[CiP] The opportunist DsGl
Posted: Saturday, 17th October 2015, 16:21
I started a Demonspawn with the goal of grabbing a heavy armor, joining Makhleb, and slaughtering everything with elemental devastation and my blood-stained axe. I love this playstyle. But right at the start, on D:1, I can Nightstalker. And on D:2 I find an altar to Dithmenos. So I decided "screw the plan, let's stab all the things!" and grabbed the first glowing dagger I found. Turned out to be a speed weapon.
Nightstalker + Dith is awesome, you get the equivalent of 14 points in the stealth skill for free just from the boosted mutation. That made the conversion rather painless. Didn't have any trouble cleaning Lair or Orc.
I'm now a halfway decent stabber, but the problem is that stealth is not enough to stab everything so I often end up killing stuff by dueling with my dagger... Speed multiply the damage you deal, so it's an awesome brand but on the other hand it's very sensitive to the type of weapon you're using. So I don't think that a dagger of speed is good enough to go mano-a-mano with endgame threats. That's why I need either a way to reliably set up stabs (Throwing + blowguns, or Hex for example) or a more powerful attack option than my tiny dagger. Personally, I'd rather focus on killing stuff.
I could train Throwing some more and use those Javelins, or wait until I've found a good ranged weapon and train that. Either would give me a ranged alternative ; however with Nighstalker it's even less important than usual, so I'm leaning toward a melee weapon. I've found a glowing demon whip so I could train Mace&Flail (after checking it isn't -3 cursed, of course). I could also go back to training axes, but I haven't seen anything better than a plain battleaxe yet and I'd have to give up my buckler. Or I could make use of the Long Blades cross-training, but I don't remember seeing any good one.
Any suggestion on which direction to take from here would be highly appreciated.
Nightstalker + Dith is awesome, you get the equivalent of 14 points in the stealth skill for free just from the boosted mutation. That made the conversion rather painless. Didn't have any trouble cleaning Lair or Orc.
I'm now a halfway decent stabber, but the problem is that stealth is not enough to stab everything so I often end up killing stuff by dueling with my dagger... Speed multiply the damage you deal, so it's an awesome brand but on the other hand it's very sensitive to the type of weapon you're using. So I don't think that a dagger of speed is good enough to go mano-a-mano with endgame threats. That's why I need either a way to reliably set up stabs (Throwing + blowguns, or Hex for example) or a more powerful attack option than my tiny dagger. Personally, I'd rather focus on killing stuff.
I could train Throwing some more and use those Javelins, or wait until I've found a good ranged weapon and train that. Either would give me a ranged alternative ; however with Nighstalker it's even less important than usual, so I'm leaning toward a melee weapon. I've found a glowing demon whip so I could train Mace&Flail (after checking it isn't -3 cursed, of course). I could also go back to training axes, but I haven't seen anything better than a plain battleaxe yet and I'd have to give up my buckler. Or I could make use of the Long Blades cross-training, but I don't remember seeing any good one.
Any suggestion on which direction to take from here would be highly appreciated.
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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.16.2 (tiles) character file.
Rahk the Unseen (Demonspawn Gladiator) Turns: 24914, Time: 02:04:38
Health: 110/110 AC: 12 Str: 20 XL: 14 Next: 93%
Magic: 14/14 EV: 18 Int: 12 God: Dithmenos [******]
Gold: 1918 SH: 5 Dex: 15 Spells: 0 memorised, 13 levels left
rFire + . . SeeInvis . a - +1 dagger (speed)
rCold . . . Clarity . B - +3 leather armour {rF+}
rNeg + . . SustAb . D - +0 buckler
rPois . Gourm . (helmet unavailable)
rElec . Spirit + q - +2 cloak {MR+}
rCorr . Warding . j - -1 pair of gloves of the Illusory Stars {rN+ Int+2 Dex-3 Slay+5}
rMut . Stasis . v - +0 pair of boots
MR +++.. R - amulet of regeneration
Stlth ++++++++++ n - ring of protection from magic
p - +2 ring of protection
@: wreathed by umbra, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily
stealthy
A: horns 3, agile 1, nightstalker 2, strong 1, magic shield
a: Shadow Step, Shadow Form, Renounce Religion
You are on level 3 of the Orcish Mines.
You worship Dithmenos.
Dithmenos is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.
You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 22 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth.
You have collected 2083 gold pieces.
You have spent 165 gold pieces at shops.
Inventory:
Hand weapons
a - a +1 dagger of speed (weapon)
b - a +0 blowgun
H - a +3 war axe of chopping
Missiles
d - 5 throwing nets {=f=F}
h - 51 tomahawks
A - 5 needles of confusion
L - 7 poisoned javelins
M - 26 poisoned needles
N - 4 needles of slowing
S - 13 javelins (quivered)
Armour
j - the -1 pair of gloves of the Illusory Stars (worn) {rN+ Int+2 Dex-3 Slay+5}
(You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
It affects your intelligence (+2).
It affects your dexterity (-3).
It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
(+5).
It protects you from negative energy.
q - a +2 cloak of magic resistance (worn)
v - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
B - a +3 leather armour of fire resistance (worn)
D - a +0 buckler (worn)
Jewellery
n - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
p - a +2 ring of protection (left hand)
x - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
G - an uncursed amulet of clarity
I - an uncursed ring of ice
R - an amulet of regeneration (around neck)
U - an uncursed ring of teleport control
X - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
Magical devices
l - a wand of draining {recharged}
o - a wand of confusion {zapped: 2}
r - a wand of polymorph
C - a wand of cold {zapped: 5}
W - a wand of disintegration
Scrolls
k - 5 scrolls of fog
s - 2 scrolls of identify
t - 6 scrolls of teleportation
y - a scroll of blinking
O - a scroll of torment {!r}
V - 6 scrolls of remove curse
Potions
c - a potion of magic
e - 2 potions of resistance
g - a potion of flight
m - 4 potions of might
u - 4 potions of restore abilities
E - a potion of haste
F - 4 potions of curing
K - 2 potions of cancellation
P - a potion of heal wounds
Books
Q - a book of the Warp
Spells Type Level
a - Recall Summoning/Translocation 3
b - Control Teleport Charms/Translocation 4
c - Force Lance Conjuration/Translocation 4
d - Phase Shift Translocation 5
e - Warp Weapon Charms/Translocation 5
f - Gell's Gravitas Hexes/Translocation 5
g - Summon Forest Summoning/Translocation 5
T - the Disquisition on Arcane Weapons
(You found it on level 1 of the Orcish Mines)
Spells Type Level
a - Shock Conjuration/Air 1
b - Searing Ray Conjuration 2
c - Stone Arrow Conjuration/Earth 3
d - Bolt of Magma Conjuration/Fire/Earth 5
e - Poisonous Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 6
Miscellaneous
i - an ornate deck of cards
Comestibles
f - 11 bread rations
w - 3 chunks of flesh
z - 10 meat rations
Skills:
- Level 10,0 Fighting
- Level 10,0 Short Blades
- Level 4,0 Axes
Level 1,2 Bows
- Level 1,7 Throwing
- Level 1,0 Armour
- Level 10,0 Dodging
+ Level 17,9 Stealth
- Level 4,9 Shields
You have 13 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (11/15) Temple (0/1) D:4 Lair (8/8) D:8
Shoals (0/5) Lair:6 Snake (0/5) Lair:3 Slime (0/6) Lair:6
Orc (3/4) D:10 Elf (0/3) Orc:3
Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Shops:
D:7 ( Orc:1 *}! Orc:3 [
Annotations:
Lair:6 exclusion: oklob plant
Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations
You have a pair of large horns on your head.
You are significantly more attuned to the shadows.
When hurt, damage is shared between your health and your magic reserves.
You are agile. (Dex +2)
Your muscles are strong. (Str +2)
Message History
a dagger; a scale mail
Eating one of 4 chunks of flesh. This raw flesh tastes terrible.
You continue eating. x2
Things that are here:
a war axe; an orc corpse
Done exploring.
Move the cursor to view the level map, or type ? for a list of commands.
Returning to the game...
Things that are here:
a flail; an orc skeleton
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
Search for what [Enter for "dagger", or ? for help]? dagger
Search for what [Enter for "dagger", or ? for help]? axe
Search for what [Enter for "axe", or ? for help]? mace
Wield which item (- for none, * to show all)? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
b - a +0 blowgun (weapon)
Your hands tingle!
a - a +1 dagger of speed (weapon)
Char dumped to 'morgue/Rahk.txt'.
Saving game... please wait.
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Vanquished Creatures
Rupert (Lair:6)
Maud (Lair:4)
A minotaur (Lab)
A fire dragon (Lair:8)
Josephine (D:10)
5 hydras
2 catoblepae (Lair:8)
6 death yaks
Urug (Orc:2)
Erolcha (Orc:3)
A fire crab (Lair:7)
A hill giant (D:10)
The ghost of Vinny the Slicer, an experienced VSAs of Okawaru (D:8)
A griffon (Lair:8)
2 manticores (Lair:8)
A cyclops (Orc:2)
A necromancer (Lair:3)
An ugly thing (D:11)
2 sirens (Lair:6)
33 elephants
7 black mambas
A gargoyle (D:10)
16 spiny frogs
10 komodo dragons
6 fire drakes
4 trolls
17 blink frogs
2 merfolk (Lair:6)
A wandering mushroom (Lair:8)
A polar bear (Lair:6)
3 slime creatures (Lair:6)
5 basilisks
4 snapping turtles (D:9)
36 yaks
5 wyverns
A mottled dragon (Lair:8)
A steam dragon (Lair:8)
6 wraiths
2 wargs
9 hippogriffs
18 water moccasins
14 porcupines
A naga (Lair:3)
13 orc warriors
2 swamp drakes (Lair:8)
4 sky beasts
An ice beast (D:5)
2 phantoms
5 black bears
5 ogres
5 centaurs
15 crocodiles
11 giant frogs
4 big kobolds
Blork the orc (D:8)
A komodo dragon zombie (Lair:3)
2 scorpions
6 electric eels
13 killer bees
3 wights (D:10)
A goliath beetle (D:5)
A quasit (D:11)
2 crimson imps
A giant frog zombie (D:5)
A basilisk zombie (Lair:3)
12 hounds
A jelly (Lair:6)
34 orc wizards
12 orc priests
9 iguanas
7 worker ants
A killer bee zombie (D:8)
28 sheep
A worker ant zombie (D:8)
A hound skeleton (D:5)
45 river rats
29 adders
4 gnolls
2 giant mites
2 worms
3 shadow imps
An adder skeleton (D:9)
An adder zombie (D:8)
6 giant geckos
An ooze (D:2)
130 orcs
A ball python (D:3)
19 bats
2 bat skeletons
3 bat zombies (D:9)
5 giant cockroaches
15 hobgoblins
4 jackals
9 quokkas
A giant gecko skeleton (D:5)
4 giant newts
3 giant spores
15 goblins
A goblin zombie (D:6)
3 hobgoblin zombies (D:6)
A jackal zombie (D:7)
14 kobolds
3 kobold skeletons (D:6)
An orc skeleton (D:6)
2 orc zombies (D:6)
A quokka zombie (D:5)
20 rats
4 rat zombies (D:9)
9 ballistomycetes
3 plants
806 creatures vanquished.
Vanquished Creatures (others)
A hound (Lair:3)
A river rat (Lair:3)
2 fungi (Lair:5)
2 plants (Lair:5)
6 creatures vanquished.
Grand Total: 812 creatures vanquished
Notes
Turn | Place | Note
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0 | D:1 | Rahk, the Demonspawn Gladiator, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 1/1
245 | D:1 | Reached skill level 3 in Axes
369 | D:1 | Gained mutation: You are slightly more attuned to the shadows. [demonic ancestry]
369 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 22/22 MP: 2/2
970 | D:2 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
1204 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 27/27 MP: 3/3
1276 | D:2 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
1286 | D:2 | Became a worshipper of Dithmenos the Shadowed
1366 | D:2 | Reached skill level 4 in Axes
1694 | D:3 | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head. [demonic ancestry]
1694 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 13/33 MP: 4/4
2345 | D:3 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
2406 | D:3 | Gained mutation: You have a pair of horns on your head. [demonic ancestry]
2406 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 36/38 MP: 5/5
2834 | D:4 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
2838 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
2872 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
3098 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
3111 | D:4 | Gained mutation: When hurt, damage is shared between your health and your magic reserves. [demonic ancestry]
3111 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 44/44 MP: 6/6
3274 | D:4 | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
3275 | D:4 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
3498 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
3536 | D:4 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
3536 | D:4 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
3560 | D:5 | Acquired Dithmenos' first power
3732 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 45/50 MP: 5/7
3968 | D:5 | You fall through a shaft!
4010 | D:6 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
4073 | D:6 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
4092 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
4346 | D:5 | Reached skill level 6 in Short Blades
4831 | D:6 | Acquired Dithmenos' second power
5122 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 56/56 MP: 8/8
5398 | D:6 | Reached skill level 7 in Short Blades
5856 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Short Blades
5937 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Bows
6023 | D:7 | Reached skill level 9 in Short Blades
6037 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 41/61 MP: 9/9
6118 | D:7 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
6128 | D:7 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
6215 | D:7 | Found Ypiot's Weapon Shoppe.
6508 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades
6716 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
6719 | D:8 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
6750 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
6786 | D:8 | Noticed Blork the orc
6791 | D:8 | Killed Blork the orc
6837 | D:8 | Identified a book of Alchemy
6856 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair.
6871 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
7209 | D:8 | Gained mutation: You are significantly more attuned to the shadows. [demonic ancestry]
7209 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 65/67 MP: 10/10
7215 | D:8 | Got a pair of spiked gloves
7221 | D:8 | Identified the cursed -1 pair of gloves of the Illusory Stars {rN+ Int+2 Dex-3 Slay+5} (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
7377 | D:8 | Acquired Dithmenos' third power
7384 | D:8 | Noticed Vinny's ghost (experienced VSAs)
7436 | D:8 | Killed Vinny's ghost
7796 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
8043 | D:8 | Noticed a two-headed hydra
8088 | D:8 | Killed a two-headed hydra
8789 | D:9 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
8927 | D:9 | Got an iridescent rapier
8979 | D:9 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
9144 | D:9 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
9353 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
9426 | D:10 | Found a runed door.
9433 | D:10 | Gained mutation: You have a pair of large horns on your head. [demonic ancestry]
9433 | D:10 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 83/83 MP: 11/11
9623 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
9783 | D:10 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
9899 | D:10 | Noticed Josephine
9899 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant
9906 | D:10 | Killed Josephine
9913 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant
10698 | D:11 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
10701 | D:11 | Saw a vision of the Shoals and the Snake Pit.
10701 | D:11 | Noticed a naga ritualist
10701 | D:11 | Noticed a shock serpent
10702 | D:11 | Noticed a sea snake
10702 | D:11 | Noticed a sea snake
10704 | D:11 | Noticed a sea snake
10926 | D:11 | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong. (Str +2) [mutagenic meat]
10927 | D:11 | Gained mutation: You are agile. (Dex +2) [mutagenic meat]
11093 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
11332 | Lair:1 | Noticed a spiny frog
11342 | Lair:1 | Killed a spiny frog
11537 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
11583 | Lair:1 | Noticed a komodo dragon
11587 | Lair:1 | Killed a komodo dragon
11666 | Lair:1 | Noticed a komodo dragon
11681 | Lair:1 | Killed a komodo dragon
11849 | Lair:2 | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
11854 | Lair:2 | Killed a seven-headed hydra
12507 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 93/93 MP: 12/12
12964 | Lair:3 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
13959 | Lair:4 | Identified a Young Poisoner's Handbook
14433 | Lair:4 | Noticed Maud
14440 | Lair:4 | Killed Maud
14440 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
14679 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth
14987 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth
14995 | Lair:5 | Identified a book of Clouds
15027 | Lair:5 | Noticed a six-headed hydra
15237 | Lair:5 | Found a labyrinth entrance.
15245 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth
16070 | Lab | Noticed a minotaur
16237 | Lab | Killed a minotaur
16237 | Lab | Reached XP level 13. HP: 98/98 MP: 13/13
16240 | Lab | Got a faintly humming chain mail
16253 | Lab | Identified the +4 chain mail "Smiraiwk" {+Inv rF- Regen+ Dex+3 SInv} (You took it off a minotaur in a labyrinth)
16269 | Lab | Got a brightly glowing ruby amulet
16269 | Lab | Identified a book of Ice (You found it in a labyrinth)
16271 | Lab | Identified the amulet "Cuoqyafy" {Inacc MR+ Dex+2} (You found it in a labyrinth)
16275 | Lab | Identified a book of Control (You found it in a labyrinth)
16538 | Lair:5 | Killed a six-headed hydra
17319 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth
17417 | Lair:6 | Noticed Rupert
17420 | Lair:6 | Killed Rupert
17538 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 14 in Stealth
17720 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
17877 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
18365 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth
18912 | Lair:7 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 66/105 MP: 14/14
18986 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth
19197 | Lair:1 | Identified a scroll of acquirement
19979 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
20400 | Lair:8 | Acquired Dithmenos' fourth power
20440 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
20505 | Lair:8 | Got an ancient arbalest
20511 | Lair:8 | Identified the +0 arbalest of Demonkind {flame, +Blink rN+ MR- Str+4 Stlth-} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
21238 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 17 in Stealth
21262 | Lair:8 | Got a pair of heavily runed gloves
21273 | Lair:8 | Identified the +1 pair of gloves of Inevitability {rPois MR- rCorr} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
22665 | D:10 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
22737 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
22737 | Orc:1 | Found Smofurhobaa's Book Boutique.
22743 | Orc:1 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
22828 | Orc:1 | Found Shoed's Gadget Shoppe.
22859 | Orc:1 | Found Shapp's General Store.
22872 | Orc:1 | Found Hulare's Distillery.
22981 | Orc:1 | Identified a book of the Warp
22995 | Orc:1 | Identified the Disquisition on Arcane Weapons (You found it on level 1 of the Orcish Mines)
23433 | Orc:2 | Noticed Urug
23481 | Orc:2 | Killed Urug
24053 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
24153 | Orc:3 | Noticed Erolcha
24172 | Orc:3 | Killed Erolcha
24258 | Orc:3 | Found Clotuj's Antique Armour Shop.
24274 | Orc:3 | Bought a twisted robe for 165 gold pieces
24284 | Orc:3 | Identified the cursed -5 robe of Misfortune {-Cast Contam *Tele EV-4 Str-2 Int-2 Dex-2 Stlth-- Curse} (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Orcish Mines)
24690 | Orc:3 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
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Melee: War axe | 101 | 142 | 225 | | || 468
Dagger | | 4 | 258 | 861 | 1493 || 2616
Unarmed | | | | | 30 || 30
Fire: Shortbow | | | 4 | | || 4
Throw: Stone | 23 | 38 | 54 | 4 | || 119
Javelin | | | | 5 | 5 || 10
Invok: Shadow Step | | | 1 | 8 | 11 || 20
Evoke: Wand | | | | | 1 || 1
Use: Scroll | | 2 | 6 | 12 | 16 || 36
Potion | | | 2 | 5 | 2 || 9
Stab: Sleeping | 1 | 5 | 10 | 97 | 164 || 277
Distracted | | 1 | 2 | 7 | 6 || 16
Invisible | | | 9 | | 2 || 11
Petrified | | | | | 3 || 3
Petrifying | | | | | 1 || 1
Eat: Chunk | 2 | 10 | 18 | 19 | 34 || 83
Meat ration | | | | 1 | || 1