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Shoals Surfer

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Joined: Saturday, 7th February 2015, 14:46

Post Saturday, 16th January 2016, 09:05

CIP: skilling advice for KoBe

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.18-a0-1098-gc0d3725 (webtiles) character file.

Odds the Spry (Kobold Berserker)                   Turns: 33491, Time: 03:03:04

Health: 146/146    AC: 23    Str: 26    XL:     20   Next: 36%
Magic:  28/28      EV: 48    Int:  5    God:    Trog [******]
Gold:   2877       SH:  6    Dex: 33    Spells: 0 memorised, 19 levels left

rFire  . . .      SeeInvis .    v - +7 lajatang of Doom {slice, Dex+4}
rCold  + . .      Gourm    .    u - +4 ring mail {rC+}
rNeg   . . .      Faith    .    (shield currently unavailable)
rPois  .          Spirit   .    R - +1 helmet of Ru's Brutal Revenge {+Inv Str+3}
rElec  .          Dismiss  .    B - +0 cloak of the Assorted Spirits {Str+4}
rCorr  .          Reflect  +    Q - +2 pair of fencer's gloves {LBl+4 SBl+4 EV+3 Dex+6}
SustAt .          Harm     .    N - +2 pair of boots
MR     ++...                    y - +6 amulet of reflection
Stlth  +.........               T - ring of Shaolin {EV+8}
                                a - ring "Tolico" {MR+ Str+2 Stlth-}

@: very resistant to hostile enchantments, very unstealthy
A: thin skeletal structure 1, carnivore 3, robust 1, weak 1
a: Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion,
Evoke Invisibility
}: 2/15 runes: serpentine, barnacled


You are on level 1 of the Vaults.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are completely stuffed.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 35 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth and Ice Cave.

You have collected 3387 gold pieces.
You have spent 510 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 v - the +7 lajatang of Doom (weapon) {slice, Dex+4}
   (You acquired it on level 5 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
 H - the +9 quarterstaff "Otalat" {crush, rN+}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 15 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   It protects you from negative energy.
 V - a +6 lajatang of venom
 Y - a +1 antimagic lajatang
Armour
 s - a +1 chain mail of poison resistance
 u - a +4 ring mail of cold resistance (worn)
 B - the +0 cloak of the Assorted Spirits (worn) {Str+4}
   (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your strength (+4).
 N - a +2 pair of boots (worn)
 Q - the +2 pair of fencer's gloves (worn) {LBl+4 SBl+4 EV+3 Dex+6}
   (You acquired it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It affects your evasion (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+6).
 R - the +1 helmet of Ru's Brutal Revenge (worn) {+Inv Str+3}
   (You found it in a labyrinth)   
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It lets you turn invisible.
 S - a +2 plate armour of fire resistance
 Z - a +1 chain mail of magic resistance
Jewellery
 a - the ring "Tolico" (left hand) {MR+ Str+2 Stlth-}
   (You took it off a naga on level 4 of the Snake Pit)   
   
   [ring of loudness]
   
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It makes you less stealthy.
 d - the ring of Jyngal {rF+ Int-2 Stlth+}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [ring of intelligence]
   
   It affects your intelligence (-2).
   It protects you from fire.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 e - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion
 y - a +6 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 T - the ring of Shaolin (right hand) {EV+8}
   (You found it in an ice cave)   
   
   [ring of evasion]
   
   It affects your evasion (+8).
Wands
 j - a wand of lightning
 k - a wand of paralysis {recharged}
 w - a wand of lightning
 G - a wand of paralysis
 J - a wand of cold (4/15)
 L - a wand of cold
 O - a wand of enslavement
 P - a wand of draining
 U - a wand of random effects
 X - a wand of digging {zapped: 3}
Scrolls
 b - 3 scrolls of fear
 m - 9 scrolls of teleportation
 n - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon
 p - 6 scrolls of blinking
 q - 12 scrolls of remove curse
 r - 5 scrolls of identify
 x - 4 scrolls of recharging
 A - 7 scrolls of enchant armour
 I - 5 scrolls of fog
 M - 2 scrolls of holy word
Potions
 f - a potion of cure mutation
 i - a potion of resistance
 l - 3 potions of flight
 o - 12 potions of curing
 t - 6 potions of heal wounds
 z - 2 potions of might
 D - 2 potions of cancellation
 E - 3 potions of haste
 F - a potion of invisibility
 W - 3 potions of agility
Comestibles
 c - 14 meat rations
 g - 2 beef jerkies
 C - 2 slices of pizza


   Skills:
 - Level 16.9 Fighting
   Level 6.1(13.2) Maces & Flails
 - Level 16.4(16.7) Staves
 - Level 13.2 Armour
 - Level 18.8 Dodging
 + Level 11.7 Evocations


You have 19 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (0/1) D:6            Lair (8/8) D:11
 Shoals (4/4) Lair:6        Snake (4/4) Lair:3        Slime (0/6) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:11            Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Vaults (1/5) D:13
 Depths (1/5) D:15       

Altars:
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Gozag
Makhleb
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:4 %   D:7 (   D:8 *   D:12 =   D:14 ?   Orc:2 [:[(*


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are small and have problems with some larger weapons.
You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time.
You have a somewhat thin skeletal structure (Dex +2, Stealth).
You are robust (+10% HP).
You are weak. (Str -2)


Message History

You see here a club.
Eating a chunk of flesh. This raw flesh tastes great.
You continue eating. x2
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
You climb downwards.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You see here a whip.
You see here a scroll of random uselessness.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
You climb downwards.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
There is an open door here.
There is a gate to the Vaults here.
You insert the barnacled rune into the lock.
With a loud hiss the gate opens wide!
You go down through the gate. Welcome to the Vaults!
This branch contains the silver rune of Zot.
Found 5 needles of sleeping.
There is a gate leading back out of this place here.
Unknown command.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Rupert (Lair:8)
  Frances (D:12)
  Agnes (Snake:3)
  Kirke (Shoals:1)
  8 greater nagas
  Ilsuiw (Shoals:3)
  Donald (Snake:1)
  Aizul (Snake:1)
  An orc warlord (Orc:1)
  2 stone giants
  Nessos (Orc:2)
  Snorg (Orc:1)
  5 ettins
  4 vault guards (D:13)
  A fire dragon (D:15)
  A minotaur (Lab)
  6 merfolk javelineers
  6 merfolk impalers
  Josephine (Orc:1)
  An ice dragon (IceCv)
  11 hydras
  An alligator snapping turtle (Shoals:4)
  A death knight (D:12)
  9 anacondas
  11 naga warriors
  4 centaur warriors
  2 merfolk aquamancers
  A merfolk avatar (Shoals:3)
  5 death yaks
  6 satyrs
  Erica (D:8)
  15 naga sharpshooters
  5 shock serpents
  A wizard (D:15)
  Nergalle (Lair:4)
  A skeletal warrior (D:12)
  2 salamander mystics
  2 unseen horrors (D:13)
  6 naga ritualists
  9 sea snakes
  A giant orange brain (D:15)
  9 hill giants
  A phantasmal warrior (D:12)
  19 ugly things
  14 mana vipers
  3 orc knights
  24 harpies
  10 griffons
  2 orc sorcerers
  A wolf spider (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  15 fauns
  A salamander (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  2 water nymphs
  12 cyclopes
  12 salamanders
  6 manticores
  2 guardian serpents (shapeshifter)
  A black mamba (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  38 black mambas
  2 ice statues (IceCv)
  A guardian serpent (Snake:2)
  The ghost of medicinemagazines the Cleaver, a novice MiFi of the Shining One (D:6)
  10 sirens
  4 elephants (Lair:7)
  13 naga magi
  3 centaur skeletons
  21 spiny frogs
  A gargoyle (D:14)
  2 torpor snails
  A kobold demonologist (D:14)
  3 komodo dragons
  2 fire drakes
  A polar bear (Lair:4)
  A wind drake (Shoals:2)
  2 freezing wraiths
  A giant leech (Lair:8)
  The ghost of medicinemagazines the Poker, an amateur MfBe of Trog (D:4)
  14 trolls
  28 merfolk
  A wind drake (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  3 two-headed ogres
  31 blink frogs
  7 snapping turtles
  7 slime creatures
  5 water elementals
  42 yaks
  A spriggan (D:7)
  5 hogs (Shoals:1)
  5 wraiths (Orc:1)
  2 wyverns
  6 hungry ghosts
  9 basilisks
  Grum (Lair:1)
  12 hippogriffs
  10 wolves (Lair:1)
  2 steam dragons
  2 wargs
  A mottled dragon (D:14)
  11 vampire mosquitoes
  3 insubstantial wisps (Lair:4)
  49 nagas
  12 water moccasins
  A soldier ant (D:13)
  A swamp drake (Lair:4)
  11 porcupines
  3 sky beasts
  20 ice beasts
  23 orc warriors
  An eye of draining (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  4 black bears
  An eye of draining (D:13)
  10 ogres
  28 centaurs
  13 crocodiles
  2 big kobolds (D:11)
  44 giant frogs
  3 gnoll sergeants
  3 scorpions
  15 killer bees
  The ghost of Bombur the Chopper, a weakling MiBe of Trog (D:3)
  12 wights
  2 electric eels
  8 crimson imps
  2 giant frog zombies
  A quasit (D:8)
  8 hounds
  14 orc priests
  6 centaur zombies
  A giant frog skeleton (D:10)
  6 jellies
  23 orc wizards
  8 iguanas
  10 worker ants
  Natasha (D:3)
  5 hell rats (Lair:5)
  A killer bee zombie (D:10)
  11 sheep
  2 hound skeletons
  A worker ant zombie (D:10)
  11 adders
  6 gnolls
  43 river rats
  3 shadow imps
  3 oozes
  2 adder zombies
  2 adder skeletons
  5 giant geckos
  101 orcs
  10 bats
  7 giant cockroaches
  4 hobgoblins
  12 quokkas
  4 ball pythons
  5 giant newts
  8 goblins
  A jackal skeleton (D:4)
  12 kobolds
  11 rats
  3 plants
1210 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Roxanne (Shoals:1)
  An ice dragon (IceCv)
  A naga warrior (Snake:4)
  2 shock serpents (Snake:2)
  2 naga sharpshooters (Snake:4)
  A naga ritualist (Snake:4)
  A guardian serpent (Snake:4)
  A naga mage (Snake:4)
  2 black mambas
  3 nagas (Snake:4)
  An orc warrior (D:11)
  A gnoll sergeant (D:11)
  A gnoll (D:11)
  An orc (D:11)
19 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  Vashnia (Snake:4)
  A black mamba (Snake:2)
  A naga (Snake:2)
  6 fungi
  9 plants
18 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1247 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | Odds the Kobold Berserker began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 1/1
   140 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 16/19 MP: 2/2
   596 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/23 MP: 3/3
   821 | D:1      | Reached ** piety under Trog
  1302 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 26/29 MP: 4/4
  2206 | D:2      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  2209 | D:2      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  2583 | D:3      | Noticed Bombur's ghost (weakling MiBe)
  2597 | D:3      | Killed Bombur's ghost
  2597 | D:3      | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting
  2597 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 22/33 MP: 5/5
  3067 | D:3      | Noticed Natasha
  3076 | D:3      | Killed Natasha
  3167 | D:3      | Reached *** piety under Trog
  3471 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You are robust (+10% HP). [potion of mutation]
  3471 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You are agile. (Dex +2) [potion of mutation]
  3471 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [potion of mutation]
  3501 | D:4      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  3544 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 39/41 MP: 6/6
  3583 | D:4      | Noticed medicinemagazines's ghost (amateur MfBe)
  3653 | D:4      | Killed medicinemagazines's ghost
  3653 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  3653 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 46/48 MP: 7/7
  4638 | D:4      | Found Meungue's Food Shoppe.
  4672 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4722 | D:5      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  4829 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  4835 | D:5      | HP: 2/48 [centaur/arrow of flame (4)]
  5138 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  5221 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  5221 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 40/53 MP: 8/8
  5545 | D:5      | Identified a scroll of acquirement
  5546 | D:5      | Got a faintly glowing lajatang
  5547 | D:5      | Identified the +7 lajatang of Doom {slice, Dex+4} (You acquired it on level 5 of the Dungeon)
  5613 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5701 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Staves
  5761 | D:6      | Noticed medicinemagazines's ghost (novice MiFi)
  6229 | D:6      | Killed medicinemagazines's ghost
  6229 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 60/60 MP: 9/9
  6343 | D:6      | Reached **** piety under Trog
  6833 | D:7      | Reached skill level 7 in Dodging
  6862 | D:7      | Found Futiff's Weapon Emporium.
  6942 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Staves
  7161 | D:7      | Got a brightly glowing cloak
  7167 | D:7      | Identified the cursed +0 cloak of the Assorted Spirits {Str+4} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
  7183 | D:7      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  7183 | D:7      | Noticed a balrug
  7186 | D:7      | Noticed a hellwing
  7186 | D:7      | Noticed a smoke demon
  7271 | D:8      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  7328 | D:8      | Found Uczukledwuo's Assorted Antiques.
  7333 | D:8      | Bought a scroll labeled YGERROXUSI for 19 gold pieces
  7333 | D:8      | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 57 gold pieces
  7346 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  7492 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 66/69 MP: 10/10
  7552 | D:8      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  7669 | D:8      | Noticed Erica
  7677 | D:8      | Killed Erica
  7677 | D:8      | Reached ***** piety under Trog
  7677 | D:8      | Reached skill level 8 in Dodging
  8373 | D:9      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  8575 | D:9      | Received a gift from Trog
  8628 | D:9      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  8756 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  8883 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 64/75 MP: 11/11
  9007 | D:10     | Reached skill level 9 in Dodging
  9604 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 10478 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 10524 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 10923 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 10923 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 72/83 MP: 12/12
 11150 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Trog
 11316 | Lair:1   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 11323 | Lair:1   | Killed a ten-headed hydra
 11414 | Lair:1   | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
 11435 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 11537 | Lair:1   | Noticed Grum
 11544 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Staves
 11555 | Lair:1   | Killed Grum
 11876 | Lair:2   | Got a bound bone ring
 11902 | Lair:2   | Identified the ring of Istroecess {MP+9 Int+3} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts)
 12338 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 11 in Dodging
 12563 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Trog
 13045 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 91/91 MP: 13/13
 13433 | Lair:3   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 13445 | Lair:3   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 13729 | Lair:4   | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 13739 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 13784 | Lab      | Noticed a minotaur
 13791 | Lab      | Killed a minotaur
 13794 | Lab      | Got a brightly glowing helmet
 13818 | Lab      | Identified the +1 helmet of Ru's Brutal Revenge {+Inv Str+3} (You found it in a labyrinth)
 14165 | Lair:4   | Got a wavering lead ring
 14166 | Lair:4   | Identified the cursed ring of Jyngal {rF+ Int-2 Stlth+} (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)
 14415 | Lair:4   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 14423 | Lair:4   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 14668 | Lair:4   | Noticed Nergalle
 14677 | Lair:4   | Killed Nergalle
 14970 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 12 in Dodging
 14999 | Lair:5   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 15008 | Lair:5   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 15008 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Trog
 15133 | Lair:6   | Found a frozen archway.
 15133 | Lair:6   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 15159 | Lair:6   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 15236 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 15387 | IceCv    | Noticed an ice dragon
 15394 | IceCv    | Noticed an ice dragon
 15397 | IceCv    | Killed an ice dragon
 15397 | IceCv    | Reached XP level 14. HP: 100/100 MP: 14/14
 15773 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 15908 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 16158 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Trog
 16591 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 13 in Staves
 16631 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 17156 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 17276 | Lair:8   | Reached ****** piety under Trog
 17276 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 17315 | Lair:8   | Reached XP level 15. HP: 104/106 MP: 15/15
 17318 | Lair:8   | Noticed Rupert
 17332 | Lair:8   | Killed Rupert
 17796 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 18091 | Orc:1    | Noticed Snorg
 18095 | Orc:1    | Noticed Josephine
 18101 | Orc:1    | Killed Josephine
 18106 | Orc:1    | Killed Snorg
 18373 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 18373 | Orc:2    | Found Vegaizae's General Store.
 18383 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 18676 | Orc:1    | Killed an orc warlord
 18778 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 14 in Staves
 18881 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 19119 | Orc:2    | Found Quefacusm's Antique Weapon Emporium.
 19163 | Orc:1    | Paralysed by an orc sorcerer for 6 turns
 19276 | Orc:2    | Found Sunedgh's Book Shoppe.
 19296 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 19352 | Orc:2    | Found Fathra's Antique Armour Shop.
 19354 | Orc:2    | Noticed a stone giant
 19366 | Orc:2    | Killed a stone giant
 19374 | Orc:2    | Bought a pair of runed boots for 112 gold pieces
 19435 | Orc:2    | Noticed Nessos
 19448 | Orc:2    | Killed Nessos
 19697 | Orc:2    | Found Tudwap Helo's Antique Armour Emporium.
 20130 | D:11     | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
 20351 | D:8      | Bought a scroll of recharging for 180 gold pieces
 20351 | D:8      | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 142 gold pieces
 20499 | D:12     | Noticed Frances
 20503 | D:12     | Lost mutation: You are agile. (Dex +2) [a neqoxec]
 20516 | D:12     | Killed Frances
 20516 | D:12     | Reached XP level 16. HP: 115/115 MP: 16/16
 20517 | D:12     | Found Fyufecye's Jewellery Shop.
 21186 | D:13     | Received a gift from Trog
 21438 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 21861 | D:14     | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
 22340 | D:14     | Found Ytraw's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 22581 | D:14     | You fall through a shaft!
 22581 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 22777 | D:15     | Received a gift from Trog
 22780 | D:15     | Got a brightly glowing quarterstaff {god gift}
 22781 | D:15     | Identified the +9 quarterstaff "Otalat" {crush, rN+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 15 of the Dungeon)
 22928 | D:15     | Reached XP level 17. HP: 123/123 MP: 17/17
 22941 | D:15     | Reached skill level 15 in Staves
 23366 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 23507 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths
 24343 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 24361 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 24383 | Snake:1  | Noticed Aizul
 24398 | Snake:1  | Killed Aizul
 24398 | Snake:1  | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 24560 | Snake:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 24996 | Snake:1  | Noticed Donald
 25007 | Snake:1  | Killed Donald
 25035 | Snake:1  | Reached skill level 16 in Dodging
 26195 | Snake:2  | Received a gift from Trog
 26690 | Snake:2  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 132/132 MP: 18/18
 27268 | Snake:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 27269 | Snake:3  | Got a twisted quarterstaff {god gift}
 27270 | Snake:3  | Identified the +8 quarterstaff of the Three Orbs {crush, Int+3} (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Snake Pit)
 27482 | Snake:3  | Reached skill level 17 in Dodging
 27846 | Snake:3  | Gained mutation: You have a somewhat thin skeletal structure (Dex +2, Stealth). [potion of beneficial mutation]
 27939 | Snake:3  | Noticed Agnes
 27950 | Snake:3  | Killed Agnes
 28109 | Snake:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Snake Pit
 28298 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 29104 | Snake:4  | Noticed Vashnia
 29117 | Snake:4  | Killed Vashnia
 29117 | Snake:4  | Reached skill level 18 in Dodging
 29117 | Snake:4  | Reached XP level 19. HP: 112/139 MP: 19/19
 29228 | Snake:4  | Got a pitted lead ring
 29231 | Snake:4  | Identified the ring "Tolico" {MR+ Str+2 Stlth-} (You took it off a naga on level 4 of the Snake Pit)
 29281 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 29418 | Snake:4  | Got a serpentine rune of Zot
 29672 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 29796 | Shoals:1 | Noticed Roxanne
 29808 | Shoals:1 | Killed Roxanne
 30072 | Shoals:1 | Noticed Kirke
 30091 | Shoals:1 | Killed Kirke
 30458 | Shoals:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 30948 | Shoals:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 31231 | Shoals:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 31311 | Shoals:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Shoals
 31897 | Shoals:4 | Noticed Ilsuiw
 32164 | Shoals:3 | Killed Ilsuiw
 32207 | Shoals:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 32360 | Shoals:4 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 146/146 MP: 26/26
 32741 | Shoals:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
 32850 | Shoals:4 | Got a heavily runed silver ring
 32852 | Shoals:4 | Identified the ring "Gahioci" {Ice Int+3} (You took it off a siren on level 4 of the Shoals)
 33041 | Shoals:4 | Got a barnacled rune of Zot
 33490 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Mace              |    62 |   157 |    31 |       |       |       |       ||   250
       Whip              |    82 |    51 |       |       |       |       |       ||   133
       Flail             |       |       |    58 |       |       |       |       ||    58
       Morningstar       |       |       |    28 |       |       |       |       ||    28
       Lajatang          |       |       |   125 |   524 |   950 |  1273 |   733 ||  3605
       Quarterstaff      |       |       |       |    74 |   121 |    27 |       ||   222
Invok: Berserk           |     2 |     5 |     3 |     6 |    14 |    11 |     3 ||    44
       Trog's Hand       |       |       |     1 |       |     2 |     8 |     4 ||    15
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |       |     2 |     1 |     4 |     1 ||     8
       Burn Spellbooks   |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |     2 ||     4
  Use: Scroll            |     5 |     9 |     9 |     7 |     9 |     7 |     5 ||    51
       Potion            |       |     1 |       |     3 |     3 |     1 |     1 ||     9
 Stab: Invisible         |       |       |       |     5 |       |       |       ||     5
       Distracted        |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     8 |    15 |    17 |    36 |    38 |    32 |    24 ||   170
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |       |       |     3 |     1 ||     4
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2


Started as a KoBe with Maces and Flails, but an early Acquired lajatang was irresistible. I'm not sure I've ever used Staves before (on a melee dude). A couple of questions:

1) I've hit min delay. After that, and how would you prioritise Staves compared to Fighting/Dodging/Armour?
2) Lajatangs are both high damage and low delay, so my usual "which brand is best" logic doesn't know what to do. Cold? Electricity? Something else?
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Post Saturday, 16th January 2016, 10:02

Re: CIP: skilling advice for KoBe

1) After min-delay, don't train anymore unless you don't have anything else to train. Of course, you can get a couple of levels for draining insurance if you really want to.
2) Antimagic is best against spellcasters, vampiric for anything it works on, holy wrath for anything vulnerable, then electriticy/freezing/draining/flaming for anything non-resistant. And if course, you can always have a slicing one to swap for when nothing else fits :)

But basically, rebrand that lajatang of venom when you get the chance. Meanwhile use your EW srolls on the antimagic one. The lajatang of Doom is a decent default weapon.
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Post Saturday, 16th January 2016, 10:38

Re: CIP: skilling advice for KoBe

Cheers. I've turned off staves. I'm also training up a bit of crossbows, for a ranged option.

First brand weapon attempt on the venom produced slicing. Oh well.
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Post Saturday, 16th January 2016, 11:33

Re: CIP: skilling advice for KoBe

Keep in mind that raising weapon skill after min delay still increase damage, only with much lower returns.
Especially for a weapon like lajatang hitting min delay at low skill and with a Be is still worth to raise it up 18+ish, just after other core skills like fighting and dodging, which I'd raise up 20 first, and maybe support like Evo
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Post Saturday, 16th January 2016, 16:32

Re: CIP: skilling advice for KoBe

Sprucery wrote:2) Antimagic is best against spellcasters, vampiric for anything it works on, holy wrath for anything vulnerable, then electriticy/freezing/draining/flaming for anything non-resistant. And if course, you can always have a slicing one to swap for when nothing else fits :)

Don't forget speed. Like daggers, speed even occurs naturally on Lajatangs.

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Post Saturday, 16th January 2016, 17:27

Re: CIP: skilling advice for KoBe

Thanks everyone! I won in the end, with 5 runes. Never did find a particularly good brand (other than antimagic), until I converted to TSO and blessed that lajatang of venom. However, my first step into Pan almost killed me (mostly due to a Brimstone Fiend who played unusually well - almost perfect at starting with a bit of Torment, then blasting me with Hellfire), so I just ascended.
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