CIP: TrMo of Kiku: How to troll?

Saturday, 26th December 2015, 16:53 by Jarlyk

I'm having trouble figuring out how to play trolls properly. The very early dungeon is pretty easy, but now that I'm in Lair, the poor AC/EV is starting to be a problem. I've burned a lot of consumables (got double-shafted all the way down to D:13 before getting to Lair.) I figured Kiku would be an interesting fit, though I haven't figured out how to use him yet either. Is Receive Corpses | Animate Dead meant to be the main panic button?

I'm feeling a bit scattered in my skilling, as I want to get Necromancy up, but I also took a quick diversion into Translocations for Blink. Getting skill points even for basic magic is painful as a troll, though.

I did find a blowgun, which should at least help me through the poison-vulnerable stuff in Lair. I'm worried about spiny frogs and hydras, though (used a bunch of wand charges on the first hydra.) Never found any large rocks; was hoping those would help with the nasty stuff I don't want to claw to death. I hear trolls are supposed to be easy, so clearly I'm missing something.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.18-a0-912-g81d1dc4 (webtiles) character file. Jarlyk2 the Grappler (Troll Monk) Turns: 10813, Time: 00:47:17 Health: 81/97 AC: 6 Str: 21 XL: 11 Next: 31% Magic: 12/12 EV: 11 Int: 6 God: Kikubaaqudgha [*****.] Gold: 977 SH: 0 Dex: 15 Spells: 3 memorised, 2 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + - Unarmed rCold + . . Gourm + z - +1 robe of Zoso {rC+} rNeg . . . Faith + (no shield) rPois + Spirit . (helmet restricted) rElec . Dismiss . (no cloak) rCorr . Reflect . (gloves unavailable) SustAt . Harm . (boots unavailable) MR ..... t - amulet of faith Stlth ++........ p - ring of see invisible c - ring of poison resistance @: very slightly contaminated, hasted, very quick, not resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy A: unfitting armour, claws 3, fast metabolism 3, gourmand, regeneration 2, shaggy fur 1, tough skin 2 a: Receive Corpses, Torment, Renounce Religion You are on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Kikubaaqudgha. Kikubaaqudgha is extremely pleased with you. You are full. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 16 of its levels. You have also visited: Sewer, Ossuary and Ice Cave. You have collected 977 gold pieces. Inventory: Hand Weapons b - a blowgun K - a club Missiles a - 16 tomahawks s - 142 poisoned needles V - 4 javelins (quivered) Armour z - the +1 robe of Zoso (worn) {rC+} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) It protects you from cold. Jewellery c - a ring of poison resistance (left claw) e - a runed ivory amulet h - a square zirconium amulet p - a ring of see invisible (right claw) t - an amulet of faith (around neck) Wands k - a wand of magic darts {zapped: 4} x - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 12} y - a wand of slowing {zapped: 3} A - a wand of fire (0/15) E - a wand of draining F - a wand of cold (0/15) M - a wand of flame {zapped: 3} Q - a wand of lightning Scrolls d - 5 scrolls of recharging m - 6 scrolls of teleportation n - 5 scrolls of remove curse o - a scroll of enchant weapon u - a scroll of amnesia C - a scroll of magic mapping N - 4 scrolls of enchant armour S - 2 scrolls of identify U - a scroll of blinking W - a scroll of fog Potions f - 3 potions of cancellation g - 5 potions of curing j - a potion of agility l - 2 potions of brilliance q - a potion of magic r - a potion of resistance v - 4 potions of heal wounds D - a potion of ambrosia H - a potion of might Books i - a book of Battle Spells Type Level a - Infusion Charms 1 b - Shroud of Golubria Charms/Translocation 2 c - Song of Sleighing Charms 2 d - Spectral Weapon Hexes/Charms 3 e - Regeneration Charms/Necromancy 3 J - Kikubaaqudgha's Catalogue of Unholy Arts (Kikubaaqudgha gifted it to you in the Ecumenical Temple) Spells Type Level a - Pain Necromancy 1 b - Corpse Rot Necromancy 2 c - Sublimation of Blood Necromancy 2 d - Regeneration Charms/Necromancy 3 e - Control Undead Necromancy 4 L - Kikubaaqudgha's Grimoire of Sinister Magic (Kikubaaqudgha gifted it to you on level 10 of the Dungeon) Spells Type Level a - Excruciating Wounds Charms/Necromancy 5 b - Bolt of Draining Conjuration/Necromancy 5 c - Cigotuvi's Embrace Necromancy 5 d - Dispel Undead Necromancy 5 e - Death Channel Necromancy 6 P - a book of Spatial Translocations Spells Type Level a - Apportation Translocation 1 b - Blink Translocation 2 c - Shroud of Golubria Charms/Translocation 2 d - Portal Projectile Translocation 3 e - Teleport Other Translocation 3 f - Passage of Golubria Translocation 4 R - a book of Necromancy Spells Type Level a - Pain Necromancy 1 b - Animate Skeleton Necromancy 1 c - Vampiric Draining Necromancy 3 d - Regeneration Charms/Necromancy 3 e - Animate Dead Necromancy 4 f - Control Undead Necromancy 4 X - an Akashic Record Spells Type Level a - Dispersal Translocation 6 b - Malign Gateway Summoning/Translocation 7 c - Disjunction Translocation 8 d - Controlled Blink Translocation 8 Comestibles w - 6 meat rations B - 9 beef jerkies G - 15 fruits O - a slice of pizza T - 11 bread rations Skills: + Level 3.0 Fighting - Level 4.1 Throwing + Level 3.1 Dodging - Level 1.1 Stealth - Level 13.7 Unarmed Combat - Level 1.0 Spellcasting + Level 6.4 Necromancy - Level 3.0 Translocations - Level 2.7 Evocations You have 2 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Animate Dead Necr N/A 34% 4 #####.. b - Blink Tloc N/A 21% 2 ###.... c - Control Undead Necr #......... 34% 4 #####.. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (13/15) Temple (1/1) D:7 Lair (2/8) D:11 Orc (0/2) D:10 Vaults: D:13-14 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Pakellas Qazlal Ru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Annotations: D:3 Sigmund D:8 exclusions: door and ice statue D:9 xodahs's ghost, novice DrAE Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are too large for most types of armour. You have claws for hands. Your metabolism is lightning-fast. You like to eat raw meat. You heal very quickly. You are covered in fur (AC +1). You have very tough skin (AC +2). Message History Press: ? - help, Dir - move target cursor, p - ice statue As you read the scroll of blinking, it crumbles to dust. Really walk into a travel-excluded area? [Y]es or [N]o only, please. Really walk into a travel-excluded area? Okay, then. You claw the ice beast! The ice beast is moderately wounded. You claw the ice beast! The ice beast is severely wounded. You mangle the ice beast!! You kill the ice beast! There is an ice choked empty arch of ancient stone here. There is an ice covered gate leading back out of this place here. Welcome back to the Lair of Beasts! There is a collapsed entrance here. Save game and exit? Welcome back, Jarlyk2 the Troll Monk. Kikubaaqudgha says: Spread unending torment and darkness! Press ? for a list of commands and other information. .........................,,,,,,,, .....#..#................,,,,,,,, .....###.................,,,,,,,, ......###.......>........,,,,,,,, .......#.............##***,*,,,,, #P....###..#.P........# ***,,,,, ......#*#.####..#.....# *,,,,,, ##...###..# #..#.#...##** *,,,,,, *,,,**#..* #.#.@.#..#,,****,,,,, **,,,,*.#,**#..#.#......,,,,,,,,, *,,,,,*,*,*#.#..#........,*,,,,,, *,,,,,,,,,......,........,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,*..,P.#.,P#.#.>..*,,,,,,, ,,,*,,,,,.,.....,........,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,...,..,..,....,*,,,,,*, *,,,,,,,,,.P,...,.#.,..,,**,,,*,, ,,,,,,,,*,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures A centaur warrior (D:13) Erica (D:8) A hydra (Lair:1) A spiny frog (Lair:1) A fire drake (D:11) The ghost of StarButterfly the Sneak, a novice OpEE of Dithmenos (D:3) A troll (D:10) The ghost of CipHuK the Firebug, an amateur DEFE (D:4) 2 hippogriffs 5 wolves (Lair:1) A warg (Lair:1) A sky beast (D:11) 2 orc warriors (D:10) A wasp (D:11) 8 ice beasts 3 ogres 7 centaurs 9 big kobolds A crocodile (Lair:1) A gnoll sergeant (D:5) 7 giant frogs 3 scorpions 4 wights (D:9) 4 killer bees (D:9) 3 giant frog zombies A human zombie (Ossuary) 2 jellies 3 centaur zombies 4 crimson imps 2 giant frog skeletons 6 orc wizards 5 iguanas 6 orc priests 6 hounds A centaur skeleton (D:4) Ijyb (D:2) 5 worker ants A killer bee zombie (D:8) A big kobold zombie (Ossuary) 6 sheep (Lair:1) 3 hound zombies 2 hound skeletons 5 mummies 16 adders 11 river rats 2 worker ant zombies 5 gnolls (D:5) 2 shadow imps 3 oozes 5 worms An adder skeleton (D:7) 3 giant geckos 37 orcs 5 bats 2 gnoll zombies (Ossuary) 11 hobgoblins 2 jackals (D:2) 3 ball pythons 4 giant cockroaches A giant gecko skeleton (D:4) 5 giant newts A goblin (D:3) A goblin zombie (D:7) 2 hobgoblin zombies A jackal skeleton (D:4) 11 kobolds 2 orc zombies (Ossuary) 11 rats 277 creatures vanquished. Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Jarlyk2 the Troll Monk began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 22/22 MP: 0/0 372 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 27/29 MP: 1/1 872 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat 872 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 32/36 MP: 2/2 1087 | D:2 | Noticed Ijyb 1101 | D:2 | Killed Ijyb 1101 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 44/44 MP: 3/3 1118 | D:2 | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat 1365 | D:3 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 1371 | D:3 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 1479 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 46/50 MP: 4/4 1543 | D:3 | Reached skill level 7 in Unarmed Combat 1836 | D:3 | Noticed StarButterfly's ghost (novice OpEE) 1849 | D:3 | Killed StarButterfly's ghost 1849 | D:3 | Reached skill level 8 in Unarmed Combat 1849 | D:3 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 49/59 MP: 5/5 2131 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 2228 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 59/66 MP: 6/6 2350 | D:4 | Noticed CipHuK's ghost (amateur DEFE) 2360 | D:4 | Killed CipHuK's ghost 2360 | D:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Unarmed Combat 2581 | D:4 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 2905 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3017 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 3106 | D:5 | Got an ancient robe 3117 | D:5 | Identified the +1 robe of Zoso {rC+} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 3187 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 31/74 MP: 6/8 3344 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat 4024 | D:6 | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal. 4074 | D:6 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 4116 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing 4134 | D:6 | Found a glowing drain. 4155 | Sewer | Entered a sewer 4621 | Sewer | Reached skill level 11 in Unarmed Combat 4621 | Sewer | Reached XP level 9. HP: 80/80 MP: 10/10 4957 | D:6 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 5429 | D:7 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 5437 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 5446 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 5531 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha 5531 | Temple | Reached * piety under Kikubaaqudgha 5531 | Temple | Received a gift from Kikubaaqudgha 5531 | Temple | Reached ** piety under Kikubaaqudgha 5532 | Temple | Identified Kikubaaqudgha's Catalogue of Unholy Arts (Kikubaaqudgha gifted it to you in the Ecumenical Temple) 5539 | Temple | Learned a level 4 spell: Control Undead 5584 | D:7 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 5589 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary 5692 | Ossuary | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy 6544 | D:8 | Noticed Erica 6555 | D:8 | Killed Erica 6555 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Unarmed Combat 6817 | D:8 | Noticed an ice statue 7043 | D:8 | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas. 7043 | D:8 | Noticed a wolf spider 7049 | D:8 | You fall through a shaft for 2 floors! 7049 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 7134 | D:9 | Noticed xodahs's ghost (novice DrAE) 7589 | D:9 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 40/88 MP: 11/11 7592 | D:9 | HP: 3/88 [killer bee (3)] 7768 | D:9 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 8187 | D:10 | Reached *** piety under Kikubaaqudgha 8187 | D:10 | Received a gift from Kikubaaqudgha 8275 | D:10 | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy 8635 | D:10 | Identified Kikubaaqudgha's Grimoire of Sinister Magic (Kikubaaqudgha gifted it to you on level 10 of the Dungeon) 8643 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 8682 | D:10 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 8822 | D:10 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations 9034 | D:11 | Reached skill level 13 in Unarmed Combat 9311 | D:11 | You fall through a shaft for 2 floors! 9415 | D:13 | Noticed a centaur warrior 9420 | D:13 | HP: 3/88 [centaur warrior (10)] 9433 | D:13 | Killed a centaur warrior 9560 | D:12 | Noticed a deep elf mage 9566 | D:12 | Noticed a hill giant 9582 | D:11 | Reached **** piety under Kikubaaqudgha 9696 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 9704 | D:11 | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting 9715 | D:11 | Learned a level 4 spell: Animate Dead 9719 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 9750 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 71/94 MP: 12/12 9860 | Lair:1 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 9865 | Lair:1 | Killed a four-headed hydra 10659 | Lair:2 | Found a frozen archway. 10673 | IceCv | Entered an ice cave 10689 | IceCv | Reached ***** piety under Kikubaaqudgha Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 74 | 90 | 350 | 301 || 815 Throw: Throwing net | | | | 3 || 3 Javelin | | | | 5 || 5 Cast: Animate Dead | | | | 1 || 1 Evoke: Wand | | | | 15 || 15 Use: Scroll | | | 24 | 6 || 30 Potion | | | | 10 || 10 Stab: Sleeping | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 || 7 Distracted | | | 1 | || 1 Paralysed | | | | 3 || 3 Held in net/web | | | | 2 || 2 Eat: Chunk | 15 | 11 | 35 | 34 || 95 Pizza | | | 2 | || 2 Royal jelly | | | 2 | || 2 Fruit | | | | 1 || 1

Saturday, 26th December 2015, 20:10 by Airwolf

Memorize Animate Skeleton and use it on every corpse you kill.

Yes, Receive Corpses and Animate Dead is a great panic button.

Corpse Rot is a good way to debuff nasty monsters.

Cig's Embrace might be a good buff until you get good armor.

Death Channel is great. Troll intelligence and aptitudes might be prohibitive, though.

All those Necro spells are great, but spend most of your XP on Fighting and UC, and then Dodging and Throwing or Evocations.

Throwing and wands are the way to kill hydras.

Saturday, 26th December 2015, 20:48 by archaeo

Hopefully this game works out for you, but I don't know that I'd recommend Kiku for Trolls in the future. It's not impossible by any means, but Trolls are dumb and don't have great spellcasting apts, and since you won't be using weapons, pain branding is pointless and you'll probably never cast anything in the Necronomicon.

Airwolf is spot on with his advice for this character, but for the next guy, I'd recommend going Oka or Trog. I also really enjoyed TrWz and TrWr of Chei, but that requires accepting being slow.

Saturday, 26th December 2015, 22:31 by Jarlyk

I actually didn't realize Kiku had given me Animate Skeleton; must've been in the second book and I didn't notice it. I do love that spell. Easy enough even for a troll to cast and really useful.

Of course, then this happened...

Code:: You fall through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses. 5 yaks, 3 death yaks and a hippogriff come into view. The death yak bellows! x2 The yak bellows! x3 The death yak bellows!

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I'm thinking pop Tele and hope they don't kill me as I walk away, but using Tele on an unexplored L:8 may just make things worse.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.18-a0-917-g8a3da5b (webtiles) character file. Jarlyk2 the Brawler (Troll Monk) Turns: 16551, Time: 01:25:45 Health: 133/133 AC: 9 Str: 22 XL: 13 Next: 19% Magic: 14/14 EV: 11 Int: 6 God: Kikubaaqudgha [*****.] Gold: 1302 SH: 0 Dex: 16 Spells: 4 memorised, 3 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + - Unarmed rCold + . . Gourm + z - +1 robe of Zoso {rC+} rNeg . . . Faith . (no shield) rPois + Spirit + (helmet restricted) rElec . Dismiss . t - +2 cloak rCorr . Reflect . (gloves unavailable) SustAt . Harm . (boots unavailable) MR ..... e - amulet of guardian spirit Stlth ++........ p - ring of see invisible c - ring of poison resistance @: drained, not resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy A: unfitting armour, claws 3, fast metabolism 3, gourmand, regeneration 2, shaggy fur 1, tough skin 2 a: Receive Corpses, Torment, Renounce Religion You are on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Kikubaaqudgha. Kikubaaqudgha is extremely pleased with you. You are completely stuffed. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 22 of its levels. You have also visited: Sewer, Ossuary and Ice Cave. You have collected 1302 gold pieces. Inventory: Hand Weapons b - a blowgun K - a club Missiles a - 21 tomahawks s - 157 poisoned needles V - 7 javelins (quivered) Armour t - a +2 cloak (worn) z - the +1 robe of Zoso (worn) {rC+} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) It protects you from cold. Jewellery c - a ring of poison resistance (left claw) e - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck) p - a ring of see invisible (right claw) I - an uncursed ring of protection from cold Wands y - a wand of slowing {zapped: 3} A - a wand of fire (0/15) E - a wand of draining (0/15) F - a wand of cold (0/15) Q - a wand of lightning {zapped: 3} Scrolls d - 6 scrolls of recharging m - 7 scrolls of teleportation n - 4 scrolls of remove curse o - 3 scrolls of enchant weapon u - a scroll of amnesia C - a scroll of magic mapping N - 4 scrolls of enchant armour S - 5 scrolls of identify W - a scroll of fog Potions f - 3 potions of cancellation g - 5 potions of curing h - a potion of might j - 2 potions of agility l - 2 potions of brilliance q - 2 potions of magic r - a potion of resistance v - 4 potions of heal wounds D - a potion of ambrosia O - a blue potion Y - a potion of flight Books i - a book of Battle Spells Type Level a - Infusion Charms 1 b - Shroud of Golubria Charms/Translocation 2 c - Song of Sleighing Charms 2 d - Spectral Weapon Hexes/Charms 3 e - Regeneration Charms/Necromancy 3 k - a Necronomicon Spells Type Level a - Haunt Necromancy/Summoning 7 b - Borgnjor's Revivification Necromancy 8 c - Death's Door Charms/Necromancy 8 d - Necromutation Transmutation/Necromancy 8 H - a book of Cantrips Spells Type Level a - Corona Hexes 1 b - Animate Skeleton Necromancy 1 c - Summon Small Mammal Summoning 1 d - Apportation Translocation 1 J - Kikubaaqudgha's Catalogue of Unholy Arts (Kikubaaqudgha gifted it to you in the Ecumenical Temple) Spells Type Level a - Pain Necromancy 1 b - Corpse Rot Necromancy 2 c - Sublimation of Blood Necromancy 2 d - Regeneration Charms/Necromancy 3 e - Control Undead Necromancy 4 L - Kikubaaqudgha's Grimoire of Sinister Magic (Kikubaaqudgha gifted it to you on level 10 of the Dungeon) Spells Type Level a - Excruciating Wounds Charms/Necromancy 5 b - Bolt of Draining Conjuration/Necromancy 5 c - Cigotuvi's Embrace Necromancy 5 d - Dispel Undead Necromancy 5 e - Death Channel Necromancy 6 P - a book of Spatial Translocations Spells Type Level a - Apportation Translocation 1 b - Blink Translocation 2 c - Shroud of Golubria Charms/Translocation 2 d - Portal Projectile Translocation 3 e - Teleport Other Translocation 3 f - Passage of Golubria Translocation 4 R - a book of Necromancy Spells Type Level a - Pain Necromancy 1 b - Animate Skeleton Necromancy 1 c - Vampiric Draining Necromancy 3 d - Regeneration Charms/Necromancy 3 e - Animate Dead Necromancy 4 f - Control Undead Necromancy 4 X - an Akashic Record Spells Type Level a - Dispersal Translocation 6 b - Malign Gateway Summoning/Translocation 7 c - Disjunction Translocation 8 d - Controlled Blink Translocation 8 Comestibles w - 10 meat rations x - a royal jelly B - 9 beef jerkies G - 23 fruits M - 2 chunks of flesh T - 14 bread rations U - 2 slices of pizza Skills: - Level 9.8(9.5) Fighting - Level 4.1(3.9) Throwing + Level 3.4(3.2) Dodging - Level 1.1(0.9) Stealth + Level 15.2(15.0) Unarmed Combat - Level 1.0(0.8) Spellcasting - Level 7.7(7.4) Necromancy - Level 3.0(2.8) Translocations - Level 2.7(2.5) Evocations You have 3 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Animate Skeleton Necr N/A 1% 1 ##..... b - Blink Tloc N/A 21% 2 ###.... c - Control Undead Necr #......... 24% 4 #####.. d - Animate Dead Necr N/A 24% 4 #####.. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (13/15) Temple (1/1) D:7 Lair (7/8) D:11 Shoals (0/4) Lair:4 Spider (0/4) Lair:3 Orc (0/2) D:10 Slime: Lair:6-8 Vaults: D:13-14 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Pakellas Qazlal Ru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Annotations: D:3 Sigmund D:8 exclusions: door and ice statue D:9 xodahs's ghost, novice DrAE Lair:4 exclusion: door Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are too large for most types of armour. You have claws for hands. Your metabolism is lightning-fast. You like to eat raw meat. You heal very quickly. You are covered in fur (AC +1). You have very tough skin (AC +2). Message History M - 3 chunks of flesh (gained 1) You're wearing all the rings you can. Remove which one? (? for menu, Esc to cancel) < or c - a ring of poison resistance; > or p - a ring of see invisible You remove your ring of see invisible. Oops, that ring feels deathly cold. Z - a cursed ring of loudness (right claw) As you read the scroll of remove curse, it crumbles to dust. You feel as if something is helping you. You remove your ring of loudness. Some of the chunks of flesh in your inventory have rotted away. You drop an uncursed ring of loudness. p - a ring of see invisible (right claw) You fall through a shaft! The shaft crumbles and collapses. 5 yaks, 3 death yaks and a hippogriff come into view. The death yak bellows! x2 The yak bellows! x3 The death yak bellows! Found 18 gold pieces. ## ##.### ###Y...####### #.PP.Y..#..P.. ##PP.H.Y...P... #..PPYY......$. #PPP..@.Y..... #PPP.Y...Y.... #..P........... .....P......... ....P.##....... ..#.## ....... # ## ......# ....... You can see 3 death yaks, 5 yaks and a hippogriff. Vanquished Creatures A centaur warrior (D:13) Erica (D:8) 2 hydras A queen ant (Lair:3) A griffon (Lair:3) 4 elephants (Lair:7) 3 black mambas 9 spiny frogs 2 fire drakes The ghost of StarButterfly the Sneak, a novice OpEE of Dithmenos (D:3) A troll (D:10) 3 komodo dragons 3 blink frogs (Lair:3) A trapdoor spider (Lair:3) The ghost of CipHuK the Firebug, an amateur DEFE (D:4) A wyvern (Lair:7) A redback (Lair:3) 14 yaks 8 hippogriffs 2 basilisks 12 soldier ants (Lair:3) 10 wolves A warg (Lair:1) 6 water moccasins A sky beast (D:11) 8 porcupines 2 orc warriors (D:10) A wasp (D:11) 8 ice beasts 2 necrophages (Lair:4) 3 ogres 7 centaurs 9 big kobolds 8 crocodiles A gnoll sergeant (D:5) 12 giant frogs 3 scorpions 4 wights (D:9) 4 killer bees (D:9) 3 giant frog zombies A human zombie (Ossuary) 2 jellies 3 centaur zombies 4 crimson imps 2 giant frog skeletons 6 orc wizards 7 iguanas 6 orc priests 6 hounds A centaur skeleton (D:4) Ijyb (D:2) 11 worker ants 4 hell rats (Lair:7) A killer bee zombie (D:8) A big kobold zombie (Ossuary) 6 sheep (Lair:1) 3 hound zombies 2 hound skeletons 5 mummies 16 adders 92 river rats 2 worker ant zombies 5 gnolls (D:5) 2 shadow imps 3 oozes 5 worms An adder skeleton (D:7) 3 giant geckos 37 orcs 5 bats 2 gnoll zombies (Ossuary) 11 hobgoblins 2 jackals (D:2) 3 ball pythons 4 giant cockroaches A giant gecko skeleton (D:4) 5 giant newts A goblin (D:3) A goblin zombie (D:7) 2 hobgoblin zombies A jackal skeleton (D:4) 11 kobolds 2 orc zombies (Ossuary) 21 rats A fungus (Lair:3) 476 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) Josephine (Lair:4) A hydra (Lair:6) Nergalle (Lair:4) A griffon (Lair:6) 2 elephants (Lair:7) A komodo dragon (Lair:6) 2 spiny frogs A boulder beetle (Lair:6) 3 wraiths (Lair:4) A wolf (Lair:2) A yak (Lair:4) A basilisk (Lair:3) 8 soldier ants (Lair:3) 3 water moccasins A porcupine (Lair:3) 3 necrophages (Lair:4) A crocodile (Lair:6) A giant frog (Lair:5) An electric eel (Lair:4) 11 worker ants (Lair:3) 16 river rats A rat (Lair:7) 5 fungi A plant (Lair:3) 68 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) 4 fungi A plant (Lair:3) 5 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 549 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Jarlyk2 the Troll Monk began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 22/22 MP: 0/0 372 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 27/29 MP: 1/1 872 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat 872 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 32/36 MP: 2/2 1087 | D:2 | Noticed Ijyb 1101 | D:2 | Killed Ijyb 1101 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 44/44 MP: 3/3 1118 | D:2 | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat 1365 | D:3 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 1371 | D:3 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 1479 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 46/50 MP: 4/4 1543 | D:3 | Reached skill level 7 in Unarmed Combat 1836 | D:3 | Noticed StarButterfly's ghost (novice OpEE) 1849 | D:3 | Killed StarButterfly's ghost 1849 | D:3 | Reached skill level 8 in Unarmed Combat 1849 | D:3 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 49/59 MP: 5/5 2131 | D:3 | Noticed Sigmund 2228 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 59/66 MP: 6/6 2350 | D:4 | Noticed CipHuK's ghost (amateur DEFE) 2360 | D:4 | Killed CipHuK's ghost 2360 | D:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Unarmed Combat 2581 | D:4 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 2905 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 3017 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 3106 | D:5 | Got an ancient robe 3117 | D:5 | Identified the +1 robe of Zoso {rC+} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 3187 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 31/74 MP: 6/8 3344 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat 4024 | D:6 | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal. 4074 | D:6 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 4116 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing 4134 | D:6 | Found a glowing drain. 4155 | Sewer | Entered a sewer 4621 | Sewer | Reached skill level 11 in Unarmed Combat 4621 | Sewer | Reached XP level 9. HP: 80/80 MP: 10/10 4957 | D:6 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 5429 | D:7 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 5437 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 5446 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 5531 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha 5531 | Temple | Reached * piety under Kikubaaqudgha 5531 | Temple | Received a gift from Kikubaaqudgha 5531 | Temple | Reached ** piety under Kikubaaqudgha 5532 | Temple | Identified Kikubaaqudgha's Catalogue of Unholy Arts (Kikubaaqudgha gifted it to you in the Ecumenical Temple) 5539 | Temple | Learned a level 4 spell: Control Undead 5584 | D:7 | Found a sand-covered staircase. 5589 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary 5692 | Ossuary | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy 6544 | D:8 | Noticed Erica 6555 | D:8 | Killed Erica 6555 | D:8 | Reached skill level 12 in Unarmed Combat 6817 | D:8 | Noticed an ice statue 7043 | D:8 | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas. 7043 | D:8 | Noticed a wolf spider 7049 | D:8 | You fall through a shaft for 2 floors! 7049 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 7134 | D:9 | Noticed xodahs's ghost (novice DrAE) 7589 | D:9 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 40/88 MP: 11/11 7592 | D:9 | HP: 3/88 [killer bee (3)] 7768 | D:9 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas. 8187 | D:10 | Reached *** piety under Kikubaaqudgha 8187 | D:10 | Received a gift from Kikubaaqudgha 8275 | D:10 | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy 8635 | D:10 | Identified Kikubaaqudgha's Grimoire of Sinister Magic (Kikubaaqudgha gifted it to you on level 10 of the Dungeon) 8643 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 8682 | D:10 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 8822 | D:10 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations 9034 | D:11 | Reached skill level 13 in Unarmed Combat 9311 | D:11 | You fall through a shaft for 2 floors! 9415 | D:13 | Noticed a centaur warrior 9420 | D:13 | HP: 3/88 [centaur warrior (10)] 9433 | D:13 | Killed a centaur warrior 9560 | D:12 | Noticed a deep elf mage 9566 | D:12 | Noticed a hill giant 9582 | D:11 | Reached **** piety under Kikubaaqudgha 9696 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 9704 | D:11 | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting 9715 | D:11 | Learned a level 4 spell: Animate Dead 9719 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 9750 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 71/94 MP: 12/12 9860 | Lair:1 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 9865 | Lair:1 | Killed a four-headed hydra 10659 | Lair:2 | Found a frozen archway. 10673 | IceCv | Entered an ice cave 10689 | IceCv | Reached ***** piety under Kikubaaqudgha 10813 | Lair:2 | Upgraded the game from 0.18-a0-912-g81d1dc4 to 0.18-a0-917-g8a3da5b 10815 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 1 spell: Animate Skeleton 11518 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Unarmed Combat 12065 | Lair:3 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 12068 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 12256 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 29/113 MP: 13/13 12283 | Lair:3 | Reached ****** piety under Kikubaaqudgha 12416 | Lair:3 | Received a gift from Kikubaaqudgha 13304 | Lair:4 | Noticed Nergalle 13314 | Lair:4 | Killed Nergalle 13372 | Lair:4 | Noticed Josephine 13382 | Lair:4 | Killed Josephine 14319 | Lair:4 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 15099 | Lair:6 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 15111 | Lair:6 | Killed a four-headed hydra 15325 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 15 in Unarmed Combat 15586 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 110/131 MP: 10/14 16550 | Lair:7 | You fall through a shaft! 16550 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 74 | 90 | 350 | 753 | 103 || 1370 Throw: Throwing net | | | | 3 | || 3 Javelin | | | | 52 | 3 || 55 Tomahawk | | | | 27 | 2 || 29 Cast: Animate Skeleton | | | | 45 | 7 || 52 Animate Dead | | | | 16 | 5 || 21 Control Undead | | | | 4 | || 4 Invok: Receive Necronomi | | | | 1 | || 1 Evoke: Wand | | | | 17 | || 17 Use: Scroll | | | 24 | 12 | 2 || 38 Potion | | | | 14 | || 14 Stab: Sleeping | 1 | 2 | 2 | 5 | 1 || 11 Distracted | | | 1 | 6 | || 7 Paralysed | | | | 3 | || 3 Held in net/web | | | | 2 | || 2 Eat: Chunk | 15 | 11 | 35 | 87 | 11 || 159 Pizza | | | 2 | 1 | || 3 Royal jelly | | | 2 | | || 2 Fruit | | | | 1 | || 1

Saturday, 26th December 2015, 22:36 by WingedEspeon

I think pop tele and walk away is your best bet.

Saturday, 26th December 2015, 22:43 by Jarlyk

Just out of curiosity, does low Int somehow reduce the chance of spotting traps? This guy has been shafted so many times, it's getting a bit silly. The double-shafting to D:13 just outside the Lair entrance was particularly fun, landing in LOS of a centaur warrior.

Oh and the Tele did work, thankfully. Landed me next to a single black mamba and some up stairs.

Saturday, 26th December 2015, 22:50 by majesstic

Jarlyk wrote:Just out of curiosity, does low Int somehow reduce the chance of spotting traps? This guy has been shafted so many times, it's getting a bit silly. The double-shafting to D:13 just outside the Lair entrance was particularly fun, landing in LOS of a centaur warrior.

Oh and the Tele did work, thankfully. Landed me next to a single black mamba and some up stairs.

As far as I know, it's just XL-based now. (Ash also helps, but that's it.) I've noticed, anecdotally, on my own Tr and Og playthroughs that I seem to fall through shafts more often but it's probably unrelated to species or int.

Sunday, 27th December 2015, 00:29 by Sprucery

majesstic wrote:As far as I know, it's just XL-based now. (Ash also helps, but that's it.) I've noticed, anecdotally, on my own Tr and Og playthroughs that I seem to fall through shafts more often but it's probably unrelated to species or int.

It's not unrelated to species: species with bad exp apt (such as troll with -1) will experience shafting more often that faster-levelling species.

Sunday, 27th December 2015, 00:38 by majesstic

Sprucery wrote:
majesstic wrote:As far as I know, it's just XL-based now. (Ash also helps, but that's it.) I've noticed, anecdotally, on my own Tr and Og playthroughs that I seem to fall through shafts more often but it's probably unrelated to species or int.

It's not unrelated to species: species with bad exp apt (such as troll with -1) will experience shafting more often that faster-levelling species.

Wow, brain no work today. Yeah, that'd do it. Granted, Ogres level at a normal rate so that one is probably a coincidence. But yes. Trolls. Slow leveling.

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