POLL: Body armour

[Sandman25]

I am curious which body armour you would use for the character, it's about to enter Vaults with MR+

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DsEn the Unseen (Demonspawn Enchanter)             Turns: 45843, Time: 04:33:39

Health: 153/153    AC: 27    Str: 11    XL:     18   Next: 43%
Magic:  32/32      EV: 16    Int: 22    God:    Ru [******]
Gold:   672        SH:  0    Dex: 11    Spells: 12 memorised, 3 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis .     a - +9 quick blade (flame)
rCold  + . .     Clarity  .     (no armour)
rNeg   + . .     SustAt   .     (shield unavailable)
rPois  .         Gourm    .     (helmet unavailable)
rElec  .         Spirit   .     T - +2 cloak
rCorr  .         Warding  .     s - +1 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Stasis   .     G - +0 pair of boots {run}
MR     +....                    r - amulet of Vitality {Regen+ HP+15}
Stlth  +++++++...               n - ring of positive energy {rN+}
                                (ring unavailable)
@: quick, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely stealthy
A: horns 3, rough black scales 3, cold resistance 1, demonic guardian 1,
icemail, freezing cloud immunity, missing a hand, inability to use devices,
cowardly

   Skills:
 + Level 11.3 Fighting
 - Level 10.0 Short Blades
 - Level 8.5 Armour
 + Level 8.5 Dodging
 + Level 18.0 Stealth
 - Level 10.1 Spellcasting
 - Level 14.6 Hexes
 - Level 5.8 Charms
 - Level 2.0 Summonings
 - Level 2.1 Necromancy
 - Level 5.0 Ice Magic
 - Level 5.0 Air Magic
 - Level 3.0 Poison Magic

You have 3 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Apportation           Tloc           ##........   8%          1    None
b - Tukima's Dance        Hex            ######..     1%          3    None
c - Confuse               Hex            ######..     1%          3    None
d - Dazzling Spray        Conj/Hex       #####...     1%          3    None
e - Cure Poison           Pois           ###.......   2%          2    None
f - Cause Fear            Hex            ######....   1%          4    ##.....
s - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       #####...     1%          3    None
u - Animate Skeleton      Necr           N/A          2%          1    None
z - Ensorcelled Hibernat  Hex/Ice        ######       1%          2    None
O - Invisibility          Hex            ######..     2%          6    ######.
P - Summon Butterflies    Summ           ###.....     2%          1    None
S - Silence               Hex/Air        ######....   3%          5    ####...

 f - an uncursed ring of protection from fire {rF+, !d}
   (You found it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts)
 n - a ring of positive energy (right hand) {rN+}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Dungeon)
 p - an uncursed ring of poison resistance {rP+, !d}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)
 r - the amulet of Vitality (around neck) {Regen+ HP+15}
   (You found it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [amulet of regeneration]
   
   It affects your health (+15).
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
 w - an uncursed ring of wizardry {wiz+, !d}
   (You took it off a kobold on level 2 of the Dungeon)
 B - an uncursed ring of ice {rC+, rF-}
   (You found it on level 12 of the Dungeon)


[Zwobot]

I like stacking regen ... but what branch will you be using it for?

[Sandman25]

I entered Vaults.

[linear]

Of your choices, definitely the robe with rF+ SInv because of several enemies with fire or invisibility. However, as you know, with only MR+ you are very likely to be banished by an ogre mage. If you have a wand of digging, it would be easier to get away from ogre mages in Depths.

[Siegurt]

I would take archmagi, archmagi will help with hex power and AC (Ozocubu's gets more spellpower)

Resistance supplies a pip of rF, which would be good if you had a better ring to use than your rF ring (Which really you don't)

I'd take resistance over the New world robe (because 2 AC and an extra pip of RC is better IMHO than regen and SInv)

The rPois, dex and mana robe is also tempting, I'd probably select that if I felt like i didn't need more spellpower, that's a close second choice for me.

MDA prevents OA casting now, and rSticky is useless, so that's out of the running.

[Zwobot]

Yeah he has a plain ring of rF+ - which is good enough. Honestly the robes are all good - though he has decent spellpower IMO, Tukima's can take out most threats, EH is at max SP, Invis will murder everything but sentinels. Boots of running and Regen++ sound like fun

... just don't stumble into Mennas ^^

[Sandman25]

I have Silence and high stealth for banishers/markers/paralyzers, just cleared Vaults 1 after putting some exclusions on Tengu Reavers and other dangerous groups.

Edit. I sacrifices Evocations, no flight/digging ever.

[Sandman25]

Using ring of ice I get +1 AC for Ozo Armour, not a big deal IMHO especially when I can use +2 robe instead.

Edit. Yes, Mennas will kill me easily

[Berder]

SInv isn't that important with defenses like that. 27 AC with no body armor? Unseen horrors aren't going to be a problem. And you have your rF+ rC+ already, so I'd take archmagi.

[Sandman25]

Why archmagi? For confuse?

Edit. Icemail gives +10 AC and I have another +10 from demonic scale. Ozo Armour is not even active here.

[Berder]

Confuse, ozo, cause fear. I guess it's not super important.

[Sandman25]

I went with +0 robe of the New World {rF+ Regen+ SInv}.
Not sure if it was a mistake, Tukima vs Skeletal Warriors was pretty bad without archmagi. But at least I could kill them with melee thanks to regen which works nicely in long fights like when you use quickblade with high AC character.

[duvessa]

a great example of why you shouldnt take advice from this forum

[Sandman25]

a great example of why you shouldnt take advice from this forum

What would you wear?

I picked my choice without forum. I switched to +3 MDA on Depths 5 (AC 29/EV 17 when icemail is melt), also switched to +4 quickblade of distortion from Hall of Blades.

[duvessa]

archmagi

[Sandman25]

archmagi

Confuse was not that reliable even with archmagi, I didn't want to train more hexes. I had to run a lot after casting silence vs banishers/paralyzers/markers, extra regen and simultaneous rF/rN (pain, agony, Hell Knights) seemed more useful.

[tasonir]

Archmagi is tempting, sure, but I'd still go with the regen/resistance for survivability. If he wanted to keep up with hexes, a few more levels would make them reliable, generally speaking. If he's switching away from that, he's probably got some other way ready to deal with monsters. I don't find myself with a quick blade in melee very often, but at least it was +9, so hopefully it works out decently. He's mostly killing things with the quick blade, and archmagi isn't going to change that.

I'd be more tempted to use archmagi on a conjurations build, and also if the character needed ac. A +0 robe vs +2 robe can matter when it's 10 ac vs 12, but this character already has 27 ac in the mid game, so I didn't really count the +0 against the randart robe.

[daggaz]

SInv isn't that important with defenses like that. 27 AC with no body armor? Unseen horrors aren't going to be a problem..

Its vaults, unseen horrors arent the problem, greater liches are. That said, I'd go with archmagi as well.

[Sandman25]

Interesting that there are votes for every option. The character was lucky indeed.

[dowan]

I voted for this one:
+2 robe of Monotheism {rPois MP+9 Dex+4}
Because I'm dumb and didn't read the OP first. It'd be a great robe for lair & branches, if you didn't already have an rPois ring...