CIP: DsGl of Ru: Should I give Ru a hand?


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Post Friday, 4th December 2015, 00:43

CIP: DsGl of Ru: Should I give Ru a hand?

My most recent Demonspawn became Monstrous with Claws 1 at XL2, so decided that was a sign I should try playing Unarmed. Having not had much experience with Unarmed, though, I'm not fully certain how it works.

In particular, Ru has given me the option to sacrifice a hand. When using a weapon, the tradeoff is pretty clear, as, in addition to losing a ring, you lose either 2-handed damage or a shield. Both of those are pretty big hits, but the piety bump is pretty huge too. How bad is it for Unarmed, though? Do I lose some damage or get extra delay as a result of fighting one-handed?

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.18-a0-596-g6468885 (webtiles) character file.

Jarlyk the Martial Artist (Demonspawn Gladiator)   Turns: 10068, Time: 00:52:43

Health: 75/77      AC:  7    Str: 15    XL:     10   Next: 37%
Magic:  19/19      EV: 14    Int: 10    God:    Ru [**....]
Gold:   490        SH:  0    Dex: 17    Spells: 0 memorised, 9 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis .       - Unarmed
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     w - +1 ring mail
rNeg   + . .     SustAt   .     (no shield)
rPois  .         Gourm    .     (helmet restricted)
rElec  .         Spirit   .     F - +0 cloak
rCorr  .         Dismiss  .     (no gloves)
rMut   .         Stasis   .     (no boots)
MR     .....                    I - amulet of regeneration
Stlth  ..........               f - ring of magical power
                                r - ring of positive energy

@: not resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: antennae 2, claws 2, talons 1, demonic guardian 1, inability to drink while
threatened, no stealth
a: Sacrifice Essence, Sacrifice Nimbleness, Sacrifice a Hand, Reject Sacrifices,
Renounce Religion


You are on level 8 of the Dungeon.
You worship Ru.
Ru is pleased with you.
You are hungry.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 9 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ossuary.

You have collected 490 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Missiles
 u - 51 poisoned needles
 J - 2 throwing nets (quivered)
Armour
 w - a +1 ring mail (worn)
 F - a +0 cloak (worn)
Jewellery
 f - a ring of magical power (right claw)
 p - an uncursed amulet of clarity
 r - a ring of positive energy (left claw)
 I - an amulet of regeneration (around neck)
Wands
 d - a wand of draining {zapped: 5}
 j - a wand of digging
 t - a wand of cold {zapped: 4}
 y - a wand of polymorph {zapped: 4}
Scrolls
 a - a scroll of remove curse
 B - 2 scrolls of fear
 C - 4 scrolls of teleportation
 D - a scroll of amnesia
 G - a scroll of fog
 L - 2 scrolls of recharging
Potions
 b - a potion of lignification
 h - 4 potions of haste
 i - 3 potions of cancellation
 k - 3 potions of curing
 l - 2 potions of cure mutation
 m - 4 grey potions
 q - 2 bubbling silvery potions
 s - 2 ruby potions
 x - a viscous blue potion
 A - 2 white potions
 E - a metallic dark potion
 K - a potion of agility
Books
 z - a book of Burglary   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Swiftness                    Charms/Air                    2
    b - Passwall                     Transmutation/Earth           3
    c - Passage of Golubria          Translocation                 4
    d - Lee's Rapid Deconstruction   Earth                         5
    e - Darkness                     Hexes                         6
    f - Invisibility                 Hexes                         6
Miscellaneous
 o - a plain deck of war {drawn: 2}
Comestibles
 e - 6 bread rations
 g - 6 beef jerkies
 n - a slice of pizza
 v - 3 meat rations
 H - a royal jelly


   Skills:
 - Level 6.7 Fighting
   Level 3.2 Staves
 - Level 1.7 Throwing
 - Level 0.1 Armour
 + Level 5.2 Dodging
 * Level 11.7 Unarmed Combat


You have 9 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (8/15)             Temple (1/1) D:4         
  Lair: D:8-11     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Pakellas
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:8 =


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have a pair of antennae on your head.
You have very sharp fingernails.
You have sharp toenails.
A weak demonic guardian rushes to your aid.
You cannot drink potions while threatened.
You cannot be stealthy.


Message History

The hound zombie moves out of view.
A worker ant comes into view.
The worker ant twitches its antennae in your direction.
You barely miss the hound zombie. You claw the hound zombie.
You claw the hound zombie!
The hound zombie bites you but does no damage.
You claw the hound zombie!
You destroy the hound zombie!
No target in view!
The worker ant closely misses you. The worker ant barely misses you.
Found a stone staircase leading down.
You closely miss the worker ant.
You claw the worker ant, but do no damage.
The worker ant bites you.
You mangle the worker ant!!
You kill the worker ant!
Ru believes you are ready to make a new sacrifice.
Okay, then.
Char dumped successfully.
Save game and exit?

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Erolcha (D:8)
  Maurice (D:8)
  The ghost of Fhqwhgads the Cudgeler, a novice DDFi (D:5)
  Psyche (D:8)
  Prince Ribbit (D:8)
  Sigmund (D:3)
  Duvessa (D:6)
  A sky beast (D:8)
  An ice beast (D:6)
  3 phantoms
  A centaur (D:6)
  Blork the orc (D:6)
  An elf zombie (D:5)
  A gnoll sergeant (D:5)
  5 giant frogs
  An elf skeleton (D:5)
  Dowan (D:6)
  2 scorpions
  A wyvern skeleton (D:8)
  5 killer bees (D:6)
  4 wights (D:6)
  A giant frog zombie (D:8)
  2 hounds
  A centaur zombie (Ossuary)
  5 crimson imps
  2 orc priests (D:4)
  A jelly (D:7)
  6 orc wizards
  A human zombie (Ossuary)
  A quasit (D:8)
  2 centaur skeletons
  A giant frog skeleton (D:7)
  2 human skeletons (D:5)
  2 iguanas (D:6)
  11 worker ants
  A killer bee zombie (D:5)
  2 big kobold zombies (Ossuary)
  A hound zombie (D:8)
  2 mummies (Ossuary)
  2 worker ant zombies (D:5)
  9 gnolls
  8 adders
  2 shadow imps (D:5)
  2 adder zombies
  4 worms
  37 orcs
  5 bats
  4 giant cockroaches
  14 goblins
  15 hobgoblins
  11 jackals
  11 quokkas
  A ball python (D:3)
  6 giant geckos
  4 giant newts
  A goblin zombie (Ossuary)
  7 hobgoblin zombies (Ossuary)
  2 jackal skeletons (D:4)
  A jackal zombie (Ossuary)
  18 kobolds
  12 kobold zombies (Ossuary)
  2 orc skeletons (D:5)
  9 orc zombies (Ossuary)
  A quokka zombie (D:7)
  6 rats
  2 rat zombies (Ossuary)
275 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A sky beast (D:6)
  An orc (D:6)
  A kobold (D:6)
3 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A wight (D:6)
1 creature vanquished.

Grand Total: 279 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Jarlyk the Demonspawn Gladiator began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 1/1
   144 | D:1      | Reached skill level 3 in Staves
   348 | D:1      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
   352 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You have sharp fingernails. [demonic ancestry]
   352 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 22/22 MP: 2/2
   858 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat
  1186 | D:2      | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small antennae on your head. [demonic ancestry]
  1186 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 22/27 MP: 3/3
  1939 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 26/33 MP: 4/4
  2292 | D:3      | Noticed Sigmund
  2370 | D:3      | Killed Sigmund
  2370 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
  2370 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You have very sharp fingernails. [demonic ancestry]
  2370 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 33/38 MP: 5/5
  2385 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You have sharp toenails. [demonic ancestry]
  2385 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 16/44 MP: 6/6
  3009 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3016 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  3186 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Ru the Awakened
  3548 | D:4      | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas.
  4230 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat
  4230 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 46/51 MP: 7/7
  4528 | D:4      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  4531 | D:4      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  4534 | D:4      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  4555 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4613 | D:5      | Found a sand-covered staircase.
  4618 | Ossuary  | Entered an ossuary
  4703 | Ossuary  | Gained mutation: You cannot drink potions while threatened. [Ru sacrifice]
  4703 | Ossuary  | Reached * piety under Ru
  5326 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Unarmed Combat
  5522 | D:5      | Gained mutation: A weak demonic guardian rushes to your aid. [demonic ancestry]
  5522 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 58/60 MP: 8/8
  5687 | D:5      | Noticed Fhqwhgads's ghost (novice DDFi)
  5711 | D:5      | Killed Fhqwhgads's ghost
  5711 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Unarmed Combat
  6206 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  6768 | D:6      | Found an oddly glowing altar of Pakellas.
  6769 | D:6      | Noticed Duvessa
  6775 | D:6      | Noticed Dowan
  6780 | D:6      | Killed Duvessa
  6780 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Unarmed Combat
  6797 | D:6      | Killed Dowan
  6888 | D:6      | Noticed Blork the orc
  6893 | D:6      | Killed Blork the orc
  6921 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You have a pair of antennae on your head. [demonic ancestry]
  6921 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 67/69 MP: 9/9
  7685 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You cannot be stealthy. [Ru sacrifice]
  7685 | D:6      | Reached ** piety under Ru
  8040 | D:6      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  8150 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat
  9139 | D:8      | Found Mefanoodgh's Jewellery Shoppe.
  9331 | D:8      | Noticed Erolcha
  9353 | D:8      | Killed Erolcha
  9353 | D:8      | Reached skill level 11 in Unarmed Combat
  9353 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 47/77 MP: 10/10
  9481 | D:8      | Noticed Psyche
  9583 | D:8      | Killed Psyche
  9594 | D:8      | Got a twitching ivory ring
  9596 | D:8      | Identified the ring of Aseger {-Tele rF+ MP-9 Int+9 Stlth+} (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
  9747 | D:8      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  9768 | D:8      | Killed Prince Ribbit
  9910 | D:8      | Noticed Maurice
  9923 | D:8      | Killed Maurice
  9923 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Quarterstaff      |   147 |    65 |       |       ||   212
       Unarmed           |       |    94 |   571 |    44 ||   709
Throw: Throwing net      |       |     1 |     1 |     2 ||     4
Invok: Sacrifice Drink   |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Sacrifice Stealth |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |     3 |     2 |       ||     5
       Deck              |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     2
  Use: Scroll            |     4 |     1 |    18 |       ||    23
       Potion            |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Invisible         |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |     8 |    11 |     2 ||    24
       Pizza             |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
       Royal jelly       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
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Post Friday, 4th December 2015, 01:12

Re: CIP: DsGl of Ru: Should I give Ru a hand?

Each hand makes a separate attack in UC. Sacrificing hand makes you lose your offhand attack, which is much weaker than your main hand attack. You don't get any extra delay. Go for it.

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