combat
 19683 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 20931 | D:11     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 142/146 MP: 14/14
 21166 | D:11     | Noticed rtrddfckd's ghost (journeyman SpEn)
 21194 | D:11     | Killed rtrddfckd's ghost
 21293 | D:11     | Received a gift from Trog
 22511 | D:13     | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
 22642 | D:13     | Found a runed door.
 22679 | D:13     | Noticed an azure jelly
 22679 | D:13     | a catoblepas changed into an azure jelly
 22717 | D:13     | Noticed a sphinx
 22717 | D:13     | an iron troll changed into a sphinx
 22722 | D:13     | Noticed a quicksilver dragon
 22722 | D:13     | a sphinx changed into a quicksilver dragon
 23187 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 23721 | D:14     | Received a gift from Trog
 24011 | D:14     | Reached skill level 19 in Unarmed Combat
 24101 | D:14     | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 24745 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 24820 | D:15     | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing
 24954 | D:15     | Lost intelligence.
 25921 | D:15     | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 25923 | D:15     | Received a gift from Trog
 26162 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 26701 | Orc:1    | Reached XP level 16. HP: 111/156 MP: 15/15
 26927 | Orc:1    | Found Gucuz's Book Boutique.
 27147 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 27154 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 27230 | Orc:2    | Found Vixiwif's Antique Armour Shoppe.
 27238 | Orc:2    | Bought a shiny large shield for 130 gold pieces
 27238 | Orc:2    | Bought an embroidered cloak for 130 gold pieces
 27238 | Orc:2    | Bought a fine robe for 165 gold pieces
 27247 | Orc:2    | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). [a neqoxec]
 27279 | Orc:2    | Identified the cursed +0 robe "Xeaff" {Regen+ Str+4} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)
 27348 | Orc:2    | Noticed Snorg
 27368 | Orc:2    | Killed Snorg
 27521 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 27585 | Orc:2    | Noticed Josephine
 27595 | Orc:2    | Killed Josephine
 27738 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 20 in Unarmed Combat
 27794 | Orc:2    | Found Dicadden's General Store.
 27803 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of haste for 160 gold pieces
 27884 | Orc:2    | Noticed Saint Roka
 27909 | Orc:2    | Killed Saint Roka
 28110 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 28236 | Orc:2    | Found Roufots's Antique Weapon Boutique.
 28306 | Orc:2    | Found Fecolit's Book Emporium.
 28780 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 29232 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 29243 | Swamp:1  | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 29759 | Swamp:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 30019 | Swamp:2  | Got a faintly glowing marble ring
 30020 | Swamp:2  | Identified the ring "Kinemish" {rC+ rN+ MR+ Str-3 SInv} (You found it on level 2 of the Swamp)
 30075 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Aizul
 30103 | Swamp:2  | Killed Aizul
 31237 | Swamp:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 31516 | Swamp:3  | Noticed Juoquoc's ghost (adept SpEn)
 31566 | Swamp:3  | Killed Juoquoc's ghost
 31974 | Swamp:3  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 163/163 MP: 14/14
 32058 | Swamp:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp
 32497 | Swamp:3  | Reached skill level 21 in Unarmed Combat
 33173 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 33174 | Swamp:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 33470 | Swamp:4  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 34345 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 34807 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 35412 | Spider:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 35645 | Spider:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 36642 | Spider:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 36832 | Spider:3 | Noticed Arachne
 36844 | Spider:3 | Killed Arachne
 36844 | Spider:3 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 153/175 MP: 15/15
 37311 | Spider:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Spider Nest
 37311 | Spider:4 | Noticed Roxanne
 37545 | Spider:4 | Noticed Agnes
 37560 | Spider:4 | Killed Agnes
 37677 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 22 in Unarmed Combat
 37694 | Spider:4 | Noticed Wiglaf
 37702 | Spider:4 | Killed Wiglaf
 37937 | Spider:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 38936 | Spider:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 39363 | Spider:4 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
 39416 | Spider:4 | Killed Roxanne
 39779 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 40037 | Elf:1    | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 40229 | Elf:1    | Got a pitted bronze amulet
 40232 | Elf:1    | Identified the amulet of Votrei {rElec MR+ Regen+ Int+2 Dex-5} (You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls)
 40237 | Elf:1    | Found Ixeuj's Antique Armour Shoppe.
 40689 | Elf:1    | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 40792 | Elf:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 41351 | Elf:2    | Reached XP level 19. HP: 180/182 MP: 16/16
 41435 | Elf:2    | Got a flickering ivory amulet
 41545 | Elf:2    | Identified the amulet of Bohehukh {Harm *Drain Str+2} (You found it on level 2 of the Elven Halls)
 41601 | Elf:2    | Found a runed gate.
 41601 | Elf:2    | Found a runed gate.
 41601 | Elf:2    | Found a runed gate.
 41691 | Elf:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 41921 | Elf:3    | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls
 42894 | Elf:2    | Reached skill level 15 in Shields
 43136 | Elf:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 43327 | Elf:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 43732 | Elf:3    | Noticed Louise
 43754 | Elf:3    | Killed Louise
 44007 | Elf:3    | Reached skill level 23 in Unarmed Combat
 44864 | Elf:3    | Noticed a Tzitzimitl
 45093 | Elf:3    | Reached XP level 20. HP: 181/191 MP: 17/17
 45133 | Elf:3    | Got a scintillating iron ring
 45299 | Elf:3    | Received a gift from Trog
 45354 | Elf:3    | Got a transparent fire dragon armour
 45476 | Elf:3    | Identified the +7 fire dragon armour of Autotheism {+Inv rF++ rC- MR++} (You took it off a deep elf blademaster on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 45487 | Elf:3    | Identified the ring "Pippexet" {rF+ Dex+6 Stlth-} (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 45526 | Elf:3    | Identified the Collected Works on Combat Magic and Toxins
 45587 | Elf:3    | Identified Sif Muna's Almanac of Assistive Contamination
 46160 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 46184 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 24 in Unarmed Combat
 46702 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 47450 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 48733 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 49331 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 49534 | Vaults:2 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 198/198 MP: 17/17
 49707 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 49863 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 49883 | Vaults:3 | Found Ypnie's Jewellery Emporium.
 49907 | Vaults:3 | Found Plog's Jewellery Shoppe.
 49987 | Vaults:3 | Found Enuheki's General Store.
 50161 | Vaults:3 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 65 gold pieces
 50375 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 50492 | Vaults:3 | Found Aplooqol's Jewellery Boutique.
 50774 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Throwing
 50797 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 51652 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 52563 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 52685 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 208/208 MP: 18/18

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------------------------+-----
Unarmed Combat |     4  5  6  7  8  9 12    13 14 15 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24    | 24.5
Dodging        |                          9                                     |  9.7
Fighting       |                                6  9             10             | 10.2
Shields        |                                   1  6  9       10 13 15       | 15.0
Throwing       |                                            6  8  9          13 | 13.0
Armour         |                                            2  6          10 11 | 11.8

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |    94 |   106 |   142 |   682 |  1637 |  1847 |  1982 |       ||  6490
       Punch             |     1 |       |     6 |    40 |    35 |       |       |       ||    82
Throw: Tomahawk          |       |       |       |       |     1 |     8 |       |       ||     9
       Large rock        |       |       |       |       |     6 |   111 |    53 |       ||   170
Invok: Berserk           |       |     2 |     3 |     6 |    13 |    21 |     4 |       ||    49
       Burn Spellbooks   |       |       |       |     4 |     5 |     7 |     2 |       ||    18
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |       |     2 |     2 |       |     3 |       ||     7
       Trog's Hand       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     4 |       ||     4
Evoke: Rod               |       |       |       |     8 |       |       |       |       ||     8
  Use: Scroll            |     9 |     5 |     5 |     7 |    16 |     7 |     8 |       ||    57
       Potion            |       |       |     1 |       |     3 |     1 |     1 |       ||     6
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |     1 |       |     3 |     7 |     1 |       |       ||    12
  Eat: Chunk             |    21 |    15 |    28 |    71 |   143 |   136 |   107 |     1 ||   522
       Pizza             |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |       |       |    12 |       |       ||    12
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     2
Armor: Animal skin       |    33 |     8 |    18 |     8 |       |       |       |       ||    67
       Robe              |       |       |       |    10 |       |       |       |       ||    10
       Troll leather arm |       |       |       |    79 |   197 |       |       |       ||   276
       Quicksilver drago |       |       |       |       |    12 |   522 |   120 |       ||   654
       Fire dragon armou |       |       |       |       |       |       |   240 |       ||   240
Dodge: Dodged            |    44 |    52 |    80 |   456 |   750 |   787 |   401 |       ||  2570
Block: Other             |       |       |       |    26 |    16 |       |       |       ||    42
       Shield            |       |       |       |       |   668 |  1205 |   150 |       ||  2023
       Reflection        |       |       |       |       |    33 |    37 |   187 |     2 ||   259
       Large shield      |       |       |       |       |       |       |  1378 |     2 ||  1380



[Bart]

Berserk on stairs is a bad idea. It is likely to end with enemies still in sight and if these include warden(s), you won't be able to escape upstairs. It's better to tele not slowed, not exhausted and with max HP, so your strategy shall be teleporting, finding a decent spot and summoning BiA there. I do not recommend using berserk in V:5 in general, as there always seems to be at least one guy waiting for you to get exhausted.

[duvessa]

please dont use that as your avatar

[Sagrath01]

I like to use haste and immolation for the welcome party. Set it off with ignition. Then just proceed with caution and be ready to escape before half HP. Use bros, not bserk

[zxc23]

Also the amulet of reflection is crazy powerful, I can just '5' next to yaktaurs waiting for them to kill themselves. Does it somehow scale with SH?

Reflection sends projectiles that you successfully block back at enemies. So yes, it does scale with SH.

[Airwolf]

WalkerBoh taught me to stairdance until a warrden shows up then haste/blink to a better spot. See duvessa's recent excellent post on good terrain in V:5. Reading ?mapping ASAP is solid advice: I usually do it on the 1st turn down the stairs unless there's an adjacent monster I'm worried about.

You can often clear out the welcome party + a good chunk of the quadrants' monsters with just this technique, and may never need to haste/blink to safer ground.

That said, the consensus around here seems to be to read teleport on the V:4 downstairs then go down so that you teleport ASAP on V:5. Or use an escape hatch down from V:4. Still use mapping ASAP and then find the best ground you can. This is what duvessa describes.

[mibert]

Also the amulet of reflection is crazy powerful, I can just '5' next to yaktaurs waiting for them to kill themselves. Does it somehow scale with SH?

Reflection sends projectiles that you successfully block back at enemies. So yes, it does scale with SH.

Thanks, good to know. It really feels almost too powerful with my large shield. i often dont even get to claw down ranged attackers as they quickly die by shooting themselves lol.

[mibert]

I like to use haste and immolation for the welcome party. Set it off with ignition. Then just proceed with caution and be ready to escape before half HP. Use bros, not bserk

Thanks that sounds like an awesome plan. I never used immolation beyond id-ing it.

[mibert]

I like to use haste and immolation for the welcome party. Set it off with ignition. Then just proceed with caution and be ready to escape before half HP. Use bros, not bserk

Thanks that sounds like an awesome plan. I never used immolation beyond id-ing it.

Hey, I tried it but it didnt work.

Ignition was way to weak to kill them before I was surrounded. One guy actually exploded cause my troll hit him but the others didnt care to join him.

I used blink and just ran. Used all my blinking/healing/haste and several teleports and lots of Trogs hand to survive in one corner killing with HP at 1 at one point

But I survived and got the 3rd rune.

I went on to clear zot and it was a piece of cake compared to V:5 despite several OoF and ancient liches.

Here's the dump; I'm now considering getting more runes as it felt too easy. Any advice on further skill leveling? Does dodging or armour make any sense? I think I'd got fighting and throwing otherwise.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.18-a0-1774-gce1f7b6 (tiles) character file.

laiv III the Heavyweight Champion (TrBe)           Turns: 72371, Time: 17:40:33

Health: 301/301    AC: 30    Str: 32    XL:     27
Magic:  17/17      EV: 19    Int:  1    God:    Trog [******]
Gold:   6890       SH: 31    Dex: 19    Spells: 0 memorised, 26 levels left

rFire  + + +      SeeInvis +      - Unarmed
rCold  + . .      Gourm    +    Y - +7 fire dragon armour of Autotheism {+Inv rF++ rC- MR++}
rNeg   + . .      Faith    .    S - +6 large shield "Raesuyff" {rCorr}
rPois  +          Spirit   .    F - +2 hat {rF+}
rElec  .          Dismiss  .    H - +4 dragonskin cloak
rCorr  +          Reflect  +    (gloves unavailable)
SustAt .          Harm     .    (boots unavailable)
MR     +++++      Rnd*Rage +    i - +3 amulet of reflection
Stlth  +.........               j - ring "Kinemish" {rC+ rN+ MR+ Str-3 SInv}
                                E - ring of Xogh {Str+2 Int+2 Dex+3}

@: almost entirely resistant to hostile enchantments, very unstealthy
A: unfitting armour, claws 3, thin skeletal structure 1, berserk 1, clumsy 1,
cold resistance 1, dopey 2, fast metabolism 3, gourmand, low mp 2, poison
resistance, regeneration 2, shaggy fur 1, tough skin 2, weak 1
a: Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion,
Evoke Invisibility
}: 3/15 runes: decaying, silver, gossamer


You are on level 5 of the Realm of Zot.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are very full.

You have visited 9 branches of the dungeon, and seen 51 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ice Cave and Volcano.

You have collected 7540 gold pieces.
You have spent 650 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Missiles
 o - 87 large rocks (quivered)
Armour
 F - a +2 hat of fire resistance (worn)
 H - the +4 dragonskin cloak (worn)
   (You took it off Tiamat on level 4 of the Realm of Zot)
 S - the +6 large shield "Raesuyff" (worn) {rCorr}
   (You took it off a deep elf demonologist on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   It protects you from acid and corrosion.
 Y - the +7 fire dragon armour of Autotheism (worn) {+Inv rF++ rC- MR++}
   (You took it off a deep elf blademaster on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you turn invisible.
Jewellery
 i - a +3 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 j - the ring "Kinemish" (right claw) {rC+ rN+ MR+ Str-3 SInv}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Swamp)   
   
   [ring of protection from cold]
   
   It affects your strength (-3).
   It protects you from cold.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you see invisible.
 E - the ring of Xogh (left claw) {Str+2 Int+2 Dex+3}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of dexterity]
   
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
 V - the ring "Safurr" {rPois MR+ AC+2}
   (You found it in an ice cave)   
   
   [ring of protection]
   
   It affects your AC (+2).
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
Wands
 f - a wand of heal wounds (8/9)
 k - a wand of teleportation (4/9)
 p - a wand of heal wounds (4/9)
 u - a wand of iceblast
 y - a wand of teleportation (5/9)
 D - a wand of digging (9/24)
 M - a wand of heal wounds (4/9)
 T - a wand of acid (12/15)
Scrolls
 a - 3 scrolls of blinking
 d - 8 scrolls of fear
 e - 4 scrolls of identify
 g - 11 scrolls of teleportation
 v - 6 scrolls of magic mapping
 w - 2 scrolls of silence
 x - 2 scrolls of fog
 I - 17 scrolls of remove curse
 K - a scroll of holy word
 Z - 2 scrolls of recharging
Potions
 c - 6 potions of cure mutation
 h - 23 potions of curing
 q - 6 potions of agility
 r - 11 potions of lignification
 s - a potion of haste
 z - 5 potions of resistance
 B - 5 potions of flight
 C - 3 potions of invisibility
 P - 3 potions of might
 U - 5 potions of berserk rage
Miscellaneous
 l - a box of beasts
 G - a sack of spiders
 J - a legendary deck of war {the Elixir}
 R - a legendary deck of summoning {Water}
 W - a legendary deck of wonders {Focus}
 X - 2 phantom mirrors
Comestibles
 b - 31 bread rations
 m - 24 meat rations
 n - 16 fruits
 t - a beef jerky
 L - a royal jelly


   Skills:
 + Level 22.3 Fighting
 - Level 13.0 Throwing
 - Level 13.4 Armour
 + Level 14.9 Dodging
 - Level 15.0 Shields
 O Level 27 Unarmed Combat


You have 26 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (0/1) D:5            Lair (8/8) D:10
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:4       Spider (4/4) Lair:5        Slime (0/6) Lair:8
    Orc (2/2) D:10            Elf (3/3) Orc:2        Vaults (5/5) D:13
  Crypt (0/3) Vaults:3     Depths (5/5) D:15            Zot (5/5) Depths:5

Altars:
Ashenzari
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Vehumet
Xom
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Lugonu

Shops:
Orc:1 :   Orc:2 *[(:   Elf:1 [   Vaults:3 *===   Vaults:5 (   Depths:3 :

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Abyss: Depths:3 Depths:4
Pandemonium: Depths:3 Depths:4
Ziggurat: Depths:1

Annotations:
D:8 exclusion: downstairs
D:9 exclusion: downstairs
D:13 1 runed door
Lair:2 exclusion: downstairs
Swamp:3 exclusion: 2 downstairs
Spider:3 exclusion: downstairs
Depths:1 exclusion: 2 downstairs


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have claws for hands.
Your metabolism is lightning-fast.
You like to eat raw meat.
You heal very quickly.
You are covered in fur (AC +1).
You have very tough skin (AC +2).
You have a somewhat thin skeletal structure (Dex +2, Stealth).
You tend to lose your temper in combat.
You are clumsy. (Dex -2)
Your flesh is cold resistant.
You are very dopey. (Int -4)
Your magical capacity is very low (-20% MP).
Your system is resistant to poisons.
You are weak. (Str -2)


Message History

You block the Orb Guardian's attack.
You scratch the Orb Guardian but do no damage.
The Orb Guardian is almost dead.
You miss the Orb Guardian.
The Orb Guardian is almost dead.
The Orb Guardian hits you!!
You take 18 damage, and have 253/301 hp.
You eviscerate the Orb Guardian!!!
You kill the Orb Guardian!
Trog accepts your kill.
You start resting.
HP restored.
Health restored: 301
Found a throwing net.
You found a blade trap!
You found an arrow trap!
You found a needle trap!
You found a needle trap!
Char dumped to 'morgue/laivIII.txt'.
Save game and exit?

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Tiamat (Zot:4)
  7 orbs of fire
  Mara (Depths:2)
  3 juggernauts
  4 ancient liches (Zot:5)
  Saint Roka (Orc:2)
  Margery (Depths:5)
  4 Killer Klowns (Zot:5)
  A curse toe (Zot:3)
  A caustic shrike (Depths:4)
  18 golden dragons
  Jory (Depths:5)
  Nikola (Depths:2)
  Arachne (Spider:3)
  Xtahua (Depths:5)
  A bone dragon (Zot:1)
  3 electric golems
  Jorgrun (Depths:2)
  3 liches
  24 Orb Guardians (Zot:5)
  15 tentacled monstrosities
  A quicksilver dragon (Depths:4)
  4 titans (Vaults:5)
  2 deep elf blademasters (Elf:3)
  A deep elf master archer (Elf:3)
  2 sphinxes
  Agnes (Spider:4)
  9 shadow dragons
  Gastronok (Lair:2)
  The ghost of Juoquoc the Unseen, an adept SpEn of Dithmenos (Swamp:3)
  2 draconian monks
  7 death cobs
  14 storm dragons
  7 tengu reavers
  3 thorn hunters
  Roxanne (Spider:4)
  9 fire giants
  9 deep elf sorcerers
  Wiglaf (Spider:4)
  14 frost giants
  10 draconian scorchers
  Aizul (Swamp:2)
  10 vault wardens
  7 ghost moths
  2 iron dragons
  Louise (Elf:3)
  A draconian knight (Zot:1)
  3 orc warlords
  2 draconian zealots (Zot:2)
  4 draconian shifters
  4 emperor scorpions
  A juggernaut zombie (Depths:2)
  3 deep elf elementalists
  A ghoul (Vaults:1)
  A reaper (Depths:3)
  8 ironheart preservers
  6 spriggan defenders
  3 draconian annihilators
  6 war gargoyles (Vaults:5)
  11 stone giants
  4 vampire knights
  2 draconian callers
  15 very ugly things
  9 black draconians
  8 green draconians
  2 salamander stormcallers
  2 juggernaut skeletons (Depths:2)
  10 deep elf demonologists
  9 white draconians
  4 spark wasps
  8 mottled draconians
  7 purple draconians
  6 yellow draconians
  Snorg (Orc:2)
  4 red draconians
  9 deep elf annihilators
  12 ettins
  9 deep elf death magi
  A crystal guardian (Vaults:4)
  34 vault guards
  16 yaktaur captains
  Josephine (Orc:2)
  A green death (Depths:3)
  5 deep elf high priests
  The ghost of Umennywue the Grappler, a journeyman TrHu of Ru (D:10)
  Harold (Lair:3)
  19 fire dragons
  A hell beast (Depths:5)
  8 great orbs of eyes
  2 rakshasas
  5 entropy weavers
  25 hydras
  10 centaur warriors
  2 spriggan air magi
  13 ice dragons
  An anaconda (shapeshifter) (Elf:1)
  3 ghost crabs (Swamp:4)
  4 death knights
  27 dancing weapons
  11 deep troll shamans
  A catoblepas (Lair:8)
  13 ogre magi
  Erica (Lair:2)
  4 tengu warriors
  A vampire mage (Depths:4)
  15 alligators
  9 death yaks
  10 deep troll earth magi
  A death yak (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  An orc high priest (Orc:2)
  5 spriggan berserkers
  3 soul eaters
  6 spriggans
  A sun demon (Depths:2)
  A storm dragon zombie (Depths:2)
  28 deep elf knights
  The ghost of rtrddfckd the Covert, a journeyman SpEn of Dithmenos (D:11)
  A fire crab (Vaults:4)
  5 iron trolls
  26 deep trolls
  A skeletal warrior (Vaults:3)
  A spark wasp zombie (Depths:2)
  6 swamp dragons
  5 hell knights
  5 shadow wraiths
  5 unseen horrors
  An unseen horror (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  5 giant orange brains
  4 flayed ghosts
  A putrid demonspawn (Depths:4)
  18 ironbrand convokers
  6 hill giants
  9 phantasmal warriors
  20 deep elf archers
  A swamp dragon (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  A tengu zombie (Depths:2)
  34 wolf spiders
  A sphinx zombie (Depths:2)
  4 shambling mangroves
  A mana viper (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  9 harpies (Vaults:2)
  4 necromancers
  An anubis guard (shapeshifter) (Depths:2)
  Pikel (D:7)
  11 orb spiders
  A golden dragon skeleton (Depths:2)
  A lindwurm (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  15 wizards
  72 ugly things
  A hill giant (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  7 orc sorcerers
  A stone giant zombie (Depths:2)
  An orb spider (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  14 orc knights
  86 deep elf magi
  A hornet (shapeshifter) (Depths:1)
  An octopode (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  9 cyclopes
  2 fire giant zombies (Depths:2)
  8 hornets
  A manticore (D:14)
  24 moths of wrath
  2 manticores (shapeshifter)
  A sixfirhy (Depths:4)
  8 griffons
  A fire giant skeleton (Depths:2)
  4 salamanders (Vaults:4)
  A frost giant skeleton (Depths:2)
  13 elephants
  A stone giant skeleton (Depths:2)
  13 vault sentinels
  A rust devil (Depths:5)
  2 elephants (shapeshifter)
  3 black mambas
  5 centaur zombies
  A water nymph (shapeshifter) (Depths:5)
  Psyche (D:8)
  An ice statue (IceCv)
  An orange demon (Depths:4)
  A gargoyle (D:14)
  2 hellions (Zot:2)
  24 spiny frogs
  4 torpor snails
  2 rime drakes
  3 spiny frogs (shapeshifter)
  24 yaktaurs
  3 kobold demonologists
  2 yaktaurs (shapeshifter)
  3 efreet
  A tormentor (Depths:4)
  16 demonic crawlers
  10 freezing wraiths
  6 komodo dragons
  4 spriggan druids
  An ice devil (Depths:4)
  8 large abominations
  3 tengu conjurers (D:13)
  11 trolls
  16 polar bears
  4 giant leeches
  28 jumping spiders
  5 boulder beetles
  3 ettin zombies (Depths:2)
  10 bog bodies
  A hornet zombie (D:15)
  14 blink frogs
  Grinder (D:6)
  18 two-headed ogres
  53 slime creatures
  8 shadows
  6 air elementals
  2 flying skulls (Depths:2)
  A vampire (D:14)
  9 wraiths
  82 redbacks
  A spriggan (shapeshifter) (Depths:5)
  26 tarantellas
  9 water elementals
  84 yaks
  Sigmund (D:6)
  2 basilisks
  A basilisk (shapeshifter) (Depths:3)
  4 wyverns
  3 fire elementals
  A human (D:7)
  3 hungry ghosts
  Eustachio (D:6)
  A chaos spawn (Depths:3)
  13 hippogriffs
  6 fire bats
  A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (Depths:3)
  38 vampire mosquitoes
  4 mottled dragons
  10 insubstantial wisps
  17 swamp worms
  3 wargs
  23 water moccasins
  2 giant eyeballs (shapeshifter)
  A naga (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  A hell hound (Depths:5)
  6 porcupines
  A hell hound (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  A giant eyeball (Depths:2)
  8 black bears
  9 ice beasts
  65 orc warriors
  A black bear (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  15 swamp drakes
  2 slaves (D:7)
  3 sky beasts
  15 wasps
  61 ogres
  A phantom (Depths:3)
  15 wolves (IceCv)
  A necrophage (D:15)
  An ogre (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  4 boggarts
  26 centaurs
  An ettin simulacrum (Vaults:2)
  20 crocodiles
  3 elf zombies (Elf:1)
  6 big kobolds
  5 earth elementals
  23 giant frogs
  A glowing shapeshifter simulacrum (Depths:5)
  A gnoll sergeant (D:7)
  2 wyvern zombies
  A small abomination (Depths:3)
  4 scorpions
  12 killer bees
  10 wights
  4 howler monkeys
  4 jellies
  7 electric eels
  2 lava snakes (Volcano)
  6 crimson imps
  3 giant frog zombies
  5 centaur skeletons
  22 orc priests
  10 hounds
  16 orc wizards
  5 iguanas
  5 worker ants
  A hell rat (Depths:3)
  A killer bee zombie (D:9)
  14 sheep
  A hound skeleton (D:11)
  A howler monkey zombie (D:9)
  17 gnolls
  11 adders
  69 river rats
  8 shadow imps
  4 oozes
  5 worms
  An adder skeleton (D:5)
  2 dart slugs
  9 giant geckos
  118 orcs
  13 bats
  4 giant cockroaches
  5 goblins
  9 hobgoblins
  15 kobolds
  5 quokkas
  A ball python (D:7)
  A giant gecko zombie (D:5)
  7 giant newts
  9 rats
  2 rat zombies (D:8)
  4 fungi
  3 plants
2569 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  An iron giant (Depths:4)
  A quicksilver dragon (Vaults:5)
  A fire giant (Depths:4)
  2 deep elf sorcerers (Vaults:2)
  2 draconian shifters (Zot:1)
  A vampire knight (D:15)
  A mottled draconian (Zot:1)
  A white draconian (Zot:1)
  A red draconian (Zot:1)
  An ettin (Vaults:5)
  A fire dragon (Zot:1)
  A vault guard (Vaults:5)
  2 catoblepae (Lair:8)
  A death yak (Lair:8)
  An orc warrior (Vaults:5)
  Crazy Yiuf (D:7)
19 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An Orb Guardian (Zot:5)
  A deep elf master archer (Elf:3)
  A tengu reaver (Vaults:5)
  2 draconian scorchers
  A vault warden (Vaults:4)
  A stone giant (Depths:5)
  A salamander stormcaller (Vaults:4)
  Nessos (Lair:6)
  A yaktaur captain (Depths:5)
  A deep elf high priest (Depths:5)
  2 centaur warriors
  6 deep elf archers
  A deep elf mage (Elf:1)
  A moth of wrath (Zot:5)
  10 yaktaurs
  3 yaks (D:14)
  A giant eyeball (shapeshifter) (Elf:3)
  A swamp drake (Swamp:4)
  A slave (D:7)
  4 boggarts (Depths:2)
  5 centaurs
  A giant frog (D:14)
  A gnoll sergeant (Orc:2)
  An orc wizard (D:14)
  A hound skeleton (D:7)
  A shadow imp (D:5)
  2 orcs (D:14)
  A quokka (D:2)
  A fire vortex (Vaults:4)
  31 fungi
  6 plants
92 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2680 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | laiv III the Troll Berserker began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 22/22 MP: 0/0
   303 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 26/29 MP: 1/1
   913 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Unarmed Combat
   954 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 33/36 MP: 2/2
  1362 | D:2      | Reached ** piety under Trog
  1394 | D:2      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  1396 | D:2      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  1396 | D:2      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  1454 | D:2      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  1705 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
  1705 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 40/44 MP: 3/3
  2096 | D:3      | Noticed a sky beast
  2108 | D:3      | Killed a sky beast
  2108 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat
  2108 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 29/50 MP: 4/4
  2675 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  2699 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  2699 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Unarmed Combat
  2699 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 59/59 MP: 5/5
  2874 | D:4      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  3517 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3580 | D:5      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  3612 | D:5      | Reached *** piety under Trog
  3628 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Unarmed Combat
  3628 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 66/66 MP: 6/6
  3890 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4385 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Unarmed Combat
  4429 | D:6      | Noticed Sigmund
  4442 | D:6      | Killed Sigmund
  4545 | D:6      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  4545 | D:6      | Noticed an Executioner
  4553 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 49/74 MP: 7/7
  4672 | D:6      | Noticed Grinder
  4680 | D:6      | Killed Grinder
  4680 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat
  4747 | D:6      | Noticed Eustachio
  4767 | D:6      | Killed Eustachio
  4792 | D:6      | Reached skill level 11 in Unarmed Combat
  4825 | D:6      | Reached **** piety under Trog
  5199 | D:6      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  5199 | D:6      | Noticed an angel
  5479 | D:7      | Noticed Pikel
  5497 | D:7      | Killed Pikel
  5497 | D:7      | Reached skill level 12 in Unarmed Combat
  5497 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 31/80 MP: 8/8
  5815 | D:7      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 88/88 MP: 9/9
  5860 | D:7      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  6760 | D:7      | Reached skill level 13 in Unarmed Combat
  6818 | D:7      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  6830 | D:7      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  7082 | D:8      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  7562 | D:8      | Noticed Psyche
  7573 | D:8      | Killed Psyche
  8355 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 96/96 MP: 10/10
  8507 | D:9      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  8732 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  8732 | D:10     | Noticed Umennywue's ghost (journeyman TrHu)
  8793 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
  8798 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
  8919 | D:10     | Reached skill level 14 in Unarmed Combat
  8927 | D:10     | Reached ***** piety under Trog
  9118 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  9233 | D:10     | Killed Umennywue's ghost
  9495 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  9576 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
  9629 | Orc:1    | Noticed a stone giant
  9780 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  9889 | Lair:1   | Found a frozen archway.
  9906 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  9985 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 10012 | IceCv    | Received a gift from Trog
 10144 | IceCv    | Reached XP level 12. HP: 77/115 MP: 11/11
 10186 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 15 in Unarmed Combat
 10561 | IceCv    | Identified a +0 rod of ignition (14/14) (You took it off a gnoll sergeant on level 7 of the Dungeon)
 11638 | IceCv    | Noticed a death yak
 11668 | IceCv    | Killed a death yak
 11774 | IceCv    | Noticed a frost giant
 11774 | IceCv    | Noticed a death yak
 11817 | IceCv    | Killed a frost giant
 11830 | IceCv    | Killed a death yak
 11873 | IceCv    | Got a bound tin ring
 11918 | IceCv    | Identified the ring "Safurr" {rPois MR+ AC+2} (You found it in an ice cave)
 12112 | Lair:1   | Reached ****** piety under Trog
 12580 | Lair:2   | Noticed Gastronok
 12598 | Lair:2   | Killed Gastronok
 12598 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 12647 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 131/131 MP: 12/12
 12815 | Lair:2   | Noticed Erica
 12838 | Lair:2   | Killed Erica
 12848 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 16 in Unarmed Combat
 12888 | Lair:2   | Found a dark tunnel.
 12906 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 13077 | Volcano  | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 13559 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Trog
 13827 | Lair:3   | Noticed Harold
 13846 | Lair:3   | Killed Harold
 14205 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 14816 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 17 in Unarmed Combat
 15271 | Lair:4   | Gained mutation: You have a somewhat thin skeletal structure (Dex +2, Stealth). [potion of beneficial mutation]
 15272 | Lair:4   | Gained mutation: Your flesh is cold resistant. [potion of beneficial mutation]
 15457 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Trog
 15513 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 15597 | Lair:4   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 16113 | Lair:5   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 16139 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 112/140 MP: 13/13
 17175 | Lair:6   | Noticed Nessos
 17200 | Lair:6   | Killed Nessos
 17315 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Trog
 18781 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 18825 | Lair:8   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 19133 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 18 in Unarmed Combat
 19683 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 20931 | D:11     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 142/146 MP: 14/14
 21166 | D:11     | Noticed rtrddfckd's ghost (journeyman SpEn)
 21194 | D:11     | Killed rtrddfckd's ghost
 21293 | D:11     | Received a gift from Trog
 22511 | D:13     | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
 22642 | D:13     | Found a runed door.
 22679 | D:13     | Noticed an azure jelly
 22679 | D:13     | a catoblepas changed into an azure jelly
 22717 | D:13     | Noticed a sphinx
 22717 | D:13     | an iron troll changed into a sphinx
 22722 | D:13     | Noticed a quicksilver dragon
 22722 | D:13     | a sphinx changed into a quicksilver dragon
 23187 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 23721 | D:14     | Received a gift from Trog
 24011 | D:14     | Reached skill level 19 in Unarmed Combat
 24101 | D:14     | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 24745 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 24820 | D:15     | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing
 24954 | D:15     | Lost intelligence.
 25921 | D:15     | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 25923 | D:15     | Received a gift from Trog
 26162 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 26701 | Orc:1    | Reached XP level 16. HP: 111/156 MP: 15/15
 26927 | Orc:1    | Found Gucuz's Book Boutique.
 27147 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 27154 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 27230 | Orc:2    | Found Vixiwif's Antique Armour Shoppe.
 27238 | Orc:2    | Bought a shiny large shield for 130 gold pieces
 27238 | Orc:2    | Bought an embroidered cloak for 130 gold pieces
 27238 | Orc:2    | Bought a fine robe for 165 gold pieces
 27247 | Orc:2    | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). [a neqoxec]
 27279 | Orc:2    | Identified the cursed +0 robe "Xeaff" {Regen+ Str+4} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)
 27348 | Orc:2    | Noticed Snorg
 27368 | Orc:2    | Killed Snorg
 27521 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 27585 | Orc:2    | Noticed Josephine
 27595 | Orc:2    | Killed Josephine
 27738 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 20 in Unarmed Combat
 27794 | Orc:2    | Found Dicadden's General Store.
 27803 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of haste for 160 gold pieces
 27884 | Orc:2    | Noticed Saint Roka
 27909 | Orc:2    | Killed Saint Roka
 28110 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 28236 | Orc:2    | Found Roufots's Antique Weapon Boutique.
 28306 | Orc:2    | Found Fecolit's Book Emporium.
 28780 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 29232 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 29243 | Swamp:1  | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 29759 | Swamp:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 30019 | Swamp:2  | Got a faintly glowing marble ring
 30020 | Swamp:2  | Identified the ring "Kinemish" {rC+ rN+ MR+ Str-3 SInv} (You found it on level 2 of the Swamp)
 30075 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Aizul
 30103 | Swamp:2  | Killed Aizul
 31237 | Swamp:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 31516 | Swamp:3  | Noticed Juoquoc's ghost (adept SpEn)
 31566 | Swamp:3  | Killed Juoquoc's ghost
 31974 | Swamp:3  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 163/163 MP: 14/14
 32058 | Swamp:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp
 32497 | Swamp:3  | Reached skill level 21 in Unarmed Combat
 33173 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 33174 | Swamp:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 33470 | Swamp:4  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 34345 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 34807 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 35412 | Spider:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 35645 | Spider:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 36642 | Spider:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 36832 | Spider:3 | Noticed Arachne
 36844 | Spider:3 | Killed Arachne
 36844 | Spider:3 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 153/175 MP: 15/15
 37311 | Spider:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Spider Nest
 37311 | Spider:4 | Noticed Roxanne
 37545 | Spider:4 | Noticed Agnes
 37560 | Spider:4 | Killed Agnes
 37677 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 22 in Unarmed Combat
 37694 | Spider:4 | Noticed Wiglaf
 37702 | Spider:4 | Killed Wiglaf
 37937 | Spider:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 38936 | Spider:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 39363 | Spider:4 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
 39416 | Spider:4 | Killed Roxanne
 39779 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 40037 | Elf:1    | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 40229 | Elf:1    | Got a pitted bronze amulet
 40232 | Elf:1    | Identified the amulet of Votrei {rElec MR+ Regen+ Int+2 Dex-5} (You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls)
 40237 | Elf:1    | Found Ixeuj's Antique Armour Shoppe.
 40689 | Elf:1    | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 40792 | Elf:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 41351 | Elf:2    | Reached XP level 19. HP: 180/182 MP: 16/16
 41435 | Elf:2    | Got a flickering ivory amulet
 41545 | Elf:2    | Identified the amulet of Bohehukh {Harm *Drain Str+2} (You found it on level 2 of the Elven Halls)
 41601 | Elf:2    | Found a runed gate.
 41601 | Elf:2    | Found a runed gate.
 41601 | Elf:2    | Found a runed gate.
 41691 | Elf:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 41921 | Elf:3    | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls
 42894 | Elf:2    | Reached skill level 15 in Shields
 43136 | Elf:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 43327 | Elf:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 43732 | Elf:3    | Noticed Louise
 43754 | Elf:3    | Killed Louise
 44007 | Elf:3    | Reached skill level 23 in Unarmed Combat
 44864 | Elf:3    | Noticed a Tzitzimitl
 45093 | Elf:3    | Reached XP level 20. HP: 181/191 MP: 17/17
 45133 | Elf:3    | Got a scintillating iron ring
 45299 | Elf:3    | Received a gift from Trog
 45354 | Elf:3    | Got a transparent fire dragon armour
 45476 | Elf:3    | Identified the +7 fire dragon armour of Autotheism {+Inv rF++ rC- MR++} (You took it off a deep elf blademaster on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 45487 | Elf:3    | Identified the ring "Pippexet" {rF+ Dex+6 Stlth-} (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 45526 | Elf:3    | Identified the Collected Works on Combat Magic and Toxins
 45587 | Elf:3    | Identified Sif Muna's Almanac of Assistive Contamination
 46160 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 46184 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 24 in Unarmed Combat
 46702 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 47450 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 48733 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 49331 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 49534 | Vaults:2 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 198/198 MP: 17/17
 49707 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 49863 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 49883 | Vaults:3 | Found Ypnie's Jewellery Emporium.
 49907 | Vaults:3 | Found Plog's Jewellery Shoppe.
 49987 | Vaults:3 | Found Enuheki's General Store.
 50161 | Vaults:3 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 65 gold pieces
 50375 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 50492 | Vaults:3 | Found Aplooqol's Jewellery Boutique.
 50774 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Throwing
 50797 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 51652 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 52563 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 52685 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 208/208 MP: 18/18
 53085 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths
 53808 | Depths:1 | Found a gateway to a ziggurat.
 53878 | Depths:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 54230 | Depths:1 | Found a gateway to Hell.
 54251 | Depths:1 | Got a wizard robe
 54263 | Depths:1 | Identified the cursed +1 robe of Vemur {Stlth+} (You found it on level 1 of the Depths)
 54376 | Depths:2 | Noticed Mara
 54484 | Depths:2 | Noticed laiv III's illusion
 54598 | Depths:2 | Noticed Jorgrun
 54604 | Depths:2 | Killed Jorgrun
 54660 | Depths:2 | Noticed laiv III's illusion
 54779 | Depths:2 | Noticed laiv III's illusion
 55068 | Depths:2 | Noticed laiv III's illusion
 55073 | Depths:2 | Noticed laiv III's illusion
 55093 | Depths:2 | Killed Mara
 55422 | Depths:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 55596 | Depths:2 | Noticed Nikola
 55629 | Depths:2 | Killed Nikola
 55629 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 25 in Unarmed Combat
 56923 | Depths:3 | Reached XP level 23. HP: 198/228 MP: 19/19
 56932 | Depths:3 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium.
 57055 | Depths:3 | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 57056 | Depths:3 | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss.
 57188 | Depths:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 57799 | Depths:3 | Found a runed gate.
 57800 | Depths:3 | Found a runed gate.
 57800 | Depths:3 | Found a runed gate.
 57811 | Depths:3 | Found Mycoing's Book Boutique.
 58090 | Depths:3 | Got a smoking dire flail
 58094 | Depths:3 | Identified the +6 dire flail "Souten" {antimagic, rPois} (You found it on level 3 of the Depths)
 58375 | Depths:4 | Noticed a caustic shrike
 58375 | Depths:4 | Noticed a juggernaut
 58414 | Depths:4 | Killed a juggernaut
 58428 | Depths:4 | Killed a caustic shrike
 58671 | Depths:4 | Noticed an iron giant
 58736 | Depths:4 | Noticed a juggernaut
 58957 | Depths:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 59424 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 59705 | Depths:4 | Killed an iron giant
 59829 | Depths:4 | Killed a juggernaut
 60266 | Depths:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Depths
 60266 | Depths:5 | Noticed Jory
 60280 | Depths:5 | Noticed Margery
 60283 | Depths:5 | Killed Jory
 60423 | Depths:5 | Killed Margery
 60626 | Depths:5 | Reached XP level 24. HP: 210/245 MP: 19/19
 60631 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 26 in Unarmed Combat
 60738 | Depths:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 60834 | Depths:5 | Noticed Xtahua
 61027 | Depths:5 | Noticed a juggernaut
 61040 | Depths:5 | Killed a juggernaut
 61167 | Depths:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 61608 | Depths:5 | Found a gate to the Realm of Zot.
 61769 | Depths:5 | Killed Xtahua
 63188 | Vaults:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Vaults
 63293 | Vaults:5 | HP: 1/248 [titan/bolt of lightning (42)]
 63303 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 63353 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 63452 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 63501 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 27 in Unarmed Combat
 63554 | Vaults:5 | Reached XP level 25. HP: 100/258 MP: 19/19
 63572 | Vaults:5 | Gained mutation: Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage. [mutagenic glow]
 63608 | Vaults:5 | Got a transparent large shield
 63609 | Vaults:5 | Identified the +6 large shield "Raesuyff" {rCorr} (You took it off a deep elf demonologist on level 5 of the Vaults)
 63729 | Vaults:5 | Got a transparent jade ring
 63993 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 64003 | Vaults:5 | Identified the ring "Kudir" {Ice -Tele MR+ Str+2 Int+5} (You took it off a yaktaur captain on level 5 of the Vaults)
 64142 | Vaults:5 | Got a silver rune of Zot
 64291 | Vaults:5 | Gained mutation: You are dopey. (Int -2) [a shining eye]
 64439 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 64469 | Vaults:5 | Identified the Almanac of Dusty Displacement
 64553 | Vaults:5 | Got a smoking ivory ring
 64556 | Vaults:5 | Identified the ring of Xogh {Str+2 Int+2 Dex+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)
 64720 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 64759 | Vaults:5 | Found Uterywn's Weapon Boutique.
 65771 | Zot:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Realm of Zot
 65848 | Zot:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 65873 | Zot:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 66106 | Zot:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 66659 | Zot:1    | Gained mutation: Your system is resistant to poisons. [potion of beneficial mutation]
 67211 | Zot:2    | Noticed an orb of fire
 67219 | Zot:2    | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is very low (-20% MP). [an orb of fire]
 67227 | Zot:2    | Killed an orb of fire
 67308 | Zot:2    | Reached XP level 26. HP: 282/282 MP: 17/17
 67595 | Zot:2    | You fall through a shaft!
 68320 | Zot:3    | Received a gift from Trog
 68362 | Zot:2    | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 69910 | Zot:4    | Noticed Tiamat
 69994 | Zot:4    | Killed Tiamat
 70503 | Zot:5    | Entered Level 5 of the Realm of Zot
 70762 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 70774 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 70774 | Zot:5    | Received a gift from Trog
 70878 | Zot:5    | Received a gift from Trog
 70920 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 70929 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 70929 | Zot:5    | Reached XP level 27. HP: 182/296 MP: 17/17
 71160 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 71169 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 71175 | Zot:5    | Received a gift from Trog
 71607 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 71618 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [an orb of fire]
 71624 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 71743 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 71745 | Zot:5    | Lost mutation: Your body sometimes deteriorates upon taking damage. [an orb of fire]
 71804 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 71811 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 71820 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [an orb of fire]
 71824 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 71856 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 71864 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 71996 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 72010 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: You are very dopey. (Int -4) [an orb of fire]
 72013 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 72021 | Zot:5    | Received a gift from Trog
 72069 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 72070 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat. [an orb of fire]
 72077 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 72186 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 72204 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-----
Unarmed Combat |     4  5  6  7  8  9 12    13 14 15 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24    25    27          | 27.0
Dodging        |                          9                                                 12 14 | 14.9
Fighting       |                                6  9             10             13 15 16 19 21 22 | 22.3
Shields        |                                   1  6  9       10 13 15                         | 15.0
Throwing       |                                            6  8  9          13                   | 13.0
Armour         |                                            2  6          10 11    12 13          | 13.4

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |    94 |   106 |   142 |   682 |  1637 |  1847 |  1982 |  1831 |  1186 ||  9507
       Punch             |     1 |       |     6 |    40 |    35 |       |       |       |       ||    82
Throw: Tomahawk          |       |       |       |       |     1 |     8 |       |       |       ||     9
       Large rock        |       |       |       |       |     6 |   111 |    53 |    81 |    15 ||   266
Invok: Berserk           |       |     2 |     3 |     6 |    13 |    21 |     4 |     5 |     7 ||    61
       Burn Spellbooks   |       |       |       |     4 |     5 |     7 |     2 |     4 |    10 ||    32
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |       |     2 |     2 |       |     3 |     7 |     4 ||    18
       Trog's Hand       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     4 |    10 |     1 ||    15
Evoke: Rod               |       |       |       |     8 |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     9
       Wand              |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2
  Use: Scroll            |     9 |     5 |     5 |     7 |    16 |     7 |     8 |    20 |    13 ||    90
       Potion            |       |       |     1 |       |     3 |     1 |     1 |    12 |     2 ||    20
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |     1 |       |     3 |     7 |     1 |       |       |       ||    12
       Distracted        |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2
       Confused          |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
  Eat: Chunk             |    21 |    15 |    28 |    71 |   143 |   136 |   107 |    95 |    85 ||   701
       Pizza             |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |     3 |       ||     4
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |       |       |    12 |       |       |     1 ||    13
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       |     3 ||     5
Armor: Animal skin       |    33 |     8 |    18 |     8 |       |       |       |       |       ||    67
       Robe              |       |       |       |    10 |       |       |       |       |       ||    10
       Troll leather arm |       |       |       |    79 |   197 |       |       |       |       ||   276
       Quicksilver drago |       |       |       |       |    12 |   522 |   120 |       |       ||   654
       Fire dragon armou |       |       |       |       |       |       |   240 |   348 |   229 ||   817
Dodge: Dodged            |    44 |    52 |    80 |   456 |   750 |   787 |   401 |   344 |   215 ||  3129
Block: Other             |       |       |       |    26 |    16 |       |       |       |       ||    42
       Shield            |       |       |       |       |   668 |  1205 |   150 |       |       ||  2023
       Reflection        |       |       |       |       |    33 |    37 |   187 |    73 |    17 ||   347
       Large shield      |       |       |       |       |       |       |  1378 |  1480 |   956 ||  3814



[Sagrath01]

Glad you survived fespite ignition failed. Too low Evo? Strategy depends on being able to one or twoshot guards.

[mibert]

Glad you survived fespite ignition failed. Too low Evo? Strategy depends on being able to one or twoshot guards.

yeah, i have no evo and no idea on the strength of rods. i only ever used a rod in this very run for a statue.

[ZipZipskins]

immolating and blowing up guards on V:5 generates a ton of noise which in turn wakes up and draws in three titans, a gold dragon, a quicksilver dragon, and fifty vault humans of various nastinesses

so you shouldn't do it

[Sagrath01]

It can still be a sound strategy, though hardly optimal. Ive done it several times, lastly with a discord spriggan. Fun

[Airwolf]

Need more Int somehow to survive extended, especially Tomb.

[Hurkyl]

It can still be a sound strategy, though hardly optimal. Ive done it several times, lastly with a discord spriggan. Fun

Works with an Tornado / Chain Lighting enabled air elementalist worshipping Vehument too, although I don't bother with immolation. The noise actually makes things easier, since you clear out the wardens quickly and things just trickle into the kill zone while you have stairs as needed for quick escapes.

[mibert]

Need more Int somehow to survive extended, especially Tomb.

Thanks. I'm thinking slime and abyss then quaff some !cure mut and reevaluate. Not sure if stuff in abyss might drain int, which could lead to a sad ending.

[ZipZipskins]

It can still be a sound strategy, though hardly optimal. Ive done it several times, lastly with a discord spriggan. Fun

You might think it's fun but you shouldn't recommend it as a strategy when someone is asking how to handle V:5.

Remember, the question is, "what is the generally best strategy for handling V:5", the answer to which is clear it slowly and carefully, reposition yourself to not be surrounded, and find good choke points, just like it is for every other dungeon level in the game, not "generate a huge amount of noise and hope the stairs don't get locked behind you after you woke up all the titans and dragons".

If you can handle that strategy, great, but it's not a good strategy for the majority of characters, especially for a relatively new player who might not understand the repercussions of it.

[Sagrath01]

Youre absoluty right