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Mines Malingerer

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Joined: Tuesday, 14th October 2014, 09:24

Post Friday, 31st October 2014, 13:30

CIP Gargoyle fighter weapon choice

So I have a gargoyle fighter about to finish clearing the vaults and I'm wondering which weapon I should use. I have an artifact +8 demon whip with pain, noisy, and +fly which is useless. I have a +3 demon whip of draining, and a +2 evening star of draining. Note that I have enough enchant weapon scrolls stashed somewhere to enchant either of the non artifact weapons fully, and I will if I decide to use them. So which should I use? If I use the artifact should I put some exp into necromancy? If I use one of the non artifacts should I use scrolls of branding to try and get a more useful brand?

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.16-a0-1747-g5c352fd (webtiles) character file.

esran the Shatterer (Gargoyle Fighter)             Turns: 49353, Time: 05:48:24

Health: 146/146    AC: 45    Str: 24      XL:     22   Next: 63%
Magic:  30/30      EV: 13    Int:  9 (12) God:    Okawaru [******]
Gold:   5624       SH: 25    Dex: 17      Spells: 0 memorised, 21 levels left

rFire  + . .     SeeInvis +     g - +8 demon whip of Dishonesty {pain, Noisy +Fly}
rCold  + + +     Clarity  .     n - +6 chain mail "Vyzabbe" {rF+ Int-2 SInv}
rNeg   + . .     SustAb   .     F - +2 large shield {AC+3}
rPois  +         Gourm    .     o - +1 hat of the Orb {rC+ Str+2 Dex+1 Stlth+}
rElec  +         Spirit   .     K - +0 cloak
rCorr  .         Warding  .     M - +0 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Stasis   .     H - +0 pair of boots
MR     +....                    z - amulet of Doubts {Faith +Fly rC++}
Stlth  ..........               r - +7 ring of slaying
                                k - +5 ring of slaying

@: flying, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: able to fly continuously, antennae 1, big wings, clever 1, negative energy
resistance 1, shaggy fur 1, electricity resistance, spit poison 1, strong 1,
unbreathing, petrification resistance, rot immunity, AC +16
a: Spit Poison, Stop Flying, Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion
}: 2/15 runes: barnacled, gossamer


You are on level 5 of the Vaults.
You worship Okawaru.
Okawaru is exalted by your worship.
You are hungry.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 43 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 2 times.
You have visited 1 bazaar.
You have also visited: Labyrinth.

You have collected 6214 gold pieces.
You have spent 590 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 g - the +8 demon whip of Dishonesty (weapon) {pain, Noisy +Fly}
   (You took it off a tengu reaver on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   In the hands of one skilled in necromantic magic, it inflicts extra damage
   on living creatures.
   
   It lets you fly.
   It may make noises in combat.
 N - a +2 eveningstar of draining
 U - a +3 demon whip of draining
Missiles
 D - 32 poisoned javelins (quivered)
 L - 8 javelins of penetration
Armour
 n - the +6 chain mail "Vyzabbe" (worn) {rF+ Int-2 SInv}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (-2).
   It protects you from fire.
   It enhances your eyesight.
 o - the +1 hat of the Orb (worn) {rC+ Str+2 Dex+1 Stlth+}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 4 of the Spider Nest)   
   
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your dexterity (+1).
   It protects you from cold.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 F - a +2 large shield of protection (worn)
 H - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
 K - a +0 cloak (worn)
 M - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
Rods
 w - a +8 rod of shadows (9/9)
   (You found it in a labyrinth)
 Q - a +6 rod of inaccuracy (16/16)
   (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
Jewellery
 c - an uncursed amulet of clarity
 k - a +5 ring of slaying (left hand)
 r - a +7 ring of slaying (right hand)
 t - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
 z - the amulet of Doubts (around neck) {Faith +Fly rC++}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Shoals)   
   
   [amulet of faith]
   
   It allows you to gain divine favour quickly.
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It lets you fly.
 G - an uncursed amulet of warding
Magical devices
 a - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 3}
 B - a wand of cold
 I - a wand of fireball
 O - a wand of digging
 V - a wand of paralysis
 X - a wand of fire
 Y - a wand of hasting
Scrolls
 j - 13 scrolls of identify
 l - a scroll of magic mapping
 m - 2 scrolls of blinking
 p - 9 scrolls of fear
 q - 2 scrolls of brand weapon
 s - 9 scrolls of fog
 u - 13 scrolls of teleportation
 P - 2 scrolls of silence
 S - 7 scrolls of remove curse
 Z - a scroll of summoning
Potions
 b - 3 potions of berserk rage
 e - 8 potions of might
 f - 8 potions of heal wounds
 h - 4 potions of haste
 y - 4 potions of invisibility
 A - 3 potions of agility
 C - 20 potions of curing
 E - a potion of cure mutation
 R - 3 potions of resistance
 T - 3 potions of lignification
 W - 4 potions of restore abilities
Miscellaneous
 i - a lamp of fire
 J - a fan of gales
Comestibles
 d - 22 bread rations
 v - 9 meat rations
 x - a beef jerky


   Skills:
 + Level 17.9 Fighting
 + Level 21.4 Maces & Flails
 - Level 2.0 Throwing
 + Level 14.2 Armour
 + Level 12.6 Dodging
 + Level 20.1 Shields
 - Level 4.2 Invocations
 - Level 7.0 Evocations


You have 21 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:5             Orc (4/4) D:9
    Elf (0/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:10         Shoals (5/5) Lair:4
 Spider (5/5) Lair:6        Slime (0/6) Lair:8       Vaults (5/5) D:14
  Crypt (0/3) Vaults:2     Depths (0/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:5 *   D:11 }[   Orc:2 %   Orc:4 *(:   Shoals:3 *   Shoals:5 *   Vaults:1 *[(
Vaults:2 [   Vaults:3 =:


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
You are immune to poison.
You can fly continuously.
Your stone body is very resilient (AC +16).
Your wings are large and strong.
You resist negative energy.
You are resistant to electric shocks.
You can survive without breathing.
You are immune to petrification.
You are immune to rotting.
You have a pair of small antennae on your head.
Your mind is acute. (Int +2)
You are covered in fur (AC +1).
You can spit poison.
Your muscles are strong. (Str +2)


Message History

Things that are here:
a runed arbalest; 11 bolts of penetration
Things that are here:
a bolt of frost; 2 silver bolts
You see here a large rock.
Items here: )))) [[[
You start resting.
You start resting.
You are feeling hungry.
Eat which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
You see here a +2 hat of magic resistance.
Things that are here:
a silver bolt; a large rock
You start resting.
HP restored.
You are alive. You are flying. Your flying speed is average.
Your attack speed is very fast.
You are somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments.
You feel extremely unstealthy.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Sojobo (Vaults:4)
  A golden dragon (Vaults:5)
  A tentacled monstrosity (Vaults:5)
  A quicksilver dragon (Vaults:5)
  A tentacled starspawn (Abyss:1)
  A kraken (Shoals:5)
  A lich (Abyss:1)
  3 storm dragons
  2 shadow dragons (Vaults:5)
  2 azure jellies (Vaults:4)
  The ghost of Mad4God the Executioner, a powerful MiBe of Trog (Spider:1)
  A revenant (Abyss:1)
  2 tengu reavers
  Ilsuiw (Shoals:5)
  6 frost giants
  3 orc warlords
  3 fire giants
  5 ghost moths
  5 emperor scorpions
  Louise (Spider:4)
  14 vault wardens
  Jorgrun (Spider:2)
  A very ugly thing (Vaults:3)
  7 stone giants
  3 deep elf demonologists
  5 rakshasas
  Snorg (Lair:4)
  8 merfolk javelineers
  31 vault guards
  11 yaktaur captains
  4 deep elf death magi
  13 merfolk impalers
  An ettin (Vaults:4)
  16 ironheart preservers
  A minotaur (Lab)
  2 deep elf high priests (Vaults:5)
  4 great orbs of eyes
  An ice dragon (Vaults:2)
  10 hydras
  5 satyrs
  16 ogre magi
  5 deep troll shamans
  3 merfolk avatars
  8 merfolk aquamancers
  18 death yaks
  3 deep troll earth magi
  5 centaur warriors
  2 thrashing horrors (Abyss:1)
  Urug (D:14)
  2 tengu warriors
  6 orc high priests (Orc:4)
  7 deep elf knights
  Nergalle (Lair:8)
  4 catoblepae
  2 shadow wraiths
  2 wretched stars (Abyss:1)
  8 deep trolls
  3 unseen horrors
  A flayed ghost (Vaults:2)
  A giant orange brain (Vaults:4)
  11 sea snakes
  2 ice statues (Vaults:4)
  Pikel (D:6)
  2 deep elf conjurers
  A wolf spider zombie (D:14)
  A necromancer (Vaults:4)
  19 ironbrand convokers
  2 wizards
  11 hill giants
  8 cyclopes
  36 wolf spiders
  2 human zombies
  10 orb spiders
  14 orc knights
  24 ugly things
  8 orc sorcerers
  25 harpies
  A worldbinder (Abyss:1)
  A mana viper (Abyss:1)
  6 manticores
  13 fauns
  18 griffons
  A mana viper (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  An apocalypse crab (Abyss:1)
  An octopode (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  6 water nymphs
  A salamander (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  2 sixfirhies
  2 drowned souls (Shoals:3)
  9 red wasps
  17 elephants
  A smoke demon (Abyss:1)
  4 black mambas
  An orange demon (Abyss:1)
  8 sirens
  A naga mage (Vaults:4)
  11 vault sentinels
  2 torpor snails
  A centaur skeleton (D:12)
  14 komodo dragons
  13 demonic crawlers
  7 spiny frogs
  54 yaktaurs
  A hellwing (Abyss:1)
  2 fire drakes
  22 jumping spiders
  2 tengu conjurers
  A jumping spider (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  2 deep elf priests (Vaults:4)
  30 merfolk
  12 trolls
  A harpy skeleton (D:14)
  4 freezing wraiths
  20 two-headed ogres
  An anaconda simulacrum (Vaults:4)
  A hydra zombie (D:13)
  A tengu simulacrum (Vaults:1)
  3 boulder beetles
  A hydra skeleton (D:12)
  A baby alligator (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  2 wind drakes
  5 ravens
  10 blink frogs
  3 slime creatures
  9 spectral orcs (Lair:8)
  3 basilisks
  26 trapdoor spiders
  A flying skull (Abyss:1)
  11 snapping turtles
  15 water elementals
  3 small abominations (Abyss:1)
  2 wraiths
  A basilisk (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  3 shadows
  66 redbacks
  A spriggan (D:7)
  35 tarantellas
  6 deep elf magi
  A tarantella (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  3 wyverns
  60 yaks
  29 vampire mosquitoes
  A ynoxinul (Abyss:1)
  A chaos spawn (Abyss:1)
  3 neqoxecs (Abyss:1)
  A steam dragon (Lair:5)
  11 deep elf fighters
  A hog (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  10 hippogriffs
  2 hungry ghosts
  7 wolves
  2 harpy simulacra (Vaults:4)
  6 large abominations
  An ogre zombie (D:12)
  3 mottled dragons
  11 wargs
  9 porcupines
  2 sky beasts
  2 yellow wasps
  71 orc warriors
  3 slaves (D:6)
  A spatial vortex (Abyss:1)
  An eye of draining (D:13)
  14 water moccasins
  2 boggarts (Vaults:1)
  7 black bears
  15 spiders
  8 starcursed masses (Abyss:1)
  2 phantoms (D:4)
  An eye of draining (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  2 black mamba simulacra (Vaults:4)
  10 ice beasts
  66 ogres
  A snapping turtle skeleton (Abyss:1)
  A black bear (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  8 centaurs
  13 crocodiles
  2 vampire mosquito zombies (Vaults:1)
  Duvessa (D:8)
  4 boring beetles
  3 big kobolds
  2 lost souls
  A yaktaur zombie (D:15)
  A wyvern zombie (D:11)
  A gnoll sergeant (D:8)
  A cyclops zombie (D:13)
  17 giant frogs
  A warg zombie (Vaults:1)
  7 wights
  24 killer bees
  5 scorpions
  A yak skeleton (D:10)
  5 electric eels
  5 crimson imps
  2 centaur zombies
  Dowan (D:8)
  2 giant frog zombies
  2 jellies
  A yellow wasp zombie (D:9)
  18 hounds
  3 quasits (Abyss:1)
  5 iguanas
  2 two-headed ogre zombies (Vaults:1)
  48 orc priests
  A giant frog skeleton (D:11)
  40 orc wizards
  14 worker ants
  A two-headed ogre skeleton (D:10)
  2 troll simulacra (Vaults:4)
  20 sheep
  A mottled dragon zombie (D:12)
  A crocodile skeleton (D:13)
  A mottled dragon skeleton (D:10)
  13 gnolls
  A naga simulacrum (Vaults:4)
  19 adders
  96 green rats
  6 shadow imps
  A giant mite (D:5)
  A white imp (Abyss:1)
  A worm (D:3)
  4 ufetubi
  An adder zombie (D:6)
  An iguana zombie (D:9)
  2 orc zombies (Orc:4)
  4 giant geckos
  325 orcs
  A ball python (D:3)
  31 goblins
  18 hobgoblins
  17 jackals
  23 kobolds
  10 bats
  5 giant cockroaches
  6 giant newts
  A giant spore (D:10)
  2 jackal zombies (D:6)
  2 kobold skeletons
  2 orc skeletons
  7 quokkas
  12 rats
  6 ballistomycetes (D:10)
  2 butterflies (Lair:4)
  3 crawling corpses
  6 plants
2226 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A griffon (Shoals:5)
  2 red wasps (Spider:5)
  2 orb spiders (Spider:5)
  An ugly thing (Spider:5)
  A sixfirhy (Abyss:1)
  A torpor snail (Spider:5)
  A jumping spider (Spider:5)
  A large abomination (Abyss:1)
  3 tarantellas (Spider:5)
  An air elemental (Vaults:4)
  3 redbacks (Spider:5)
  A spider (Spider:5)
  A starcursed mass (Abyss:1)
  A boggart (Vaults:1)
  An ogre (Vaults:4)
21 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A tengu reaver (Vaults:4)
  A merfolk impaler (Shoals:5)
  A fire giant zombie (Vaults:4)
  An ugly thing (Abyss:1)
  11 drowned souls
  A yaktaur (Vaults:1)
  3 air elementals
  A fire elemental (Vaults:1)
  A two-headed ogre (Vaults:1)
  An orc warrior (Vaults:1)
  A human skeleton (Vaults:4)
  7 lost souls
  A human zombie (Vaults:4)
  A starcursed mass (Abyss:1)
  An orc priest (Vaults:1)
  An orc wizard (Orc:4)
  3 orcs (Vaults:4)
  A rat (Spider:4)
  A fungus (Lair:7)
  3 plants
  2 starspawn tentacles (Abyss:1)
  3 starspawn tentacle segments (Abyss:1)
  4 tentacles (Shoals:5)
51 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2298 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | esran, the Gargoyle Fighter, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 1/1
   189 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 19/19 MP: 2/2
   753 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 23/23 MP: 3/3
   840 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Maces & Flails
   995 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 28/28 MP: 4/4
  1264 | D:3      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  1329 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  1396 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 32/32 MP: 5/5
  1422 | D:3      | Noticed a sky beast
  1437 | D:3      | Killed a sky beast
  1437 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  1444 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small antennae on your head. [mutagenic meat]
  1445 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You can spit poison. [mutagenic meat]
  1446 | D:3      | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong. (Str +2) [mutagenic meat]
  1523 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/37 MP: 6/6
  1530 | D:3      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  1583 | D:3      | Noticed an ice beast
  1591 | D:3      | Killed an ice beast
  1965 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  2450 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 39/41 MP: 7/7
  2564 | D:4      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  2871 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3011 | D:5      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  3011 | D:5      | Noticed a balrug
  3014 | D:5      | Noticed a hellwing
  3014 | D:5      | Noticed an orange demon
  3324 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3334 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  3476 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Warmaster Okawaru
  3582 | D:5      | Got a distressingly furry robe
  3593 | D:5      | Identified the +0 robe of the King of the Hill {+Rage rElec rC+ rN+} (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon)
  3625 | D:5      | Found Cloes' General Store.
  3630 | D:5      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  3630 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 46/46 MP: 8/8
  3902 | D:6      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  4119 | D:6      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  4148 | D:6      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  4148 | D:6      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  4151 | D:6      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  4392 | D:6      | Noticed Pikel
  4425 | D:6      | Killed Pikel
  4425 | D:6      | Acquired Okawaru's first power
  4425 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  4488 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 24/52 MP: 9/9
  5039 | D:7      | Got a faintly humming chain mail
  5050 | D:7      | Identified the +0 chain mail of Perpetual Drought {Str+3 Dex+3} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
  5157 | D:7      | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
  5416 | D:7      | Identified a +0 rod of inaccuracy (12/12) (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
  5634 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  5726 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  5897 | D:8      | Noticed Duvessa
  5897 | D:8      | Noticed Dowan
  5918 | D:8      | Killed Duvessa
  5918 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
  5931 | D:8      | Killed Dowan
  6142 | D:8      | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
  6240 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 59/59 MP: 10/10
  6547 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  6547 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  6928 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  7035 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
  7264 | D:9      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  7609 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 65/65 MP: 18/18
  7710 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  7805 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  7894 | D:10     | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  7968 | D:10     | Acquired Okawaru's second power
  8007 | D:10     | Killed an unseen horror
  8196 | D:10     | Received a gift from Okawaru
  8223 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
  8234 | D:10     | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  8782 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  9477 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 66/75 MP: 20/20
 10028 | Lair:2   | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 10070 | Lair:2   | Killed an eight-headed hydra
 10070 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 10070 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Dodging
 10687 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 10697 | Lair:3   | Got a pair of dazzling gloves {god gift}
 10703 | Lair:3   | Identified the -5 pair of gloves of the Lizard {rPois} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 10792 | Lair:3   | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 10834 | Lair:3   | Killed an eight-headed hydra
 10940 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 11634 | Lair:4   | Noticed Snorg
 11648 | Lair:4   | Killed Snorg
 11713 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 11970 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 11971 | Lair:4   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 11988 | Lair:4   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 11988 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 52/80 MP: 19/22
 12985 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 13252 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 14472 | Lair:6   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 15168 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 15311 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 15311 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
 15331 | Lair:7   | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 15341 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 15653 | Lab      | Noticed a minotaur
 15658 | Lab      | Killed a minotaur
 15658 | Lab      | Gained mutation: Your wings are large and strong. [gargoyle growth]
 15658 | Lab      | Reached XP level 14. HP: 83/88 MP: 23/23
 15709 | Lab      | Identified a +6 rod of inaccuracy (10/10) (You found it in a labyrinth)
 15712 | Lab      | Identified a +8 rod of shadows (9/9) (You found it in a labyrinth)
 15969 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
 16187 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 16315 | Lair:8   | Noticed Nergalle
 16515 | Lair:8   | Killed Nergalle
 16726 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 16964 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Okawaru
 17229 | Lair:8   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 17229 | Lair:8   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 18395 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 14 in Maces & Flails
 18398 | Orc:2    | Reached XP level 15. HP: 26/93 MP: 25/25
 18876 | Orc:2    | Found Caommont's Food Boutique.
 20104 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 20584 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Okawaru
 20799 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 20926 | Orc:4    | Found Maess' General Store.
 20975 | Orc:4    | Bought a potion of agility for 30 gold pieces
 21020 | Orc:4    | Found Xacofetz's Magic Scroll Boutique.
 21388 | Orc:4    | Found Noidop's Weapon Shop.
 21413 | Orc:4    | Found Klenaory's Book Boutique.
 21486 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 21583 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Okawaru
 21623 | Orc:4    | Got a shimmering chain mail {god gift}
 21634 | Orc:4    | Identified the +6 chain mail "Vyzabbe" {rF+ Int-2 SInv} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
 22195 | Orc:4    | Paralysed by an orc sorcerer for 2 turns
 22210 | Orc:4    | Paralysed by an orc sorcerer for 5 turns
 22228 | Orc:4    | Identified the Collected Works on Scorching Arcane Weapons
 22292 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 22388 | Orc:3    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 22798 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 23126 | Shoals:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Shields
 23362 | Shoals:1 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 24085 | Shoals:2 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 84/100 MP: 25/25
 24118 | Shoals:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails
 24784 | Shoals:3 | Found Straheho's Assorted Antiques.
 24824 | Shoals:3 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 25490 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 25490 | Spider:1 | Noticed Mad4God's ghost (powerful MiBe)
 25516 | Spider:1 | Killed Mad4God's ghost
 26483 | Spider:2 | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute. (Int +2) [potion of beneficial mutation]
 26635 | Spider:2 | Noticed Jorgrun
 26656 | Spider:2 | Killed Jorgrun
 26656 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 16 in Maces & Flails
 26673 | Spider:2 | HP: 4/103 [disintegration (29)]
 27144 | Spider:2 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 27264 | Spider:2 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 27810 | Spider:3 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 106/108 MP: 26/26
 28548 | Spider:4 | Noticed Louise
 28573 | Spider:4 | Cast into the Abyss (Louise)
 28573 | Abyss:1  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 28616 | Abyss:1  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 28852 | Abyss:1  | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
 28906 | Abyss:1  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 28920 | Abyss:1  | Reached skill level 17 in Maces & Flails
 29024 | Abyss:1  | Noticed a lich
 29035 | Abyss:1  | Killed a lich
 29084 | Abyss:1  | Paralysed by accursed screaming for 1 turns
 29106 | Abyss:1  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 29114 | Spider:4 | Escaped the Abyss
 29438 | Spider:4 | Killed Louise
 29702 | Spider:4 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 29715 | Spider:4 | Got a pitted hat {god gift}
 29726 | Spider:4 | Identified the +1 hat of the Orb {rC+ Str+2 Dex+1 Stlth+} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 4 of the Spider Nest)
 29871 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest
 30639 | Spider:5 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 30650 | Spider:5 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 55/117 MP: 28/28
 30816 | Spider:5 | Reached skill level 18 in Maces & Flails
 30818 | Spider:5 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 30822 | Spider:5 | Got a bloodstained double sword {god gift}
 30823 | Spider:5 | Identified the -2 double sword "Iroisech" {drain, rF++ Str+2 Int-2} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 5 of the Spider Nest)
 31301 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
 33956 | Shoals:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Shoals
 33983 | Shoals:5 | Found Uciulas' General Store.
 33984 | Shoals:5 | Got a flickering sapphire amulet
 33985 | Shoals:5 | Identified the amulet of Doubts {Faith +Fly rC++} (You found it on level 5 of the Shoals)
 34024 | Shoals:5 | Noticed Ilsuiw
 34038 | Shoals:5 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 34500 | Shoals:5 | Killed Ilsuiw
 34625 | Shoals:5 | Gained mutation: You are covered in fur (AC +1). [potion of beneficial mutation]
 34685 | Shoals:5 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 35455 | Shoals:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 35503 | Shoals:5 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 35706 | Shoals:5 | Got a barnacled rune of Zot
 35997 | Shoals:4 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 106/124 MP: 28/28
 36282 | D:11     | Found Guawauf's Armour Boutique.
 36424 | D:11     | Found Edabuin's Gadget Shoppe.
 36510 | D:11     | Received a gift from Okawaru
 36536 | D:11     | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 36733 | D:11     | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
 37954 | D:13     | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar.
 37983 | Bazaar   | Entered a bazaar
 37997 | Bazaar   | Found Wookouj's Armour Shoppe.
 37997 | Bazaar   | Found Trauwk's Book Emporium.
 38012 | Bazaar   | Found Gham's Magic Scroll Emporium.
 38034 | Bazaar   | Found Qouxaohi's Jewellery Emporium.
 38069 | Bazaar   | Bought an uncursed amulet of clarity for 280 gold pieces
 38156 | Bazaar   | Bought an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion for 280 gold pieces
 38818 | D:14     | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
 38843 | D:14     | Noticed Urug
 38855 | D:14     | Killed Urug
 39047 | D:14     | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 39366 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 39640 | D:14     | Received a gift from Okawaru
 39729 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 39757 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 39909 | D:15     | Reached skill level 19 in Maces & Flails
 40361 | D:15     | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
 40452 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 40555 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 40801 | Vaults:1 | Found Gozag's Assorted Antiques.
 40837 | Vaults:1 | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
 40923 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 40951 | Vaults:1 | Found Gozag's Antique Armour Shop.
 41225 | Vaults:1 | Found Gozag's Antique Weapon Boutique.
 41554 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 112/131 MP: 29/29
 42462 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 42466 | Vaults:1 | Got a crude morningstar {god gift}
 42467 | Vaults:1 | Identified the +10 morningstar "Ituheub" {pain, -Tele +Fly SInv} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 1 of the Vaults)
 43153 | Vaults:2 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
 43160 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 43343 | Vaults:2 | Paralysed by an ogre mage for 7 turns
 43534 | Vaults:2 | Found Qazxief's Armour Shoppe.
 43741 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 43741 | Vaults:2 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 43742 | Vaults:2 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 43850 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 20 in Maces & Flails
 44136 | Vaults:3 | Identified a +0 rod of inaccuracy (14/14) (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 44234 | Vaults:3 | Found Fraagaef's Jewellery Boutique.
 44475 | Vaults:3 | Got a ring of the Octopus King
 44477 | Vaults:3 | Identified a ring of the Octopus King {rC+ AC+1 EV+1 Str+1 Dex+1 Int+1} (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 44576 | Vaults:3 | Found Wourheph's Book Emporium.
 44981 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 98/138 MP: 29/29
 45051 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 45855 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 45956 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 45978 | Vaults:4 | Noticed Sojobo
 46023 | Vaults:4 | Killed Sojobo
 46319 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 46404 | Vaults:4 | Got a steaming hand crossbow {god gift}
 46405 | Vaults:4 | Identified the +3 hand crossbow of Bile {elec, +Inv Stlth+} (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 4 of the Vaults)
 46865 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 47004 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 47040 | Vaults:4 | Got a crystal great mace {god gift}
 47638 | Vaults:4 | Identified the Tome of the Armadillo
 47846 | Vaults:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Vaults
 47855 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 47859 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 145/145 MP: 28/30
 47928 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 21 in Maces & Flails
 48000 | Vaults:5 | Cast into the Abyss (a deep elf demonologist)
 48046 | Abyss:1  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 48068 | Abyss:1  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 48256 | Abyss:1  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 48297 | Vaults:5 | Escaped the Abyss
 48337 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a golden dragon
 48366 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 48796 | Vaults:5 | Killed a ghostly golden dragon
 48820 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Okawaru
 49099 | Vaults:5 | Got a brightly glowing demon whip
 49100 | Vaults:5 | Identified the +8 demon whip of Dishonesty {pain, Noisy +Fly} (You took it off a tengu reaver on level 5 of the Vaults)


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Flail             |    91 |   140 |   117 |       |       |       |       |       ||   348
       Whip              |       |       |   160 |   802 |  1957 |  1640 |   397 |       ||  4956
       Unarmed           |       |       |       |       |       |   469 |       |       ||   469
       Morningstar       |       |       |       |       |       |   111 |    19 |       ||   130
       Mace              |       |       |       |       |       |    43 |       |       ||    43
       Demon whip        |       |       |       |       |       |       |  2019 |   443 ||  2462
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |       |       |     9 |       |       |       |       ||     9
Throw: Tomahawk          |       |     5 |     5 |    50 |    47 |     3 |       |       ||   110
       Throwing net      |       |     1 |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     2
       Javelin           |       |       |       |       |       |    27 |   102 |    14 ||   143
Invok: Heroism           |       |       |     2 |     4 |    21 |    21 |     8 |     4 ||    60
       Finesse           |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |     1 |     2 ||     5
 Abil: Evoke Berserk Rag |       |       |     3 |       |       |       |       |       ||     3
       Spit Poison       |       |       |    17 |    36 |    13 |     1 |       |       ||    67
       Fly               |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
Evoke: Rod               |       |       |       |    11 |    39 |    17 |     5 |       ||    72
       Wand              |       |       |       |       |     4 |    49 |     3 |       ||    56
       Lamp of fire      |       |       |       |       |       |     4 |     2 |       ||     6
       Deck              |       |       |       |       |       |    11 |       |       ||    11
       Fan of gales      |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     2
  Use: Scroll            |       |    10 |    13 |     7 |     6 |    12 |     9 |     3 ||    60
       Potion            |       |     2 |       |       |     1 |    18 |       |     4 ||    25
 Stab: Held in net/web   |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Sleeping          |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Paralysed         |       |       |       |       |     5 |     5 |       |       ||    10
       Distracted        |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     2
       Invisible         |       |       |       |       |       |     3 |       |       ||     3
       Confused          |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |     1 |       ||     3
  Eat: Chunk             |     3 |    19 |    15 |    21 |    29 |    26 |    29 |     5 ||   147
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |       |     2 |     2 |     1 |       ||     5
       Pizza             |       |       |       |       |     2 |     1 |     1 |       ||     4
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |     1 |       ||     3
       Fruit             |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |     8 |       ||    10
       Meat ration       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1

Mines Malingerer

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Post Friday, 31st October 2014, 13:38

Re: CIP Gargoyle fighter weapon choice

Never mind, I died in one turn from full health. Parylize is stupid.

Vestibule Violator

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Post Friday, 31st October 2014, 13:54

Re: CIP Gargoyle fighter weapon choice

Sorry to hear that. :(

Paralyze deaths feel terrible, believe me I know. They feel unavoidable and unfair, but you can actually do some things to reduce the risk of paralysis. MR is really important, much moreso than the other resists. You don't seem to have any MR equipment on you, but if you find some it's very often worth wearing. Not just to protect against paralyze, there are lots of unpleasant effects that check MR. Also, kill any enemies that can have paralyze as soon as possible, or prevent them from having a clear shot at you. This is often fairly easy for ogre mages because of their band. For stuff like sphinxes and vampire knights it tends to be a lot harder to do without summons.

Mines Malingerer

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Post Friday, 31st October 2014, 14:08

Re: CIP Gargoyle fighter weapon choice

Galefury wrote:Sorry to hear that. :(

Paralyze deaths feel terrible, believe me I know. They feel unavoidable and unfair, but you can actually do some things to reduce the risk of paralysis. MR is really important, much moreso than the other resists. You don't seem to have any MR equipment on you, but if you find some it's very often worth wearing. Not just to protect against paralyze, there are lots of unpleasant effects that check MR. Also, kill any enemies that can have paralyze as soon as possible, or prevent them from having a clear shot at you. This is often fairly easy for ogre mages because of their band. For stuff like sphinxes and vampire knights it tends to be a lot harder to do without summons.

Unfortunately, other than rings of protection from magic, I found no magic resistance at all, if I remember correctly. I assumed that rings of slaying would be more useful, but I suppose I was wrong. Next time I won't enter vaults 5 without some MR.
Where should I go at that point in the game with no MR?

Vestibule Violator

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Post Friday, 31st October 2014, 14:47

Re: CIP Gargoyle fighter weapon choice

Rings of slaying are more useful than rings of MR against enemies that don't have MR-checking attacks. Which is most enemies. But you should at least bring an MR ring with you and swap it in if you see something with a dangerous hex. In your situation I would probably even have done it the other way around and worn MR instead of one of the rings of slaying, and swapped in the ring of slaying when I felt like I needed it. Far less annoying that way.

Edit: regarding where to go, I think vaults was actually a decent choice. But you should usually put off Vaults:5 until after depths. Slime may have been okay too, if you can get your hands on rCorr, Clarity and maybe rMut (unless you have some cmut potions).

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Post Friday, 31st October 2014, 15:41

Re: CIP Gargoyle fighter weapon choice

I wear ring of MR by default and switch to slaying when necessary. Yes, that's lots of swaps and I understand why most players don't do it.

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Friday, 31st October 2014, 15:57

Re: CIP Gargoyle fighter weapon choice

I wear rings of magic and just leave them on because I'm lazy, because I hate hexes, and because while a couple points of slaying are nice, they probably won't save your life.

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Post Friday, 31st October 2014, 16:16

Re: CIP Gargoyle fighter weapon choice

tasonir wrote:I wear rings of magic and just leave them on because I'm lazy, because I hate hexes, and because while a couple points of slaying are nice, they probably won't save your life.


Unfortunately they can save life, especially with anti-magic weapon.

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Post Friday, 31st October 2014, 20:31

Re: CIP Gargoyle fighter weapon choice

tasonir wrote:I wear rings of magic and just leave them on because I'm lazy, because I hate hexes, and because while a couple points of slaying are nice, they probably won't save your life.

I disagree. I think having slaying saved my life repeatedly back before I managed to find a decent weapon. Granted, once I had three awesome weapons to choose from the slaying wasn't neccecary, and i should have noticed that. Live and learn(or die as the case may be).

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