CIP: DECj

Tuesday, 30th December 2014, 19:48 by albondingas

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15.2 (tiles) character file. Gummo the Anointer (Deep Elf Conjurer) Turns: 34505, Time: 02:19:42 HP 72/72 AC 10 Str 5 XL: 15 Next: 2% MP 29/39 EV 15 Int 27 God: Vehumet [******] Gold 2587 SH 0 Dex 15 Spells: 8 memorised, 17 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis . a - staff of energy rCold . . . Clarity . D - +3 leather armour rNeg . . . rCorr . (no shield) rPois . rRot . E - +0 helmet rElec . Spirit . z - +0 cloak SustAb . Warding . n - +0 pair of gloves rMut + Stasis . C - +0 pair of boots Gourm . U - amulet of resist mutation MR +.... Y - ring of wizardry Q - +2 ring of evasion @: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy A: mutation resistance 1 a: Renounce Religion You are on level 4 of the Orcish Mines. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 28 of its levels. You have collected 2623 gold pieces. You have spent 36 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons b - the +7 war axe of Peril {chop, SInv} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts) It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies. It enhances your eyesight. v - the +9 great sword of Sin {slice, rElec rF+ Int+3} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies. It affects your intelligence (+3). It protects you from fire. It insulates you from electricity. Armour n - a +0 pair of gloves (worn) z - a +0 cloak (worn) C - a +0 pair of boots (worn) D - a +3 leather armour (worn) E - a +0 helmet (worn) Magical devices y - a wand of digging {zapped: 1} F - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 2} Comestibles l - 3 slices of pizza o - 9 beef jerkies s - 11 royal jellies t - 7 meat rations A - 2 bread rations K - 17 fruits Scrolls e - a scroll of immolation i - 8 scrolls of enchant weapon j - a scroll of recharging m - 7 scrolls of remove curse q - a scroll of magic mapping w - 2 scrolls of fear x - 4 scrolls of amnesia J - a scroll of identify N - 3 scrolls of enchant armour O - a scroll of vulnerability R - 2 scrolls of teleportation S - a scroll of brand weapon T - a scroll of summoning W - a scroll of holy word X - 2 scrolls of blinking Jewellery k - an uncursed ring of fire r - a +3 ring of strength B - an uncursed ring of positive energy I - an uncursed ring of teleport control P - an uncursed ring of protection from cold Q - a +2 ring of evasion (left hand) U - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck) Y - a ring of wizardry (right hand) Z - an uncursed ring of stealth Potions c - 3 potions of brilliance d - 2 potions of restore abilities f - 7 potions of curing g - 3 potions of haste h - 4 potions of heal wounds p - 3 potions of invisibility u - 3 potions of agility G - a potion of resistance H - 3 potions of might L - 2 potions of cancellation M - a potion of porridge Books V - a book of Minor Magic Spells Type Level *Magic Dart Conjuration 1 *Blink Translocation 2 Call Imp Summoning 2 Repel Missiles Charms/Air 2 Slow Hexes 2 Conjure Flame Conjuration/Fire 3 Mephitic Cloud Conjuration/Poison/Air 3 Magical staves a - an uncursed staff of energy (weapon) Skills: - Level 6.7 Dodging - Level 2.4 Stealth - Level 16.0 Spellcasting - Level 14.5 Conjurations - Level 16.4 Charms + Level 5.5 Translocations - Level 14.4 Fire Magic - Level 3.0 Evocations You have 17 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Magic Dart Conj #### 0% 1 None b - Iskenderun's Battles Conj/Chrm #######. 1% 5 None c - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj #######. 1% 4 None d - Throw Flame Conj/Fire ###### 0% 2 None e - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire #######... 1% 6 None f - Fulminant Prism Conj/Hex ######.... 1% 4 None g - Fireball Conj/Fire #######... 1% 5 None h - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (1/1) D:5 Orc (4/4) D:12 Elf (0/3) Orc:3 Lair (8/8) D:8 Shoals (0/5) Lair:3 Spider (0/5) Lair:3 Slime (0/6) Lair:8 Vaults: D:13-14 Depths: D:15 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Qazlal Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:4 * D:9 [ Orc:1 ! Annotations: Lair:7 Maud Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. Message History You conjure a globe of magical energy. Casting: Iskenderun's Battlesphere Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells. Aiming: Magic Dart Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f/p - orc Aim: an orc, wielding a hand axe and wearing a chain mail (severely wounded) The magic dart hits the orc. The orc is severely wounded. Your battlesphere fires! The barrage of energy hits the orc. You kill the orc! Vehumet accepts your kill. You feel your power returning. Saving game... please wait. Welcome back, Gummo the Deep Elf Conjurer. Vehumet says: Let it end in hellfire! Press ? for a list of commands and other information. Char dumped to 'C:/Users/James/AppData/Roaming/crawl/morgue/Gummo.txt'. Unknown command. Saving game... please wait. #........ ##....... #### ##........ . ##.... #......... ..##.....###.#...... ..................... .........######...##.# .........# #...#### .........+ #..## ....$.....######.## .....[.*@%...(...# ..........######## #.........# .....#....# ..#.###.... ## #[..## #...# ....# .... There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures 4 dire elephants (Lair:8) Snorg (Orc:2) Fannar (D:12) An anaconda (Lair:8) 4 hydras 2 death yaks (Lair:8) An orc high priest (Orc:3) Nergalle (Lair:5) An unseen horror (D:12) 3 hill giants Erolcha (Orc:3) An orc sorcerer (Orc:1) A wolf spider (Lair:7) 2 orc knights 3 griffons 5 oklob plants 4 ugly things 2 manticores A centaur zombie (D:11) 4 cyclopes 9 black mambas 2 gargoyles 13 spiny frogs 10 elephants A torpor snail (Lair:8) 3 centaur skeletons A feature mimic (Lair:6) Psyche (D:12) 2 kobold demonologists A tengu conjurer (D:14) 5 trolls 5 fire drakes 10 komodo dragons A hellwing (Orc:3) Grinder (D:4) 2 two-headed ogres 26 blink frogs A boulder beetle (Lair:8) 2 ravens (D:14) 43 yaks A basilisk (Lair:4) A deep elf mage (Orc:3) 2 wyverns Eustachio (D:6) A hill giant zombie (D:14) A shadow (D:15) Grum (Orc:2) 4 wolves 9 hippogriffs 2 wraiths 3 hungry ghosts A soldier ant (D:8) 4 wargs Menkaure (D:6) 3 nagas (Lair:6) 2 vampire mosquitoes (D:15) 2 mottled dragons The ghost of Absolute Moron the Magician, an average DECj (D:3) 19 water moccasins 3 sky beasts 13 orc warriors 3 phantoms 5 ice beasts A yellow wasp (D:8) 15 porcupines 8 ogres 2 black bears A boring beetle (Lair:8) 8 centaurs 16 crocodiles 19 giant frogs A scorpion (D:4) A yak zombie (D:9) 17 killer bees An electric eel (Lair:5) A troll zombie (D:8) An eye of draining (D:8) A yak skeleton (D:10) 15 wights A goliath beetle (D:8) 2 giant frog skeletons 5 crimson imps 4 jellies 15 orc priests A giant frog zombie (D:9) 11 hounds A quasit (D:8) 22 orc wizards 11 iguanas 14 worker ants A two-headed ogre skeleton (D:8) 24 sheep Ijyb (D:1) A mummy (D:7) 6 gnolls 39 green rats A scorpion zombie (D:8) An inept feature mimic (D:7) 27 adders 3 shadow imps 3 giant mites 5 orc skeletons 2 oozes 118 orcs 3 ball pythons 13 bats A bat skeleton (D:4) 5 giant cockroaches 24 goblins 20 hobgoblins 13 jackals 7 giant geckos A giant gecko skeleton (D:5) 7 giant newts A giant spore (D:12) A jackal skeleton (D:8) 23 kobolds A kobold zombie (D:6) 2 orc zombies 15 quokkas A quokka skeleton (D:5) A quokka zombie (D:8) 11 rats A rat zombie (D:6) A spectral orc (D:9) 7 ballistomycetes 4 fungi (Lair:8) 4 plants 859 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) 19 fulminant prisms An orc (Orc:1) A giant spore (D:10) 13 fungi 7 plants 41 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 900 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Gummo, the Deep Elf Conjurer, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 5/5 227 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 6/8 652 | D:2 | Noticed Ijyb 760 | D:1 | Killed Ijyb 760 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 760 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 13/19 MP: 0/12 1017 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 6/15 1475 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 2387 | D:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 2430 | D:3 | Noticed a phantom 2441 | D:3 | Killed a phantom 2441 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Conjurations 2441 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 23/28 MP: 4/20 2448 | D:3 | Learned a level 5 spell: Iskenderun's Battlesphere 2453 | D:3 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast 2648 | D:3 | Noticed Absolute Moron's ghost (average DECj) 3324 | D:3 | Killed Absolute Moron's ghost 3324 | D:3 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 32/32 MP: 14/22 4188 | D:4 | Noticed Grinder 4248 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 4333 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting 4586 | D:4 | Killed Grinder 4586 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 16/25 4643 | D:4 | Found Kirrul's General Store. 4674 | D:4 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 36 gold pieces 4853 | D:4 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 4990 | D:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 5712 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 5772 | D:5 | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting 5824 | D:5 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 5846 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 5893 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 6170 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 6170 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 19/27 6896 | D:4 | Found Kirrul's General Store. 7036 | D:4 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 7321 | D:6 | Noticed Eustachio 7327 | D:6 | Killed Eustachio 7393 | D:6 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting 7419 | D:6 | Noticed Menkaure 7420 | D:6 | Killed Menkaure 8517 | D:5 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 8747 | D:7 | Acquired Vehumet's first power 8747 | D:7 | Offered knowledge of Sandblast by Vehumet. 9029 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 45/45 MP: 24/30 9114 | D:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 9948 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Throw Flame by Vehumet. 9960 | D:8 | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Flame 10246 | D:8 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 10494 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 10736 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 10737 | D:8 | Noticed a komodo dragon 10757 | D:8 | Killed a komodo dragon 11092 | D:8 | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal. 11099 | D:8 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 11132 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Conjure Flame by Vehumet. 11199 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 45/50 MP: 8/31 11867 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 11867 | Lair:1 | Noticed a black mamba 11872 | Lair:1 | Killed a black mamba 12469 | Lair:1 | Acquired Vehumet's second power 12738 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 12764 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 12874 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting 13105 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 13107 | Lair:2 | Offered knowledge of Inner Flame by Vehumet. 13181 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 38/54 MP: 3/33 13392 | Lair:2 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 13505 | Lair:2 | Killed a six-headed hydra 14120 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting 14320 | Lair:2 | Acquired Vehumet's third power 14738 | Lair:2 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Draining by Vehumet. 15548 | Lair:3 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 15670 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 53/59 MP: 18/35 15735 | Lair:3 | Got an encrusted ring mail 15746 | Lair:3 | Identified the +5 ring mail of Phanuom {Str-4 Dex+4} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 15928 | Lair:3 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 16543 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting 17144 | Lair:4 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Fire by Vehumet. 17688 | Lair:4 | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire 19250 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting 19445 | Lair:5 | Noticed Nergalle 19700 | Lair:5 | Gained mutation: You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. [potion of beneficial mutation] 19701 | Lair:5 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 19760 | Lair:5 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 63/63 MP: 13/37 20152 | Lair:5 | Killed Nergalle 20310 | Lair:6 | Offered knowledge of Ignite Poison by Vehumet. 20452 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 20463 | Lair:6 | the staircase to the Snake Pit was a mimic. 20629 | Lair:6 | Got a polished war axe 20630 | Lair:6 | Identified the +7 war axe of Peril {chop, SInv} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts) 20837 | Lair:6 | Learned a level 4 spell: Fulminant Prism 22692 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 23002 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 23008 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Charms 23009 | Lair:8 | Noticed Maud 24018 | Lair:8 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva. 24018 | Lair:8 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 24606 | Lair:8 | Got a crude great sword 24622 | Lair:8 | Identified the +9 great sword of Sin {slice, rElec rF+ Int+3} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) 25107 | Lair:8 | Noticed a dire elephant 25219 | Lair:8 | Killed a dire elephant 25293 | Lair:8 | Noticed a dire elephant 25293 | Lair:8 | Noticed a dire elephant 25302 | Lair:8 | Killed a dire elephant 25302 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 68/68 MP: 13/38 25304 | Lair:8 | Killed a dire elephant 25330 | Lair:8 | Identified the Reference Book on Hexes 25373 | Lair:8 | Noticed a dire elephant 25453 | Lair:8 | Noticed a dire elephant 25483 | Lair:8 | Killed a dire elephant 25903 | D:9 | Found Omude's Armour Shoppe. 26343 | D:9 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 26403 | D:9 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 26552 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 26730 | D:10 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 28557 | D:12 | You fall through a shaft for 3 floors! 28557 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 28626 | D:15 | Offered knowledge of Fireball by Vehumet. 28633 | D:15 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball 29027 | D:14 | Reached skill level 16 in Charms 29882 | D:14 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 30045 | D:14 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 30962 | D:12 | Offered knowledge of Freezing Cloud by Vehumet. 31044 | D:12 | Noticed Fannar 31047 | D:12 | Killed Fannar 31275 | D:12 | Noticed Psyche 31283 | D:12 | Killed Psyche 31283 | D:12 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations 31533 | D:12 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 32062 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 32062 | Orc:1 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 32772 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 33253 | Orc:2 | Noticed Grum 33253 | Orc:2 | Noticed Erolcha 33258 | Orc:3 | Killed Erolcha 33376 | Orc:2 | Killed Grum 33408 | Orc:2 | Noticed Snorg 33411 | Orc:2 | Killed Snorg 33411 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations 33411 | Orc:2 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 67/72 MP: 8/39 33527 | Orc:1 | Found Ryrya's Distillery. 33717 | Orc:1 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 34043 | Orc:2 | Offered knowledge of Iron Shot by Vehumet. 34460 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Staff | | | | 9 | 13 || 22 Cast: Magic Dart | 73 | 106 | 183 | 229 | 488 || 1079 Iskenderun's Myst | | 13 | 62 | 164 | 108 || 347 Iskenderun's Batt | | 1 | 41 | 93 | 175 || 310 Bolt of Fire | | | | 22 | 168 || 190 Fulminant Prism | | | | | 19 || 19 Fireball | | | | | 11 || 11 Blink | | | | | 2 || 2 Evoke: Staff of energy | | | 1 | | || 1 Wand | | | 1 | 8 | 7 || 16 Use: Scroll | | | 20 | 10 | 10 || 40 Potion | | | 1 | 6 | 1 || 8 Eat: Chunk | | 8 | 12 | 15 | 33 || 68 Bread ration | | 1 | 1 | 1 | || 3 Meat ration | | | 1 | 1 | 1 || 3 Beef jerky | | | | 1 | || 1 Pizza | | | | | 6 || 6

So how do you think this is going? Anything I should train/stop training? And I think I'm going to finish clearing Orc, but where shall I go then? Ideally I'd go to Snake but that's not an option.

Tuesday, 30th December 2014, 19:50 by Sar

Don't ignore Fighting.

Edit: you have scrolls of enchant armour, your gloves/boots/helmet are good targets. Also, that sword is pretty good.

Edit #2: your magic offence looks really good overall, your defences are not, I would focus on them and maybe melee skills.

Tuesday, 30th December 2014, 21:27 by ForkInBrain

albondingas wrote:So how do you think this is going? Anything I should train/stop training? And I think I'm going to finish clearing Orc, but where shall I go then? Ideally I'd go to Snake but that's not an option.

You look about as good as I did at XL 15 (I started a thread here about my char today too). I second the "don't ignore fighting" -- higher fighting gives you more HP, and I've had a few sub-10 HP "close calls" that would have been YASD had I not trained fighting. The pain is, DE has bad aptitude for it, so it is slow going. Similar for dodging, but DE has good aptitude there.

Mephitic Cloud -- useful, but gets less useful as monsters level up.
Repel Missiles can be useful in Shoals -- lots of things throw things at you there.

I have no experience with mele on a DECj; it is one of my open questions.

Wednesday, 31st December 2014, 12:25 by albondingas

OK I've started training fighting now, and it's making slow progress although my HP is creeping up. I've already been training dodging as that's my main form of defence.

So I've cleared all 15 levels of the main dungeon, all of the Lair, and all of Orc and now I'm not sure where to go. Maybe just do the first level of Elf? Maybe the second, too? Or avoid elf entirely and go to the shoals? Slime pits seem like a bad idea, and I won't last long in the spider's nest if I get poisoned.

Wednesday, 31st December 2014, 15:00 by Jarlyk

I wouldn't do Elf without more MR. Even if you're comfortable with being Banished, it's still annoying to wander the Abyss. Shoals is probably the best option if you don't have any rPois anywhere, though it helps to have a way to Fly if needed to avoid getting caught in a bad position. You can also easily wind up pincushioned with javelins, given your low defenses, so be very careful.

Wednesday, 31st December 2014, 17:19 by albondingas

YASD

I was making light work of everthing in the shoals, until I underestimated a snapping turtle. It's really annoying because I knew I should have tried to escape the situation much earlier than this.

Wednesday, 31st December 2014, 17:38 by ForkInBrain

albondingas wrote:YASD

I was making light work of everything in the shoals, until I underestimated a snapping turtle. It's really annoying because I knew I should have tried to escape the situation much earlier than this.

My condolences. :-)

Glass cannon mages make light work of everything until they don't. There is some chance that if you'd gotten fighting a little higher you'd have survived, but your self-diagnosed tactical error (hubris

) is the major thing. So far my DECj is still going and making his way through the vaults, but all my close calls so far are due to hubris.

Wednesday, 31st December 2014, 18:29 by Hurkyl

IMO, hubris is secondary; the primary cause is exhaustion. It's tedious to treat every fight as a life-or-death encounter; hubris gives us a way to rationalize not doing so.

Friday, 2nd January 2015, 17:45 by albondingas

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15.2 (tiles) character file. Boom the Eclecticist (Deep Elf Conjurer) Turns: 28027, Time: 02:13:23 HP 84/84 AC 19 Str 8 XL: 14 Next: 80% MP 17/38 EV 22 Int 26 God: Vehumet [*****.] Gold 819 SH 0 Dex 21 Spells: 7 memorised, 13 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis . a - staff of energy rCold . . . Clarity . J - +3 leather armour of Devotion {Str+1 Dex+3 Slay+5} rNeg . . . rCorr + (no shield) rPois . rRot . X - +2 helmet rElec . Spirit . o - +0 cloak SustAb . Warding . s - +2 pair of gloves rMut . Stasis . m - +1 pair of boots Gourm . E - amulet of resist corrosion MR +.... t - +3 ring of dexterity K - +4 ring of protection @: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy A: strong 1 a: Renounce Religion You are on level 12 of the Dungeon. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is extremely pleased with you. You are hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 21 of its levels. You have also visited: Sewer and Ice Cave. You have collected 1427 gold pieces. You have spent 608 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons b - a +5 whip of venom c - a +0 whip F - the -2 greatsling of Superiority {velocity, *Tele rElec rPois} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) Any stone fired from it inflicts extra damage. It insulates you from electricity. It protects you from poison. It causes random teleportation. L - a +0 quarterstaff of protection Armour m - a +1 pair of boots (worn) o - a +0 cloak (worn) s - a +2 pair of gloves (worn) J - the +3 leather armour of Devotion (worn) {Str+1 Dex+3 Slay+5} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) It affects your strength (+1). It affects your dexterity (+3). It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+5). N - a +0 swamp dragon armour X - a +2 helmet (worn) Magical devices n - a wand of confusion {zapped: 6} y - a wand of lightning {zapped: 1} M - a wand of lightning S - a wand of slowing {zapped: 2} T - a wand of digging {zapped: 1} Y - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 3} Comestibles e - 13 bread rations f - 5 beef jerkies g - 6 slices of pizza h - 2 royal jellies i - 15 fruits u - 9 meat rations Scrolls l - 2 scrolls of amnesia w - a scroll of blinking B - 3 scrolls of fear I - 2 scrolls of identify Q - a scroll of remove curse R - 11 scrolls of teleportation W - 3 scrolls of recharging Z - 3 scrolls of magic mapping Jewellery d - an uncursed ring of magical power p - an uncursed ring of protection from cold t - a +3 ring of dexterity (right hand) D - an uncursed ring of stealth E - an amulet of resist corrosion (around neck) G - an uncursed ring of poison resistance K - a +4 ring of protection (left hand) V - an uncursed ring of flight Potions j - 3 potions of agility k - a potion of porridge q - 6 potions of brilliance r - 11 potions of curing v - a potion of might x - a potion of magic z - 4 potions of heal wounds A - 3 potions of restore abilities C - 3 potions of invisibility H - 2 potions of berserk rage O - 2 potions of haste P - 2 potions of cancellation U - a potion of resistance Magical staves a - an uncursed staff of energy (weapon) Skills: + Level 8.4 Fighting + Level 12.3 Dodging - Level 2.4 Stealth + Level 15.5 Spellcasting + Level 13.6 Conjurations - Level 15.0 Charms + Level 10.3 Fire Magic You have 13 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Magic Dart Conj #### 0% 1 None b - Iskenderun's Battles Conj/Chrm #######. 1% 5 None c - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj ######.. 1% 4 None d - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire ######.. 1% 3 None e - Ignite Poison Fire/Trmt #####..... 2% 5 None f - Orb of Destruction Conj ######.... 2% 7 None g - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire ######.... 1% 6 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (12/15) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (0/4) D:9 Lair (8/8) D:11 Shoals (0/5) Lair:6 Snake (0/5) Lair:4 Slime (0/6) Lair:7 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Qazlal Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Beogh Lugonu Shops: D:5 ( D:7 ! Annotations: D:3 Butt Ass' ghost, average TrCK D:11 exclusions: ice statue and silver statue Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations Your muscles are strong. (Str +2) Message History Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - orc wizard Aim: an orc wizard, wielding a falchion and wearing a robe (hasn't noticed you) The orb of energy hits the orc wizard. The orc wizard is almost dead. Your battlesphere fires! The barrage of energy hits the orc wizard. You kill the orc wizard! Vehumet accepts your kill. Things that are here: a falchion; a robe; an orc corpse You swap places. You are feeling hungry. You see here a club. You swap places. Done exploring. Done exploring. Done exploring. Done exploring. Char dumped to 'C:/Users/James/AppData/Roaming/crawl/morgue/Boom.txt'. Saving game... please wait. ### ########## #@## ##..##...## ##*###.######... #.....# ##.. #....## ##... ##....## ##...# # #.....)####...## # ##).##).)##...## # ##.#####.)...)## # # ##.## #.....## ## ###.## ##....# ##. ##..## ##....###.. There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures Maud (Lair:3) Gastronok (Lair:3) 8 hydras Erica (D:11) 15 death yaks 2 catoblepae A fire crab (Lair:6) 2 hill giants (D:10) 2 griffons 3 wolf spiders (Lair:8) 2 red wasps (Lair:8) A cyclops (D:12) An ugly thing (D:11) 14 elephants 12 black mambas A guardian serpent (Lair:8) 14 spiny frogs 4 komodo dragons 2 fire drakes (Lair:7) A hydra zombie (D:11) A kobold demonologist (Sewer) Grinder (Sewer) A polar bear (Lair:8) A two-headed ogre (D:8) Sonja (D:12) 2 boulder beetles Prince Ribbit (D:7) 5 blink frogs (Lair:7) 7 slime creatures A trapdoor spider (D:12) The ghost of Dog Poop the Ruinous, an average DECj of Vehumet (D:5) 2 wyverns 6 basilisks 35 yaks 2 deep elf magi A spriggan (D:8) 2 shadows 8 hippogriffs 2 vampire mosquitoes (D:10) 2 nagas (Lair:4) 17 wolves A hungry ghost (D:10) An orc warrior (D:12) 8 ice beasts 21 water moccasins 6 spiders (Lair:8) 13 porcupines A black bear (D:8) 4 phantoms A swamp drake (D:11) 2 sky beasts A necrophage (D:12) A boggart (D:9) A yellow wasp (Lair:8) 3 boring beetles 6 centaurs An ogre (D:4) Duvessa (D:8) 17 giant frogs 4 big kobolds 8 crocodiles Blork the orc (D:4) A hippogriff zombie (D:12) A scorpion (D:7) 3 electric eels Dowan (D:8) 8 orc priests An elf zombie (D:9) 6 crimson imps A jelly (Lair:7) 5 goliath beetles 7 hounds A giant frog skeleton (D:11) 11 orc wizards An elf skeleton (D:11) 14 iguanas A killer bee zombie (D:11) A two-headed ogre skeleton (D:9) 5 worker ants 44 sheep 5 big kobold zombies (Sewer) A hound skeleton (D:6) Terence (D:3) 11 gnolls 44 adders 100 green rats 5 shadow imps A steam dragon skeleton (D:11) 12 white imps (Lair:3) 5 giant mites 3 worms 3 ufetubi (Sewer) An orc zombie (D:6) 3 adder zombies (Sewer) 10 giant geckos 2 oozes (Sewer) 44 orcs 13 bats A bat skeleton (D:4) 4 giant cockroaches 13 hobgoblins 16 jackals 31 kobolds 11 quokkas 5 ball pythons A ball python zombie (D:4) 5 giant newts 2 giant spores 7 goblins A goblin zombie (D:5) A hobgoblin zombie (D:8) 2 kobold zombies An orc skeleton (D:10) A quokka skeleton (D:4) A quokka zombie (D:5) 18 rats 2 rat skeletons 2 ballistomycetes A butterfly (Lair:1) A fungus (Lair:5) 792 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A hippogriff (Lair:6) A porcupine (Lair:6) 5 sheep (Lair:6) An ooze (Sewer) 11 fungi 13 plants 32 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 824 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Boom, the Deep Elf Conjurer, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 5/5 259 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 3/8 862 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 9/12 1094 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 1564 | D:3 | Noticed a giant frog 1571 | D:3 | Killed a giant frog 1571 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 1571 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 7/24 MP: 13/17 1811 | D:3 | Noticed Butt Ass' ghost (average TrCK) 1888 | D:3 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast 1918 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 28/28 MP: 13/19 1925 | D:3 | Learned a level 5 spell: Iskenderun's Battlesphere 2067 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 2264 | D:2 | Reached skill level 6 in Conjurations 2463 | D:3 | Noticed Terence 2475 | D:3 | Killed Terence 2893 | D:3 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 3211 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 3216 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 3216 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 25/32 MP: 17/22 3223 | D:4 | Noticed a phantom 3241 | D:4 | Killed a phantom 3641 | D:4 | Noticed Blork the orc 3656 | D:4 | Killed Blork the orc 3656 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting 3656 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 20/36 MP: 9/25 3749 | D:4 | Found a glowing drain. 3776 | Sewer | Entered a sewer 4235 | Sewer | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 4461 | Sewer | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 4488 | Sewer | Noticed an apprentice kobold demonologist 4500 | Sewer | Killed an apprentice kobold demonologist 4500 | Sewer | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting 4662 | Sewer | Reached XP level 8. HP: 21/41 MP: 17/27 4750 | Sewer | Noticed Grinder 4774 | Sewer | Killed Grinder 5292 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 5537 | D:5 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting 5581 | D:5 | Noticed Dog Poop's ghost (average DECj) 5588 | D:5 | Killed Dog Poop's ghost 5695 | D:5 | Got a crystal greatsling 5696 | D:5 | Identified the cursed -2 greatsling of Superiority {velocity, *Tele rElec rPois} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 5738 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 5999 | D:5 | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal. 6029 | D:5 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 6152 | D:5 | Found Egoy's Weapon Boutique. 6808 | D:6 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 6832 | D:6 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 7523 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 7541 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 7565 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 7618 | D:7 | Noticed Prince Ribbit 7623 | D:7 | Killed Prince Ribbit 7623 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 48/48 MP: 11/29 8428 | D:7 | Found Cafug's Distillery. 8435 | D:7 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 48 gold pieces 8548 | D:7 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 8556 | D:7 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 8560 | D:7 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 8809 | D:8 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 8822 | D:8 | Noticed Duvessa 8827 | D:8 | Killed Duvessa 8828 | D:8 | Noticed Dowan 8831 | D:8 | Killed Dowan 9006 | D:8 | Acquired Vehumet's first power 9006 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Shock by Vehumet. 9041 | D:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 9091 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 10385 | D:9 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 10514 | D:9 | Offered knowledge of Sting by Vehumet. 10613 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 10796 | D:9 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 10828 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 37/56 MP: 18/31 11221 | D:9 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 11335 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 11537 | D:10 | Offered knowledge of Conjure Flame by Vehumet. 11542 | D:10 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 11754 | D:10 | Acquired Vehumet's second power 11797 | D:10 | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting 11797 | D:10 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 11800 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant 11868 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant 11868 | D:10 | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic 11956 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant 12015 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant 12015 | D:10 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 12783 | D:10 | Offered knowledge of Inner Flame by Vehumet. 12972 | D:11 | Noticed a cyan ugly thing 13043 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 13043 | D:11 | Noticed an elephant 13512 | D:11 | Noticed an ice statue 13512 | D:11 | Noticed a silver statue 13540 | D:11 | Killed a cyan ugly thing 13646 | D:11 | Killed an elephant 13816 | D:11 | Noticed Erica 13822 | D:11 | Killed Erica 13822 | D:11 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 53/62 MP: 23/33 13924 | D:11 | Acquired Vehumet's third power 14001 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 14024 | Lair:1 | Offered knowledge of Mephitic Cloud by Vehumet. 14391 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting 14396 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 15180 | Lair:2 | Noticed a catoblepas 15248 | Lair:2 | Killed a catoblepas 15414 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 15630 | Lair:2 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 15634 | Lair:2 | Killed a five-headed hydra 15634 | Lair:2 | Offered knowledge of Ignite Poison by Vehumet. 15910 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 5 spell: Ignite Poison 15987 | Lair:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 16109 | Lair:3 | Found a frozen archway. 16225 | IceCv | Entered an ice cave 16228 | IceCv | Reached XP level 12. HP: 68/68 MP: 0/35 16501 | Lair:3 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 16502 | Lair:3 | Noticed Maud 16525 | Lair:3 | Noticed Gastronok 16720 | Lair:3 | Killed Gastronok 16932 | Lair:3 | Killed an eight-headed hydra 16932 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting 17022 | Lair:3 | Killed Maud 17831 | Lair:4 | Offered knowledge of Lee's Rapid Deconstruction by Vehumet. 18112 | Lair:4 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 18223 | Lair:4 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 18227 | Lair:4 | Killed a six-headed hydra 18227 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 18890 | Lair:5 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 76/76 MP: 20/36 20132 | Lair:5 | Offered knowledge of Iron Shot by Vehumet. 20263 | Lair:4 | Gained mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably at your foes. [potion of mutation] 20263 | Lair:4 | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. [potion of mutation] 20263 | Lair:4 | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). [potion of mutation] 20264 | Lair:4 | Lost mutation: Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. [potion of cure mutation] 20264 | Lair:4 | Lost mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably at your foes. [potion of cure mutation] 20264 | Lair:4 | Lost mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). [potion of cure mutation] 20361 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting 21270 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 21739 | Lair:7 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 22210 | Lair:7 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 22663 | Lair:7 | Offered knowledge of Orb of Destruction by Vehumet. 22678 | Lair:7 | Learned a level 7 spell: Orb of Destruction 23259 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 23266 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 82/82 MP: 19/38 23711 | Lair:8 | Got a pitted leather armour 23727 | Lair:7 | Identified the +3 leather armour of Devotion {Str+1 Dex+3 Slay+5} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) 24544 | Lair:8 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 24760 | Lair:8 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Fire by Vehumet. 24768 | Lair:8 | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire 24821 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Charms 25122 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 25862 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 26891 | D:7 | Bought a potion of beneficial mutation for 560 gold pieces 26898 | D:7 | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong. (Str +2) [potion of beneficial mutation] 27406 | D:12 | Noticed Sonja 27449 | D:12 | Killed Sonja Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Dagger | 6 | | | 2 | || 8 Whip | 8 | 21 | 33 | 2 | 41 || 105 Halberd | | | 12 | | || 12 Cast: Magic Dart | 74 | 90 | 361 | 339 | 150 || 1014 Iskenderun's Myst | | 9 | 46 | 182 | 334 || 571 Iskenderun's Batt | | 2 | 40 | 103 | 89 || 234 Conjure Flame | | | | 7 | 3 || 10 Ignite Poison | | | | | 50 || 50 Bolt of Fire | | | | | 9 || 9 Orb of Destructio | | | | | 2 || 2 Evoke: Wand | 2 | 3 | 3 | 24 | 9 || 41 Sack of spiders | | | | | 1 || 1 Use: Scroll | 3 | | 17 | 19 | 10 || 49 Potion | | 1 | | | 4 || 5 Eat: Chunk | 1 | 8 | 19 | 23 | 12 || 63 Bread ration | | | 1 | 1 | || 2 Meat ration | | | 1 | | 3 || 4 Pizza | | | | | 1 || 1 Fruit | | | | | 1 || 1

I'm trying again and this time I've trained fighting and dodging from the start so hopefully I'll be more well rounded this time.

Ignite poison is great for when there are a few poison enemies nearby... I sort of wish the spider's nest was in this game but nevermind.

Should I train evocations so I can get more use out of wands etc?

And should I just ditch the swamp dragon armour? I thought if I held onto it then I might train some armour later and get some use out of it... but given that I have a ring of poison resistance, am I going to get any extra benefit from it?

Friday, 2nd January 2015, 18:19 by Sar

It's either Spider or Snake and snake does have plenty of susceptible enemies (not all of them, though).

Friday, 2nd January 2015, 18:52 by ThreeInvisibleDucks

albondingas wrote:I'm trying again and this time I've trained fighting and dodging from the start so hopefully I'll be more well rounded this time.

That's always a good idea.

albondingas wrote:Should I train evocations so I can get more use out of wands etc?

Given you have all the firepower you'll need to get the Lair runes I'd train Evocations soon to at least 10. This increases your chance of success of channeling with your staff of energy. Eventually I'd raise it even higher to get more mileage out of the elemental evocables you'll probably find, especially the lamps of fire and phials of floods. Later in the game high Evoc and a crystal ball of energy is the fastest way to regain mana in a hurry. For a spellcaster the wands are of secondary priority, IMHO.

albondingas wrote:And should I just ditch the swamp dragon armour? I thought if I held onto it then I might train some armour later and get some use out of it... but given that I have a ring of poison resistance, am I going to get any extra benefit from it?

I'd stash it for now. Wearing it will lower your EV and raise the fail% of your spells unless you train Armour for quite a bit. IMO, one usually shouldn't sacrifice EV for AC with a pure spellcaster who tries to kill everything from a distance. Training some Armour is useful even with that leather armour as you'll get a couple of points of extra AC with a modest investment (Armour ~7 IIRC). That Dex+3 also helps a bit with your EV and Slay+5 is very nice if you ever need to poke some dudes in melee.

My DE casters try to kill most of the things with spells. With Dj's I always have battlesphere with me (or at least I always cast it once I spot a monster) and just zapping things with magic dart is usually enough to kill most of the dudes from distance. Combined with Vehumet's MP-for-kills makes it probably the most mana efficient way of killing dudes in the game, apart from well placed AOE spells like Fireball or bolts that kill several dudes in a single turn.

Having some sort of killstick is still useful for backup and slaying helps a lot. I usually carry an ego dagger or short sword for that. Finding a useful one is all but guaranteed in Orc. Later on I'll switch to a staff of {earth,fire,cold} based on my highest spell school when I find one.

Saturday, 3rd January 2015, 11:26 by albondingas

Thanks for all the advice so far!

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15.2 (tiles) character file. Boom the Eclecticist (Deep Elf Conjurer) Turns: 32054, Time: 02:41:05 HP 65/72 AC 16 Str 12 XL: 15 Next: 42% MP 3/35 EV 26 Int 23 God: Vehumet [*****.] Gold 391 SH 0 Dex 24 Spells: 7 memorised, 14 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + (no weapon) rCold . . . Rnd*Rage + J - +3 leather armour of Devotion {Str+1 Dex+3 Slay+5} rNeg . . . rCorr + (no shield) rPois . rRot . c - +0 helmet {SInv} rElec . Spirit . o - +0 cloak SustAb . Warding . s - +2 pair of gloves rMut . Rnd*Tele + H - +2 pair of boots of Surprise {Str+4 Dex+3} Gourm . E - amulet of resist corrosion MR +.... t - +3 ring of dexterity K - +4 ring of protection @: very slightly contaminated, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy A: berserk 1, deformed body, deterioration 1, dopey 2, frail 2, low mp 1, screaming 1, strong 1, teleportitis 1, no device heal 1, forlorn a: Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Abyss. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is extremely pleased with you. You are near starving. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 23 of its levels. You have visited the Abyss 1 time. You have visited 1 bazaar. You have also visited: Sewer and Ice Cave. You have collected 1832 gold pieces. You have spent 1441 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons b - a +5 whip of venom F - the -2 greatsling of Superiority {velocity, *Tele rElec rPois} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) Any stone fired from it inflicts extra damage. It insulates you from electricity. It protects you from poison. It causes random teleportation. L - a +0 quarterstaff of protection Armour c - a +0 helmet of see invisible (worn) o - a +0 cloak (worn) s - a +2 pair of gloves (worn) H - the +2 pair of boots of Surprise (worn) {Str+4 Dex+3} (You bought it in a shop on level 13 of the Dungeon) It affects your strength (+4). It affects your dexterity (+3). J - the +3 leather armour of Devotion (worn) {Str+1 Dex+3 Slay+5} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) It affects your strength (+1). It affects your dexterity (+3). It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+5). Magical devices n - a wand of confusion {zapped: 6} y - a wand of lightning {zapped: 1} N - a runed gold wand S - a wand of slowing {zapped: 2} T - a wand of digging {zapped: 1} Y - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 3} Comestibles e - 14 bread rations f - 4 beef jerkies g - 6 slices of pizza h - 2 royal jellies i - 14 fruits u - 11 meat rations Scrolls l - 3 scrolls of amnesia B - 4 scrolls of fear I - 3 scrolls of identify M - a scroll of enchant armour Q - 2 scrolls of remove curse R - 11 scrolls of teleportation W - 3 scrolls of recharging Z - 3 scrolls of magic mapping Jewellery d - an uncursed ring of magical power p - an uncursed ring of protection from cold t - a +3 ring of dexterity (right hand) w - a glowing agate ring D - an uncursed ring of stealth E - an amulet of resist corrosion (around neck) G - an uncursed ring of poison resistance K - a +4 ring of protection (left hand) V - an uncursed ring of flight X - a sapphire ring Potions j - 3 potions of agility k - 3 potions of porridge q - 6 potions of brilliance r - 13 potions of curing v - 2 potions of might x - a potion of magic z - 5 potions of heal wounds A - 4 potions of restore abilities C - 3 potions of invisibility O - 2 potions of haste P - 2 potions of cancellation U - a potion of resistance Magical staves a - an uncursed staff of energy m - a weird jewelled staff Skills: + Level 9.4 Fighting + Level 13.4 Dodging - Level 2.4 Stealth - Level 15.6 Spellcasting - Level 13.8 Conjurations - Level 15.0 Charms - Level 10.6 Fire Magic + Level 5.2 Evocations You have 14 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Magic Dart Conj #### 0% 1 None b - Iskenderun's Battles Conj/Chrm ######.. 1% 5 None c - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj ######.. 1% 4 None d - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire ######.. 1% 3 None e - Ignite Poison Fire/Trmt #####..... 3% 5 None f - Orb of Destruction Conj ######.... 3% 7 ######. g - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire ######.... 1% 6 ####... Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (14/15) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (0/4) D:9 Lair (8/8) D:11 Shoals (0/5) Lair:6 Snake (0/5) Lair:4 Slime (0/6) Lair:7 Vaults: D:13-14 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Qazlal Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Beogh Lugonu Shops: D:5 ( D:7 ! D:13 [ Annotations: D:3 Butt Ass' ghost, average TrCK D:11 exclusions: ice statue and silver statue Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations Your muscles are strong. (Str +2) [You tend to lose your temper in combat.] [Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.] [Your body is slowly deteriorating.] [You are very dopey. (Int -4)] [You are very frail (-20% HP).] [Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).] [You occasionally shout uncontrollably at your foes.] [Space occasionally distorts in your vicinity.] [Potions and wands are less effective at restoring your health.] [You have difficulty communicating with the divine.] Message History Aiming: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - spatial maelstrom Aim: a spatial maelstrom The orb of energy hits the spatial maelstrom. The spatial maelstrom is moderately damaged. Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) Okay, then. Char dumped to 'C:/Users/James/AppData/Roaming/crawl/morgue/Boom.txt'. Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) You feel better. The spatial maelstrom closely misses you. The spatial maelstrom completely misses you. The wretched star pulses with an eldritch light! Your system partially rejects artificial healing. Your body twists and deforms. You feel frail. Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) Okay, then. Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) Okay, then. Char dumped to 'C:/Users/James/AppData/Roaming/crawl/morgue/Boom.txt'. # .' . # ## ##.. ... ##. .... .#. #.. v..# ..## #..#.v# #.#.# # #..# ...## #.##v*####.˜.. ##.@.#.....˜˜.# #.#...#..*.#?˜#.. ....#.###.##.# ..#..###.####.# ####.. #.....## .. .#.## ...... ..... .. *##.#..# .. .#'..###. .# # # ##..##.# ..#.#. . ##.#########.. #. .... ### .# You can see a spatial maelstrom, a wretched star and 2 spatial vortices. Vanquished Creatures Maud (Lair:3) Gastronok (Lair:3) An ettin (D:14) 8 hydras An ogre mage (D:14) 4 centaur warriors A rakshasa (D:14) Erica (D:11) 15 death yaks 2 catoblepae A fire crab (Lair:6) 10 skeletal warriors A spatial maelstrom (Abyss:1) 2 unseen horrors (D:13) 3 hill giants 2 griffons 3 wolf spiders (Lair:8) 2 red wasps (Lair:8) 5 cyclopes 2 manticores (D:14) 2 ugly things A necromancer (D:14) 14 elephants A gargoyle (D:13) 12 black mambas A guardian serpent (Lair:8) 14 spiny frogs 4 komodo dragons An efreet (D:14) 2 fire drakes (Lair:7) An ancient zyme (Abyss:1) A hydra zombie (D:11) A kobold demonologist (Sewer) Grinder (Sewer) A polar bear (Lair:8) 3 two-headed ogres Sonja (D:12) 2 boulder beetles Prince Ribbit (D:7) 5 blink frogs (Lair:7) 7 slime creatures A trapdoor spider (D:12) The ghost of Dog Poop the Ruinous, an average DECj of Vehumet (D:5) 2 wyverns 6 basilisks 35 yaks 3 deep elf magi A spriggan (D:8) 2 shadows 8 hippogriffs 2 mottled dragons (D:13) 10 vampire mosquitoes 2 nagas (Lair:4) 17 wolves 2 hungry ghosts A hill giant skeleton (D:13) 3 orc warriors 8 ice beasts A human zombie (D:13) A small abomination (Abyss:1) 21 water moccasins 13 spiders 13 porcupines 2 black bears 4 phantoms A swamp drake (D:11) 2 sky beasts A necrophage (D:12) A boggart (D:9) 3 yellow wasps 4 boring beetles 10 centaurs An ogre (D:4) Duvessa (D:8) 18 giant frogs 4 big kobolds 8 crocodiles Blork the orc (D:4) A cyclops skeleton (D:14) A hippogriff zombie (D:12) A scorpion (D:7) 4 wights (D:13) 3 electric eels 4 killer bees (D:14) Dowan (D:8) 8 orc priests An elf zombie (D:9) 6 crimson imps A jelly (Lair:7) 5 goliath beetles 8 hounds A giant frog skeleton (D:11) 14 orc wizards An elf skeleton (D:11) 15 iguanas A killer bee zombie (D:11) A two-headed ogre skeleton (D:9) 5 worker ants 44 sheep 5 big kobold zombies (Sewer) A mottled dragon skeleton (D:14) A hound skeleton (D:6) Terence (D:3) 11 gnolls 44 adders 100 green rats 5 shadow imps A steam dragon skeleton (D:11) 12 white imps (Lair:3) 5 giant mites 3 worms 3 ufetubi (Sewer) An orc zombie (D:6) 3 adder zombies (Sewer) 10 giant geckos 2 oozes (Sewer) 52 orcs 13 bats A bat skeleton (D:4) 4 giant cockroaches 13 hobgoblins 16 jackals 31 kobolds 11 quokkas 5 ball pythons A ball python zombie (D:4) 5 giant newts 2 giant spores 7 goblins A goblin zombie (D:5) A hobgoblin zombie (D:8) 2 kobold zombies 2 orc skeletons A quokka skeleton (D:4) A quokka zombie (D:5) 18 rats 2 rat skeletons 2 ballistomycetes A butterfly (Lair:1) A fungus (Lair:5) 883 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A hippogriff (Lair:6) A porcupine (Lair:6) 5 sheep (Lair:6) An ooze (Sewer) 11 fungi 13 plants 32 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 915 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Boom, the Deep Elf Conjurer, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 5/5 259 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 3/8 862 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 9/12 1094 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 1564 | D:3 | Noticed a giant frog 1571 | D:3 | Killed a giant frog 1571 | D:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 1571 | D:3 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 7/24 MP: 13/17 1811 | D:3 | Noticed Butt Ass' ghost (average TrCK) 1888 | D:3 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast 1918 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 28/28 MP: 13/19 1925 | D:3 | Learned a level 5 spell: Iskenderun's Battlesphere 2067 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 2264 | D:2 | Reached skill level 6 in Conjurations 2463 | D:3 | Noticed Terence 2475 | D:3 | Killed Terence 2893 | D:3 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 3211 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 3216 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 3216 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 25/32 MP: 17/22 3223 | D:4 | Noticed a phantom 3241 | D:4 | Killed a phantom 3641 | D:4 | Noticed Blork the orc 3656 | D:4 | Killed Blork the orc 3656 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting 3656 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 20/36 MP: 9/25 3749 | D:4 | Found a glowing drain. 3776 | Sewer | Entered a sewer 4235 | Sewer | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 4461 | Sewer | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 4488 | Sewer | Noticed an apprentice kobold demonologist 4500 | Sewer | Killed an apprentice kobold demonologist 4500 | Sewer | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting 4662 | Sewer | Reached XP level 8. HP: 21/41 MP: 17/27 4750 | Sewer | Noticed Grinder 4774 | Sewer | Killed Grinder 5292 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 5537 | D:5 | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting 5581 | D:5 | Noticed Dog Poop's ghost (average DECj) 5588 | D:5 | Killed Dog Poop's ghost 5695 | D:5 | Got a crystal greatsling 5696 | D:5 | Identified the cursed -2 greatsling of Superiority {velocity, *Tele rElec rPois} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon) 5738 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 5999 | D:5 | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal. 6029 | D:5 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 6152 | D:5 | Found Egoy's Weapon Boutique. 6808 | D:6 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 6832 | D:6 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 7523 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 7541 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 7565 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 7618 | D:7 | Noticed Prince Ribbit 7623 | D:7 | Killed Prince Ribbit 7623 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 48/48 MP: 11/29 8428 | D:7 | Found Cafug's Distillery. 8435 | D:7 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 48 gold pieces 8548 | D:7 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 8556 | D:7 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 8560 | D:7 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 8809 | D:8 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 8822 | D:8 | Noticed Duvessa 8827 | D:8 | Killed Duvessa 8828 | D:8 | Noticed Dowan 8831 | D:8 | Killed Dowan 9006 | D:8 | Acquired Vehumet's first power 9006 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Shock by Vehumet. 9041 | D:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 9091 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 10385 | D:9 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 10514 | D:9 | Offered knowledge of Sting by Vehumet. 10613 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 10796 | D:9 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 10828 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 37/56 MP: 18/31 11221 | D:9 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 11335 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 11537 | D:10 | Offered knowledge of Conjure Flame by Vehumet. 11542 | D:10 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 11754 | D:10 | Acquired Vehumet's second power 11797 | D:10 | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting 11797 | D:10 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 11800 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant 11868 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant 11868 | D:10 | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic 11956 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant 12015 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant 12015 | D:10 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 12783 | D:10 | Offered knowledge of Inner Flame by Vehumet. 12972 | D:11 | Noticed a cyan ugly thing 13043 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 13043 | D:11 | Noticed an elephant 13512 | D:11 | Noticed an ice statue 13512 | D:11 | Noticed a silver statue 13540 | D:11 | Killed a cyan ugly thing 13646 | D:11 | Killed an elephant 13816 | D:11 | Noticed Erica 13822 | D:11 | Killed Erica 13822 | D:11 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 53/62 MP: 23/33 13924 | D:11 | Acquired Vehumet's third power 14001 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 14024 | Lair:1 | Offered knowledge of Mephitic Cloud by Vehumet. 14391 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting 14396 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 15180 | Lair:2 | Noticed a catoblepas 15248 | Lair:2 | Killed a catoblepas 15414 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 15630 | Lair:2 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 15634 | Lair:2 | Killed a five-headed hydra 15634 | Lair:2 | Offered knowledge of Ignite Poison by Vehumet. 15910 | Lair:3 | Learned a level 5 spell: Ignite Poison 15987 | Lair:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 16109 | Lair:3 | Found a frozen archway. 16225 | IceCv | Entered an ice cave 16228 | IceCv | Reached XP level 12. HP: 68/68 MP: 0/35 16501 | Lair:3 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 16502 | Lair:3 | Noticed Maud 16525 | Lair:3 | Noticed Gastronok 16720 | Lair:3 | Killed Gastronok 16932 | Lair:3 | Killed an eight-headed hydra 16932 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting 17022 | Lair:3 | Killed Maud 17831 | Lair:4 | Offered knowledge of Lee's Rapid Deconstruction by Vehumet. 18112 | Lair:4 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 18223 | Lair:4 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 18227 | Lair:4 | Killed a six-headed hydra 18227 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 18890 | Lair:5 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 76/76 MP: 20/36 20132 | Lair:5 | Offered knowledge of Iron Shot by Vehumet. 20263 | Lair:4 | Gained mutation: [You occasionally shout uncontrollably at your foes.] [potion of mutation] 20263 | Lair:4 | Gained mutation: [Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.] [potion of mutation] 20263 | Lair:4 | Gained mutation: [Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).] [potion of mutation] 20264 | Lair:4 | Lost mutation: [Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.] [potion of cure mutation] 20264 | Lair:4 | Lost mutation: [You occasionally shout uncontrollably at your foes.] [potion of cure mutation] 20264 | Lair:4 | Lost mutation: [Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).] [potion of cure mutation] 20361 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting 21270 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 21739 | Lair:7 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 22210 | Lair:7 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 22663 | Lair:7 | Offered knowledge of Orb of Destruction by Vehumet. 22678 | Lair:7 | Learned a level 7 spell: Orb of Destruction 23259 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 23266 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 82/82 MP: 19/38 23711 | Lair:8 | Got a pitted leather armour 23727 | Lair:7 | Identified the +3 leather armour of Devotion {Str+1 Dex+3 Slay+5} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) 24544 | Lair:8 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 24760 | Lair:8 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Fire by Vehumet. 24768 | Lair:8 | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire 24821 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Charms 25122 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 25862 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 26891 | D:7 | Bought a potion of beneficial mutation for 560 gold pieces 26898 | D:7 | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong. (Str +2) [potion of beneficial mutation] 27406 | D:12 | Noticed Sonja 27449 | D:12 | Killed Sonja 28673 | D:13 | Found Staes' Armour Shop. 28693 | D:13 | Bought a +0 helmet of see invisible for 184 gold pieces 28693 | D:13 | Bought the +2 pair of boots of Surprise {Str+4 Dex+3} for 579 gold pieces 28940 | D:13 | Offered knowledge of Freezing Cloud by Vehumet. 28940 | D:13 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 84/89 MP: 22/39 28950 | D:13 | Found a gateway to a bazaar. 28973 | D:13 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 29649 | Bazaar | Entered a bazaar 29664 | Bazaar | Found Orunok's Food Emporium. 29664 | Bazaar | Found Carchyum's Distillery. 29691 | Bazaar | Found Fugem's Magic Scroll Emporium. 29691 | Bazaar | Found Shrethryc's Armour Shoppe. 29712 | Bazaar | Found Veacris' Magic Scroll Emporium. 29712 | Bazaar | Found Pnu Jong's Book Shoppe. 29733 | Bazaar | Found Ariog's Food Emporium. 29812 | Bazaar | Bought a potion of curing for 20 gold pieces 29812 | Bazaar | Bought a potion of curing for 20 gold pieces 29812 | Bazaar | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 30 gold pieces 31439 | D:14 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 31871 | D:14 | Cast into the Abyss (a distortion unwield) Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Dagger | 6 | | | 2 | || 8 Whip | 8 | 21 | 33 | 2 | 42 || 106 Halberd | | | 12 | | || 12 Staff | | | | | 3 || 3 Cast: Magic Dart | 74 | 90 | 361 | 339 | 239 || 1103 Iskenderun's Myst | | 9 | 46 | 182 | 392 || 629 Iskenderun's Batt | | 2 | 40 | 103 | 134 || 279 Conjure Flame | | | | 7 | 10 || 17 Ignite Poison | | | | | 58 || 58 Bolt of Fire | | | | | 41 || 41 Orb of Destructio | | | | | 17 || 17 Evoke: Wand | 2 | 3 | 3 | 24 | 9 || 41 Sack of spiders | | | | | 1 || 1 Use: Scroll | 3 | | 17 | 19 | 11 || 50 Potion | | 1 | | | 5 || 6 Eat: Chunk | 1 | 8 | 19 | 23 | 20 || 71 Bread ration | | | 1 | 1 | || 2 Meat ration | | | 1 | | 3 || 4 Pizza | | | | | 2 || 2 Fruit | | | | | 2 || 2 Beef jerky | | | | | 1 || 1

So I wielded a glowing war axe, which turned out to be Distortion brand... I decided to drop it because although I knew there would be a chance I'd be cast into the abyss, I thought that it was only a small chance. Anyway, I'm now in the abyss and i'm in a pretty bad way... I've got a spatial maelstrom and a wretched star right up close to me, and I've got two spatial vortices close by, and I've got no idea how to get out of here. I've not actually taken much damage but the star is pretty much mutating me every turn. Any advice?

Saturday, 3rd January 2015, 14:32 by Pereza0

Abyss basically requires you to treat the game differently, avoiding confrontation and covering territory should be your maximum priority. Exits spawn randomly (which is why it is important to cover territory) or in random vaults

If you encounter something you can't escape (faster than you) and that you would have trouble killing its time to teleport.

In this situation I would do exactly that, either teleport if you feel endangered or try to walk away and hope the shifting nature of the abyss works in your favour. You should consider using haste too. Maybe try to kill easy enemies as you encounter them as it will eventually remove those temporal mutations, but don't take too long or make too much noise

Its a shame you have not trained stealth a bit more, but anyway, I have survived the Abyss as a lvl 10 so you should be able too as well.

That sling is also not a bad thing to wield as a caster, uncontrolled teleports are fine in the abyss and rElec comes handy against raijus

Saturday, 3rd January 2015, 16:48 by fisheye

Identify your stuff.

That +3 dex ring isn't really as helpful as some other stuff you have, for example your ring of magical power.

Abyss 1 is quite survivable as a level 15 caster. Just keep moving and breaking line of sight with things that pursue you, don't get surrounded or grabbed (tentacled, etc). You have 11 scrolls of teleportation, use them if needed.

Saturday, 3rd January 2015, 17:25 by Siegurt

The abyss makes teleportation take a long time, so if you do need a teleportation scroll, read it extra-early, then keep running until it goes off.

Sunday, 4th January 2015, 12:33 by albondingas

I died. I got grabbed by a big tentacle thing and there was just no escaping that. If I'd read a teleport scroll as soon as I saw the wretched star, or even earlier when I saw the spatial maelstrom then I might have lasted a bit longer, maybe even long enough to find an exit, but sadly I didn't recognise how dangerous the situation was until it was too late. Oh well, I know for next time.

I've started a new game on webtiles now and it's a CECj level 14.

Sunday, 4th January 2015, 20:22 by Siegurt

Unfortunately the problem with the Abyss is often "I didn't realize how dangerous the situation was until it was too late" between large numbers of monsters generating constantly, shifting walls, and delayed or inconvenient escape items, a situation can turn pear shaped well before you can actually see all of the problems reflected in the monsters surrounding you and your dropping health bar.

You almost have to be a little prescient (or just plain lucky) to escape from the Abyss at lower levels, because you can see a monster by itself that you know you can kill, but engaging it in combat can well be the decision that leads to your death.

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