What Weapon should I use?


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Post Saturday, 26th December 2015, 14:09

What Weapon should I use?

Hello my name is Martin and I need help to decide wich weapon I should use.
Cause I found two artefacts and I dont know if I should use them or stick with UC.
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Post Saturday, 26th December 2015, 15:40

Re: What Weapon should I use?

The morningstar's not bad, but I wouldn't give up the 12 points you've invested in unarmed, particularly since you have very little in the way of other skill points.

I'd stick with UC
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Post Saturday, 26th December 2015, 16:34

Re: What Weapon should I use?

Those are both great early game weapons if you happen to find them on a character the is already training that weapon class, but they are not end game material (you could take the morning star though the entire game but...) so probably not worth switching. Oka also gives a nice boost to UC.
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Post Sunday, 27th December 2015, 00:06

Re: What Weapon should I use?

As a single data point (so be careful of reading too much into this), your character averages 9.6 damage AvEffDam against hill giants.

With an unbranded +9 morningstar, you would do that much damage at 7.6 M&F skill.
With an unbranded +8 long sword, you would do that much damage at 9.1 long blades skill

The weapons would compare more favorably against enemies that have AC. Or if you take into account their brands.

My instincts are that switching would be better than UC in the medium term. I don't have the experience with UC to speak about the long term.

(Over the very short term switching is no help because the training doesn't make your character better until you get enough of it. You're probably better off training defensive skills now, whether or not you decide to switch)
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Post Sunday, 27th December 2015, 00:33

Re: What Weapon should I use?

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Post Sunday, 27th December 2015, 04:54

Re: What Weapon should I use?

Hurkyl wrote:As a single data point (so be careful of reading too much into this), your character averages 9.6 damage AvEffDam against hill giants.

With an unbranded +9 morningstar, you would do that much damage at 7.6 M&F skill.
With an unbranded +8 long sword, you would do that much damage at 9.1 long blades skill

The weapons would compare more favorably against enemies that have AC. Or if you take into account their brands.

My instincts are that switching would be better than UC in the medium term. I don't have the experience with UC to speak about the long term.

(Over the very short term switching is no help because the training doesn't make your character better until you get enough of it. You're probably better off training defensive skills now, whether or not you decide to switch)

The probalem with this is that he has Oka and UC damage shoots though the roof when you use heroism. I'm the long term UC is better because 22 UC+heroism wrecks things hard. Also if he gets blade hands weapons will never deal more damage.
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Post Sunday, 27th December 2015, 11:45

TheAraber wrote:(Sry for bad English, Im German)

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Post Monday, 28th December 2015, 14:43

Re: What Weapon should I use?

Elec dagger ftw

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