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Halls Hopper

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Joined: Friday, 8th January 2016, 15:50

Post Monday, 11th January 2016, 19:53

CIP : MiBe : Not sure what do to next

Here is my current character dump. I have never been this far in Crawl, so this is all kinda new...

Basically I have finished Lair & Orc, Dungeon until 15.

What is now available is
Elf, Snake Pit, Shoals, Slime

Given I have not found great resistance item, I am not sure what to do next. Mayble Elf 1 & 2 to find some rPois ?

(Currently I have only found a staff of Poison that has rPois, I am not sure this is a good idea to abandon my shield for a poor weapon with rPois for Snake)

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17.1-2-g5865329 (webtiles) character file.

seren the Warrior (Minotaur Berserker)             Turns: 39692, Time: 06:02:15

Health: 152/152    AC: 27    Str: 26    XL:     16   Next: 12%
Magic:  5/5        EV: 16    Int:  4    God:    Trog [*****.]
Gold:   2564       SH: 15    Dex: 16    Spells: 0 memorised, 15 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis .     a - +5 demon whip (antimagic)
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     g - +0 plate armour
rNeg   . . .     SustAt   .     k - +0 shield
rPois  .         Gourm    .     (helmet restricted)
rElec  .         Spirit   .     v - +0 cloak
rCorr  .         Warding  .     b - +1 pair of gloves {Str+3}
rMut   +         Stasis   .     x - +0 pair of boots
MR     ++...                    j - amulet of resist mutation
Stlth  ..........               E - ring of protection from magic
                                i - +4 ring of protection

@: very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2
a: Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion


You are on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Trog.
Trog is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and seen 30 of its levels.

You have collected 3349 gold pieces.
You have spent 785 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +5 antimagic demon whip (weapon)
 y - a +5 antimagic flail
 J - a +0 blowgun
Missiles
 c - 47 poisoned needles
 n - 79 tomahawks (quivered)
Armour
 b - a +1 pair of gloves of strength (worn)
 g - a +0 plate armour (worn)
 k - a +0 shield (worn)
 v - a +0 cloak (worn)
 x - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
Jewellery
 i - a +4 ring of protection (left hand)
 j - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
 E - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
 F - an uncursed ring of teleportation
 O - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
Wands
 m - a wand of teleportation (5)
 q - a wand of fireball
 H - a wand of invisibility
Scrolls
 d - 5 scrolls of identify
 f - 3 scrolls of enchant armour
 o - 4 scrolls of blinking
 r - 6 scrolls of teleportation
 s - 3 scrolls of magic mapping
 u - 6 scrolls of remove curse
 I - 3 scrolls of fog
 L - a scroll of immolation
 P - a scroll labeled JUVIMY WEFYMN
 X - 3 scrolls of recharging
Potions
 e - 4 potions of curing
 p - 2 potions of ambrosia
 t - 4 potions of might
 z - 2 potions of agility
 A - 2 potions of resistance
 B - 2 potions of cure mutation
 D - 2 potions of invisibility
 K - 3 potions of cancellation
 M - a murky yellow potion
 V - 4 potions of heal wounds
Miscellaneous
 G - a box of beasts
Comestibles
 l - 11 meat rations
 w - 13 bread rations
 C - 39 fruits
 Q - 2 royal jellies


   Skills:
 + Level 16.5 Fighting
 - Level 14.1 Maces & Flails
 + Level 16.3 Armour
 + Level 13.7 Dodging
 - Level 15.0 Shields


You have 15 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7            Lair (8/8) D:8
 Shoals (0/4) Lair:5        Snake (1/4) Lair:5        Slime (1/6) Lair:7
    Orc (4/4) D:9             Elf (0/3) Orc:3        Vaults (0/5) D:13
 Depths (0/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:10 (*%}[   D:15 :   Orc:4 =(*[

Annotations:
D:2 Natasha
D:4 Blork the orc
D:10 needle
Lair:1 exclusion: oklob plant


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee.
You have a pair of horns on your head.


Message History

n - 79 tomahawks (gained 1)
All of the chunks of flesh in your inventory have rotted away.
You are feeling hungry.
Eat which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You can't eat that!
Eat which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You continue eating. x2
You finish eating. That royal jelly was delicious!
There is a stone staircase leading up, spattered with blood here.
You now have 2564 gold pieces (gained 11).
You see here a leather armour.
Done exploring.
Saving game... please wait.
Welcome back, seren the Minotaur Berserker.
Trog says: Kill them all!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Char dumped successfully.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Saving game... please wait.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Frances (D:12)
  Nessos (Orc:3)
  An ettin (D:15)
  Snorg (Lair:5)
  A vault guard (D:13)
  Josephine (Orc:1)
  An ice dragon (D:14)
  The ghost of SaintRoka the Fighter, a journeyman NaWn of Okawaru (D:10)
  14 hydras
  Harold (Orc:3)
  Erolcha (D:9)
  4 centaur warriors (D:15)
  A death yak (Lair:8)
  2 tengu warriors (D:13)
  4 orc high priests
  A fire crab (Lair:8)
  A hell knight (D:15)
  A fire crab (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  3 skeletal warriors (D:13)
  2 unseen horrors
  12 hill giants
  3 orc knights
  The ghost of bollicks1999 the Skirmisher, a novice DrBe of Trog (D:6)
  A wolf spider zombie (D:14)
  6 orc sorcerers
  4 cyclopes
  17 ugly things
  2 griffons
  2 manticores
  2 elephants (Lair:5)
  Maurice (D:9)
  5 black mambas
  A gargoyle (D:14)
  9 centaur skeletons
  9 fire drakes
  An efreet (D:13)
  24 spiny frogs
  10 komodo dragons
  A kobold demonologist (D:14)
  A fire drake (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  A deep elf priest (D:15)
  A two-headed ogre (Orc:4)
  A queen bee (Lair:2)
  4 trolls
  24 blink frogs
  2 giant leeches (Lair:8)
  A tengu conjurer (D:15)
  A polar bear (Lair:8)
  A harpy skeleton (D:14)
  2 trapdoor spider zombies
  4 slime creatures (D:14)
  A hornet zombie (D:14)
  37 yaks
  9 basilisks
  A spriggan (Lair:8)
  6 hogs (D:13)
  7 wyverns
  6 wraiths
  A snapping turtle (Lair:5)
  18 hippogriffs
  4 vampire mosquitoes (Lair:8)
  Grum (D:8)
  2 deep elf magi
  A naga (Lair:5)
  4 hungry ghosts
  3 wolves (D:7)
  5 wargs
  A deep elf fighter (D:15)
  22 water moccasins
  A soldier ant (D:13)
  3 wasps
  2 hell hounds (Lair:5)
  7 ice beasts
  26 orc warriors
  A phantom (D:11)
  2 black bears
  11 porcupines
  2 boggarts (D:14)
  17 centaurs
  6 sky beasts
  An eye of draining (D:7)
  A necrophage (D:9)
  7 ogres
  13 crocodiles
  44 giant frogs
  A big kobold (D:13)
  A gnoll sergeant (D:8)
  A scorpion (D:6)
  33 killer bees
  3 electric eels (Lair:8)
  9 wights
  10 crimson imps
  4 centaur zombies
  5 giant frog skeletons
  5 hounds
  7 jellies
  34 orc priests
  9 worker ants
  Jessica (D:2)
  7 iguanas
  26 sheep
  31 orc wizards
  A hound zombie (D:10)
  11 gnolls
  62 river rats
  5 shadow imps
  10 adders
  A giant eyeball (D:13)
  5 oozes (D:8)
  7 giant geckos
  175 orcs
  2 ball pythons
  6 giant cockroaches
  6 goblins
  4 hobgoblins (D:1)
  11 jackals
  10 kobolds
  A quokka (D:3)
  4 bats
  2 giant cockroach zombies (D:6)
  A giant gecko skeleton (D:6)
  4 giant newts
  6 rats
  A bush (Lair:1)
  6 fungi
  2 plants (Lair:1)
1000 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Kirke (D:13)
  An orc warlord (Orc:4)
  An orc knight (Orc:4)
  3 elephants (Lair:5)
  A troll (Orc:4)
  3 yaks (Lair:3)
  A wyvern (Lair:5)
  A basilisk (Lair:5)
  4 orc warriors (Orc:4)
  3 boggarts (D:14)
  4 orc priests
  3 orc wizards
  A worker ant (D:14)
  17 orcs
44 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An orc wizard (D:11)
  10 fungi
  13 plants
24 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1068 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | seren the Minotaur Berserker began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/0
   239 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Maces & Flails
   447 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 26/26 MP: 1/1
   962 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  1076 | D:2      | Reached ** piety under Trog
  1076 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 2/2
  1335 | D:2      | Noticed Natasha
  1820 | D:2      | Noticed Jessica
  1842 | D:2      | Killed Jessica
  1842 | D:2      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  1842 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 39/39 MP: 3/3
  2116 | D:3      | Found a faded altar to an unknown god.
  2520 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  2535 | D:4      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  2630 | D:5      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 45/45 MP: 4/4
  2681 | D:4      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  2835 | D:4      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  2923 | D:4      | Noticed Blork the orc
  3004 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  3386 | D:5      | Noticed an ice beast
  3677 | D:5      | Killed an ice beast
  3677 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  3677 | D:5      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 51/51 MP: 5/5
  3938 | D:5      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  4211 | D:5      | Reached *** piety under Trog
  4423 | D:5      | Noticed a centaur
  4431 | D:5      | Killed a centaur
  4431 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 44/57 MP: 6/6
  4555 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  4573 | D:6      | Noticed bollicks1999's ghost (novice DrBe)
  4626 | D:6      | Noticed an ogre
  4641 | D:6      | Killed an ogre
  4779 | D:6      | Noticed an orc warrior
  4917 | D:6      | Killed bollicks1999's ghost
  4917 | D:6      | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
  4917 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 64/64 MP: 7/7
  5467 | D:5      | Killed an orc warrior
  5694 | D:6      | Noticed a centaur
  5718 | D:6      | Killed a centaur
  5718 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  6276 | D:6      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  6524 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 74/74 MP: 8/8
  6706 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  6756 | D:7      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  6760 | D:7      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  6762 | D:7      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  6762 | D:7      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  6764 | D:7      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  6765 | D:7      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  6960 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  6977 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  7089 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  7148 | D:7      | Reached **** piety under Trog
  7619 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
  8089 | D:8      | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
  8265 | D:8      | Noticed Grum
  8458 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 83/83 MP: 9/9
  8475 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  8505 | D:8      | Killed Grum
  8505 | D:8      | Reached skill level 14 in Maces & Flails
  8967 | D:8      | Noticed a hill giant
  9024 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  9255 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  9262 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
  9385 | D:9      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  9579 | D:9      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  9579 | D:9      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  9655 | D:9      | Noticed Maurice
  9689 | D:9      | Killed Maurice
  9746 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  9889 | D:9      | Noticed Erolcha
  9963 | D:9      | Killed Erolcha
 10624 | D:10     | Found Saenuanku's Food Boutique.
 10739 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 10745 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 10832 | D:10     | Found Zaunyzub's Weapon Boutique.
 10952 | D:10     | Found Cagicik's Gadget Boutique.
 10973 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 10981 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 11057 | D:10     | Found Kiothrama's Armour Shop.
 11249 | D:10     | Found Ytta's General Store.
 11417 | D:10     | Noticed SaintRoka's ghost (journeyman NaWn)
 11447 | D:10     | Killed SaintRoka's ghost
 11447 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 64/99 MP: 10/10
 11509 | D:11     | Noticed a hill giant
 11520 | D:11     | Killed a hill giant
 11520 | D:11     | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 11945 | D:11     | Noticed a red ugly thing
 11957 | D:11     | Noticed a purple ugly thing
 11957 | D:11     | Killed a red ugly thing
 11957 | D:11     | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 11977 | D:11     | Killed a purple ugly thing
 13272 | D:13     | Noticed Frances
 13308 | D:12     | Killed Frances
 13580 | D:12     | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 13740 | D:10     | Bought a +0 blowgun for 27 gold pieces
 13819 | D:10     | Bought a wand of teleportation (6) for 330 gold pieces
 14101 | Lair:1   | Noticed a black mamba
 14110 | Lair:1   | Killed a black mamba
 14252 | Lair:1   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 14277 | Lair:1   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 14277 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 112/112 MP: 11/11
 14765 | Lair:1   | Noticed an oklob plant
 14827 | Lair:1   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 14846 | Lair:1   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 15328 | Lair:1   | Reached ***** piety under Trog
 16613 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 17712 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Trog
 17959 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 119/119 MP: 12/12
 20101 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 20701 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Trog
 21162 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 21355 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 21730 | Lair:6   | Noticed Snorg
 21786 | Lair:5   | Killed Snorg
 21786 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 22754 | Lair:6   | Got an opalescent robe
 22765 | Lair:6   | Identified the +1 robe of the Realm of Zot {rC+ Slay-3 Stlth+} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 22926 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 22953 | Lair:7   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 22962 | Slime:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Pits of Slime
 22962 | Slime:1  | Noticed an acid blob
 23248 | Lair:7   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 95/129 MP: 13/13
 25253 | D:8      | Killed a hill giant
 25372 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 25561 | Orc:2    | Noticed Josephine
 25815 | Orc:1    | Killed Josephine
 26578 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 26741 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 26977 | Orc:3    | Noticed Nessos
 27030 | Orc:3    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 27084 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 27321 | Orc:3    | Noticed Harold
 27358 | Orc:3    | Killed Harold
 27642 | Orc:3    | Killed Nessos
 28639 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 28679 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 29133 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 15 in Shields
 30017 | Orc:4    | Noticed an orc warlord
 30114 | Orc:4    | Killed an orc warlord
 30334 | Orc:4    | Found Igalat's Antique Armour Shop.
 30337 | Orc:4    | Found Uthudul's Antique Weapon Shop.
 30340 | Orc:4    | Found Onoo's General Store.
 30340 | Orc:4    | Found Jascheh's Jewellery Boutique.
 30377 | Orc:4    | Bought a pair of runed gloves for 148 gold pieces
 30377 | Orc:4    | Bought a pair of glowing gloves for 148 gold pieces
 30811 | Orc:4    | Upgraded the game from 0.17.1-1-g73c8601 to 0.17.1-2-g5865329
 30823 | Orc:4    | Bought a shiny scale mail for 132 gold pieces
 31149 | D:13     | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 31181 | D:12     | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 31318 | D:13     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
 31326 | D:13     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
 31331 | D:13     | Reached ****** piety under Trog
 31405 | D:13     | Received a gift from Trog
 31486 | D:13     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 131/139 MP: 11/14
 31522 | D:13     | Noticed Kirke
 31530 | D:13     | Killed Kirke
 31597 | D:13     | Noticed a tengu warrior
 31618 | D:13     | Killed a tengu warrior
 31901 | D:13     | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 31915 | D:13     | Killed a five-headed hydra
 32072 | D:13     | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 32107 | D:13     | Noticed a hill giant
 32118 | D:13     | Killed a hill giant
 32203 | D:13     | Killed an unseen horror
 32214 | D:13     | Noticed a skeletal warrior
 32216 | D:13     | Noticed a skeletal warrior
 32216 | D:13     | Noticed a skeletal warrior
 32229 | D:13     | Killed a skeletal warrior
 32255 | D:13     | Killed a skeletal warrior
 32255 | D:13     | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 32265 | D:13     | Killed a skeletal warrior
 32714 | D:13     | Noticed a hill giant
 32722 | D:13     | Killed a hill giant
 32807 | D:13     | Noticed a vault guard
 32819 | D:13     | Killed a vault guard
 32829 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 32889 | D:13     | Noticed a hill giant
 32897 | D:13     | Killed a hill giant
 33094 | D:14     | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
 33750 | D:14     | Received a gift from Trog
 34367 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 36355 | D:15     | Reached skill level 16 in Fighting
 36359 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 36590 | D:15     | Received a gift from Trog
 36764 | D:15     | Found Nuacefac's Book Emporium.
 37900 | Lair:8   | Reached XP level 16. HP: 152/152 MP: 5/15


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Mace              |    68 |    79 |       |       |       |       ||   147
       Flail             |       |    37 |   254 |   194 |       |       ||   485
       Whip              |       |       |       |   877 |  1826 |       ||  2703
       Demon whip        |       |       |       |       |   420 |   165 ||   585
Throw: Tomahawk          |       |     2 |     5 |    12 |     6 |     3 ||    28
Invok: Berserk           |     2 |     8 |    14 |    16 |    12 |       ||    52
       Trog's Hand       |     1 |     1 |     3 |     7 |    10 |       ||    22
       Burn Spellbooks   |       |     1 |       |     2 |     2 |     1 ||     6
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |       |     1 |    12 |       ||    13
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |     2 |     1 |       ||     3
  Use: Potion            |       |     5 |     4 |     9 |     4 |       ||    22
       Scroll            |       |     3 |     2 |    13 |    12 |       ||    30
 Stab: Distracted        |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     2 |     5 |    17 |    28 |    48 |     3 ||   103
       Pizza             |     1 |     1 |       |     4 |       |     1 ||     7
       Bread ration      |     1 |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     2
       Fruit             |       |     2 |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     4
       Meat ration       |       |     1 |     1 |       |       |       ||     2
       Beef jerky        |       |       |     1 |     3 |     1 |       ||     5
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     6 |    15 |     1 ||    22



I am also thinking of putting a few points in throwing to have some range damage that I am severely lacking now.

Thanks in advance
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Post Monday, 11th January 2016, 19:59

Re: CIP : MiBe : Not sure what do to next

Using a staff of poison on a MiBe for rPois is a terrible idea even though it is 1h. Check out any glowing bucklers. if any have rPois they are probably worth using. Use those scrolls of enchant armour. Snake is doable without rPois is you are careful. Personally I like throwing and wouldn't hesitate to train throwing up to 22-27 and just use the demon whip for backup.
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Post Monday, 11th January 2016, 20:22

Re: CIP : MiBe : Not sure what do to next

If you want poison resistance you should probably ctrl-f search for any glowing chain, scale and ring mail. I'm betting you'll find one. +0 plate isn't very good for doing the Snake or the Shoals. Well, not that doing it with +0 ring mail of poison resistance is very good either...

Also you lack elemental resistances there. Both Snake and Shoals have variety of different elemental attacks. With Trog's Hand you could actually do the Elf:1-2 first. Activate it if you're dealing with Sorcerers or Demonologists. Not saying its gonna be cakewalk since the Elf is often very draining-heavy and you don't have rN item in your inventory. It really is hard to say what you should do next!

Training throwing certainly isn't a bad idea with Trog.

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Post Monday, 11th January 2016, 20:31

Re: CIP : MiBe : Not sure what do to next

Trog's Hand can somewhat balance out lack of rPois, since the Regen effect helps offset poison damage. If you get really badly poisoned, well, you've still got some Curing potions. Your main technique, though, is to just kill everything before it can do much damage to you. If you're reasonably careful, you can generally pull one small group at a time, Berserk if it's remotely dangerous, then shake off the blood and repeat. They can't poison what they don't get a chance to hit. Do try to avoid charging across open space at them while they spit at you, though; hide around a corner and let them come to you.

The main danger in the post-Lair branches (Snake included) is that you can run into some really dangerous uniques. Running into Nikola or Mara can quickly ruin your day. If you meet something you haven't seen before, check 'x v' and perhaps the wiki.

And, yes, Throwing is awesome. Trog will even gift you ammo periodically. Evocations is also a good ranged option (for better wands and misc evokables, like lamps of fire), though Mi don't have a great aptitude for it. Here are the final skills from my 3-rune MiBe (the wasted axes skill is because I found an early bardiche and decided to switch to polearms):

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Skills:
 + Level 25.1 Fighting
   Level 11.8(20.1) Axes
 - Level 25.4(26.0) Polearms
 + Level 19.4 Throwing
 + Level 25.3 Armour
 + Level 23.2 Dodging
 - Level 4.6 Evocations


I used javelins throughout the game, including extensive use in Zot to kill nasty things like Orbs of Fire and Archliches. You will also likely come across javelins of penetration (Trog may gift you some and, if not, you'll almost certainly find some in Shoals), which basically turns throwing into a penetrating beam attack; really nice for taking out scary magic users hiding in the back or just cutting through a pack more efficiently.

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Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Hand axe          |   101 |   117 |   271 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||   489
       Bardiche          |       |       |   120 |   587 |  1262 |  1416 |  1495 |  1522 |   853 ||  7255
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |       |       |     6 |     5 |       |       |       |       ||    11
       Hand crossbow     |       |       |       |       |     4 |       |       |       |       ||     4
Throw: Javelin           |       |       |       |    49 |    49 |   122 |    39 |   186 |   262 ||   707
       Throwing net      |       |       |       |     1 |     2 |     3 |       |       |     3 ||     9
Invok: Berserk           |       |     2 |     9 |    10 |    12 |    15 |    13 |    12 |     8 ||    81
       Burn Spellbooks   |       |     1 |       |     1 |     7 |     3 |     1 |     2 |       ||    15
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |     1 |     2 |     5 |     3 |     6 |     8 |     3 ||    28
       Trog's Hand       |       |       |       |     1 |     6 |     6 |     5 |     4 |     2 ||    24
 Abil: Evoke Flight      |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |     9 |       |     2 |       |     5 |     3 ||    19
       Stone of tremors  |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Lamp of fire      |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2
       Sack of spiders   |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Box of beasts     |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |       |       |    19 |    12 |    15 |     9 |     5 |     7 |     9 ||    76
       Potion            |       |       |       |     2 |     1 |     2 |     3 |     7 |    14 ||    29
 Stab: Distracted        |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |     2 |       ||     4
       Held in net/web   |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Invisible         |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |     8 |    18 |    33 |    56 |    32 |    36 |    28 |     1 ||   215
       Fruit             |       |       |     1 |     3 |       |       |       |     2 |     1 ||     7
       Pizza             |       |       |     1 |     3 |     2 |     1 |       |     2 |       ||     9
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     3 |     1 |     8 |     1 |       |       ||    13
       Bread ration      |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |     8 |     5 ||    15
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |     1 ||     3
       Meat ration       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     4 ||     4

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Post Tuesday, 12th January 2016, 10:01

Re: CIP : MiBe : Not sure what do to next

I finished Elven Hall 1 & 2. Almost died 2 times to a blade master and demonologist who summoned very nasty demons.

Still not found any rPois, but found a shop with plenty of rFire items.

I am going to head to snake pit anyway now, I think I have a regen amulet laying somewhere, I hope it will help a bit with the poison.

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