YASD: Okay, Seriously? That's just too much.

[Shinigami345]

This game has managed yet again to find a way to enrage me. This time it involves jellies which officially owe me 1 Dragon Armor after they ATE THE GD THING WHEN IT WAS 2 SQUARES FROM ME!!!!!!!!!! And that's not the YASD that's the event that leads up to it. So I chase the little punk down with malice aforethought. Much to my anguish some centaurs were waiting and we all know what happens when I have to fight centaurs...I die. This time it's especially enraging becuase this character had something that NO OTHER CHARACTER I'VE EVER MADE HAD! A crowd control method which according to the wiki works miracles in Elf (the final resting place of my greatest character). If you look at his gear you'll see a rod of venom (which in retrospect if I wasn't trying to get a corner on the centaurs and I lobbed a poison cloud in them it would have helped). Poison cloud quite literally nuked masses of orcs and such as well as helped me kill the Orc Knight in the bailey. Which brings me to another thing. That bailey had the WORST treasure in it EVER! I kid you not not a single randart just halbreds of electrocution and axes of returning. That was ALL I FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFING FOUND! I cleared it out only to find absolute unusable trash in it after almost dying twice. Oh and I hate item mimics too there was a SHINY CRYSTAL PLATE I kid you not and borris (my small abomination I accidentally summoned whom I swear was immortal since I lost him for a bit but then a few levels later he popped up right beside me from behind the mob I was fighting, but alas he died but didn't cause piety loss with oka) walk up on this thing and the computer goes "rofl rofl rofl you wanted a shiny crystal plate? have a mimc instead!" I give this game 20 more tries if I can't beat it within that then it's going to take me hundreds if not millions to. I'm just being realistic here this game is a lot like roulette you know you can win you know it's possible to win but when you put your chips down the game just ruins you, and sure there's those few select times where you win but those are few and far between, and if 5 good characters and countless horrible ones can't even get to Zot then I honestly don't know how many it's gonna take.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.0 character file.

22890 Titus the Basher (level 12, -8/106 HPs)
             Began as a Mountain Dwarf Fighter on June 19, 2011.
             Was a High Priest of Okawaru.
             Shot with an arrow of flame by a centaur warrior (23 damage)
             ... on Level 14 of the Dungeon.
             The game lasted 01:14:30 (21108 turns).

Titus the Basher (Mountain Dwarf Fighter)                                  Turns: 21108, Time: 01:14:30

HP  -8/106       AC 17     Str 30      Exp: 12/31520 (245), need: 6179
MP   7/7         EV 10     Int  6      God: Okawaru [*****.]
Gold 826         SH 30     Dex 15      Spells:  0 memorised, 11 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : +    s - +0 sling
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : . .  g - +3 ring mail {rPois}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .    c - +0 dwarf shield
Res.Acid. : . . .   Res.Corr.  : .    b - +3 helmet of Grace {god gift, Str+4 Dex+4}
Res.Poison: +       Clarity    : .    (no cloak)
Res.Elec. : .       Spirit.Shd : .    q - +1 pair of gauntlets
Sust.Abil.: . .     Stasis     : .    i - +1 pair of orc boots
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .    (no amulet)
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .    (no ring)
Saprovore : . . .   Ctrl.Flight: .    h - ring of see invisible

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy
A: no striking features
a: Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion


You were on level 14 of the Dungeon.
You worshipped Okawaru.
Okawaru was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and saw 19 of its levels.
You visited 1 portal chamber: bailey.

You collected 806 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 s - a +0,+0 sling (weapon)
 E - a +7,+0 dwarven hand axe of flaming {god gift}
 P - a +3,-3 whip of electrocution
Missiles
 M - 6 +2 sling bullets (quivered)
Armour
 b - the +3 helmet of Grace (worn) {god gift, Str+4 Dex+4}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   
   It affects your strength (+4).
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
 c - a +0 dwarven shield (worn)
 g - a +3 ring mail of poison resistance (worn)
 i - a +1 pair of orcish boots (worn)
 q - a +1 pair of gauntlets (worn)
Magical devices
 n - a wand of disintegration (5)
 r - a wand of random effects (8)
 C - a wand of cold (12)
 H - a wand of paralysis (4)
 X - a wand of lightning (6)
Comestibles
 p - a bread ration
 v - a meat ration
Scrolls
 f - 2 scrolls of remove curse
 k - 2 scrolls of fear
 t - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 w - a scroll of immolation
 y - 2 scrolls of detect curse
 F - a scroll of teleportation
 J - 2 scrolls of amnesia {unknown}
 K - a scroll of blinking
Jewellery
 h - a ring of see invisible (left hand)
Potions
 a - a potion of strong poison {unknown}
 d - 2 potions of porridge
 j - 6 potions of heal wounds
 l - 10 potions of healing
 m - a potion of gain intelligence {unknown}
 o - 3 potions of might
 u - a potion of berserk rage
 x - a potion of resistance
 z - 2 potions of restore abilities
 G - a potion of paralysis {unknown}
 I - a potion of agility {unknown}
 O - a potion of experience {unknown}
Magical staves
 A - a +0 rod of venom (10/10)
   (You found it on level 3 of the Dungeon)
Miscellaneous
 B - a plain deck of war


 You had 245 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 10 Fighting
 - Level 14 Maces & Flails
 + Level 7 Slings
 + Level 9 Armour
 - Level 3 Dodging
 - Level 2 Stealth
 + Level 13 Shields
 - Level 1 Traps & Doors
 + Level 3 Evocations


You had 11 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (14/27)            Temple (1/1) D:6             Orc (0/4) D:8
   Lair (3/8) D:11           Hive (1/2) D:12       
 Swamp: Lair:2-5    Shoals: Lair:3-6     Snake: Lair:3-6     Vault: D:14-19

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin

Shops:
D:14: /

Message History

The centaur warrior shoots an arrow of flame.
The arrow of flame hits you!
One of your 3 scrolls of fear catches fire!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The centaur warrior shoots an arrow of flame.
The arrow of flame hits you!
You die...

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You could see a centaur warrior.

Vanquished Creatures
  2 hydras
  Erica (D:13)
  An orc knight (Port)
  An unseen horror (D:11)
  2 hill giants
  Pikel (D:9)
  Joseph (D:11)
  A cyclops (D:12)
  A weapon mimic (D:13)
  4 spiny frogs
  Psyche (D:9)
  6 ugly things (D:13)
  4 giant toads
  A wyvern (D:12)
  9 yaks
  4 killer bees
  2 hungry ghosts
  10 war dogs (Lair:2)
  2 hippogriffs
  A fire drake (Lair:2)
  2 manticores (D:11)
  4 sky beasts
  6 orc warriors
  7 ogres
  11 ice beasts
  6 gila monsters
  4 crocodiles
  6 water moccasins
  2 giant slugs
  10 giant frogs
  A tarantella (D:4)
  2 agate snails
  2 killer bee zombies
  A big kobold zombie (D:11)
  2 goliath beetles
  A shadow (D:14)
  2 big kobold skeletons
  2 orc priests
  9 imps
  A hound zombie (D:7)
  4 scorpions
  7 iguanas
  14 orc wizards
  7 porcupines
  4 worker ants
  10 hounds
  13 sheep
  A worker ant zombie (D:11)
  Ijyb (D:3)
  6 jellies
  A mummy (D:11)
  22 gnolls
  29 green rats
  6 snakes
  3 giant mites
  2 giant centipedes
  2 snake skeletons
  2 worms
  3 giant eyeballs
  3 oozes
  57 orcs
  6 giant cockroaches
  19 goblins
  11 hobgoblins
  11 jackals
  18 megabats
  5 quokkas
  2 small snakes (D:2)
  8 giant geckos
  14 giant newts
  2 hobgoblin skeletons
  30 kobolds
  A kobold skeleton (D:5)
  An orc skeleton (D:7)
  An orc zombie (D:7)
  23 rats
  3 ballistomycetes (D:9)
  2 fungi
  4 toadstools
494 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A weapon mimic (D:11)
  2 hippogriffs
  A necrophage (D:10)
  A giant goldfish (D:10)
  A big kobold (D:11)
  A giant frog (D:10)
  2 killer bees (D:11)
  An imp (D:7)
  A shadow (D:10)
  A snake skeleton (D:7)
  2 megabats (D:10)
  A quokka (D:7)
  2 kobolds
  2 rats
19 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A small abomination (D:11)
  A slave (D:9)
  A jackal (Lair:1)
  3 giant spores
  A kobold (D:2)
  A rat (D:11)
  5 plants (D:11)
  7 toadstools
20 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 533 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place   | Note
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     0 | D:1      | Titus, the Mountain Dwarf Fighter, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 0/0
   245 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 23/23 MP: 1/1
   938 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 10/30 MP: 1/1
  1136 | D:2      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  1174 | D:2      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  1915 | D:3      | Noticed Ijyb
  1932 | D:3      | Defeated Ijyb
  1932 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 37/37 MP: 2/2
  2405 | D:3      | Identified a +0 rod of venom (10/10) (You found it on level 3 of the Dungeon)
  2506 | D:4      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 41/44 MP: 3/3
  2651 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  2757 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Slings
  2886 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 48/50 MP: 3/3
  2928 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Dodging
  2942 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  3467 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3751 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 53/57 MP: 4/4
  4127 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
  4130 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  4419 | D:6      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
  4422 | D:6      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
  4678 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  4833 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 53/66 MP: 5/5
  5004 | D:6      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  5248 | D:6      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
  5255 | D:6      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
  5258 | D:6      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
  5271 | D:6      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
  5438 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5495 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5555 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Warmaster Okawaru
  5762 | D:7      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  6089 | D:7      | Acquired Okawaru's first power
  6101 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  6108 | D:7      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  6470 | D:7      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  6544 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 55/73 MP: 5/5
  6969 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  7991 | D:8      | Found a flagged portal.
  8095 | bailey   | Entered the bailey
  8476 | bailey   | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  9289 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Slings
 10182 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 76/82 MP: 2/6
 10186 | D:9      | Noticed Psyche
 10194 | D:9      | Defeated Psyche
 10322 | D:9      | Noticed Pikel
 10329 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
 10335 | D:9      | Defeated Pikel
 10408 | D:9      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 10412 | D:9      | Noticed Edmund
 10436 | D:9      | Noticed Titus' ghost (experienced MDFi)
 11322 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 11771 | D:10     | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
 12111 | D:10     | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
 13327 | D:11     | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 13510 | D:11     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 30/91 MP: 5/7
 13625 | D:11     | Noticed Joseph
 13677 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
 13784 | D:11     | Defeated Joseph
 13842 | D:11     | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
 14124 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 14178 | D:11     | Acquired Okawaru's second power
 14240 | D:11     | Noticed an agate snail
 14241 | D:11     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
 14254 | D:11     | Defeated an agate snail
 14384 | D:11     | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
 14712 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 15587 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 17357 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 14 in Maces & Flails
 17587 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 87/101 MP: 7/7
 18111 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 18127 | Lair:1   | Got a steaming helmet {god gift}
 18130 | Lair:1   | Identified the +3 helmet of Grace {god gift} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
 18314 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Hive.
 18376 | Hive:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Hive
 18788 | D:12     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
 18804 | D:12     | Found a frozen archway.
 19452 | D:13     | Noticed Erica
 19462 | D:13     | Defeated Erica
 20771 | D:14     | Found Rejepnaz's Magical Wand Boutique.
 20890 | D:14     | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 21108 | D:14     | Shot with an arrow of flame by a centaur warrior



[KoboldLord]

Did you get nailed by a shaft trap at some point? I can't think of any other reason you'd be clear down on D14 with Orc and Lair both mostly uncleared. I certainly wouldn't want to tangle with centaur warriors any earlier than necessary.

You should have probably mugged some orcs for better equipment at some point in there. Poison resistance is good, but ring mail kind of sucks pretty hard for a non-spellcaster. You get the guaranteed damage reduction and armor class of light armor but without the benefits of being able to cast, dodge, or sneak. Whips and hand axes are just awful, too, and should be replaced on a melee-oriented character as soon as a replacement can be arranged. A good brand is usually not good enough to make up the difference in base power between a starting weapon and a good weapon. Orcs often wander around with decent weapons or plate mail, and they don't usually put up much resistance when you make it yours. Orc 1-3 would almost certainly have had worthwhile upgrades to your weapon and body armor.

That is a very nice rod, though. I guess the centaurs liked it too.

[Shinigami345]

I guess it must be my upbringing or something but I tend to favor resistance over AC I did find some plate mails but then I couldn't poison cloud right on top of myself when mobs spammed me. The reason I didn't do any more lair was because I saw the swamp entrance and was like uhh..no I don't want to deal with vampire mosquitos with this low of AC. I tried Hive but there was just too many bees right by the start (I counted like 30 within that screen). I'm still horrified of Orc after all the bs it gives me. I still can't belive I got absolutely nothing useful from that bailey after almost 2 deaths. I didn't even think it was possible until now. Anyways I'm at YASD 10/20 before one of three things happens 1. I stop playing because of all the bs this game decides to throw at me and maybe start back up in a month or something 2. Get a really promicing character and post a CIP on here so I don't skrew things up. or 3. Beat the game. I must say at the rate things are going I'm leaning towards #1 unless I get a good reason not to it's getting THAT bad like I can tolerate me being a derp (I already know how horrible I am at video games I can live with that) but getting randomly killed and being able to do NOTHING about it bothers me big time. It's like playing I wanna be the guy (before they patched up some of the bugs).

[joellercoaster]

getting randomly killed and being able to do NOTHING about it bothers me big time.

I get killed an awful lot but 9 times out of 10 I can look back and see what I should have done differently. Crawl is very harsh, but also pretty fair

Often when your character is new and weak the game can squish you but I'd say most of my deaths once I'm past XL8 or so are totally my own fault. Sadly, there are still an awful lot of those

Chin up, you're not alone!

[slowcar]

Your character seems allright to me.
but: running after fleeing monsters is not a good idea most of the time. you had a sling, why didn't you use it?
other than this: a centaur warrior is a serious threat to a lvl 12 character. it kind of translates to "flee", or at least force it to melee (+heroism+finesse).
using the blink scroll might have been a good escape option.

finding nothing useful in a bailey is quite common, better not get too enraged about it.

Crawl can be chance-based, true, but in 95% of the cases of death there is a simple reason: you did something wrong.
learn that you cannot defeat all enemies (at least not in the first try), tactical retreat is a valid and necessary option in crawl.
master all the ways to escape an enemy, you'll need them!

[MyOtheHedgeFox]

You do not need to win. You only can win.

A quote from Immortal Defense might come in handy here:
"Aren't you happy that the loss was only virtual?"

[mrbobbyg]

Whips and hand axes are just awful, too, and should be replaced on a melee-oriented character as soon as a replacement can be arranged. A good brand is usually not good enough to make up the difference in base power between a starting weapon and a good weapon.

I would agree with this for any brand but elec (or pain for a character with high necromancy). A whip of elec is a MONSTER if you have a weapon to deal with grounded and resistant dudes.