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[MainiacJoe]

I've found a shield on D:3 and a morningstar on D:6, and I also have a giant club I lifted off an ogre. I think I want to spend my 2 ?EA on my shield and go one-handed for a while. Eventually (I hope there's an eventually) Trog will give me a nice 2-handed mace, but I think the shield helps me stay alive now better (EV9 SH9 vs. EV11 SH 0).

I'd also like some feedback on my skilling. Ought I go 100% M&F for awhile to reduce my attack delay? Or instead ought I add a Dodging focus to what I have now? I have the impression it's too early to train Throwing or Evocs even though I have nice items for both of those skills.

I've really appreciated the blowgun and have started wielding it during auto-explore because if I want to soften up the baddie, I'll decide that when it hits LOS and I don't waste a turn swapping weapons that way. Is that wise?

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.16.1 (tiles) character file.

Joe the Cudgeler (Ogre Berserker)                   Turns: 5693, Time: 00:25:50

Health: 84/84      AC:  5    Str: 23    XL:     8   Next: 1%
Magic:  8/8        EV:  9    Int:  6    God:    Trog [****..]
Gold:   235        SH:  9    Dex: 11    Spells: 0 memorised, 7 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis .     a - +0 morningstar
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     q - +2 animal skin
rNeg   . . .     SustAb   .     t - +0 shield
rPois  .         Gourm    +     (helmet restricted)
rElec  .         Spirit   .     (no cloak)
rCorr  .         Warding  .     (gloves unavailable)
rMut   .         Stasis   .     (boots unavailable)
MR     .....                    j - amulet of the gourmand
Stlth  +.........               (no ring)
                                (no ring)

@: not resistant to hostile enchantments, very unstealthy
A: unfitting armour, tough skin 1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion


You are on level 6 of the Dungeon.
You worship Trog.
Trog is greatly pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 6 of its levels.

You have collected 235 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +0 morningstar (weapon)
 b - a +0 blowgun
 x - a giant club
Missiles
 i - 167 stones
 k - 34 poisoned needles
 l - 5 tomahawks (quivered)
Armour
 q - a +2 animal skin (worn)
 t - a +0 shield (worn)
Jewellery
 j - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck)
Magical devices
 o - a wand of slowing (46)
 r - a wand of digging
Scrolls
 e - 2 scrolls of remove curse
 g - a scroll of noise
 n - a scroll of magic mapping
 v - 2 scrolls of enchant armour
Potions
 d - 2 potions of might
 h - a potion of heal wounds
 m - 2 potions of haste
 p - a murky red potion
 s - a potion of restore abilities
 u - a ruby potion
Comestibles
 c - 3 meat rations
 f - 3 slices of pizza
 A - a bread ration


   Skills:
 + Level 6.4 Fighting
 * Level 7.1 Maces & Flails
 - Level 1.5 Armour
 + Level 4.7 Dodging
 + Level 3.4 Shields


You have 7 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (6/15)           
Temple: D:4-7       

Altars:
Dithmenos


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have tough skin (AC +1).


Message History

Take off which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You start removing your armour. You continue taking off your +0 shield.
You continue taking off your +0 shield. x3
You finish taking off your +0 shield.
Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You start putting on your armour. You continue putting on your +0 shield.
You continue putting on your +0 shield. x3
You finish putting on your +0 shield.
You see here a morningstar.
w - a morningstar
Wield which item (- for none, * to show all)? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
w - a +0 morningstar (weapon)
Adjust (i)tems, (s)pells, or (a)bilities?
Adjust which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
w - a +0 morningstar (weapon)
Adjust to which letter?  (? for menu, Esc to quit)
a - a +0 morningstar (weapon); w - a +0 flail
Drop what? 25/52 slots (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You drop a +0 flail.
Saving game... please wait.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Eustachio (D:5)
  Menkaure (D:4)
  An orc warrior (D:5)
  An ogre (D:4)
  A scorpion (D:4)
  A giant frog zombie (D:5)
  2 hounds (D:4)
  An iguana (D:4)
  3 worker ants
  A hound zombie (D:5)
  4 gnolls (D:5)
  An adder (D:2)
  A giant mite (D:3)
  3 worms
  3 giant geckos (D:3)
  An ooze (D:3)
  3 orcs (D:5)
  A bat zombie (D:5)
  12 giant cockroaches
  8 hobgoblins
  2 quokkas (D:2)
  10 bats
  4 giant newts
  11 goblins
  7 kobolds
  2 quokka skeletons (D:4)
  8 rats
94 creatures vanquished.

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Joe, the Ogre Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 24/24 MP: 1/1
   248 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 14/32 MP: 2/2
   710 | D:1      | Acquired Trog's second power
   896 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 23/40 MP: 3/3
  1826 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 49/49 MP: 4/4
  2388 | D:3      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  2995 | D:4      | Noticed Menkaure
  3001 | D:4      | Killed Menkaure
  3001 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  3001 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  3001 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  3001 | D:4      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 57/57 MP: 5/5
  3390 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 47/66 MP: 6/6
  3761 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  3793 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  3848 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 72/72 MP: 7/7
  4160 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4679 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Fighting
  5086 | D:5      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  5104 | D:5      | Noticed Eustachio
  5114 | D:5      | Killed Eustachio
  5153 | D:5      | Acquired Trog's third power
  5439 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  5604 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 84/84 MP: 8/8


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Mace              |   107 |    91 |    90 ||   288
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |    18 |    21 ||    39
Throw: Stone             |     2 |       |       ||     2
Invok: Berserk           |     3 |     3 |     2 ||     8
  Use: Scroll            |     5 |     5 |     6 ||    16
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |     6 |    11 ||    20
       Meat ration       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Beef jerky        |       |     1 |       ||     1



[MainiacJoe]

Found scrolls of brand weapon and enchant weapon, and then a randart whip. +1 morningstar of freezing vs. +8 whip of venom rPois? I'm going with the whip for now, switching to the morningstar for high AC opponents.

[ajon]

Just trying to eyeball it, I think the whip will be slightly better for most opponents with the higher enchantment and faster speed. Mace will be better with a few more enchantments though Id think especially against armored opponents.

[MainiacJoe]

The RNG has given me an abundance of nice M&Fs:

the +9 flail "Neustr Oske" {flame, rElec rF- rN+ Str+3 Dex+3} (I have a ring rF to go with it)
the +8 whip "Snakebite" (weapon) {venom, rPois}
a +2 morningstar of protection
+2 demon whip of freezing
+1 morningstar of freezing

Trog has given me a handful of steel javelins. Thanks, Trog.

I'm using the flail most of the time, switching to the whip for poison givers or -vulnerables. I'm considering using the flail of protection for hydras since they are lots of liitle strikes. I just hit Lair:1.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.16.1 (tiles) character file.

Joe the Basher (Ogre Berserker)                    Turns: 12800, Time: 01:11:16

Health: 123/123    AC:  7    Str: 24    XL:     11   Next: 20%
Magic:  12/12      EV: 12    Int:  6    God:    Trog [*****.]
Gold:   121        SH: 13    Dex: 12    Spells: 0 memorised, 10 levels left

rFire  + . .     SeeInvis .     c - +8 whip "Snakebite" {venom, rPois}
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     D - +1 troll leather armour
rNeg   + . .     SustAb   .     N - +3 shield of Hoaduequ {rCorr}
rPois  +         Gourm    +     (helmet restricted)
rElec  .         Spirit   .     G - +0 cloak
rCorr  +         Warding  .     (gloves unavailable)
rMut   .         Stasis   .     (boots unavailable)
MR     +....                    j - amulet of the gourmand
Stlth  +.........               Q - ring of protection from fire
                                J - ring of positive energy

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, very unstealthy
A: unfitting armour, tough skin 1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion


You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Trog.
Trog is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 12 of its levels.

You have collected 538 gold pieces.
You have spent 417 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - the +9 flail "Neustr Oske" {flame, rElec rF- rN+ Str+3 Dex+3}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It has been specially enchanted to burn those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly
   susceptible opponents.
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It makes you vulnerable to fire.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It protects you from negative energy.
 b - a +1 blowgun
 c - the +8 whip "Snakebite" (weapon) {venom, rPois}
   (You took it off a kobold on level 7 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It poisons the flesh of those it strikes.
   
   It protects you from poison.
 t - a +2 morningstar of protection
 F - a +1 morningstar of freezing
 X - a +2 demon whip of freezing
Missiles
 i - 167 stones
 k - 49 poisoned needles
 l - 8 tomahawks
 U - 4 steel javelins (quivered)
Armour
 q - a +2 animal skin
 v - a +1 robe of positive energy
 D - a +1 troll leather armour (worn)
 G - a +0 cloak (worn)
 N - the +3 shield of Hoaduequ (worn) {rCorr}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 10 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from acid and corrosion.
Jewellery
 j - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck)
 z - an uncursed ring of flight
 E - an uncursed amulet of regeneration
 J - a ring of positive energy (left hand)
 Q - a ring of protection from fire (right hand)
 Z - an uncursed ring of poison resistance
Magical devices
 o - a wand of slowing (46)
 r - a wand of digging
 w - a wand of slowing
 C - a wand of lightning (8)
 H - a wand of disintegration
 I - a wand of polymorph
 L - a wand of fireball
 T - a wand of polymorph
Scrolls
 e - a scroll of remove curse
 g - a scroll of noise
 h - a scroll of recharging
 n - 3 scrolls of magic mapping
 y - 3 scrolls of teleportation
 K - a scroll of identify
 S - a scroll of blinking
 W - a scroll labeled ZEL OSOMOODD
 Y - a scroll of fog
Potions
 d - 3 potions of might
 m - 2 potions of haste
 p - a potion of cancellation
 s - 2 potions of restore abilities
 u - a potion of ambrosia
 A - 2 potions of agility
Books
 R - the Grimoire of Battle Magic
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Flame Tongue                 Conjuration/Fire              1
    b - Searing Ray                  Conjuration                   2
    c - Throw Frost                  Conjuration/Ice               2
    d - Iskenderun's Mystic Blast    Conjuration                   4
    e - Lightning Bolt               Conjuration/Air               5
    f - Bolt of Draining             Conjuration/Necromancy        5
   
   
   Trog disapproves of the use of such an item.
Miscellaneous
 M - a plain deck of cards
 O - a fan of gales
Comestibles
 f - 9 slices of pizza
 B - 3 beef jerkies
 P - 3 meat rations
 V - 2 bread rations


   Skills:
 * Level 11.7 Fighting
 + Level 12.2 Maces & Flails
 + Level 2.4 Throwing
 - Level 1.5 Armour
 * Level 8.5 Dodging
 + Level 1.5 Stealth
 - Level 5.4 Shields
 + Level 0.8 Evocations


You have 10 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (10/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7            Lair (1/8) D:10
   Orc: D:9-12     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:10 }*}[

Annotations:
D:5 exclusion: downstairs


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have tough skin (AC +1).


Message History

You climb downwards.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
Items here: )) [[
a chain mail; a mace; a plate armour; a scimitar
You see here a dagger.
Items here: ) [[[
a leather armour; a ring mail; a robe; a dagger
Done exploring.
(D) Dungeon        (T) Temple         (L) Lair           
Where to? (Enter - D:10, ? - help)
What level of the Lair of Beasts? (default 1, ? - help)
You enter the shallow water.
Moving in this stuff is going to be slow.
There is a staircase to the Lair here.
You climb downwards. Welcome to the Lair of Beasts!
You hear a distant snort.
Hark! There is an entrance to a minotaur's labyrinth on this level. Find the entrance quickly before the gate is sealed!
A crocodile comes into view.
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
Saving game... please wait.

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You can see a crocodile (sleeping).

Vanquished Creatures
  A centaur warrior (D:8)
  An unseen horror (D:8)
  A hill giant (D:10)
  A centaur skeleton (D:8)
  2 trolls (D:10)
  2 deep elf magi
  A wraith (D:8)
  A hippogriff (D:9)
  Eustachio (D:5)
  A human (D:8)
  A wolf (D:10)
  Edmund (D:8)
  A water moccasin (D:7)
  Menkaure (D:4)
  2 orc warriors
  3 sky beasts
  2 black bears
  2 ice beasts
  2 ogres
  A phantom (D:8)
  3 centaurs
  3 giant frogs (D:7)
  A big kobold (D:9)
  11 killer bees
  2 scorpions
  4 wights
  A crimson imp (D:10)
  2 giant frog zombies
  A goliath beetle (D:6)
  3 jellies (D:9)
  15 hounds
  3 iguanas
  2 giant frog skeletons
  An orc priest (D:6)
  4 orc wizards
  4 sheep (D:8)
  8 worker ants
  A hound zombie (D:5)
  A hound skeleton (D:6)
  3 mummies
  2 worker ant zombies
  4 gnolls (D:5)
  3 adders
  2 shadow imps
  2 giant mites
  3 worms
  An adder zombie (D:8)
  5 giant geckos
  An ooze (D:3)
  22 orcs
  A bat skeleton (D:6)
  A bat zombie (D:5)
  14 giant cockroaches
  12 hobgoblins
  3 quokkas
  15 bats
  A giant gecko skeleton (D:7)
  5 giant newts
  2 giant spores (D:9)
  12 goblins
  A jackal zombie (D:8)
  13 kobolds
  2 quokka skeletons (D:4)
  13 rats
  3 ballistomycetes (D:9)
244 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  An ugly thing (D:8)
  An iguana (D:8)
  An orc (D:6)
3 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An ogre (D:6)
1 creature vanquished.

Grand Total: 248 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Joe, the Ogre Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 24/24 MP: 1/1
   248 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 14/32 MP: 2/2
   710 | D:1      | Acquired Trog's second power
   896 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 23/40 MP: 3/3
  1826 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 49/49 MP: 4/4
  2388 | D:3      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  2995 | D:4      | Noticed Menkaure
  3001 | D:4      | Killed Menkaure
  3001 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  3001 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  3001 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  3001 | D:4      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 57/57 MP: 5/5
  3390 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 47/66 MP: 6/6
  3761 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  3793 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  3848 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 72/72 MP: 7/7
  4160 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4679 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Fighting
  5086 | D:5      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  5104 | D:5      | Noticed Eustachio
  5114 | D:5      | Killed Eustachio
  5153 | D:5      | Acquired Trog's third power
  5439 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  5604 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 84/84 MP: 8/8
  6056 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  6204 | D:6      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  6767 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  7087 | D:7      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  7360 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  7373 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  7603 | D:7      | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
  7603 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 92/92 MP: 9/9
  8360 | D:7      | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
  8644 | D:8      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  8694 | D:8      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  8869 | D:8      | Noticed a green ugly thing
  8888 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  8894 | D:8      | Killed a green ugly thing
  9178 | D:8      | Noticed a centaur skeleton
  9180 | D:8      | Noticed a centaur warrior
  9191 | D:8      | Killed a centaur warrior
  9191 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 98/106 MP: 10/10
  9197 | D:8      | Killed a centaur skeleton
  9273 | D:8      | Got an ancient flail
  9274 | D:8      | Identified the +9 flail "Neustr Oske" {flame, rElec rF- rN+ Str+3 Dex+3} (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
  9292 | D:8      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  9330 | D:8      | Killed an unseen horror
  9330 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
  9429 | D:8      | Identified the Grimoire of Battle Magic
  9592 | D:8      | Received a gift from Trog
  9596 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
  9737 | D:8      | Noticed Edmund
  9745 | D:8      | Killed Edmund
 10106 | D:8      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
 10106 | D:8      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 10107 | D:8      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
 11438 | D:9      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 11471 | D:9      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 11640 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 11784 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 11795 | D:10     | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
 11815 | D:10     | Found Istriskocwo's General Store.
 11827 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 97/120 MP: 11/11
 11871 | D:10     | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
 11998 | D:10     | Found Praegh's Gadget Boutique.
 12007 | D:10     | Bought a wand of lightning (8) for 132 gold pieces
 12309 | D:10     | Found Qiuruir's Gadget Shoppe.
 12319 | D:10     | Found Efeg Era's Antique Armour Boutique.
 12327 | D:10     | Bought a scorched shield for 285 gold pieces
 12338 | D:10     | Identified the +3 shield of Hoaduequ {rCorr} (You bought it in a shop on level 10 of the Dungeon)
 12429 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 12436 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 12799 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Mace              |   107 |    91 |    90 |       ||   288
       Morningstar       |       |       |   167 |       ||   167
       Whip              |       |       |    64 |    80 ||   144
       Flail             |       |       |       |    95 ||    95
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |    18 |    37 |    28 ||    83
Throw: Stone             |     2 |       |       |       ||     2
       Javelin           |       |       |       |     5 ||     5
Invok: Berserk           |     3 |     3 |     8 |     2 ||    16
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
  Use: Scroll            |     5 |     5 |    16 |     5 ||    31
       Potion            |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |       |     3 |     1 ||     4
       Distracted        |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |     6 |    21 |    13 ||    43
       Meat ration       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Beef jerky        |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Bread ration      |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Pizza             |       |       |       |     2 ||     2



[celem]

Trog likes to gift thrown because you have a bit of skill in it (he would gift them regardless though). IIRC the first gift will always be ammo.

Dont get too hung up on picking your weapon. For hydras the DWhip freezing is probably best since it will slow them. If you really want to spend some Enchant Weapon scrolls then put them on the DWhip. It only needs 2 or so to become the best weapon you have on you.

If you just hit Lair 1 then dont worry about finding a hydra strategy, just skip them. I tend to kill all the hydras on my way back up the Lair after hitting 8. Nobody says you have to engage them straight away, and not many characters are suited/geared to do so at that point.

Its never too early to train Throwing. Like Unarmed throwing continues to get better with skill, theres not much of a dimishing returns point. And as an Og of Trog you should have access to plenty of large rocks in time. These are the best thrown weapon around. I'd probably start it early and run it high.

[Bloax]

Snakebite is a fixed artifact that causes curare on hit instead of plain venom, and it's very good even past vaults.

[MainiacJoe]

Here is my progress thus far. I've finished Lair 8 and am looking for the Orcish Mines. Nothing in Lair felt dangerous (is it bad karma to say that?). Now that I know what Snakebite really is, I'll be using it more especially in Orc and Elf.

I'm carrying the +3 shield around because if I get Abyssed I want to be able to swap out the Int-3 shield. I've also found a mundane large shield but it's in my stash right now.

  Code:

 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.16.1 (tiles) character file.

Joe the Warrior (Ogre Berserker)                   Turns: 25996, Time: 02:53:04

Health: 171/171    AC: 12    Str: 22    XL:     15   Next: 13%
Magic:  27/27      EV: 18    Int:  6    God:    Trog [******]
Gold:   913        SH: 18    Dex: 19    Spells: 0 memorised, 14 levels left

rFire  + + .     SeeInvis .     a - +4 demon whip (freeze)
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     D - +4 troll leather armour
rNeg   + . .     SustAb   .     M - +7 shield of Trumpets {rPois rN+ rCorr Int-3 Dex+3}
rPois  +         Gourm    +     z - +2 hat
rElec  +         Spirit   .     G - +0 cloak
rCorr  +         Warding  .     (gloves unavailable)
rMut   .         Stasis   .     (boots unavailable)
MR     +....                    Q - amulet of the gourmand
Stlth  ++........               u - ring "Motwomy" {rPois rF+}
                                O - ring "Skecuef" {rElec rF+ Str-4 Int+2 Dex+3}

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy
A: unfitting armour, tough skin 1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion


You are on level 11 of the Dungeon.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are very full.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 20 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth and Ice Cave.

You have collected 1558 gold pieces.
You have spent 645 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +4 demon whip of freezing (weapon)
 b - a +1 blowgun
 c - the +8 whip "Snakebite" {venom, rPois}
   (You took it off a kobold on level 7 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It poisons the flesh of those it strikes.
   
   It protects you from poison.
 d - the +9 flail "Neustr Oske" {flame, rElec rF- rN+ Str+3 Dex+3}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It has been specially enchanted to burn those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly
   susceptible opponents.
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It makes you vulnerable to fire.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It protects you from negative energy.
Missiles
 i - 8 silver javelins
 j - 4 poisoned javelins
 w - 2 steel javelins (quivered)
 B - 5 large rocks
 F - 7 needles of slowing
 I - 8 curare-tipped needles
 U - 102 poisoned needles
Armour
 z - a +2 hat (worn)
 D - a +4 troll leather armour (worn)
 G - a +0 cloak (worn)
 M - the +7 shield of Trumpets (worn) {rPois rN+ rCorr Int-3 Dex+3}
   (You acquired it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (-3).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It protects you from poison.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It protects you from acid and corrosion.
 N - the +3 shield of Hoaduequ {rCorr}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 10 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from acid and corrosion.
Rods
 K - a +6 rod of destruction (11/11)
   (You took it off a minotaur in a labyrinth)
 Z - a +5 rod of clouds (14/14)
   (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
Jewellery
 u - the ring "Motwomy" (right hand) {rPois rF+}
   (You found it in an ice cave)   
   
   [ring of protection from fire]
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from poison.
 O - the ring "Skecuef" (left hand) {rElec rF+ Str-4 Int+2 Dex+3}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [ring of protection from fire]
   
   It affects your strength (-4).
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It protects you from fire.
   It insulates you from electricity.
 Q - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck)
 W - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation
Magical devices
 e - a wand of fireball (2)
 g - a wand of cold (5)
 l - a wand of enslavement (17)
 o - a wand of slowing (46)
 r - a wand of digging (14)
 v - a wand of draining
 C - a wand of lightning (8)
Scrolls
 f - 4 scrolls of remove curse
 h - 2 scrolls of recharging
 y - 6 scrolls of teleportation
 L - 3 scrolls of fear
 S - 2 scrolls of blinking
 Y - 3 scrolls of fog
Potions
 m - 4 potions of haste
 p - 3 potions of cancellation
 s - 3 potions of restore abilities
 x - a potion of heal wounds
 A - 3 potions of agility
 E - 4 potions of curing
 H - a potion of resistance
 X - 4 potions of might
Books
 n - a book of the Tempests   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Static Discharge             Conjuration/Air               3
    b - Lightning Bolt               Conjuration/Air               5
    c - Fireball                     Conjuration/Fire              5
    d - Tornado                      Air                           9
    e - Shatter                      Earth                         9
   
   
   Trog disapproves of the use of such an item.
 q - a book of the Warp   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Recall                       Summoning/Translocation       3
    b - Control Teleport             Charms/Translocation          4
    c - Force Lance                  Conjuration/Translocation     4
    d - Phase Shift                  Translocation                 5
    e - Warp Weapon                  Charms/Translocation          5
    f - Gell's Gravitas              Hexes/Translocation           5
    g - Summon Forest                Summoning/Translocation       5
   
   
   Trog disapproves of the use of such an item.
 t - the Handbook of Hexes
   (You found it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Corona                       Hexes                         1
    b - Enslavement                  Hexes                         4
    c - Darkness                     Hexes                         7
    d - Discord                      Hexes                         8
   
   
   Trog disapproves of the use of such an item.
 R - the Grimoire of Battle Magic
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Flame Tongue                 Conjuration/Fire              1
    b - Searing Ray                  Conjuration                   2
    c - Throw Frost                  Conjuration/Ice               2
    d - Iskenderun's Mystic Blast    Conjuration                   4
    e - Lightning Bolt               Conjuration/Air               5
    f - Bolt of Draining             Conjuration/Necromancy        5
   
   
   Trog disapproves of the use of such an item.
Comestibles
 k - 2 bread rations
 J - 5 chunks of flesh
 P - 6 meat rations


   Skills:
 * Level 16.5 Fighting
 - Level 14.0 Maces & Flails
 * Level 8.3 Throwing
 + Level 3.6 Armour
 * Level 12.4 Dodging
 - Level 2.3 Stealth
 + Level 6.9 Shields
 + Level 9.2 Evocations


You have 14 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (11/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7            Lair (8/8) D:10
  Swamp (0/5) Lair:4       Spider (0/5) Lair:6        Slime (0/6) Lair:8
   Orc: D:9-12     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Jiyva

Shops:
D:10 }*}[   D:11 :

Annotations:
D:5 exclusion: downstairs
D:10 exclusion: downstairs
Lair:3 exclusion: 2 oklob plants


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have tough skin (AC +1).


Message History

an arrow; a giant club
Things that are here:
3 arrows; a chain mail; a mace
There is an open door here.
There is an open door here.
Things that are here:
3 arrows; a chain mail; a mace
Things that are here:
an arrow; a giant club
Things that are here:
30 arrows; an uncursed shortbow
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a dagger; a robe; 5 arrows; a giant club; an arrow of flame
You see here 4 arrows.
Items here: ( ) [ ÷
a ring mail; an uncursed shortbow; 13 arrows; an orc skeleton
Things that are here:
a club; 2 arrows
Found a stone staircase leading down.
Saving game... please wait.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Rupert (Lair:5)
  Snorg (Lair:4)
  A minotaur (Lab)
  6 hydras
  An ice dragon (Lair:6)
  A catoblepas (Lair:8)
  6 death yaks
  A centaur warrior (D:8)
  A deep troll shaman (Lair:8)
  A fire crab (Lair:7)
  An unseen horror (D:8)
  5 hill giants
  An ice statue (IceCv)
  A lindwurm (Lair:8)
  A griffon (Lair:8)
  12 elephants (Lair:8)
  21 spiny frogs
  A centaur skeleton (D:8)
  5 black mambas
  3 komodo dragons
  3 fire drakes
  2 trolls (D:10)
  26 polar bears
  A trapdoor spider zombie (D:11)
  4 trapdoor spiders (Lair:6)
  2 basilisks
  12 blink frogs
  2 deep elf magi
  40 yaks
  A wraith (D:8)
  11 hippogriffs
  Eustachio (D:5)
  6 wyverns (Lair:7)
  A human (D:8)
  31 wolves
  Edmund (D:8)
  15 water moccasins
  Menkaure (D:4)
  4 orc warriors
  12 porcupines
  3 sky beasts
  3 black bears
  2 ice beasts
  2 ogres
  A phantom (D:8)
  A boring beetle (Lair:6)
  An eye of draining (D:11)
  4 boggarts (D:11)
  19 crocodiles
  7 centaurs
  7 giant frogs
  2 big kobolds
  11 killer bees
  2 scorpions
  4 wights
  An electric eel (Lair:6)
  A crimson imp (D:10)
  2 giant frog zombies
  A goliath beetle (D:6)
  3 jellies (D:9)
  20 hounds
  6 iguanas
  2 giant frog skeletons
  5 orc priests
  10 orc wizards
  4 sheep (D:8)
  8 worker ants
  A hound zombie (D:5)
  A hound skeleton (D:6)
  3 mummies
  2 worker ant zombies
  49 river rats
  4 gnolls (D:5)
  13 adders
  2 shadow imps
  2 giant mites
  3 worms
  An adder zombie (D:8)
  5 giant geckos
  An ooze (D:3)
  27 orcs
  A bat skeleton (D:6)
  A bat zombie (D:5)
  14 giant cockroaches
  13 hobgoblins
  4 jackals (D:11)
  11 quokkas
  15 bats
  A giant gecko skeleton (D:7)
  5 giant newts
  2 giant spores (D:9)
  12 goblins
  A jackal zombie (D:8)
  15 kobolds
  2 quokka skeletons (D:4)
  13 rats
  3 ballistomycetes (D:9)
  3 fungi
609 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A frost giant (IceCv)
  Gastronok (Lair:3)
  An ugly thing (D:8)
  An eye of draining (D:11)
  A boggart (D:11)
  2 centaurs (D:11)
  A giant frog (D:11)
  An iguana (D:8)
  An orc (D:6)
10 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A polar bear (IceCv)
  A two-headed ogre (D:11)
  A wolf (IceCv)
  2 ogres
  3 bushes (Lair:8)
  5 fungi
13 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 632 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Joe, the Ogre Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 24/24 MP: 1/1
   248 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 14/32 MP: 2/2
   710 | D:1      | Acquired Trog's second power
   896 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 23/40 MP: 3/3
  1826 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 49/49 MP: 4/4
  2388 | D:3      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  2995 | D:4      | Noticed Menkaure
  3001 | D:4      | Killed Menkaure
  3001 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  3001 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  3001 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  3001 | D:4      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 57/57 MP: 5/5
  3390 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 47/66 MP: 6/6
  3761 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  3793 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  3848 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 72/72 MP: 7/7
  4160 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4679 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Fighting
  5086 | D:5      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  5104 | D:5      | Noticed Eustachio
  5114 | D:5      | Killed Eustachio
  5153 | D:5      | Acquired Trog's third power
  5439 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  5604 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 84/84 MP: 8/8
  6056 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  6204 | D:6      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  6767 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  7087 | D:7      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  7360 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  7373 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  7603 | D:7      | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
  7603 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 92/92 MP: 9/9
  8360 | D:7      | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
  8644 | D:8      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  8694 | D:8      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  8869 | D:8      | Noticed a green ugly thing
  8888 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  8894 | D:8      | Killed a green ugly thing
  9178 | D:8      | Noticed a centaur skeleton
  9180 | D:8      | Noticed a centaur warrior
  9191 | D:8      | Killed a centaur warrior
  9191 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 98/106 MP: 10/10
  9197 | D:8      | Killed a centaur skeleton
  9273 | D:8      | Got an ancient flail
  9274 | D:8      | Identified the +9 flail "Neustr Oske" {flame, rElec rF- rN+ Str+3 Dex+3} (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
  9292 | D:8      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  9330 | D:8      | Killed an unseen horror
  9330 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
  9429 | D:8      | Identified the Grimoire of Battle Magic
  9592 | D:8      | Received a gift from Trog
  9596 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
  9737 | D:8      | Noticed Edmund
  9745 | D:8      | Killed Edmund
 10106 | D:8      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
 10106 | D:8      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 10107 | D:8      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
 11438 | D:9      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 11471 | D:9      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 11640 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 11784 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 11795 | D:10     | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
 11815 | D:10     | Found Istriskocwo's General Store.
 11827 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 97/120 MP: 11/11
 11871 | D:10     | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
 11998 | D:10     | Found Praegh's Gadget Boutique.
 12007 | D:10     | Bought a wand of lightning (8) for 132 gold pieces
 12309 | D:10     | Found Qiuruir's Gadget Shoppe.
 12319 | D:10     | Found Efeg Era's Antique Armour Boutique.
 12327 | D:10     | Bought a scorched shield for 285 gold pieces
 12338 | D:10     | Identified the +3 shield of Hoaduequ {rCorr} (You bought it in a shop on level 10 of the Dungeon)
 12429 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 12436 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 12799 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 12807 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Trog
 12807 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 12969 | Lair:1   | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 12976 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 13820 | Lab      | Noticed a minotaur
 13831 | Lab      | Killed a minotaur
 14008 | Lair:1   | Identified a +6 rod of destruction (11/11) (You took it off a minotaur in a labyrinth)
 15842 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 79/133 MP: 18/18
 16364 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Trog
 16562 | Lair:3   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 16569 | Lair:3   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 16569 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 13 in Fighting
 16690 | Lair:3   | Noticed Gastronok
 16697 | Lair:3   | Killed Gastronok
 17096 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 17102 | Lair:4   | Noticed a death yak
 17105 | Lair:4   | Noticed a death yak
 17105 | Lair:4   | Noticed a death yak
 17118 | Lair:3   | Killed a death yak
 17118 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 17158 | Lair:4   | Killed a death yak
 17158 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing
 17158 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 17166 | Lair:4   | Killed a death yak
 17551 | Lair:4   | Noticed Snorg
 17567 | Lair:4   | Killed Snorg
 17685 | Lair:4   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 17694 | Lair:4   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 18071 | Lair:5   | Noticed Rupert
 18084 | Lair:5   | Killed Rupert
 18084 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Trog
 18084 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 14 in Fighting
 18084 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 146/146 MP: 22/22
 18175 | Lair:5   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 18176 | Lair:5   | Got a brightly glowing shield
 18187 | Lair:5   | Identified the +7 shield of Trumpets {rPois rN+ rCorr Int-3 Dex+3} (You acquired it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
 18332 | Lair:5   | Got an ancient granite ring
 18338 | Lair:5   | Identified the ring "Skecuef" {rElec rF+ Str-4 Int+2 Dex+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
 19147 | Lair:6   | Found a frozen archway.
 19199 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 19655 | IceCv    | Got a scintillating bone ring
 19659 | IceCv    | Identified the ring "Motwomy" {rPois rF+} (You found it in an ice cave)
 20006 | IceCv    | Received a gift from Trog
 20215 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 20243 | IceCv    | Noticed a frost giant
 20246 | IceCv    | Killed a frost giant
 21142 | Lair:6   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 21156 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 159/159 MP: 25/25
 21741 | Lair:7   | Identified the Handbook of Hexes
 21895 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Trog
 22063 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Trog
 22385 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Trog
 23113 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 23464 | Lair:8   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 23464 | Lair:8   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 23798 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 24021 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 16 in Fighting
 24422 | Lair:8   | Identified a +5 rod of clouds (14/14) (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 24969 | D:11     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 169/171 MP: 27/27
 25080 | D:11     | Received a gift from Trog
 25483 | D:11     | Found Xido's Book Emporium.
 25550 | D:10     | Bought a wand of enslavement (17) for 228 gold pieces


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Mace              |   107 |    91 |    90 |       |       ||   288
       Morningstar       |       |       |   167 |    48 |       ||   215
       Whip              |       |       |    64 |   115 |    10 ||   189
       Flail             |       |       |       |   363 |   259 ||   622
       Demon whip        |       |       |       |       |   698 ||   698
       Unarmed           |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |    18 |    37 |    93 |    36 ||   184
Throw: Stone             |     2 |       |       |     2 |       ||     4
       Javelin           |       |       |       |    31 |    24 ||    55
       Tomahawk          |       |       |       |     2 |     8 ||    10
Invok: Berserk           |     3 |     3 |     8 |     5 |     5 ||    24
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |     2 |     4 |     2 ||     8
       Burn Spellbooks   |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Trog's Hand       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |     2 |     2 ||     4
       Rod               |       |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
  Use: Scroll            |     5 |     5 |    16 |    14 |    12 ||    52
       Potion            |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     2
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |       |     3 |     9 |     8 ||    20
       Distracted        |       |       |     1 |     1 |     2 ||     4
       Fleeing           |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |     6 |    21 |    35 |    31 ||    96
       Meat ration       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Beef jerky        |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Bread ration      |       |       |     1 |       |     1 ||     2
       Pizza             |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
       Fruit             |       |       |       |     4 |       ||     4
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1



[MainiacJoe]

Lerny got me. It was another case of having a plan to handle him, but he shows up during a preliminary fight and I can;t execute the plan, and then panic (the Royal Jelly did this to me too once).