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Joined: Sunday, 14th April 2013, 04:01

Post Tuesday, 29th July 2014, 21:22

CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

I was feeling grumpy and rolling random characters, and got KoBe

1. I don't like Kobolds
2. I don't like short blades
3. I only rarely play Trog.

Sure, let's go for it.

Instead of putting everything into one skill, I've kept 5 skills all at 20% all game, switching which 5 as needed. And I went heavy stealth. As a berserker.

This is my best character in a long long while. I'm some combination of happy and self-disgusted.

Only question I have now is Vaults or Slime, and if Slime do I ditch Trog since I need literally nothing from him. (I found an amulet of rage that I might grab for emergencies later).

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-2324-gf0d8333 (console) character file.

TeshiAlair the Unseen (Kobold Berserker)           Turns: 40542, Time: 02:49:03

HP 125/125       AC 20     Str 21      XL: 19   Next: 85%
MP  31/31        EV 32     Int  5      God: Trog [******]
Gold 1251        SH 13     Dex 31      Spells:  0 memorised, 18 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis .     b - +8 greatsling of the Final Decision {flame, +Blink Dex+4}
rCold  + . .     Clarity  +     m - +5 robe of the Thistle {Slay+4}
rNeg   + . .     rCorr    .     p - +3 buckler {reflect}
rPois  +         rRot     .     Z - +1 helmet of Meppunot {Str+3 Dex+3}
rElec  .         Spirit   .     i - +2 cloak
SustAb .         Warding  .     J - +2 pair of gloves {archery}
rMut   .         Stasis   .     y - -2 pair of boots "Lesex" {rPois rC+}
Gourm  .                        f - amulet of clarity
MR     ++...                    e - +6 ring of protection
                                j - ring "Klihe" {rN+ MR+ Str+3}

@: very resistant to hostile enchantments, incredibly stealthy
A: carnivore 3
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion,
Evoke Blink
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, serpentine


You are on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and seen 37 of its levels.
You have visited 1 bazaar.

You have collected 3277 gold pieces.
You have spent 2026 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +9 quick blade of electrocution
 b - the +8 greatsling of the Final Decision (weapon) {flame, +Blink Dex+4}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It turns projectiles fired from it into bolts of flame.
   
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
   It lets you blink.
 s - a blowgun
Missiles
 g - 6 sling bullets of frost
 k - 241 stones (quivered)
 w - 7 curare-tipped needles
 O - 69 exploding sling bullets
 V - 26 silver sling bullets
 Y - 27 steel sling bullets
Armour
 i - a +2 cloak (worn)
 m - the +5 robe of the Thistle (worn) {Slay+4}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Swamp)   
   
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+4).
 p - a +3 buckler of reflection (worn)
 y - the -2 pair of boots "Lesex" (worn) {rPois rC+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It protects you from cold.
   It protects you from poison.
 J - a +2 pair of gloves of archery (worn)
 T - the +3 salamander hide armour {+Rage rF++}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It lets you go berserk.
 Z - the +1 helmet of Meppunot (worn) {Str+3 Dex+3}
   (You acquired it on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
Magical devices
 v - a wand of fireball
 z - a wand of cold
 D - a wand of draining
 E - a wand of teleportation
 G - a wand of teleportation (2)
 H - a wand of invisibility (7)
 L - a wand of fire (5)
 M - a wand of heal wounds (6)
 U - a wand of disintegration (11)
Comestibles
 c - 14 meat rations
 h - 15 beef jerkies
 A - 26 royal jellies
Scrolls
 l - 8 scrolls of teleportation
 q - 5 scrolls of identify
 t - 2 scrolls of blinking
 F - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 I - 3 scrolls of fear
 P - 3 scrolls of enchant armour
 Q - 2 scrolls of recharging
 S - 2 scrolls of holy word
 W - 8 scrolls of fog
Jewellery
 e - a +6 ring of protection (right hand)
 f - an amulet of clarity (around neck)
 j - the ring "Klihe" (left hand) {rN+ MR+ Str+3}
   (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar)   
   
   [ring of protection from magic]
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 x - an uncursed amulet of warding
 B - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 C - an uncursed ring of teleportation
 N - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
 X - an uncursed ring of see invisible
Potions
 d - a potion of invisibility
 o - 16 potions of curing
 r - 3 potions of resistance
 u - 4 potions of haste
 K - 7 potions of heal wounds
 R - a potion of might
Rods
 n - a +9 lightning rod (15/15)
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)


   Skills:
 * Level 16.2 Fighting
 * Level 18.4 Short Blades
 * Level 14.7 Slings
 - Level 1.5 Armour
 - Level 13.0 Dodging
 * Level 20.2 Stealth
 * Level 11.0 Shields
 - Level 10.0 Evocations


You have 18 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (0/1) D:4 D:5         Orc (4/4) D:10
    Elf (0/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:9           Swamp (5/5) Lair:4
  Snake (5/5) Lair:4        Slime (0/6) Lair:8       Vaults (0/5) D:13
 Depths (0/5) D:15       

Altars:
Dithmenos
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Qazlal
Sif Muna
Trog
Xom
Beogh

Shops:
D:13 *   Orc:4 }[((

Portals:
Trove: D:11 (give +2 gold dragon armour)


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are small and have problems with some larger weapons.
You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time.


Message History

There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You climb upwards.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You climb upwards.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
You see here a scroll of noise.
You see here a halberd.
Things that are here:
a robe; a trident
You see here 16 stones.
k - 241 stones (gained 16)
(D) Dungeon        (T) Temple         (O) Orcish Mines   (E) Elven Halls   
(L) Lair           (S) Swamp          (P) Snake Pit      (M) Slime Pits     
(V) Vaults         (U) Depths         
Where to? (Enter - Snake:1 @ (x,y), ? - help)
There is a staircase back to the Lair here.
You climb upwards. Welcome back to the Lair of Beasts!
There is a staircase to the Snake Pit here.
Done exploring.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Nikola (Swamp:5)
  3 thorn hunters
  Rupert (D:13)
  Frances (Swamp:2)
  Kirke (Swamp:5)
  8 greater nagas
  Donald (Swamp:2)
  Wiglaf (Swamp:5)
  Jorgrun (Swamp:2)
  6 dire elephants (Lair:8)
  3 rakshasas (D:12)
  Snorg (Orc:1)
  A vault guard (D:11)
  An ettin (D:15)
  Harold (D:13)
  13 naga warriors
  8 anacondas
  17 hydras
  Erica (D:13)
  A shambling mangrove (Swamp:3)
  12 alligators
  3 ogre magi
  3 orc high priests
  13 naga sharpshooters
  10 death yaks
  10 shock serpents
  3 salamander mystics
  The ghost of DEADISDEAD the Martial Artist, an experienced DrMo of Qazlal (D:9)
  A deep elf knight (D:15)
  9 sea snakes
  2 spriggan druids (Swamp:5)
  An unseen horror (D:12)
  11 swamp dragons
  5 naga ritualists
  8 hill giants
  5 mana vipers
  4 manticores
  2 cyclopes
  A griffon (Lair:8)
  4 orc knights
  7 orc sorcerers
  A wolf spider (Lair:6)
  14 elephants
  9 salamanders
  11 guardian serpents
  35 black mambas
  A centaur zombie (D:15)
  Joseph (D:7)
  3 gargoyles
  20 naga magi
  A torpor snail (Lair:6)
  17 spiny frogs
  Psyche (Orc:4)
  A centaur skeleton (D:15)
  A kobold demonologist (D:12)
  12 komodo dragons
  5 fire drakes
  A queen bee (Lair:3)
  7 trolls
  A polar bear (Lair:2)
  10 blink frogs
  5 giant leeches
  Prince Ribbit (D:6)
  6 slime creatures (Swamp:3)
  5 bog bodies
  5 ravens
  2 boulder beetles
  11 baby alligators
  6 two-headed ogres
  3 basilisks
  A deep elf mage (D:15)
  2 hogs (Swamp:5)
  3 shadows
  2 wraiths
  33 yaks
  4 ugly things (D:12)
  4 hippogriffs
  A hungry ghost (D:15)
  3 spriggans (Swamp:1)
  A hill giant zombie (D:14)
  14 humans
  3 wyverns
  15 vampire mosquitoes
  5 wolves
  A deep elf fighter (D:9)
  2 steam dragons
  58 nagas
  27 swamp worms
  Edmund (D:6)
  A soldier ant (D:13)
  Menkaure (D:7)
  A hill giant skeleton (D:8)
  A human zombie (D:11)
  2 mottled dragons
  5 wargs
  28 water moccasins
  11 swamp drakes
  A human skeleton (D:15)
  A spider (D:13)
  12 porcupines
  A black bear (D:12)
  3 phantoms
  18 ogres
  5 ice beasts
  A manticore zombie (D:13)
  7 centaurs
  19 crocodiles
  34 orc warriors
  5 yellow wasps
  5 sky beasts
  2 boring beetles
  19 giant frogs
  A gnoll sergeant (Orc:4)
  Blork the orc (Orc:1)
  A cyclops zombie (D:15)
  26 insubstantial wisps
  An eye of draining (D:11)
  30 killer bees
  3 scorpions
  A goliath beetle (D:13)
  9 crimson imps
  7 wights
  2 electric eels
  Dowan (D:6)
  An elf zombie (D:9)
  9 hounds
  35 orc priests
  A basilisk zombie (D:14)
  A gnoll shaman (Orc:4)
  Crazy Yiuf (D:2)
  7 jellies
  7 iguanas
  An elf skeleton (D:13)
  2 orange rats (Lair:7)
  3 iron imps (D:5)
  39 orc wizards
  13 sheep
  4 worker ants
  A sky beast zombie (D:9)
  The ghost of axle the Sneak, a weakling SpEn (D:4)
  A hound zombie (D:7)
  A mummy (D:8)
  12 gnolls
  96 green rats
  A scorpion zombie (D:8)
  3 shadow imps
  23 adders
  A giant mite (D:3)
  3 worms
  3 ufetubi (Orc:4)
  A giant gecko (D:1)
  5 oozes
  234 orcs
  23 bats
  A bat zombie (D:5)
  2 giant cockroaches
  20 goblins
  12 hobgoblins
  12 jackals
  15 kobolds
  14 quokkas
  A ball python (D:2)
  5 giant newts
  2 giant spores
  17 orc zombies
  27 rats
  3 ballistomycetes
  2 butterflies (D:4)
  9 fungi
  11 plants
1514 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Saint Roka (Orc:4)
  Roxanne (D:14)
  Maud (Lair:3)
  Erolcha (D:13)
  Grinder (D:5)
  2 humans (D:13)
  A porcupine (Lair:3)
  A centaur (D:13)
  Duvessa (D:6)
  A wight (D:13)
  A hound (Lair:3)
  An orc wizard (Orc:4)
  An iguana (Lair:3)
  A worker ant (D:5)
15 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  3 naga sharpshooters
  A deep troll (D:13)
  A two-headed ogre (D:13)
  2 humans (Swamp:5)
  4 ogres
  A centaur (D:13)
  A giant frog (D:7)
  A fungus (Lair:8)
  5 plants
19 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1548 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | TeshiAlair, the Kobold Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 1/1
   158 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 16/19 MP: 2/2
   359 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
   566 | D:2      | Acquired Trog's second power
   584 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 16/23 MP: 3/3
   641 | D:2      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
   649 | D:2      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
   649 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
   649 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 28/28 MP: 4/4
  1607 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 28/32 MP: 5/5
  1782 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Short Blades
  1838 | D:3      | Noticed a phantom
  1874 | D:3      | Killed a phantom
  1874 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 27/38 MP: 6/6
  2462 | D:4      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  2773 | D:4      | Noticed axle's ghost (weakling SpEn)
  2784 | D:4      | Killed axle's ghost
  2825 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  2876 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
  2986 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Short Blades
  3192 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/43 MP: 7/7
  3386 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Slings
  3586 | D:4      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  3788 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3900 | D:5      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  4069 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4122 | D:5      | Acquired Trog's third power
  4177 | D:5      | Noticed Grinder
  4312 | D:5      | Paralysed by something for 5 turns
  4403 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  4410 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 49/49 MP: 8/8
  4794 | D:5      | Killed Grinder
  4794 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Short Blades
  5050 | D:6      | Noticed a hill giant
  5061 | D:6      | Killed a hill giant
  5061 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  5061 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 18/55 MP: 9/9
  5294 | D:6      | Noticed Edmund
  5323 | D:6      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  5323 | D:6      | Killed Prince Ribbit
  5323 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Short Blades
  5733 | D:6      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  5844 | D:6      | Killed Edmund
  5844 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Slings
  6001 | D:6      | Noticed Dowan
  6003 | D:6      | Noticed Duvessa
  6009 | D:6      | Killed Dowan
  6015 | D:6      | Killed Duvessa
  6397 | D:6      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  6810 | D:7      | Noticed Menkaure
  6813 | D:7      | Killed Menkaure
  7042 | D:7      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  7089 | D:7      | Noticed Joseph
  7113 | D:7      | Killed Joseph
  7113 | D:7      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 38/63 MP: 10/10
  7558 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades
  8213 | D:8      | Received a gift from Trog
  8234 | D:8      | Identified a scroll of acquirement
  8235 | D:8      | Got a slimy helmet
  8242 | D:8      | Identified the +1 helmet of Meppunot {Str+3 Dex+3} (You acquired it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
  8398 | D:9      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  8431 | D:9      | Noticed DEADISDEAD's ghost (experienced DrMo)
  8916 | D:9      | Killed DEADISDEAD's ghost
  8916 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
  9577 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  9753 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  9847 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 68/68 MP: 15/17
  9896 | D:10     | Reached skill level 11 in Short Blades
 10166 | D:10     | Received a gift from Trog
 10178 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 10491 | D:11     | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 10617 | D:11     | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar.
 10627 | D:11     | Noticed a vault guard
 10640 | Bazaar   | Entered a bazaar
 10640 | Bazaar   | Found Pnitag's Food Boutique.
 10640 | Bazaar   | Found Ataran's Book Shop.
 10640 | Bazaar   | Found Eptucafa's Antique Armour Boutique.
 10640 | Bazaar   | Found Schatzex's Distillery.
 10640 | Bazaar   | Found Gyoxzay's Jewellery Boutique.
 10678 | Bazaar   | Bought the ring "Klihe" {rN+ MR+ Str+3} for 382 gold pieces
 10688 | Bazaar   | Bought a pair of runed gloves for 117 gold pieces
 10747 | D:11     | Killed a vault guard
 10762 | D:11     | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 11011 | D:11     | Noticed a cyclops
 11018 | D:11     | Killed a cyclops
 11172 | D:11     | Noticed a manticore
 11196 | D:11     | Killed a manticore
 11250 | D:11     | Noticed a manticore
 11267 | D:11     | Killed a manticore
 11389 | D:11     | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [potion of mutation]
 11389 | D:11     | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in icy blue scales (AC +1). [potion of mutation]
 11389 | D:11     | Lost mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [potion of mutation]
 11439 | D:11     | Lost mutation: You are partially covered in icy blue scales (AC +1). [potion of cure mutation]
 11597 | D:12     | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 11683 | D:11     | Received a gift from Trog
 11690 | D:11     | Got a transparent dagger {god gift}
 11691 | D:11     | Identified the +3 dagger of the Living Dead {drain, rPois Int+1} (Trog gifted it to you on level 11 of the Dungeon)
 11706 | D:12     | Killed a four-headed hydra
 11766 | D:12     | Noticed a hill giant
 11784 | D:12     | Killed a hill giant
 11784 | D:12     | Reached skill level 12 in Short Blades
 11784 | D:12     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 76/76 MP: 21/21
 11895 | D:12     | Noticed a hill giant
 11910 | D:12     | Killed a hill giant
 12068 | D:12     | Noticed a rakshasa
 12099 | D:12     | Killed a rakshasa
 12104 | D:12     | Killed a rakshasa
 12108 | D:12     | Killed a rakshasa
 12108 | D:12     | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 12854 | D:12     | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 12869 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 12869 | D:13     | Noticed a skeletal warrior
 12869 | D:13     | Noticed Rupert
 12974 | D:13     | Noticed Erica
 12983 | D:13     | Killed Erica
 13153 | D:13     | Received a gift from Trog
 13364 | D:13     | Noticed Harold
 13370 | D:13     | Killed Harold
 13460 | D:13     | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth
 13473 | D:13     | Reached XP level 13. HP: 83/83 MP: 22/22
 13501 | D:13     | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 13522 | D:13     | Noticed Erolcha
 13546 | D:13     | Killed Erolcha
 13555 | D:13     | Received a gift from Trog
 13576 | D:13     | Found Yple's General Store.
 13596 | D:13     | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 42 gold pieces
 13653 | D:13     | Received a gift from Trog
 13857 | D:13     | Killed Rupert
 14461 | D:14     | Received a gift from Trog
 14508 | D:14     | Noticed Roxanne
 14528 | D:14     | Killed Roxanne
 14532 | D:14     | Identified Roxanne's Incunabulum of Ashen Moulding (You took it off Roxanne on level 14 of the Dungeon)
 15014 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 15079 | D:15     | Received a gift from Trog
 15111 | D:15     | Reached skill level 14 in Stealth
 15310 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 15310 | D:15     | Noticed an ettin
 15316 | D:15     | Killed an ettin
 15526 | D:15     | Reached XP level 14. HP: 90/90 MP: 23/23
 16008 | D:15     | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-2293-g46567fe to 0.15-a0-2324-gf0d8333
 16211 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 16211 | Orc:1    | Noticed Blork the orc
 16215 | Orc:1    | Killed Blork the orc
 16384 | Orc:1    | Noticed Snorg
 16403 | Orc:1    | Killed Snorg
 16678 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 17335 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 18063 | Orc:3    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 18272 | Orc:3    | Received a gift from Trog
 18356 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 18356 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 18547 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 18603 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 18670 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 18783 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 18841 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth
 18845 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 18895 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 18975 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 19154 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 19337 | Orc:4    | Noticed Psyche
 19339 | Orc:4    | Killed Psyche
 19371 | Orc:4    | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 19490 | Orc:4    | Noticed Saint Roka
 19596 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 19662 | Orc:4    | Killed Saint Roka
 19662 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 15 in Short Blades
 19814 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 19816 | Orc:4    | Got a crude greatsling {god gift}
 19849 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 19849 | Orc:4    | Found Extiakk's Antique Armour Shoppe.
 19852 | Orc:4    | Found Ufawub's Antique Weapon Emporium.
 19895 | Orc:4    | Bought a pair of jewelled boots for 275 gold pieces
 19895 | Orc:4    | Bought a shiny buckler for 130 gold pieces
 19929 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 19932 | Orc:4    | Found Amira's Weapon Shop.
 20095 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 20111 | Orc:4    | Found Bigaaraq's Gadget Emporium.
 20152 | Orc:4    | Bought a +4 lightning rod (9/9) for 1080 gold pieces
 20294 | D:10     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 97/97 MP: 24/24
 20368 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 20502 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Trog
 20807 | Lair:1   | Identified the +8 greatsling of the Final Decision {flame, +Blink Dex+4} (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
 21480 | Lair:2   | Got a heavily runed ring mail
 21860 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Trog
 21896 | Lair:2   | Identified the cursed -1 ring mail of Subjectivity {Str+2 Int+2 Curse} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts)
 22261 | Lair:3   | Noticed Maud
 22274 | Lair:3   | Killed Maud
 22363 | Lair:3   | Found a dark tunnel.
 22788 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Trog
 23038 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 23039 | Lair:4   | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
 23056 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth
 23672 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Trog
 23876 | Orc:4    | Identified the cursed -2 pair of boots "Lesex" {rPois rC+} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
 24232 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 24716 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 10 in Slings
 24752 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Trog
 25675 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Trog
 26020 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Trog
 26112 | Lair:7   | Reached XP level 16. HP: 104/104 MP: 28/28
 26145 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Trog
 26328 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Trog
 26992 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 27113 | Lair:8   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 28590 | Lair:8   | Got a jewelled leather armour
 28591 | Lair:8   | Identified the +3 leather armour "Ykis" {rF+} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 28616 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 17 in Stealth
 28896 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
 28988 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Trog
 29066 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 29385 | Swamp:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 29625 | Swamp:1  | Got a bloodstained triple crossbow
 29626 | Swamp:1  | Identified the +3 triple crossbow "Gez Imeg" {elec, Dex+1} (You found it on level 1 of the Swamp)
 29987 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Donald
 30008 | Swamp:2  | Killed Donald
 30356 | Swamp:2  | Received a gift from Trog
 30547 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Frances
 30554 | Swamp:2  | Noticed a thorn hunter
 30562 | Swamp:2  | Killed Frances
 30562 | Swamp:2  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 106/111 MP: 29/29
 30574 | Swamp:2  | Killed a thorn hunter
 30730 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Jorgrun
 30740 | Swamp:2  | Killed Jorgrun
 30924 | Swamp:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 30976 | Swamp:3  | Got a faintly glowing robe
 30977 | Swamp:3  | Identified the +5 robe of the Thistle {Slay+4} (You found it on level 3 of the Swamp)
 31825 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 18 in Stealth
 32292 | Swamp:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp
 32411 | Swamp:5  | Noticed Kirke
 32416 | Swamp:5  | Noticed a sphinx
 32419 | Swamp:5  | Paralysed by a sphinx for 6 turns
 32427 | Swamp:5  | Noticed a sphinx
 32433 | Swamp:5  | Killed Kirke
 32708 | Swamp:5  | Noticed Nikola
 32727 | Swamp:5  | Received a gift from Trog
 32731 | Swamp:5  | Killed Nikola
 33599 | Swamp:5  | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 33599 | Swamp:5  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 117/119 MP: 30/30
 33639 | Swamp:5  | Noticed Wiglaf
 33654 | Swamp:5  | Killed Wiglaf
 33825 | Swamp:5  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 34278 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 34539 | Snake:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 35475 | Snake:2  | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth
 36286 | Snake:3  | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 36444 | Snake:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 36720 | Snake:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 36738 | Snake:3  | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
 37847 | Snake:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit
 37900 | Snake:5  | Reached XP level 19. HP: 112/125 MP: 31/31
 38185 | Snake:5  | Received a gift from Trog
 38276 | Snake:5  | Received a gift from Trog
 39349 | Snake:5  | Received a gift from Trog
 39543 | Snake:5  | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth
 39873 | Snake:5  | Received a gift from Trog
 39893 | Snake:5  | Got a serpentine rune of Zot


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Short sword       |    79 |   182 |   275 |   168 |       |       |       ||   704
       Cutlass           |       |       |       |   893 |   304 |       |       ||  1197
       Quick blade       |       |       |       |       |  1298 |   692 |   133 ||  2123
 Fire: Hunting sling     |       |    18 |    67 |    43 |   216 |       |       ||   344
       Greatsling        |       |       |       |       |   220 |   835 |   292 ||  1347
Throw: Stone             |       |       |       |       |    22 |     3 |       ||    25
Invok: Berserk           |     1 |     2 |     5 |     8 |    10 |     8 |     2 ||    36
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |     2 |     7 |     6 |       |       ||    15
       Burn Spellbooks   |       |       |     1 |       |     2 |       |       ||     3
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     5 |    21 |     9 |     5 |     1 ||    41
       Rod               |       |       |       |       |     3 |    10 |       ||    13
       Box of beasts     |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |       |     8 |     9 |    21 |    22 |     9 |     1 ||    70
       Potion            |       |     1 |       |    13 |     2 |     1 |       ||    17
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |     7 |    19 |    24 |    86 |    15 |       ||   151
       Distracted        |       |       |     1 |     2 |     4 |     3 |       ||    10
       Invisible         |       |       |       |     2 |     3 |       |       ||     5
  Eat: Chunk             |       |    11 |    14 |    33 |    47 |    39 |     8 ||   152
       Beef jerky        |       |       |     1 |     3 |     1 |       |       ||     5
       Pizza             |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |     3 |       ||     5
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Post Tuesday, 29th July 2014, 21:37

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

TeshiAlair wrote:2. I don't like short blades

Then why did you choose short blades?
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Post Tuesday, 29th July 2014, 22:41

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

I wouldn't ditch Trog. You can still use Hand for more MR when facing banishers or sentinels, for example. Also for regen. And bros are always useful when facing dangerous stuff. If you decide to do Slime, a bro or two for TRJ make it smooth. Also wrath is not nice.
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Post Tuesday, 29th July 2014, 23:03

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

Well whatever god you choose if you drop trog comes at the price of no TH, no brothers and paralysis and berserking giants.
I would say what you need from trog is "not paralysis/berserking giants" so I would stay with trog.

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Post Tuesday, 29th July 2014, 23:41

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

Fair enough. I've just never tried Jiyva before, and I've done at least 50 other stupid things this game.

Also, regarding choosing SB: because I just tried to go with Ko's strengths.
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Post Wednesday, 30th July 2014, 08:18

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

If you're going to keep doing everything wrong, why not go to Depths before Vaults or Slime? Depths always seem better for a ranged combatant to me than Vaults; more long, narrow hallways.
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Post Wednesday, 30th July 2014, 15:22

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

Stealth as a Kobold using Short Blades is a good idea, not weird at all.
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Post Wednesday, 30th July 2014, 17:27

Re: Now YASD KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

I actually did do Depths up to 3, and then Vaults up to 4, before deciding to do Slime for the first time ever. That was a HUGE mistake.

1. Slime is SO. IRRITATING.
2. I underestimated TRJ's summons. He died pretty fast, but I had assumed I was over the stairs. When that turned out to be wrong, I assumed I could berserk a hole through the slimes to get to the stairs, but the corrosion (even with rCorr) was too much.

YAVSD :(
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Post Wednesday, 30th July 2014, 17:29

Re: Now YASD KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

TeshiAlair wrote:I actually did do Depths up to 3, and then Vaults up to 4, before deciding to do Slime for the first time ever. That was a HUGE mistake.

1. Slime is SO. IRRITATING.
2. I underestimated TRJ's summons. He died pretty fast, but I had assumed I was over the stairs. When that turned out to be wrong, I assumed I could berserk a hole through the slimes to get to the stairs, but the corrosion (even with rCorr) was too much.

YAVSD :(

Had you used your scrolls of blinking up?
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Post Wednesday, 30th July 2014, 18:29

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

Slime of some sort was over the stairs, and my berserk reflexes were too innate :/
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Post Wednesday, 30th July 2014, 18:59

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

Sure, it wouldn't have gotten you to the stairs, but since TRJ was dead cTele was over, and a blink scroll or 2 might have gotten you away from the pack.
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Post Wednesday, 30th July 2014, 19:24

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

And you get away and read immolation scroll, and throw something at the weakest one. :-)
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Post Thursday, 31st July 2014, 16:11

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

This is why I don't play berserkers :(

Aside- does anyone else find it weird that immolation is not on auto-pickup, but vuln is?
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Post Saturday, 2nd August 2014, 18:11

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

Not particularly. Purple-texted items are meant to indicate items that can help but also have a risk of causing more harm than good, hence why they are kept off auto pickup by default. Vulnerability before the changes was always a net benefit, since it could pull you out of potentially fatal status effects. Now it just halves all MR in LOS at the cost of half your MR which, in the vast majority of scenarios, 1) isn't going to end you and 2) is going to affect more enemies than you.

Immolation, if you kill anything in melee range, will potentially damage you lethally.
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Post Saturday, 2nd August 2014, 19:03

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

well vuln is useful and immolation isnt, so theres that
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Post Saturday, 2nd August 2014, 21:50

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

Vulnerability good, immolation useless..

This is not the first time this minmay fella just shouts out his opinion without explaining it.
Please tell the forum, why immolation is useless and vulnerability is better scroll to have around. Most of us know the both scrolls have limited situations to use.

I do not need the answer. Some other people may.

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Post Saturday, 2nd August 2014, 21:57

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

Let me guess: you generally want to engage actually dangerous enemies 1 on 1 (and Crawl provides you with multiple ways to set that up) and immolation is actually actively harmful in that scenario. Vulnerability is not, if you use hex wands or spells.

Immo is fun though.
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Post Saturday, 2nd August 2014, 22:14

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

If that was personal then, yes you did guess.

Why the fuck would you assume that I (or anyone) would use immolation one-on-one against a dangerous opponent?
I was asking minmay to explain his views. Not your assumptions what i might think of those scrolls.

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Post Saturday, 2nd August 2014, 22:28

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

Sorry.

Edit: also it seems you misunderstood me but whatever.

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Post Saturday, 2nd August 2014, 22:42

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

I figured it was common knowledge, the same reason the inner flame spell is bad. To benefit from it you need to have a dangerous monster next to at least one not-dangerous monster that you can quickly kill at range. Most of the time you don't get the opportunity to set up that situation with a dangerous monster quickly enough that using inner flame actually makes the dangerous monster die faster (or if you do, you're probably fighting way too many monsters at once way too often). I suppose the spell is kind of okay with skeletons if you happen to find and learn both before it stops mattering.
I understand making shitloads of noise at the vaults:5 stairs is cool and fun, but that shouldn't be confused with being useful.
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Post Saturday, 2nd August 2014, 23:43

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

Well, In Orc you can go downstairs and be immediately in a very good position for a ?immolation (a bunch of regular orcs with some tougher ones in the middle). I wouldn't call it useless.
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Post Sunday, 3rd August 2014, 01:11

Re: CIP KoBe: DOING EVERYTHING WRONG

That might sometimes be true, but I find that nearly always you go downstairs in Orc and there are at least two or three weak orcs nearby and you make the situation more dangerous, or at least more annoying, by using scroll of mass inner flame. It can be fun but I generally haven't found it to be useful.

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