CIP: Hill Orc Gladiator of Beogh


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Shoals Surfer

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Joined: Tuesday, 24th September 2013, 17:52

Post Monday, 30th June 2014, 16:03

CIP: Hill Orc Gladiator of Beogh

Playing around with some of the recent Beogh changes in trunk. I have a huge mass of followers still, but Spider whittled them down a good bit. I used some +4 leather for a long time and only recently moved to my current +5 plate. I have some spells memorized, but nothing is castable at the moment. I'm planning to try and push through to the end of the game with my current holy axe. Also, the 10 necromancy was for the pain axe I used for a lot of the game. Anyone have any comments or suggestions? I'm thinking I should turn off fighting and go pure armor/axe/dodge for a while.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-1820-g7481755 (tiles) character file.

Tholi the Slayer (Hill Orc Gladiator)              Turns: 36291, Time: 03:26:53

HP 182/182       AC 37     Str 20      XL: 18   Next: 85%
MP  18/18        EV 11     Int  8      God: Beogh [******]
Gold 633         SH  0     Dex 20      Spells:  4 memorised,  1 level left

rFire  + . .     SeeInvis .     a - +5 executioner's axe (holy)
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     F - +5 plate armour {MR+}
rNeg   . . .     rCorr    .     (no shield)
rPois  .         rRot     .     N - +2 helmet {rF+}
rElec  .         Spirit   .     q - +0 cloak
SustAb .         Warding  .     h - +2 pair of gloves {Dex+3}
rMut   +         Stasis   .     E - +0 pair of boots
Gourm  .                        n - amulet of resist mutation
MR     ++...                    p - +3 ring of slaying
                                W - ring of regeneration

@: very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: walk on water, yellow scales 1
a: Smiting, Recall Orcish Followers, Give Item to Named Follower, Renounce
Religion
}: 1/15 runes: gossamer


You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Beogh.
Beogh is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and seen 33 of its levels.
You have also visited: Sewer, Ice Cave and Volcano.

You have collected 3140 gold pieces.
You have spent 2507 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +5 executioner's axe of holy wrath (weapon)
 b - a +0 blowgun
 c - the +5 war axe "Fotwuu Napa" {pain, Int+2}
   (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)   
   
   In the hands of one skilled in necromantic magic, it inflicts extra damage
   on living creatures.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
Missiles
 w - 25 tomahawks
 B - 16 curare-tipped needles
 G - 4 tomahawks of returning (quivered)
Armour
 h - a +2 pair of gloves of dexterity (worn)
 q - a +0 cloak (worn)
 E - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
 F - a +5 plate armour of magic resistance (worn)
 N - a +2 helmet of fire resistance (worn)
Magical devices
 H - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 3}
 U - a wand of heal wounds (4)
Comestibles
 f - 14 meat rations
 S - a chunk of porcupine flesh
Scrolls
 o - 6 scrolls of teleportation
 A - 2 scrolls of fear
 D - a scroll of summoning
 K - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 R - 5 scrolls of fog
Jewellery
 i - an uncursed ring of teleport control
 n - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
 p - a +3 ring of slaying (right hand)
 s - an uncursed ring of positive energy
 y - the ring of Clecrir {rC+ Str+2 Dex+3}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Spider Nest)   
   
   [ring of protection from cold]
   
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It protects you from cold.
 z - an uncursed ring of flight
 L - an uncursed ring of invisibility
 O - an uncursed ring of positive energy
 P - an uncursed amulet of stasis
 Q - an uncursed ring of teleportation
 W - a ring of regeneration (left hand)
Potions
 g - 4 potions of might
 j - 11 potions of curing
 l - 3 potions of agility
 v - 11 potions of heal wounds
 J - 2 potions of haste


   Skills:
 + Level 21.1 Fighting
 + Level 20.6 Axes
 - Level 9.5 Throwing
 + Level 14.6 Armour
 + Level 11.5 Dodging
   Level 6.9 Shields
 - Level 10.0 Necromancy


You have one spell level left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Simulacrum            Ice/Necr       #.........   100%        6    #######
b - Flight                Chrm/Air       #.........   100%        3    ####...
c - Shadow Creatures      Summ           N/A          100%        5    ######.
d - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          100%        2    ###....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4             Orc (4/4) D:12
    Elf (0/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:11          Swamp (0/5) Lair:6
 Spider (5/5) Lair:4        Slime (0/6) Lair:8       Vaults (0/5) D:14
 Depths (0/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:4 *   D:5 [   D:7 (*=!=   D:8 %   D:9 *   D:11 (   Orc:2 %   Orc:3 [   Orc:4 [*(:

Portals:
Hell: Lair:8


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can walk on water.
You are partially covered in yellow scales (AC +2).

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | Tholi, the Hill Orc Gladiator, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 1/1
   226 | D:1      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
   311 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 22/25 MP: 2/2
   924 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 3/3
  1613 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
  1964 | D:2      | Gained mutation: You have a fast metabolism. [potion of mutation]
  1964 | D:2      | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little easier to cast, but a little less powerful. [potion of mutation]
  1964 | D:2      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in icy blue scales (AC +1). [potion of mutation]
  2148 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 31/39 MP: 4/4
  2367 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 42/46 MP: 5/5
  2457 | D:3      | Found a glowing drain.
  2509 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  2576 | Sewer    | Noticed a crocodile
  2593 | Sewer    | Killed a crocodile
  2593 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 5 in Axes
  2619 | Sewer    | Got a steaming leather armour
  2640 | Sewer    | Identified the +4 leather armour of the Kangaroo {rF+ rC+} (You found it in a sewer)
  2767 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 53/53 MP: 6/6
  3241 | D:3      | Became a worshipper of Beogh the Brigand
  3409 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  3465 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Axes
  3465 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 61/61 MP: 7/7
  4018 | D:4      | Acquired Beogh's first power
  4151 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4163 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  4245 | D:4      | Found Olierph's Assorted Antiques.
  4249 | D:4      | Bought a pair of embroidered gloves for 135 gold pieces
  4249 | D:4      | Bought a white potion for 27 gold pieces
  4249 | D:4      | Bought a viscous purple potion for 27 gold pieces
  4249 | D:4      | Bought a murky pink potion for 27 gold pieces
  4249 | D:4      | Bought a green potion for 27 gold pieces
  4570 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4596 | D:5      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  4660 | D:5      | Found Moext's Armour Emporium.
  4677 | D:5      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  4689 | D:5      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  5595 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 60/70 MP: 8/8
  5620 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Axes
  6069 | D:6      | Noticed Natasha
  6084 | D:6      | Killed Natasha
  6114 | D:6      | Noticed Grinder
  6134 | D:6      | Paralysed by Grinder for 7 turns
  6146 | D:6      | Paralysed by Grinder for 3 turns
  6166 | D:6      | Killed Grinder
  6166 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing
  6166 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  6201 | D:6      | Noticed Menkaure
  6206 | D:6      | Killed Menkaure
  6344 | D:6      | Noticed Natasha
  6353 | D:6      | Killed Natasha
  6392 | D:6      | Noticed Natasha
  6396 | D:6      | Killed Natasha
  6816 | D:7      | Reached skill level 8 in Axes
  6910 | D:7      | Found Unegor's Distillery.
  6921 | D:7      | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 39 gold pieces
  6921 | D:7      | Bought a potion of confusion for 13 gold pieces
  6921 | D:7      | Bought a potion of curing for 26 gold pieces
  6921 | D:7      | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 39 gold pieces
  6934 | D:7      | Found Vaonwyrgh's Jewellery Shoppe.
  7118 | D:7      | Found Ghit's Antique Weapon Boutique.
  7147 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 45/79 MP: 9/9
  7190 | D:7      | Found Pseerr's General Store.
  7194 | D:7      | Acquired Beogh's second power
  7211 | D:7      | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces
  7266 | D:7      | Found Psoanwiw's Jewellery Emporium.
  7675 | D:7      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  7759 | D:8      | Reached skill level 9 in Axes
  8098 | D:8      | Found Fruaquv's Food Shoppe.
  8150 | D:8      | Noticed Erolcha
  8195 | D:8      | Killed Erolcha
  8310 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Axes
  8310 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 28/91 MP: 10/10
  9047 | D:8      | Acquired Beogh's third power
  9307 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
  9823 | D:9      | Noticed Pikel
  9846 | D:9      | Killed Pikel
  9846 | D:9      | Reached skill level 11 in Fighting
 10184 | D:9      | Found Styn's Assorted Antiques.
 10193 | D:9      | Bought a scroll labeled TWUETRUXAP for 30 gold pieces
 10213 | D:9      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
 10233 | D:9      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
 10287 | D:9      | Got a crude war axe
 10288 | D:9      | Identified the +5 war axe "Fotwuu Napa" {pain, Int+2} (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)
 10610 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 10902 | D:10     | Acquired Beogh's fourth power
 10907 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 78/104 MP: 11/11
 11044 | D:10     | Reached skill level 12 in Fighting
 11229 | D:10     | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 6 turns
 11575 | D:11     | Gained Harm as an ally
 12163 | D:11     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 12170 | D:11     | Killed a centaur warrior
 12273 | D:11     | Found Saanaak's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
 12288 | D:11     | Your ally Harm died
 12592 | D:11     | Reached skill level 13 in Fighting
 12766 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 12804 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 13254 | D:12     | Acquired Beogh's fifth power
 13260 | D:12     | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 13423 | D:12     | Learned a level 6 spell: Simulacrum
 13445 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 13483 | D:12     | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy
 13727 | D:12     | Gained Olfik as an ally
 13727 | D:12     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 90/116 MP: 12/12
 13896 | D:12     | Reached skill level 14 in Fighting
 13924 | D:12     | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 14301 | Lair:1   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 14415 | Lair:1   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 14421 | Lair:1   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 14495 | Lair:1   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 14554 | Lair:1   | Got a faintly glowing leather armour
 14565 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 15102 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy
 15517 | Lair:2   | Noticed Harold
 15524 | Lair:2   | Killed Harold
 15524 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 62/128 MP: 13/13
 15825 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 16 in Fighting
 16007 | Lair:2   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 16012 | Lair:2   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 16307 | Lair:3   | Identified the +2 leather armour of Khitui {rF+ SInv} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
 16662 | Lair:3   | Gained Bogrim as an ally
 17513 | Lair:4   | Gained Worak as an ally
 17554 | Lair:4   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 17846 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 15 in Axes
 17897 | Lair:4   | Gained Nordag as an ally
 17977 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 17 in Fighting
 18287 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 98/140 MP: 14/14
 18563 | Lair:4   | Lost mutation: Your spells are a little easier to cast, but a little less powerful. [potion of cure mutation]
 18563 | Lair:4   | Lost mutation: You are partially covered in icy blue scales (AC +1). [potion of cure mutation]
 18563 | Lair:4   | Lost mutation: You have a fast metabolism. [potion of cure mutation]
 19010 | Lair:5   | Got a shimmering halberd
 19013 | Lair:5   | Identified the cursed -2 halberd "Yjuvilit" {freeze, rElec Str-2} (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
 19052 | Lair:5   | Noticed Fannar
 19064 | Lair:5   | Killed Fannar
 19918 | Lair:5   | Identified a +4 rod of inaccuracy (12/12) (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
 20303 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 20413 | Lair:6   | Got a transparent battleaxe
 20429 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 20587 | Lair:6   | Noticed Nergalle
 20598 | Lair:6   | Killed Nergalle
 21539 | Lair:7   | Identified the cursed -1 battleaxe of Dischord {pain, +Inv MR++ Str-2} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 21560 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 21575 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 18 in Fighting
 21591 | Lair:8   | Found a frozen archway.
 21605 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 22138 | IceCv    | Reached XP level 15. HP: 149/149 MP: 15/15
 22300 | IceCv    | Noticed a frost giant
 22324 | IceCv    | Killed a frost giant
 22608 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 10 in Necromancy
 23183 | Lair:8   | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 23206 | Lair:8   | Found a gateway to Hell.
 23670 | Lair:8   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 24378 | D:12     | Killed a five-headed hydra
 24662 | D:13     | Noticed Psyche
 24667 | D:13     | Killed Psyche
 24667 | D:13     | Reached XP level 16. HP: 149/159 MP: 16/16
 24991 | D:13     | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 25016 | D:13     | Reached skill level 19 in Fighting
 25570 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 26172 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 26434 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 27064 | D:15     | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 27312 | D:15     | Learned a level 3 spell: Flight
 27318 | D:15     | Learned a level 5 spell: Shadow Creatures
 27516 | Lair:1   | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-1675-g4580af5 to 0.15-a0-1688-g9be5eb2
 27623 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 27797 | Orc:2    | Noticed Snorg
 27802 | Orc:2    | Killed Snorg
 27950 | Orc:2    | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 28049 | Orc:2    | Found Edditweo's Food Shop.
 28129 | Orc:1    | Gained Spirok as an ally
 28828 | Orc:3    | Found Prarch's Antique Armour Shoppe.
 28838 | Orc:3    | Bought an ancient plate armour for 840 gold pieces
 28838 | Orc:3    | Bought a pair of slimy gloves for 285 gold pieces
 28838 | Orc:3    | Bought a pair of embroidered gloves for 135 gold pieces
 28842 | Orc:3    | Identified the cursed -3 pair of gloves "Psoubb" {Str-4 Int+2} (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Orcish Mines)
 28947 | Orc:3    | Noticed Sonja
 28952 | Orc:3    | Noticed Erica
 28955 | Orc:3    | Killed Sonja
 28974 | Orc:3    | Killed Erica
 29091 | Orc:3    | Gained Thorok as an ally
 29120 | Orc:3    | Gained Zartorak as an ally
 29181 | Orc:3    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 29529 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 29546 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 29570 | Orc:4    | Paralysed by an orc sorcerer for 4 turns
 29588 | Orc:4    | Gained Boghold as an ally
 29649 | Orc:4    | Found a dark tunnel.
 29662 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 30073 | Orc:4    | Reached XP level 17. HP: 165/169 MP: 17/17
 30089 | Orc:4    | Your ally Worak died
 30221 | Orc:4    | Found Nyvaqitt's General Store.
 30222 | Orc:4    | Found Qaudaal's Book Shoppe.
 30223 | Orc:4    | Found Pujieb's Antique Armour Emporium.
 30223 | Orc:4    | Found Tiliwa Doec's Antique Weapon Emporium.
 30237 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 32 gold pieces
 30252 | Orc:4    | Bought a slimy chain mail for 313 gold pieces
 30253 | Orc:4    | Identified the cursed -8 plate armour of Boredom {Slay+5} (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Orcish Mines)
 30255 | Orc:4    | Bought an ichor-stained scimitar for 243 gold pieces
 30256 | Orc:4    | Identified the +10 scimitar of Amorality {antimagic, rC+} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
 30260 | Orc:4    | Bought a bone cutlass for 243 gold pieces
 30672 | Lair:1   | Identified the +8 cutlass of Entrepreneurial Spirit {slice, MR+} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
 30811 | Lair:1   | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-1688-g9be5eb2 to 0.15-a0-1707-ge4b2048
 30823 | Lair:1   | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-1707-ge4b2048 to 0.15-a0-1712-g7e4c62d
 30916 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 30924 | Spider:1 | Noticed Donald
 30930 | Spider:1 | Killed Donald
 30930 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 20 in Fighting
 30980 | Spider:1 | Gained Orik as an ally
 31176 | Spider:1 | Got a smoking turquoise ring
 31341 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 31347 | Spider:2 | Your ally Thorok died
 31492 | Spider:2 | Your ally Orik died
 31519 | Spider:2 | Killed Aizul
 31532 | Spider:2 | Gained Bogwald as an ally
 31542 | Spider:2 | Gained Ognian as an ally
 31968 | Spider:2 | Noticed Roxanne
 31980 | Spider:2 | Killed Roxanne
 31982 | Spider:2 | Identified Roxanne's Reference Book on the Mountains (You took it off Roxanne on level 2 of the Spider Nest)
 32127 | Spider:2 | Gained Borgun as an ally
 32504 | Spider:3 | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-1712-g7e4c62d to 0.15-a0-1797-g3451b8d
 32515 | Spider:3 | Gained Brandogh as an ally
 32547 | Spider:3 | Gained Borgun as an ally
 32561 | Spider:3 | Your ally Ognian died
 32563 | Spider:3 | Your ally Borgun died
 32664 | Spider:3 | Identified the ring of Clecrir {rC+ Str+2 Dex+3} (You found it on level 1 of the Spider Nest)
 32697 | Spider:3 | Paralysed by a red wasp for 4 turns
 32822 | Spider:3 | Your ally Borgun died
 32826 | Spider:3 | Your ally Boghold died
 32954 | Spider:3 | Your ally Brandogh died
 32960 | Spider:3 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 116/180 MP: 0/18
 32968 | Spider:3 | Gained Murdo as an ally
 33488 | Spider:4 | Gained Margrim as an ally
 33519 | Spider:4 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
 33589 | Spider:4 | Gained Orkrul as an ally
 33590 | Spider:4 | Gained Bolgrim as an ally
 33890 | Spider:4 | Gained Brunolf as an ally
 33902 | Spider:4 | Noticed Arachne
 33909 | Spider:4 | Killed Arachne
 34247 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest
 34263 | Spider:5 | Gained Boghold as an ally
 34302 | Spider:5 | Your ally Boghold died
 34545 | Spider:5 | Gained Beowulf as an ally
 35072 | Spider:5 | Your ally Spirok died
 35321 | Spider:5 | Your ally Bolgrim died
 35399 | Spider:5 | Gained Orkwin as an ally
 35468 | Spider:5 | Reached skill level 21 in Fighting
 35743 | Spider:5 | Paralysed by a red wasp for 4 turns
 35940 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
 36288 | Lair:1   | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-1797-g3451b8d to 0.15-a0-1820-g7481755
 36290 | Lair:1   | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in yellow scales (AC +2). [potion of beneficial mutation]


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: War axe           |   125 |   187 |   384 |   570 |   753 |   433 ||  2452
       Staff             |       |       |       |       |   101 |       ||   101
       Executioner's axe |       |       |       |       |       |   331 ||   331
Throw: Stone             |     7 |     4 |    13 |       |       |       ||    24
       Throwing net      |     1 |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     2
       Javelin           |       |       |    17 |    13 |       |       ||    30
       Tomahawk          |       |       |       |    20 |    35 |    17 ||    72
Invok: Convert to Beogh  |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Recall Orcish Fol |       |       |       |     7 |    14 |    36 ||    57
       Give Item to Name |       |       |       |       |       |     4 ||     4
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |    10 |     4 |    12 |     4 ||    30
  Use: Scroll            |     9 |     6 |    11 |    13 |    11 |    21 ||    71
       Potion            |     1 |     1 |     3 |     4 |     4 |     8 ||    21
 Stab: Paralysed         |       |       |     6 |       |       |       ||     6
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     3 |     6 |    17 ||    26
       Fleeing           |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Sleeping          |       |       |       |       |     3 |     1 ||     4
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Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Monday, 30th June 2014, 17:28

Re: CIP: Hill Orc Gladiator of Beogh

if you're going to use an executioner's axe, the min delay is at 26 skill, so I'd do that first, then go back into armor/dodging. On a slower weapon like 2h axes, I'd say that pain isn't really that strong with 10 necro, and it's probably not best to train necromancy for the brand alone. On a faster weapon it might be worth training for only the brand, but I usually want to have some necromancy spells too. Pure fighter types can benefit from easy cheap minions through animate dead, and regeneration is always great, although in plate you might need to also train charms for that one. In either case, you can just ignore casting if you don't want to branch out. You definitely need the axe skill first, and then armor/dodging afterwards would be a good idea.

Slime Squisher

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Post Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 05:34

Re: CIP: Hill Orc Gladiator of Beogh

I would raise axes to 16 then learn some spells

Also don't memorize random spells that you can't and don't intend to cast

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Shoals Surfer

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Post Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 14:05

Re: CIP: Hill Orc Gladiator of Beogh

My axe skill is 20.6 in the dump. I intend to eventually cast everything I have memorized except simulacrum. I memorized it to unlock necromancy for the pain axe I was using. I recently acquired regeneration, so that'll make it quite a bit stronger than it would otherwise be.
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Post Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 21:48

Re: CIP: Hill Orc Gladiator of Beogh

You need 26 skill to make an executioner's axe effective. It's not that you can't kill things with 20 axe skill, it's just considerably worse than 26. At 20 your attack speed is 10 aut, at 26 it's 7 aut, so you're basically 30% hasted all the time passively with no contamination. It's really, really absurdly strong.

Training necromancy for both a pain weapon and regeneration is probably worth it. However, there are probably zero cases where it's a good idea to train necromancy for Simulacrum on a hill orc with 8 int who wears plate. You will NOT get that castable in any reasonable amount of time. You'd need somewhere around 18 to 20 in both necromancy and ice, and it's just not worth it. Since you already have some necromancy, you can train a few ranks of charms, and maybe some more necromancy (to 15ish) to get regeneration online. Regeneration is very worth it to melee types, Simulacrum generally isn't. Do all of this magic training only after you have axes 26.

Edit: noticed you are no longer using the pain axe (which is the right call, because the base type is worse than executioner's), so when training for regeneration, keep charms/necro more even rather than raising necro a lot more.

Shoals Surfer

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Post Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 22:39

Re: CIP: Hill Orc Gladiator of Beogh

tasonir wrote:You need 26 skill to make an executioner's axe effective. It's not that you can't kill things with 20 axe skill, it's just considerably worse than 26. At 20 your attack speed is 10 aut, at 26 it's 7 aut, so you're basically 30% hasted all the time passively with no contamination. It's really, really absurdly strong.

Training necromancy for both a pain weapon and regeneration is probably worth it. However, there are probably zero cases where it's a good idea to train necromancy for Simulacrum on a hill orc with 8 int who wears plate. You will NOT get that castable in any reasonable amount of time. You'd need somewhere around 18 to 20 in both necromancy and ice, and it's just not worth it. Since you already have some necromancy, you can train a few ranks of charms, and maybe some more necromancy (to 15ish) to get regeneration online. Regeneration is very worth it to melee types, Simulacrum generally isn't. Do all of this magic training only after you have axes 26.

Edit: noticed you are no longer using the pain axe (which is the right call, because the base type is worse than executioner's), so when training for regeneration, keep charms/necro more even rather than raising necro a lot more.


I wasn't advocating stopping axe training, I was pointing out that Jack was telling me to get axes to 16 when it was already above 20. In retrospect, he probably made a typo. :P I have 26 axes in the new dump below. As I said, I only memorized simulacrum so I could train necromancy (it was the only necro spell available at the time I found that pain axe) and have 0 intention of ever getting it castable. I've actually already used an amnesia scroll to remove it since I have regeneration. I've been working on other spell skills as well, but my spell power is absolutely horrible due to (I assume) my very low intelligence on this orc. I'll probably scum Pan a bit before grabbing the orb. I'm not sure if I'm going to try 15 runes on this guy yet. That +9 holy axe of mine is telling me to go for it. Thanks for the input, by the way.

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-1842-g1980f02 (tiles) character file.

Tholi the Executioner (Hill Orc Gladiator)         Turns: 61103, Time: 06:18:15

HP 235/235       AC 48     Str 22      XL: 25   Next: 65%
MP  32/32        EV 17     Int  8      God: Beogh [******]
Gold 2597        SH  0     Dex 22      Spells:  8 memorised, 10 levels left

rFire  + + .     SeeInvis .     a - +9 executioner's axe (holy)
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     r - +11 plate armour of the Other Side {rF+}
rNeg   . . .     rCorr    .     (no shield)
rPois  +         rRot     .     N - +2 helmet {rF+}
rElec  .         Spirit   .     M - +2 cloak {rPois}
SustAb .         Warding  .     h - +2 pair of gloves {Dex+3}
rMut   +         Stasis   .     E - +0 pair of boots
Gourm  .                        n - amulet of resist mutation
MR     +....                    p - +3 ring of slaying
                                W - ring of regeneration

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: walk on water, yellow scales 1
a: Smiting, Recall Orcish Followers, Give Item to Named Follower, Renounce
Religion
}: 3/15 runes: decaying, abyssal, gossamer


You are on level 2 of the Depths.
You worship Beogh.
Beogh is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 11 branches of the dungeon, and seen 51 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 2 times.
You have also visited: Sewer, Ice Cave and Volcano.

You have collected 7422 gold pieces.
You have spent 4825 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +9 executioner's axe of holy wrath (weapon)
 b - a +0 blowgun
Missiles
 w - 103 tomahawks (quivered)
 B - 29 curare-tipped needles
Armour
 h - a +2 pair of gloves of dexterity (worn)
 r - the +11 plate armour of the Other Side (worn) {rF+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Vaults)   
   
   It protects you from fire.
 E - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
 M - a +2 cloak of poison resistance (worn)
 N - a +2 helmet of fire resistance (worn)
Magical devices
 O - a wand of teleportation
 T - a wand of disintegration
 U - a wand of heal wounds (4)
Comestibles
 f - 23 meat rations
 s - a slice of pizza
 C - a bread ration
 F - a fruit
 H - a beef jerky
Scrolls
 c - a scroll of remove curse
 o - 15 scrolls of teleportation
 q - 2 scrolls of brand weapon
 u - a scroll of holy word
 G - 2 scrolls of blinking
 K - 4 scrolls of magic mapping
 R - 6 scrolls of fog
 S - 2 scrolls of amnesia
 Y - 5 scrolls of identify
 Z - 3 scrolls of fear
Jewellery
 d - an uncursed amulet of clarity
 i - an uncursed ring of teleport control
 n - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
 p - a +3 ring of slaying (right hand)
 x - an uncursed amulet of warding
 y - the ring of Clecrir {rC+ Str+2 Dex+3}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Spider Nest)   
   
   [ring of protection from cold]
   
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It protects you from cold.
 z - an uncursed ring of flight
 I - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
 L - an uncursed ring of invisibility
 P - an uncursed amulet of stasis
 Q - an uncursed ring of teleportation
 W - a ring of regeneration (left hand)
 X - an uncursed amulet of faith
Potions
 e - a potion of porridge
 g - 7 potions of might
 j - 20 potions of curing
 k - a potion of berserk rage
 l - 6 potions of agility
 m - 3 potions of resistance
 v - 11 potions of heal wounds
 J - 5 potions of haste
Miscellaneous
 t - a box of beasts
 A - a lamp of fire
 V - a box of beasts


   Skills:
 - Level 21.1 Fighting
 - Level 26.0 Axes
 - Level 9.5 Throwing
 - Level 20.0 Armour
 - Level 14.4 Dodging
   Level 6.9 Shields
 - Level 5.0 Spellcasting
 - Level 11.1 Charms
 + Level 12.7 Summonings
 - Level 10.0 Necromancy
 - Level 10.0 Translocations


You have 10 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
b - Flight                Chrm/Air       ##........   56%         3    ###....
c - Shadow Creatures      Summ           N/A          24%         5    ######.
d - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          4%          2    ##.....
e - Cure Poison           Pois           #.........   99%         2    ##.....
f - Apportation           Tloc           ###.......   2%          1    #......
g - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ###.......   10%         3    ###....
h - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       ##....       28%         2    ##.....
i - Haste                 Chrm           ###.....     100%        6    #######


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4             Orc (4/4) D:12
    Elf (3/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:11          Swamp (5/5) Lair:6
 Spider (5/5) Lair:4        Slime (0/6) Lair:8       Vaults (4/5) D:14
  Crypt (3/3) Vaults:2       Tomb (0/3) Crypt:3        Hell (1/1)
    Dis (0/7) Hell            Geh (0/7) Hell            Coc (0/7) Hell
    Tar (0/7) Hell         Depths (2/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:4 *   D:5 [   D:7 (*=!=   D:8 %   D:9 *   D:11 (   Orc:2 %   Orc:3 [   Orc:4 [*(:   Elf:2 [   Elf:3 (   Vaults:1 (   Vaults:2 (%(   Vaults:4 [

Portals:
Hell: Lair:8 Depths:1 Depths:2
Abyss: Depths:2


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can walk on water.
You are partially covered in yellow scales (AC +2).

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Tholi, the Hill Orc Gladiator, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 1/1
   226 | D:1      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
   311 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 22/25 MP: 2/2
   924 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 3/3
  1613 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
  1964 | D:2      | Gained mutation: You have a fast metabolism. [potion of mutation]
  1964 | D:2      | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little easier to cast, but a little less powerful. [potion of mutation]
  1964 | D:2      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in icy blue scales (AC +1). [potion of mutation]
  2148 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 31/39 MP: 4/4
  2367 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 42/46 MP: 5/5
  2457 | D:3      | Found a glowing drain.
  2509 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  2576 | Sewer    | Noticed a crocodile
  2593 | Sewer    | Killed a crocodile
  2593 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 5 in Axes
  2619 | Sewer    | Got a steaming leather armour
  2640 | Sewer    | Identified the +4 leather armour of the Kangaroo {rF+ rC+} (You found it in a sewer)
  2767 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 53/53 MP: 6/6
  3241 | D:3      | Became a worshipper of Beogh the Brigand
  3409 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  3465 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Axes
  3465 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 61/61 MP: 7/7
  4018 | D:4      | Acquired Beogh's first power
  4151 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4163 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  4245 | D:4      | Found Olierph's Assorted Antiques.
  4249 | D:4      | Bought a pair of embroidered gloves for 135 gold pieces
  4249 | D:4      | Bought a white potion for 27 gold pieces
  4249 | D:4      | Bought a viscous purple potion for 27 gold pieces
  4249 | D:4      | Bought a murky pink potion for 27 gold pieces
  4249 | D:4      | Bought a green potion for 27 gold pieces
  4570 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4596 | D:5      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  4660 | D:5      | Found Moext's Armour Emporium.
  4677 | D:5      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  4689 | D:5      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  5595 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 60/70 MP: 8/8
  5620 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Axes
  6069 | D:6      | Noticed Natasha
  6084 | D:6      | Killed Natasha
  6114 | D:6      | Noticed Grinder
  6134 | D:6      | Paralysed by Grinder for 7 turns
  6146 | D:6      | Paralysed by Grinder for 3 turns
  6166 | D:6      | Killed Grinder
  6166 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing
  6166 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  6201 | D:6      | Noticed Menkaure
  6206 | D:6      | Killed Menkaure
  6344 | D:6      | Noticed Natasha
  6353 | D:6      | Killed Natasha
  6392 | D:6      | Noticed Natasha
  6396 | D:6      | Killed Natasha
  6816 | D:7      | Reached skill level 8 in Axes
  6910 | D:7      | Found Unegor's Distillery.
  6921 | D:7      | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 39 gold pieces
  6921 | D:7      | Bought a potion of confusion for 13 gold pieces
  6921 | D:7      | Bought a potion of curing for 26 gold pieces
  6921 | D:7      | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 39 gold pieces
  6934 | D:7      | Found Vaonwyrgh's Jewellery Shoppe.
  7118 | D:7      | Found Ghit's Antique Weapon Boutique.
  7147 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 45/79 MP: 9/9
  7190 | D:7      | Found Pseerr's General Store.
  7194 | D:7      | Acquired Beogh's second power
  7211 | D:7      | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces
  7266 | D:7      | Found Psoanwiw's Jewellery Emporium.
  7675 | D:7      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  7759 | D:8      | Reached skill level 9 in Axes
  8098 | D:8      | Found Fruaquv's Food Shoppe.
  8150 | D:8      | Noticed Erolcha
  8195 | D:8      | Killed Erolcha
  8310 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Axes
  8310 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 28/91 MP: 10/10
  9047 | D:8      | Acquired Beogh's third power
  9307 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
  9823 | D:9      | Noticed Pikel
  9846 | D:9      | Killed Pikel
  9846 | D:9      | Reached skill level 11 in Fighting
 10184 | D:9      | Found Styn's Assorted Antiques.
 10193 | D:9      | Bought a scroll labeled TWUETRUXAP for 30 gold pieces
 10213 | D:9      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
 10233 | D:9      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
 10287 | D:9      | Got a crude war axe
 10288 | D:9      | Identified the +5 war axe "Fotwuu Napa" {pain, Int+2} (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)
 10610 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 10902 | D:10     | Acquired Beogh's fourth power
 10907 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 78/104 MP: 11/11
 11044 | D:10     | Reached skill level 12 in Fighting
 11229 | D:10     | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 6 turns
 11575 | D:11     | Gained Harm as an ally
 12163 | D:11     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 12170 | D:11     | Killed a centaur warrior
 12273 | D:11     | Found Saanaak's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
 12288 | D:11     | Your ally Harm died
 12592 | D:11     | Reached skill level 13 in Fighting
 12766 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 12804 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 13254 | D:12     | Acquired Beogh's fifth power
 13260 | D:12     | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 13423 | D:12     | Learned a level 6 spell: Simulacrum
 13445 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 13483 | D:12     | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy
 13727 | D:12     | Gained Olfik as an ally
 13727 | D:12     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 90/116 MP: 12/12
 13896 | D:12     | Reached skill level 14 in Fighting
 13924 | D:12     | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 14301 | Lair:1   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 14415 | Lair:1   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 14421 | Lair:1   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 14495 | Lair:1   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 14554 | Lair:1   | Got a faintly glowing leather armour
 14565 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 15102 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy
 15517 | Lair:2   | Noticed Harold
 15524 | Lair:2   | Killed Harold
 15524 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 62/128 MP: 13/13
 15825 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 16 in Fighting
 16007 | Lair:2   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 16012 | Lair:2   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 16307 | Lair:3   | Identified the +2 leather armour of Khitui {rF+ SInv} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
 16662 | Lair:3   | Gained Bogrim as an ally
 17513 | Lair:4   | Gained Worak as an ally
 17554 | Lair:4   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 17846 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 15 in Axes
 17897 | Lair:4   | Gained Nordag as an ally
 17977 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 17 in Fighting
 18287 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 98/140 MP: 14/14
 18563 | Lair:4   | Lost mutation: Your spells are a little easier to cast, but a little less powerful. [potion of cure mutation]
 18563 | Lair:4   | Lost mutation: You are partially covered in icy blue scales (AC +1). [potion of cure mutation]
 18563 | Lair:4   | Lost mutation: You have a fast metabolism. [potion of cure mutation]
 19010 | Lair:5   | Got a shimmering halberd
 19013 | Lair:5   | Identified the cursed -2 halberd "Yjuvilit" {freeze, rElec Str-2} (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
 19052 | Lair:5   | Noticed Fannar
 19064 | Lair:5   | Killed Fannar
 19918 | Lair:5   | Identified a +4 rod of inaccuracy (12/12) (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
 20303 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 20413 | Lair:6   | Got a transparent battleaxe
 20429 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 20587 | Lair:6   | Noticed Nergalle
 20598 | Lair:6   | Killed Nergalle
 21539 | Lair:7   | Identified the cursed -1 battleaxe of Dischord {pain, +Inv MR++ Str-2} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 21560 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 21575 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 18 in Fighting
 21591 | Lair:8   | Found a frozen archway.
 21605 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 22138 | IceCv    | Reached XP level 15. HP: 149/149 MP: 15/15
 22300 | IceCv    | Noticed a frost giant
 22324 | IceCv    | Killed a frost giant
 22608 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 10 in Necromancy
 23183 | Lair:8   | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 23206 | Lair:8   | Found a gateway to Hell.
 23670 | Lair:8   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 24378 | D:12     | Killed a five-headed hydra
 24662 | D:13     | Noticed Psyche
 24667 | D:13     | Killed Psyche
 24667 | D:13     | Reached XP level 16. HP: 149/159 MP: 16/16
 24991 | D:13     | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 25016 | D:13     | Reached skill level 19 in Fighting
 25570 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 26172 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 26434 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 27064 | D:15     | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 27312 | D:15     | Learned a level 3 spell: Flight
 27318 | D:15     | Learned a level 5 spell: Shadow Creatures
 27516 | Lair:1   | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-1675-g4580af5 to 0.15-a0-1688-g9be5eb2
 27623 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 27797 | Orc:2    | Noticed Snorg
 27802 | Orc:2    | Killed Snorg
 27950 | Orc:2    | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 28049 | Orc:2    | Found Edditweo's Food Shop.
 28129 | Orc:1    | Gained Spirok as an ally
 28828 | Orc:3    | Found Prarch's Antique Armour Shoppe.
 28838 | Orc:3    | Bought an ancient plate armour for 840 gold pieces
 28838 | Orc:3    | Bought a pair of slimy gloves for 285 gold pieces
 28838 | Orc:3    | Bought a pair of embroidered gloves for 135 gold pieces
 28842 | Orc:3    | Identified the cursed -3 pair of gloves "Psoubb" {Str-4 Int+2} (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Orcish Mines)
 28947 | Orc:3    | Noticed Sonja
 28952 | Orc:3    | Noticed Erica
 28955 | Orc:3    | Killed Sonja
 28974 | Orc:3    | Killed Erica
 29091 | Orc:3    | Gained Thorok as an ally
 29120 | Orc:3    | Gained Zartorak as an ally
 29181 | Orc:3    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 29529 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 29546 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 29570 | Orc:4    | Paralysed by an orc sorcerer for 4 turns
 29588 | Orc:4    | Gained Boghold as an ally
 29649 | Orc:4    | Found a dark tunnel.
 29662 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 30073 | Orc:4    | Reached XP level 17. HP: 165/169 MP: 17/17
 30089 | Orc:4    | Your ally Worak died
 30221 | Orc:4    | Found Nyvaqitt's General Store.
 30222 | Orc:4    | Found Qaudaal's Book Shoppe.
 30223 | Orc:4    | Found Pujieb's Antique Armour Emporium.
 30223 | Orc:4    | Found Tiliwa Doec's Antique Weapon Emporium.
 30237 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 32 gold pieces
 30252 | Orc:4    | Bought a slimy chain mail for 313 gold pieces
 30253 | Orc:4    | Identified the cursed -8 plate armour of Boredom {Slay+5} (You bought it in a shop on level 3 of the Orcish Mines)
 30255 | Orc:4    | Bought an ichor-stained scimitar for 243 gold pieces
 30256 | Orc:4    | Identified the +10 scimitar of Amorality {antimagic, rC+} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
 30260 | Orc:4    | Bought a bone cutlass for 243 gold pieces
 30672 | Lair:1   | Identified the +8 cutlass of Entrepreneurial Spirit {slice, MR+} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
 30811 | Lair:1   | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-1688-g9be5eb2 to 0.15-a0-1707-ge4b2048
 30823 | Lair:1   | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-1707-ge4b2048 to 0.15-a0-1712-g7e4c62d
 30916 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 30924 | Spider:1 | Noticed Donald
 30930 | Spider:1 | Killed Donald
 30930 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 20 in Fighting
 30980 | Spider:1 | Gained Orik as an ally
 31176 | Spider:1 | Got a smoking turquoise ring
 31341 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 31347 | Spider:2 | Your ally Thorok died
 31492 | Spider:2 | Your ally Orik died
 31519 | Spider:2 | Killed Aizul
 31532 | Spider:2 | Gained Bogwald as an ally
 31542 | Spider:2 | Gained Ognian as an ally
 31968 | Spider:2 | Noticed Roxanne
 31980 | Spider:2 | Killed Roxanne
 31982 | Spider:2 | Identified Roxanne's Reference Book on the Mountains (You took it off Roxanne on level 2 of the Spider Nest)
 32127 | Spider:2 | Gained Borgun as an ally
 32504 | Spider:3 | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-1712-g7e4c62d to 0.15-a0-1797-g3451b8d
 32515 | Spider:3 | Gained Brandogh as an ally
 32547 | Spider:3 | Gained Borgun as an ally
 32561 | Spider:3 | Your ally Ognian died
 32563 | Spider:3 | Your ally Borgun died
 32664 | Spider:3 | Identified the ring of Clecrir {rC+ Str+2 Dex+3} (You found it on level 1 of the Spider Nest)
 32697 | Spider:3 | Paralysed by a red wasp for 4 turns
 32822 | Spider:3 | Your ally Borgun died
 32826 | Spider:3 | Your ally Boghold died
 32954 | Spider:3 | Your ally Brandogh died
 32960 | Spider:3 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 116/180 MP: 0/18
 32968 | Spider:3 | Gained Murdo as an ally
 33488 | Spider:4 | Gained Margrim as an ally
 33519 | Spider:4 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
 33589 | Spider:4 | Gained Orkrul as an ally
 33590 | Spider:4 | Gained Bolgrim as an ally
 33890 | Spider:4 | Gained Brunolf as an ally
 33902 | Spider:4 | Noticed Arachne
 33909 | Spider:4 | Killed Arachne
 34247 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest
 34263 | Spider:5 | Gained Boghold as an ally
 34302 | Spider:5 | Your ally Boghold died
 34545 | Spider:5 | Gained Beowulf as an ally
 35072 | Spider:5 | Your ally Spirok died
 35321 | Spider:5 | Your ally Bolgrim died
 35399 | Spider:5 | Gained Orkwin as an ally
 35468 | Spider:5 | Reached skill level 21 in Fighting
 35743 | Spider:5 | Paralysed by a red wasp for 4 turns
 35940 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
 36288 | Lair:1   | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-1797-g3451b8d to 0.15-a0-1820-g7481755
 36290 | Lair:1   | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in yellow scales (AC +2). [potion of beneficial mutation]
 36432 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 36533 | Swamp:1  | Got a shimmering sling
 36695 | Swamp:1  | Noticed Josephine
 36704 | Swamp:1  | Killed Josephine
 37086 | Swamp:2  | Reached XP level 19. HP: 169/189 MP: 18/18
 37136 | Swamp:2  | Your ally Zartorak died
 37139 | Swamp:2  | Your ally Murdo died
 37390 | Swamp:2  | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 38209 | Swamp:3  | Your ally Nordag died
 38257 | Swamp:3  | Got a faintly glowing scale mail
 38259 | Swamp:3  | Identified the cursed +0 scale mail of a labyrinth {rC+} (You found it on level 3 of the Swamp)
 38273 | Swamp:3  | Noticed Nikola
 38284 | Swamp:3  | Killed Nikola
 38951 | Swamp:4  | Got a slimy robe
 39056 | Swamp:4  | Noticed Agnes
 39059 | Swamp:4  | Killed Agnes
 39102 | Swamp:4  | Identified the cursed +7 sling "Iskiggeg" {freeze, rPois rC+} (You found it on level 1 of the Swamp)
 39116 | Swamp:4  | Identified the +2 robe of the Six Moons {rN+} (You found it on level 4 of the Swamp)
 39193 | Swamp:4  | Noticed Norris
 39206 | Swamp:4  | Paralysed by something for 5 turns
 39228 | Swamp:4  | Killed Norris
 39324 | Swamp:4  | Gained Syrus as an ally
 39856 | Swamp:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp
 39973 | Swamp:5  | Your ally Brunolf died
 39975 | Swamp:5  | Gained Koronagh as an ally
 40008 | Swamp:5  | Your ally Margrim died
 40064 | Swamp:5  | Gained Gorg as an ally
 40067 | Swamp:5  | Your ally Olfik died
 40438 | Swamp:5  | Your ally Bogrim died
 40449 | Swamp:5  | Your ally Beowulf died
 40876 | Swamp:5  | Reached skill level 22 in Axes
 40878 | Swamp:5  | Reached XP level 20. HP: 122/198 MP: 19/19
 40883 | Swamp:5  | Your ally Orkwin died
 40909 | Swamp:5  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 41662 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 42480 | Elf:2    | Found Sauvvaq's Antique Armour Shoppe.
 42494 | Elf:2    | Bought a shimmering scale mail for 360 gold pieces
 42495 | Elf:2    | Identified the cursed -5 scale mail of Gehenna {rF+} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Elven Halls)
 43545 | Elf:3    | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls
 43624 | Elf:3    | Gained Bogbrand as an ally
 43792 | Elf:3    | Found Kluj's Antique Weapon Boutique.
 44371 | Elf:3    | Gained Ognian as an ally
 44386 | Elf:3    | Your ally Koronagh died
 44388 | Elf:3    | Noticed a Brimstone Fiend
 44390 | Elf:3    | Killed a Brimstone Fiend
 44393 | Elf:3    | Your ally Gorg died
 44439 | Elf:3    | Your ally Ognian died
 44441 | Elf:3    | Your ally Syrus died
 44710 | Elf:3    | Your ally Bogwald died
 44728 | Elf:3    | Got a smoking amber ring
 44994 | Elf:3    | Got an ichor-stained whip {drain}
 45012 | Elf:3    | Identified the ring "Plog" {AC+3 Str+3 Dex+3} (You took it off a deep elf sorcerer on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 45019 | Elf:3    | Identified a +2 rod of the swarm (13/13) (You took it off a deep elf demonologist on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 45020 | Elf:3    | Identified a +2 rod of the swarm (13/13) (You took it off a deep elf sorcerer on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 45047 | Elf:3    | Identified the Handbook of Experimentation
 45050 | Elf:3    | Got a faintly glowing chain mail
 45074 | Elf:3    | Identified the +2 chain mail of Temperance {rF+ rN+} (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 45111 | Elf:3    | Identified the Grimoire of Cold
 45140 | Elf:3    | Identified the +11 whip of Eternity {drain, +Rage rF+ rC+} (You took it off a deep elf sorcerer on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 45197 | Elf:3    | Got a warped chain mail
 45217 | Elf:3    | Identified the cursed +1 chain mail of Ennui {SInv Stlth+} (You took it off a deep elf high priest on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 45621 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 45869 | Vaults:1 | Found Uwnouhil's Antique Weapon Shop.
 45944 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 23 in Axes
 45944 | Vaults:1 | Your ally Bogbrand died
 46505 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 174/204 MP: 20/20
 46921 | Vaults:2 | Gained Boghold as an ally
 46949 | Vaults:2 | Found Hixafoaw's Weapon Emporium.
 46954 | Vaults:2 | Found Ownex's Food Shoppe.
 46982 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Boris
 46986 | Vaults:2 | Your ally Orkrul died
 46987 | Vaults:2 | Found Dujas' Weapon Boutique.
 47189 | Vaults:2 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 47190 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 47191 | Vaults:2 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 47206 | Vaults:2 | Killed Boris
 47376 | Vaults:2 | Gained Morguth as an ally
 48033 | Vaults:2 | Gained Orbeogh as an ally
 48190 | Vaults:2 | Got a faintly glowing pewter ring
 48336 | Vaults:2 | Identified the cursed ring of Hosy {MR++ Slay-5} (You found it on level 2 of the Vaults)
 48488 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 2 spell: Cure Poison
 48500 | Lair:1   | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-1820-g7481755 to 0.15-a0-1837-gd10c050
 48502 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
 48698 | Vaults:3 | Gained Bladwarg as an ally
 48761 | Vaults:3 | Noticed Frederick
 48767 | Vaults:3 | Gained Boghold as an ally
 48777 | Vaults:3 | Killed Frederick
 48777 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 24 in Axes
 48947 | Vaults:3 | Got a colourful robe
 48985 | Vaults:3 | Your ally Bladwarg died
 49353 | Vaults:3 | Gained Arkwar as an ally
 49411 | Vaults:3 | Gained Bogdar as an ally
 49452 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 25 in Axes
 49452 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 110/213 MP: 20/20
 49505 | Vaults:3 | Your ally Orbeogh died
 49567 | Vaults:3 | Your ally Bogdar died
 49568 | Vaults:3 | Your ally Arkwar died
 49568 | Vaults:3 | Your ally Boghold died
 49633 | Vaults:3 | Your ally Morguth died
 50334 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 26 in Axes
 50388 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting
 50466 | Vaults:4 | Your ally Boghold died
 50492 | Vaults:4 | Identified the cursed -2 robe "Tuxzer" {Str-4 Int+2} (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 50548 | Vaults:4 | Got a bloodstained cutlass
 50549 | Vaults:4 | Identified the cursed -1 cutlass of Herrun {distort, rElec} (You found it on level 4 of the Vaults)
 50775 | Vaults:4 | Gained Boruk as an ally
 50954 | Vaults:4 | Your ally Boruk died
 50956 | Vaults:4 | Gained Orkrul as an ally
 50967 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 51034 | Vaults:4 | Found Smenat's Armour Shoppe.
 51039 | Vaults:4 | Bought the cursed +11 plate armour of the Other Side {rF+} for 1958 gold pieces
 51098 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations
 51953 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
 51956 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
 51963 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste
 52124 | Crypt:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Crypt
 52162 | Crypt:1  | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
 52176 | Crypt:1  | Your ally Orkrul died
 52910 | Crypt:2  | Got a polished short sword
 52985 | Crypt:2  | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations
 53004 | Crypt:2  | Gained Blodwig as an ally
 53095 | Crypt:2  | Reached XP level 23. HP: 220/220 MP: 31/31
 53102 | Crypt:2  | Gained Dorog as an ally
 53403 | Crypt:2  | Your ally Dorog died
 53599 | Crypt:3  | Entered Level 3 of the Crypt
 53657 | Crypt:3  | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 53905 | Crypt:3  | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 53905 | Crypt:3  | Noticed an ancient lich
 53909 | Crypt:3  | Cast into the Abyss (ancient lich)
 53909 | Abyss:1  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 54296 | Abyss:1  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 54317 | Abyss:1  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 54450 | Abyss:1  | Gained Thorok as an ally
 54453 | Abyss:1  | Your ally Thorok died
 55030 | Abyss:3  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 55183 | Abyss:3  | Gained Brandogh as an ally
 55390 | Abyss:4  | Got an abyssal rune of Zot
 55462 | Abyss:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Abyss
 55589 | Abyss:5  | Reached XP level 24. HP: 112/228 MP: 32/32
 55628 | Abyss:5  | Paralysed by accursed screaming for 1 turns
 55629 | Crypt:3  | Escaped the Abyss
 55638 | Crypt:3  | Killed an ancient lich
 55638 | Crypt:3  | Reached skill level 10 in Translocations
 55818 | Crypt:3  | Identified the +5 short sword of the Candle {venom, +Fly rF+ Stlth+} (You found it on level 2 of the Crypt)
 55985 | Crypt:3  | Reached skill level 10 in Charms
 56034 | Crypt:3  | Found a staircase to the Tomb.
 56056 | Crypt:3  | Got a polished quarterstaff
 56059 | Crypt:3  | Identified the +4 quarterstaff of Growth {pain, Dex+1} (You found it on level 3 of the Crypt)
 56117 | Crypt:3  | Paralysed by a vampire knight for 7 turns
 57123 | Hell     | Entered the Vestibule of Hell
 57123 | Hell     | Noticed Geryon
 57143 | Hell     | Killed Geryon
 57143 | Hell     | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
 57203 | Hell     | Found a gateway to the Iron City of Dis.
 57267 | Hell     | Cast into the Abyss (reaper)
 57284 | Abyss:1  | Gained Grimold as an ally
 57293 | Abyss:1  | Your ally Grimold died
 57351 | Abyss:2  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 57402 | Hell     | Escaped the Abyss
 57469 | Hell     | Found a gateway to the freezing wastes of Cocytus.
 57582 | Hell     | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings
 57587 | Hell     | Found a gateway to the decaying netherworld of Tartarus.
 57646 | Hell     | Found a gateway to the ashen valley of Gehenna.
 58457 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths
 59476 | Depths:2 | Reached XP level 25. HP: 211/235 MP: 32/32
 59487 | Depths:2 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
 59558 | Depths:2 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 59724 | Depths:2 | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss.
 59793 | Depths:2 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 60151 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Summonings
 60372 | Depths:2 | Got a twisted halberd
 60402 | Depths:2 | Identified the +5 halberd of Sudden Death {flame, rC+ MR+ Stlth++} (You took it off a vampire knight on level 2 of the Depths)
 60839 | Depths:2 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
 61103 | Depths:2 | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-1837-gd10c050 to 0.15-a0-1842-g1980f02


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total
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Melee: War axe           |   125 |   187 |   384 |   570 |   753 |   433 |       |       |       ||  2452
       Staff             |       |       |       |       |   101 |       |       |       |       ||   101
       Executioner's axe |       |       |       |       |       |   378 |   957 |  1541 |   275 ||  3151
       Unarmed           |       |       |       |       |       |       |   207 |       |     6 ||   213
Throw: Stone             |     7 |     4 |    13 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||    24
       Throwing net      |     1 |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Javelin           |       |       |    17 |    13 |       |       |       |       |       ||    30
       Tomahawk          |       |       |       |    20 |    35 |    17 |    19 |     6 |    11 ||   108
 Cast: Regeneration      |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2
Invok: Convert to Beogh  |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Recall Orcish Fol |       |       |       |     7 |    14 |    38 |    38 |     6 |     3 ||   106
       Give Item to Name |       |       |       |       |       |     4 |     9 |     2 |       ||    15
 Abil: Evoke Flight      |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |    10 |     4 |    12 |     4 |     3 |       |     1 ||    34
  Use: Scroll            |     9 |     6 |    11 |    13 |    11 |    21 |    21 |    12 |     2 ||   106
       Potion            |     1 |     1 |     3 |     4 |     4 |     8 |    10 |     6 |       ||    37
 Stab: Paralysed         |       |       |     6 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     6
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     3 |     6 |    18 |    11 |    20 |     5 ||    63
       Fleeing           |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Sleeping          |       |       |       |       |     3 |     1 |       |       |       ||     4
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Post Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 22:54

Re: CIP: Hill Orc Gladiator of Beogh

Oh wow, between jack saying 16 instead of 26, and then I completely skipped the word "except", your advice givers are making some pretty careless mistakes. Sorry about the anti-Simulacrum rant then, you're good to go :)

You seem reasonably well set up for extended, you have a heal wounds wand, can get haste online fairly soon, etc. But I'd question of Beogh is going to be all that useful there - you might want another god if you go extended?

You can get ego rF helmets now? That isn't an artefact? Nice :)

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Post Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 23:02

Re: CIP: Hill Orc Gladiator of Beogh

I know! I love that helmet. It makes my loins moist.

I'd definitely ditch Beogh for extended. I'm thinking Zin because Hell is a pain in the nuts. Beogh overall is pretty crappy. He's a beast until about the midgame, but after that he turns into a pretty useless turd. If your orcs were stronger/tougher, he'd have more utility, but that's just not the case.
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Post Tuesday, 1st July 2014, 23:06

Re: CIP: Hill Orc Gladiator of Beogh

I haven't played with the new pass equipment to orcs manually stuff, but in .14 I'd say they lasted to the end of a 3 rune game. Obviously it took some management and it's understandable if they died before that, but it was possible. I don't think anyone would really suggest they can last through extended. I was somewhat surprised to hear there were people optimizing warlords with spears for reaching/low attack delay and speed running with beogh, but apparently that was/is a thing: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12908

Zin is an excellent choice, of course.

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