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Abyss Ambulator

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Post Thursday, 24th March 2016, 04:59

YAVP (UPDATE): Six new Sprint turncount records

Whee! I just had the luckiest run I've ever gotten in the Sprint map Red Sonja. I had I'll get a bit technical below. If you don't care about details, watch the pretty movie. If you obsess over them, read on!

First, a bit of background: The old speedrun method, used by pubby, involved using Dithmenos's Shadow Step as a Spriggan Assassin to go through a series of such lovely monsters as the Lernaean Hydra and Lom Lobon. Basically, the technique was to stab a lot of the monsters close to the start, building enough xp and piety to reach Stealth 27 and high enough invocations to shadow step/shadow form past everything, then go. I saw another technique that involved skipping past the whole Lernaean Hydra/pandemonium lord section that involved blinking through some iron grates to the Orb, then using Passage of Golubria to get out. I tried that, got lucky, and managed a decently fast run of around 890 turns.

After that, my main question was whether it was possible to cut all side exploration out--whether the most direct route to the Orb of Zot also contained a manageable enough sequence of monsters to get me there. Turns out the answer is: yes. It took 72 tries in total to get the following run:

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Normally, you have to plan contingencies for a couple of monsters waking up. The demonic crawlers, hogs, and unseen horrors all gave me a lot of trouble often, but that was one of the uses of warper: I could lure them back to a cleared room, blink past them, and close the door. This almost worked twice. Once of those times, while I was attempting to get past the fire giants, they woke up and killed me at the last second. The second time, I got 3 squares away from the exit while holding the orb when my parked demonic crawler killed me.

Then this happened. Every single monster stayed asleep, and my plan went off with not a single problem creeping in. This run gets very close to the theoretical fastest possible run for Red Sonja, unless a new method is discovered: With the exception of the time spent running back with the Orb, where I could have saved a few turns by blinking instead of walking, there were only about ten unnecessary moves in the entire game (most notably killing the 12-headed hydra instead of ignoring it). The gif presents every move as it happened, with only some of the orbrun skipped.

The previous fastest run (which, by the way, is a work of art) clocked in at 322 turns and 2 minutes, 25 seconds.

This run cut it almost in half, to 172 turns and 2:13.

Again, I can't take too much credit here, since the stars aligned perfectly, and the odds of every monster staying asleep like that were embarrassingly low. I'm pretty happy about it, though. Speedrunning Sprint maps is a lot of fun.

EDIT: Okay, the first four sprints all have new records now. Keep of Menkaure and Fedhas both took a bit of work, but the 10 rune challenge record wasn't (still isn't) particularly impressive. Here are all logs.
Red Sonja: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/demonblade/morgue-demonblade-20160323-235830.txt
Violet Keep: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/demonblade/morgue-demonblade-20160324-220703.txt
Fedhas's Mad Dash: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/demonblade/morgue-demonblade-20160325-051546.txt
10 Rune Challenge: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/demonblade/morgue-demonblade-20160325-225723.txt

EDIT: Zigsprint is trivial using felid death teleport silliness. Kinda silly, really, but there you go. Here's the fastest-ever zigsprint run in all its silly glory:
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/demonblade/morgue-demonblade-20160326-002838.txt

This one in particular could be beaten almost effortlessly. It took about ten tries and isn't particularly well optimized. Just get to zig:10, die, grab the orb, win. I'd do it again, but I don't want it to end up as less turns than my actually fun Violet Keep run.

EDIT: For the sake of completeness, I went and did linesprint also, though that one is probably the least impressive of the bunch. All I did was take a VSMo*Chei through without entering extended endgame. Hard to do much creative stuff in linesprint, though I'm sure this score could be beaten convincingly.
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/demonblade/morgue-demonblade-20160326-045635.txt

That really is the end, though. The fastest pitsprint run is as close to unbeatable in current Crawl as it is possible for a run to be, since it relied heavily on old Elyvilon and some awe-inspiring powers. Meatsprint and Thunderdome are, of course, speedrun-proof. It's been fun, though! Sprints have a lot of fun speedrun potential.
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Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Thursday, 24th March 2016, 06:24

Re: YAVP: Red Sonja - New Realtime/Turncount Record

As I said in IRC, if following speedrunning has taught me anything, it's that there's always more time to save than you think.

I'm unsure how many tries it would take but I suspect you can probably cut at least 30 turns off of that. Kill fewer things (you can skip half the hogs, which plus the hydra is like 15 turns by itself), be much more aggressive with Passage use (learndb says 40-50 turn duration; I'm not sure if that's score-turns or 10-aut turns, but either way I'm sure you could've placed the passage differently to save turns, or use multiple passages perhaps), save turns on the way back to the <.

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Post Thursday, 24th March 2016, 16:07

Re: YAVP: Red Sonja - New Realtime/Turncount Record

What's the theoretical fastest for this route?
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Abyss Ambulator

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Post Thursday, 24th March 2016, 21:39

Re: YAVP: Red Sonja - New Realtime/Turncount Record

Tricky question to answer. Assuming maximum helpful RNG... well, insanely fast. That would assume constant blinks to ideal squares, though. Let's break down a more realistic option, assuming same RNG as this (all monsters stay asleep):

Currently, we have the following:
67 - Hog room
128 - Orb
172 - Escape

Let's run through unused resources:
1 ?blinking
1 extra !magic

The easiest place to cut turns would be the orbrun. This is what I see happening on a faster route:
1. Go down instead of up to Dith altar ( 1 turn)
2. Place PoG at the start of hog room instead of midway through Daeva room (~9 turns)
3. Kill only half the hogs and ignore hydra room (~15 turns)
4. Use extra scroll of blinking where I used PoG originally (same turns)
5. Don't stab either fire giant; only use shadow step (2 turns)
6. Don't miscast PoG (1 turn)
7. On orbrun, close doors behind me and blink instead of walking (7 or so blinks with perhaps 2.5 turns saved per blink)

That would come to around 42 turns saved, meaning that if someone has the patience to scum for this RNG, they can probably get this same win in around 130 turns. That's all estimates, of course, but that's about what I would expect with a fully optimized run of this route.
Last edited by Blade on Thursday, 24th March 2016, 22:19, edited 2 times in total.

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Post Thursday, 24th March 2016, 22:16

Re: YAVP: Red Sonja & Keep of Menkaure - Fastest Sprints

If you mean theoretical fastest you also do things like leave one of the demonic crawlers alive, not kill anything in the kobold/eye room, etc. Yes, these are single turns, but you are talking about a theoretical limit. You should not talk about theoretical limits in crawl.

Also you don't close the doors and every single blink takes you to your desired destination.

Theoretical.
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Post Thursday, 24th March 2016, 22:21

Re: YAVP: Red Sonja & Keep of Menkaure - Fastest Sprints

crate wrote:If you mean theoretical fastest you also do things like leave one of the demonic crawlers alive, not kill anything in the kobold/eye room, etc. Yes, these are single turns, but you are talking about a theoretical limit. You should not talk about theoretical limits in crawl.

Also you don't close the doors and every single blink takes you to your desired destination.

Theoretical.


That's why I was talking about practical instead, as indicated by this line:
Blade wrote:Assuming maximum helpful RNG... well, insanely fast. That would assume constant blinks to ideal squares, though.


On another note, I'm happy to report another victory! The Violet Keep of Menkaure turned out to be easier than I expected because of Felid death silliness, while Fedhas's Mad Dash is harder. I was 35 turns off pubby's run for Mad Dash after several hundred tries. After only 78 dead kitties, though, I'm happy to report that the Violet Keep of Menkaure has a new speedrun record. Using felid deaths to "strategically" place myself close to the orb, I got a felid warper through the Keep in 132 turns and 2:24. Here's the dump:
  Code:
 Dungeon Sprint DCSS version 0.18-a0-1627-gd3c2e7f (console) character file.

254337 demonblade the Unseen (level 6, 26/26 HPs)
             Began as a Felid Warper on Mar 24, 2016.
             Escaped with the Orb!
             The game lasted 00:02:24 (132 turns).

demonblade the Unseen (Felid Warper)                 Turns: 132, Time: 00:02:25

Health: 26/26      AC:  2    Str:  7    XL:     6   Next: 28%
Magic:  5/10       EV: 18    Int: 15    God:   
Gold:   0          SH:  0    Dex: 17    Spells: 3 memorised, 2 levels left
                                        Lives:  0   Deaths: 2

rFire  . . .      SeeInvis +      - Unarmed
rCold  . . .      Gourm    .    (armour unavailable)
rNeg   . . .      Faith    .    (shield unavailable)
rPois  .          Spirit   .    (helmet unavailable)
rElec  .          Dismiss  .    (cloak unavailable)
rCorr  .          Reflect  .    (gloves unavailable)
SustAt .          Harm     .    (boots unavailable)
MR     .....      NoTele   +    (no amulet)
Stlth  +++.......               (no ring)
                                (no ring)

@: very slightly contaminated, quick, not resistant to hostile enchantments,
fairly stealthy
A: no armour, no weapons or thrown items, claws 1, fangs 3, see invisible,
carnivore 3, speed 1, shaggy fur 2, slow metabolism 1, sharp paws
a: no special abilities
0: Orb of Zot


You escaped.
You were not hungry.

You visited 1 branch

Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear armour.
You are incapable of wielding weapons or throwing items.
You have sharp claws.
You have razor-sharp teeth.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time.
You cover ground quickly.
You are covered in thick fur (AC +2).
You have a slow metabolism.
Your sharp claws are effective at attacking unaware monsters.


   Skills:
 - Level 2.0 Fighting
 - Level 3.2 Dodging
 + Level 20.2 Stealth
 - Level 8.9 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 2.0 Spellcasting
 - Level 6.1 Translocations


You had 2 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
b - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          2%          2    ###....
e - Apportation           Tloc           ###.......   1%          1    #......
w - Passage of Golubria   Tloc           N/A          21%         4    #####..


Inventory:

Potions
 d - a potion of curing {@q1}
 g - 2 potions of magic
Books
 a - a book of Spatial Translocations   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Apportation                  Translocation                 1
    b - Blink                        Translocation                 2
    c - Shroud of Golubria           Charms/Translocation          2
    d - Portal Projectile            Translocation                 3
    e - Teleport Other               Translocation                 3
    f - Passage of Golubria          Translocation                 4
Comestibles
 c - a meat ration


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (1/1)             

Altars:
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Pakellas
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva
Lugonu

Annotations:
D Gloorx Vloq, Murray

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There were no monsters in sight!

Message History

Unknown command.
Aiming: Passage of Golubria
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Found eight items.
Aiming: Passage of Golubria
You miscast Passage of Golubria.
You are very lightly contaminated with residual magic.
Nothing appears to happen.
You see here the Orb of Zot.
You pick up the Orb of Zot! The Orb lets out a hideous shriek!
The lords of Pandemonium are not amused. Beware!
Now all you have to do is get back out of the dungeon!
You hear a chilling moan.
Aiming: Passage of Golubria
You enter the passage of Golubria.
There is a passage of Golubria here.
You enter the passage of Golubria.
You enter the shallow water.
Really walk into a travel-excluded area?
The walls and floor vibrate strangely for a moment.
You hear a snapping sound.
You hear a snapping sound.
There is an open door here.
There is an open door here.
You see here a necrophage corpse.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here.
Enter note: yay
Enter note: done :)
You have escaped!

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |     6 |    18 |     1 ||    25
 Cast: Passage of Golubr |       |     1 |     1 ||     2
  Use: Potion            |     1 |     1 |     1 ||     3
       Scroll            |       |       |     2 ||     2
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |     2 |     1 ||     3

Vault maps used:
D:        the_violet_keep_of_menkaure

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D        | demonblade the Felid Warper began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D        | Reached XP level 1. HP: 9/9 MP: 4/4
     1 | D        | Noticed a hippogriff
     1 | D        | Noticed a hippogriff
     4 | D        | Noticed a worker ant
     4 | D        | Noticed a worker ant
     5 | D        | Noticed a worker ant
     5 | D        | Noticed a worker ant
    10 | D        | Noticed a necrophage
    10 | D        | Noticed a necrophage
    10 | D        | Noticed a necrophage
    10 | D        | Noticed a necrophage
    17 | D        | Killed a necrophage
    17 | D        | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth
    17 | D        | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat
    17 | D        | Reached XP level 2. HP: 13/13 MP: 6/6
    17 | D        | Reached XP level 3. HP: 16/16 MP: 7/7
    17 | D        | Reached XP level 4. HP: 19/19 MP: 8/8
    20 | D        | Killed a necrophage
    20 | D        | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
    20 | D        | Reached skill level 7 in Unarmed Combat
    20 | D        | Reached XP level 5. HP: 22/22 MP: 9/9
    22 | D        | Killed a necrophage
    22 | D        | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth
    22 | D        | Reached skill level 8 in Unarmed Combat
    32 | D        | Killed a necrophage
    32 | D        | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth
    32 | D        | Gained mutation: You are covered in thick fur (AC +2). [Felid growth]
    32 | D        | Reached XP level 6. HP: 9/25 MP: 10/10
    33 | D        | sheesh
    41 | D        | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth
    56 | D        | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
    57 | D        | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
    57 | D        | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
    58 | D        | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
    58 | D        | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
    59 | D        | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
    59 | D        | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
    59 | D        | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
    59 | D        | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
    59 | D        | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
    60 | D        | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
    60 | D        | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas.
    60 | D        | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
    60 | D        | Noticed Menkaure
    61 | D        | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
    61 | D        | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
    61 | D        | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
    62 | D        | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
    62 | D        | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
    63 | D        | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
    63 | D        | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
    65 | D        | Killed Menkaure
    65 | D        | Reached skill level 6 in Translocations
    73 | D        | Learned a level 4 spell: Passage of Golubria
    76 | D        | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
    76 | D        | Noticed a death yak
    78 | D        | Killed a death yak
    78 | D        | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth
    78 | D        | Reached XP level 7. HP: 19/30 MP: 11/11
    78 | D        | Reached XP level 8. HP: 20/33 MP: 12/12
    81 | D        | Noticed a slime creature
    82 | D        | Noticed a slime creature
    82 | D        | Noticed a slime creature
    83 | D        | Killed a slime creature
    83 | D        | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth
    87 | D        | Noticed a deep elf master archer
    91 | D        | Noticed an unseen horror
    91 | D        | Noticed a fire dragon
    91 | D        | Noticed an unseen horror
    91 | D        | Noticed a spiny frog
    91 | D        | Noticed a spiny frog
    93 | D        | Shot with an arrow of frost by a deep elf master archer
    94 | D        | Reached XP level 7. HP: -38/30 MP: 8/11
    95 | D        | Noticed a curse toe
    95 | D        | Noticed Gloorx Vloq
    96 | D        | Noticed a golden eye
    96 | D        | Noticed a vampire knight
    96 | D        | Noticed a greater mummy
    97 | D        | Noticed an Executioner
    97 | D        | Noticed an Executioner
    97 | D        | Noticed an Executioner
    99 | D        | Killed by an exploding giant spore
   100 | D        | Reached XP level 6. HP: -6/26 MP: 10/10
   101 | D        | Noticed Murray
   105 | D        | Got the Orb of Zot
   112 | D        | Killed a golden eye
   131 | D        | yay
   131 | D        | done :)
   132 | D        | Escaped with the Orb!
             

Vanquished Creatures
  A death yak (D)
  A slime creature (D)
  Menkaure (D)
  4 necrophages (D)
  2 crocodiles (D)
9 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A golden eye (D)
  A spectral bat (D)
  2 giant spores (D)
4 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 13 creatures vanquished


Passage of Golubria is pretty awesome in sprint, it turns out. This guy didn't even bother worshipping a god--just got close to the orb, died, used his two blink scrolls, and PoG'd out. Before him, I had three or four others reach the orb but die on orbrun, so if you're looking for an easy sprint to try this sort of speedrun on, I recommend the Violet Keep. Fun stuff.

As a bit of trivia, that is now the fastest turncount win done in any Sprint map. I made little effort to optimize this one, though--just wanted to get through--and it should be pretty beatable.

EDIT: Okay, I finally beat the Fedhas score, 326 runs later. Truly miserable, and SpWr ended up not working the way I hoped for it. But... here it is. Lots and lots of RNG goodness:

  Code:
 Dungeon Sprint DCSS version 0.18-a0-1627-gd3c2e7f (console) character file.

281915 demonblade the Ninja (level 13, 7/66 HPs)
             Began as a Spriggan Assassin on Mar 25, 2016.
             Was an Elder of Dithmenos.
             Escaped with the Orb!
             The game lasted 00:07:16 (652 turns).

demonblade the Ninja (Spriggan Assassin)             Turns: 652, Time: 00:07:17

Health: 7/66       AC:  5    Str:  7    XL:     13   Next: 6%
Magic:  19/27      EV: 42    Int: 14    God:    Dithmenos [****..]
Gold:   119        SH:  0    Dex: 21    Spells: 0 memorised, 12 levels left

rFire  . . .      SeeInvis +    a - +2 dagger
rCold  . . .      Gourm    .    c - +0 robe
rNeg   . . .      Faith    .    (shield restricted)
rPois  .          Spirit   .    (helmet restricted)
rElec  .          Dismiss  .    o - +2 cloak {+Inv}
rCorr  .          Reflect  .    (gloves unavailable)
SustAt .          Harm     .    (boots unavailable)
MR     ++...      NoTele   +    (no amulet)
Stlth  +++++++...               q - ring of stealth
                                p - ring of stealth

@: very slightly contaminated, wreathed by umbra, drained, very quick, very
resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely stealthy
A: unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore 3, speed 3, slow metabolism 2
a: Shadow Step, Renounce Religion, Evoke Invisibility
0: Orb of Zot


You escaped.
You worshipped Dithmenos.
Dithmenos was greatly pleased with you.
You were not hungry.

You visited 1 branch
You collected 189 gold pieces.
You spent 70 gold pieces at shops.


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are tiny and cannot use many weapons and most armour.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
You are a herbivore.
You cover ground extremely quickly.
You need consume almost no food.


   Skills:
 + Level 6.8(6.5) Fighting
 - Level 2.1(1.9) Short Blades
 - Level 2.0(1.7) Throwing
 O Level 27(26.5) Dodging
 O Level 27(26.5) Stealth
 - Level 7.2(6.9) Invocations
 + Level 18.5(18.1) Evocations


You had 12 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +2 dagger (weapon)
 b - a +0 blowgun
Missiles
 e - 6 poisoned needles
 f - 2 curare-tipped needles {=f}
Armour
 c - a +0 robe (worn)
 d - a +0 cloak
 o - a +2 cloak of invisibility (worn)
Jewellery
 h - the ring of the Sky {rN+ MP+9 Int+2 Slay-3 Stlth+, unknown}   
   
   [ring of magical power]
   
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (-3).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
   It makes you more stealthy.
 p - a ring of stealth (left hand)
 q - a ring of stealth (right hand)
Scrolls
 m - a scroll of blinking
 n - a scroll of magic mapping {unknown}
Potions
 r - a potion of might
Comestibles
 g - a bread ration


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (1/1)             

Altars:
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Pakellas
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva
Lugonu

Shops:
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Annotations:
D exclusion: oklob plant

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You could see an Orb Guardian, a ynoxinul and 2 ufetubi.

Message History

There is an open door here.
You emerge from the shadows.
There is an open door here.
There is an open door here.
Things that are here:
a quarterstaff; a robe
You see here 17 gold pieces.
There is an open door here.
An orange demon comes into view.
There is an open door here.
There is an open door here.
The orange demon moves out of view.
There is an open door here.
A ynoxinul comes into view.
The ynoxinul moves out of view.
There is an open door here.
You see here a meat ration.
An Orb Guardian comes into view.
You see here 15 gold pieces.
There is an open door here.
You see here a rat skeleton.
The Orb Guardian completely misses you.
The Orb Guardian hits you!!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The Orb Guardian completely misses you.
The ynoxinul gestures.
There is an open door here.
You see here a poisoned needle.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here.
You have escaped!

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Dagger            |     4 |     6 |    28 |    39 |     2 ||    79
 Fire: Blowgun           |     4 |       |       |       |       ||     4
Invok: Shadow Step       |       |       |     1 |    15 |       ||    16
       Shadow Form       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
 Abil: Evoke Invisibilit |       |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     2
  Use: Potion            |       |       |     4 |     2 |     1 ||     7
 Stab: Sleeping          |     4 |     6 |    13 |    39 |     1 ||    63
       Invisible         |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1

Vault maps used:
D:        dungeon_sprint_fedhas

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D        | demonblade the Spriggan Assassin began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D        | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 2/2
    13 | D        | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth
    13 | D        | Reached XP level 2. HP: 14/14 MP: 3/3
    29 | D        | Noticed an oklob sapling
    31 | D        | Killed an oklob sapling
    31 | D        | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth
    31 | D        | Reached XP level 3. HP: 18/18 MP: 4/4
    35 | D        | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth
    51 | D        | yay
    59 | D        | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
    59 | D        | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
    59 | D        | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
    60 | D        | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
    60 | D        | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
    60 | D        | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
    60 | D        | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
    60 | D        | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas.
    60 | D        | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
    60 | D        | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
    60 | D        | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
    60 | D        | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
    60 | D        | Noticed an oklob sapling priest
    61 | D        | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
    61 | D        | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
    62 | D        | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
    63 | D        | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
    63 | D        | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
    64 | D        | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
    65 | D        | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
    65 | D        | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
    66 | D        | Killed an oklob sapling priest
    66 | D        | Reached skill level 14 in Stealth
    66 | D        | Reached XP level 4. HP: 22/22 MP: 5/5
    67 | D        | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
    71 | D        | Became a worshipper of Dithmenos the Shadowed
    79 | D        | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth
    79 | D        | Reached XP level 5. HP: 25/25 MP: 6/6
    84 | D        | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth
    85 | D        | Reached skill level 17 in Stealth
    87 | D        | Reached * piety under Dithmenos
    95 | D        | Found Notid's Antique Armour Shop.
    95 | D        | Found Piteu's Gadget Emporium.
   101 | D        | Noticed a burning bush
   101 | D        | Noticed a wandering mushroom
   102 | D        | Noticed a wandering mushroom
   105 | D        | Killed a burning bush
   105 | D        | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth
   105 | D        | Reached XP level 6. HP: 30/30 MP: 7/7
   106 | D        | Killed a wandering mushroom
   106 | D        | Reached skill level 22 in Stealth
   106 | D        | Reached XP level 7. HP: 33/33 MP: 8/8
   107 | D        | Killed a wandering mushroom
   107 | D        | Reached skill level 23 in Stealth
   111 | D        | Found Ihyifank's Antique Armour Emporium.
   111 | D        | Found Retz's Distillery.
   112 | D        | neat!
   119 | D        | Bought a potion of might for 40 gold pieces
   119 | D        | Bought a potion of curing for 30 gold pieces
   166 | D        | Noticed a queen bee
   173 | D        | Killed a queen bee
   173 | D        | Reached ** piety under Dithmenos
   173 | D        | Reached skill level 24 in Stealth
   173 | D        | Reached XP level 8. HP: 15/37 MP: 7/9
   195 | D        | phew
   197 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant
   200 | D        | Killed an oklob plant
   200 | D        | Reached skill level 26 in Stealth
   208 | D        | Noticed a burning bush
   211 | D        | Killed a burning bush
   211 | D        | Reached *** piety under Dithmenos
   214 | D        | Noticed a burning bush
   214 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant
   215 | D        | Noticed a wandering mushroom
   216 | D        | Killed a burning bush
   216 | D        | Reached skill level 27 in Stealth
   216 | D        | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
   216 | D        | Reached XP level 9. HP: 18/41 MP: 9/11
   221 | D        | Killed an oklob plant
   221 | D        | Reached skill level 7 in Evocations
   223 | D        | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
   225 | D        | Killed a wandering mushroom
   225 | D        | Reached skill level 4 in Invocations
   227 | D        | Got a scintillating glass ring
   237 | D        | Noticed a spriggan druid
   238 | D        | Killed a spriggan druid
   238 | D        | Reached skill level 7 in Invocations
   245 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant conjurer
   246 | D        | Killed an oklob plant conjurer
   246 | D        | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
   251 | D        | Noticed Agnes
   253 | D        | Found Arazxis's Antique Armour Emporium.
   253 | D        | Noticed a spriggan berserker
   256 | D        | Found Visulyr's Jewellery Shoppe.
   257 | D        | Killed Agnes
   257 | D        | Reached skill level 13 in Dodging
   257 | D        | Reached XP level 10. HP: 24/46 MP: 9/16
   262 | D        | Killed a spriggan berserker
   262 | D        | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
   265 | D        | Noticed a spriggan rider
   270 | D        | Killed a spriggan rider
   270 | D        | Reached **** piety under Dithmenos
   270 | D        | Reached skill level 16 in Dodging
   276 | D        | Reached skill level 17 in Dodging
   280 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant shifter
   280 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant meteorologist
   284 | D        | Killed an oklob plant meteorologist
   292 | D        | Noticed a spriggan rider
   294 | D        | Killed a spriggan rider
   294 | D        | Reached skill level 18 in Dodging
   294 | D        | Reached skill level 19 in Dodging
   296 | D        | Reached XP level 11. HP: 29/49 MP: 5/17
   314 | D        | Found Rogioguj's Weapon Shoppe.
   314 | D        | Found Xaorullu's Antique Armour Shop.
   314 | D        | Found Ciamn's Food Shoppe.
   315 | D        | Found Fimeliti's Food Emporium.
   315 | D        | Found Tumoekko's Weapon Boutique.
   315 | D        | Found Beushruul's Antique Weapon Emporium.
   315 | D        | Found Umisi's Book Shop.
   315 | D        | Found Tymuv's Assorted Antiques.
   324 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant
   324 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant
   324 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant
   324 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant
   324 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant
   324 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant
   325 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant
   326 | D        | Killed an oklob plant
   326 | D        | Reached skill level 20 in Dodging
   327 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant
   328 | D        | Killed an oklob plant
   329 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant
   330 | D        | Killed an oklob plant
   331 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant
   332 | D        | Killed an oklob plant
   332 | D        | Reached skill level 21 in Dodging
   333 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant
   334 | D        | Killed an oklob plant
   335 | D        | Noticed an oklob plant
   336 | D        | Killed an oklob plant
   336 | D        | Reached skill level 22 in Dodging
   338 | D        | Killed an oklob plant
   340 | D        | Killed an oklob plant
   342 | D        | Killed an oklob plant
   342 | D        | Reached skill level 23 in Dodging
   344 | D        | Killed an oklob plant
   346 | D        | Killed an oklob plant
   348 | D        | Killed an oklob plant
   348 | D        | Reached skill level 24 in Dodging
   361 | D        | Noticed a spriggan defender
   361 | D        | Noticed a spriggan defender
   364 | D        | Noticed a spriggan druid
   365 | D        | Killed a spriggan defender
   365 | D        | Reached skill level 9 in Evocations
   366 | D        | Killed a spriggan defender
   366 | D        | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
   367 | D        | Noticed a spriggan druid
   368 | D        | Killed a spriggan druid
   368 | D        | Reached skill level 25 in Dodging
   368 | D        | Reached skill level 11 in Evocations
   372 | D        | Noticed a spriggan berserker
   373 | D        | Killed a spriggan druid
   373 | D        | Reached XP level 12. HP: 41/53 MP: 16/21
   376 | D        | Reached skill level 12 in Evocations
   377 | D        | Reached ***** piety under Dithmenos
   381 | D        | Reached skill level 13 in Evocations
   384 | D        | Noticed a spriggan defender
   388 | D        | Reached skill level 26 in Dodging
   389 | D        | Killed a spriggan defender
   389 | D        | Reached skill level 14 in Evocations
   390 | D        | Noticed the Enchantress
   394 | D        | Killed the Enchantress
   394 | D        | Reached skill level 27 in Dodging
   394 | D        | Reached skill level 16 in Evocations
   398 | D        | Reached skill level 2 in Fighting
   402 | D        | Reached skill level 3 in Fighting
   414 | D        | Noticed a ghost moth
   418 | D        | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting
   418 | D        | Reached skill level 17 in Evocations
   420 | D        | Killed a ghost moth
   420 | D        | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
   427 | D        | Noticed a spriggan defender
   430 | D        | Noticed a spriggan defender
   431 | D        | Killed a spriggan defender
   431 | D        | Reached skill level 6 in Fighting
   431 | D        | Reached skill level 18 in Evocations
   431 | D        | Reached XP level 13. HP: 47/65 MP: 4/27
   432 | D        | Killed a spriggan defender
   434 | D        | Got the Orb of Zot
   565 | D        | Noticed an Orb Guardian
   637 | D        | Noticed an Orb Guardian
   643 | D        | HP: 6/66 [Orb Guardian (25)]
   652 | D        | Escaped with the Orb!
             

Vanquished Creatures
  the Enchantress (D)
  Agnes (D)
  A ghost moth (D)
  5 spriggan defenders (D)
  4 spriggan berserkers (D)
  4 spriggan druids (D)
  18 oklob plants (D)
  A moth of wrath (D)
  2 demonic crawlers (D)
  3 burning bushes (D)
  3 wandering mushrooms (D)
  A queen bee (D)
  7 wasps (D)
  2 scorpions (D)
  4 killer bees (D)
  5 oklob saplings (D)
  7 spriggans (D)
  A worker ant (D)
  A river rat (D)
  A rat (D)
72 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  2 fungi (D)
2 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 74 creatures vanquished

By far the most miserable part of Fedhas sprint, other than that you have to grind for good RNG even more than in the other sprints, is the orbrun. I think I've won something like 3 out of 12 times I grabbed the orb in that sprint because orbrun is so bad. I did nothing to really differentiate this from pubby's old high score, other than a bit more optimization/turncount management. A good part of it also was finding three rings of stealth. Whatever it takes, right?
Last edited by Blade on Friday, 25th March 2016, 05:29, edited 1 time in total.

Ziggurat Zagger

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Joined: Tuesday, 10th January 2012, 19:49

Post Thursday, 24th March 2016, 22:21

Re: YAVP: Red Sonja & Keep of Menkaure - Fastest Sprints

This run gets very close to the theoretical fastest possible run for Red Sonja

just saying

edit: OK you changed your claim earlier, ignore this post (apparently I can't delete it any more). Though to be fair my post above was directed partly at mr binary and not just you.

Vaults Vanquisher

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Post Thursday, 24th March 2016, 23:53

Re: YAVP: Red Sonja & Keep of Menkaure - Fastest Sprints

I ask because it the best way to compare speed run routes (for not crawl). It starts to break down if you start entertaining the ideas noone would actually do.

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