CiP : OpAs^Trog, share weaponry

[mopl]

This character is both fun and easy to play.

Trog allows easy skilling, I almost trained all my skills together through Lair, Orc and rune branches. Now that needles are reliable, even hard monsters become cheesecake I didn't suspect this build could be so powerful.

I don't know how "worse" are qblades compared to daggers for stabbing. What weapon would you use as default ? I like Wayjela for Stealth bonus and MR, I feel like Am is never needed...

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 a - a +9 quick blade of piercing (weapon)
 n - a +4 rapier of electrocution
 u - a +7 antimagic quick blade
 D - the +7 dagger "Goucubagg" {antimagic, rElec rPois+ rC+ Str+3 Int-5}
 F - the +5 rapier "Kaenirch" {drain, rN++ Dex+3}
 J - the +6 dagger "Wayjela" {speed, +Fly rPois+ MR+ Str+2 Stlth+}

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.16-a0-3911-g06eb01e (webtiles) character file.

mopl the Imperceptible (Octopode Assassin)         Turns: 60531, Time: 05:22:00

Health: 157/157    AC:  1    Str: 14    XL:     22   Next: 32%
Magic:  36/36      EV: 33    Int: 22    God:    Trog [******]
Gold:   3629       SH: 10    Dex: 25    Spells: 0 memorised, 21 levels left

rFire  + + +     SeeInvis +     a - +9 quick blade (pierce)
rCold  + . .     Clarity  .     h - +3 buckler {rF+}
rNeg   + . .     SustAb   .     (helmet restricted)
rPois  +         Gourm    .     L - amulet of regeneration
rElec  .         Spirit   .     t - +2 ring of dexterity
rCorr  .         Warding  .     z - ring of protection from cold
rMut   .         Stasis   .     C - ring of poison resistance
MR     ++...                    K - ring of Feijaega {Contam +Inv rF+ rN+ Int+5}
Stlth  ++++++++++               U - ring of protection from magic
                                S - +3 ring of evasion
                                R - +3 ring of strength
                                Z - ring "Pheadoxt" {rF+ Int+4 SInv}

@: very resistant to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy
A: almost no armour, amphibious, 8 rings, constrict 8, camouflage 1, gelatinous
body 1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion,
Evoke Invisibility
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer


You are on level 4 of the Vaults.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 8 branches of the dungeon, and seen 45 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Ice Cave and Wizlab.

You have collected 5606 gold pieces.
You have spent 1977 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +9 quick blade of piercing (weapon)
 b - a +9 blowgun
 n - a +4 rapier of electrocution
 u - a +7 antimagic quick blade
 D - the +7 dagger "Goucubagg" {antimagic, rElec rPois+ rC+ Str+3 Int-5}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Swamp)   
   
   It disrupts the flow of magical energy around spellcasters and certain
   magical creatures (including the wielder).
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your intelligence (-5).
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It protects you from poison.
 F - the +5 rapier "Kaenirch" {drain, rN++ Dex+3}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Vaults)   
   
   A truly terrible weapon, it drains the life of those it strikes.
   
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It greatly protects you from negative energy.
 J - the +6 dagger "Wayjela" {speed, +Fly rPois+ MR+ Str+2 Stlth+}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Vaults)   
   
   Attacks with this weapon are significantly faster.
   
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you fly.
   It makes you more stealthy.
Missiles
 e - 52 poisoned needles
 f - 33 curare-tipped needles
 k - 8 needles of frenzy
 s - 7 needles of sleeping
 G - 17 needles of confusion
 H - 22 javelins of penetration
 M - 5 tomahawks of dispersal
 V - 7 throwing nets
 W - 10 tomahawks (quivered)
Armour
 h - a +3 buckler of fire resistance (worn)
Rods
 c - a +7 rod of clouds (13/13)
   (You found it in a labyrinth)
Jewellery
 q - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation
 t - a +2 ring of dexterity (left tentacle)
 w - an uncursed ring of teleport control
 z - a ring of protection from cold (right tentacle)
 B - the amulet "Yramum" {Ward rF- rN+ MR+ Slay+2}
   (You acquired it on level 3 of the Spider Nest)   
   
   [amulet of warding]
   
   It may prevent the melee attacks of summoned creatures.
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+2).
   It makes you vulnerable to fire.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 C - a ring of poison resistance (on tentacle)
 K - the ring of Feijaega (on tentacle) {Contam +Inv rF+ rN+ Int+5}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   [ring of invisibility]
   
   It affects your intelligence (+5).
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It lets you turn invisible.
   It causes magical contamination when unequipped.
 L - an amulet of regeneration (around mantle)
 R - a +3 ring of strength (on tentacle)
 S - a +3 ring of evasion (on tentacle)
 U - a ring of protection from magic (on tentacle)
 Z - the ring "Pheadoxt" (on tentacle) {rF+ Int+4 SInv}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of protection from fire]
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It protects you from fire.
   It enhances your eyesight.
Magical devices
 Q - a wand of digging (5)
Scrolls
 o - 3 scrolls of fog
 p - 6 scrolls of magic mapping
 x - 2 scrolls of blinking
 y - 19 scrolls of remove curse
 E - 12 scrolls of teleportation
 N - 2 scrolls of fear
 P - 3 scrolls of silence
Potions
 d - 9 potions of agility
 j - 10 potions of heal wounds
 m - 10 potions of ambrosia
 v - 5 potions of might
 A - 7 potions of curing
 O - 2 potions of resistance
 T - 4 potions of haste
 X - 2 potions of cancellation
Miscellaneous
 i - a lamp of fire
 l - a stone of tremors
 r - a plain deck of escape {drawn: 5}
 I - a lantern of shadows
 Y - a box of beasts {used: 5}
Comestibles
 g - 12 bread rations


   Skills:
 + Level 15.2 Fighting
 - Level 14.0 Short Blades
 * Level 20.2 Throwing
 - Level 16.0 Dodging
 + Level 22.2 Stealth
 - Level 5.0 Shields
 - Level 14.0 Evocations


You have 21 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (8/8) D:11
  Swamp (5/5) Lair:4       Spider (5/5) Lair:6        Slime (0/6) Lair:8
    Orc (4/4) D:10            Elf (3/3) Orc:4        Vaults (4/5) D:14
  Crypt (0/3) Vaults:3     Depths (0/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:11 [   Orc:4 =*%:   Vaults:2 *


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear most types of armour.
You are amphibious.
You can wear up to eight rings at the same time.
You can use your tentacles to constrict many enemies at once.
Your skin changes colour to match your surroundings (Stealth).
Your rubbery body absorbs attacks (AC +1).


Message History

G - 17 needles of confusion (gained 1)
e - 51 poisoned needles (gained 1); W - 8 tomahawks (gained 6)
There is an open door, spattered with blood here.
Items here: ( )) [ †
an arbalest; an uncursed falchion of slicing; 16 bolts of frost; a scale mail
a human corpse
You offer a prayer to Trog.
The human corpse is consumed in a column of flame.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
W - 9 tomahawks (gained 1)
There is an open door, spattered with blood here.
Items here: ( )) [
an arbalest; an uncursed falchion of slicing; 16 bolts of frost; a scale mail
e - 52 poisoned needles (gained 1)
W - 10 tomahawks (gained 1)
Done exploring.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.

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[kroki]

much worse. only daggers get flat damage bonus to stab, and its a huge one. id macro "wa" to 1 and "wJ" to 2 and switch between them

[Lyrick]

All short blades are eligible for the flat bonus damage. Daggers just reach the cap much more easily.

Even so, with reasonable stealth + weapon skill it doesn't matter what shortblade you use.

[tasonir]

It's long blades which can never replace a short blade in terms of stabbing. Rapiers/quickblades (or even short blades, but they're outclassed) could replace a dagger eventually, it just requires reasonably high stealth + short blades skill (and I think dex?) to make it worth it. And all you really gain is an inventory slot and some convenience - keeping the dagger isn't too hard.

[bel]

much worse. only daggers get flat damage bonus to stab, and its a huge one. id macro "wa" to 1 and "wJ" to 2 and switch between them

By the way, if someone didn't know this: you can adjust item letters to "a" and "b" and the single quote ( ' ) key will toggle between them. Just keep a dagger and short blade as "a" and "b".

Generally, I never noticed much difference on stabbing common monsters between the two. Sleeping monsters die in one hit in any case, with decent stealth and short blade skill. Hard monsters might require a dagger.

[mopl]

Just found Zonguldrok sword?

Would you consider it ?