YASD: Ongoing DEWz Executions


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Crypt Cleanser

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Post Saturday, 23rd August 2014, 14:59

Re: YASD: Ongoing DEWz Executions

Eyesburn wrote:Congrats man! You gonna try some other race/class combos ?

Some things never change. :)

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-b1-109-g30c8d52 (webtiles) character file.

Aule the Thaumaturge (Deep Elf Wizard)             Turns: 19943, Time: 03:21:23

HP  71/71        AC 10     Str  8      XL: 12   Next: 14%
MP  34/34        EV 16     Int 25      God: Vehumet [****..]
Gold 578         SH  5     Dex 13      Spells: 10 memorised,  4 levels left
{more...}

Vanquished Creatures
  A frost giant (IceCv)
  Gastronok (Lair:1)
  A death yak (IceCv)
  An ice statue (IceCv)
{more...}

 18631 | IceCv    | Noticed a frost giant
 18636 | IceCv    | Noticed a death yak
 18853 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 6 in Fighting
 18903 | IceCv    | Killed a death yak
 18903 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 4 in Armour
 18903 | IceCv    | Reached XP level 12. HP: 70/70 MP: 10/34
 19391 | IceCv    | Killed a frost giant

But yes, I am, actually. OpWz is on my list. But first I want to do a full run to all levels with this one. :)

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Post Sunday, 24th August 2014, 06:10

Re: YASD: Ongoing DEWz Executions

Will you at least try Sif Muna to change something?

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Post Sunday, 24th August 2014, 07:23

Re: YASD: Ongoing DEWz Executions

Species that are definitely worth trying as a blaster mage: gargoyle, tengu, draconian. Octopode is a challenge, I don't recommend it.

Also, try conjurer. You lose versatility (compared to Wz), but gain more firepower once you get the Battlesphere online (which is ASAP).

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Post Sunday, 24th August 2014, 16:30

Re: YASD: Ongoing DEWz Executions

Meriados wrote:Will you at least try Sif Muna to change something?

That has already been done well over 100 times, my friend. I began the quest with Sif as my guide, "religiously." Vehumet offered far better benefits for this character and my style of play. I can quantify them for you.

  1. no invocations
  2. extended spell ranges
  3. freely given spells of desired quality, regardless of books found
  4. miscast reduction on desired spells
  5. return of spell power

As to number 1: no invocations means more XP to spend elsewhere.

As to number 2: extended range, since this is plane geometry: is an exponential boon. The simplest case also explains my affection for polearms. Take a weapon, range=1, and it can affect all squares adjacent or at its corners. Extend that weapon's range by 1 and it can hit three times as many targets, as depicted in the graphic:

  Code:
. . . . . . .           . . . . . . .
. . . . . . .           . X X X X X .
. . X X X . .           . X X X X X .
. . X @ X . .    vs.    . X X @ X X .
. . X X X . .           . X X X X X .
. . . . . . .           . X X X X X .
. . . . . . .           . . . . . . .

 = 8 targets            = 24 targets
(No, console players, this is not a nightmare attack of orb guardians.)

Granted, this multiple over the alternative shrinks as the initial range increases, but it's still quite hefty, especially on later levels (like Zigs), where you want to affect as many at your LOS as possible.

As to number 3: this needs no explanation. In the early game, getting useful spells can determine whether or not you can even safely continue the game. Can't tell you how many times I finished Orc and Lair finding no spell books to make use of, and was forced to continue in to deeper, more dangerous environs greatly underpowered by spells, Sif's promises notwitstanding. Vehumet is guaranteed to give you the spells you need, if you're playing a character focused on destructive spells.

As to number 4: I don't think it would have even been possible to create a wizard that could spam fire storm, glaciate, (and shatter, though I used it rarely after trying it) without the 33% reduction in failure rate. That's one corpulently fat bonus for this particular character.

Finally, as to number 5: the return of spell power for killing. Some who have watched me have commented upon my willingness to take on large mobs as "risky." But in large part this is done to maximize my return on investment in Vehumet. The more enemies I kill at once, the greater will be the returned MP, which functions as a limited form of channeling, but which costs no XP in evocations. It is not foolproof and limited, and in many cases a balance cannot be achieved, but as the game progresses into the more difficult depths, and the wider area spells come online, this return on investment pays off handsomely.

Imagine running your zigs with the extended range, having all the XP to spare for not raising invocations, and spamming your tornado and glaciate on mobs, completely replenishing your MP every time you take out a crowd, repeat and rinse.

I think it's time you switch to Vehumet. :)

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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 13:37

Re: YASD: Ongoing DEWz Executions

Aule wrote:
Meriados wrote:Will you at least try Sif Muna to change something?

That has already been done well over 100 times, my friend. I began the quest with Sif as my guide, "religiously." Vehumet offered far better benefits for this character and my style of play. I can quantify them for you.

  1. no invocations
  2. extended spell ranges
  3. freely given spells of desired quality, regardless of books found
  4. miscast reduction on desired spells
  5. return of spell power

As to number 1: no invocations means more XP to spend elsewhere.

As to number 2: extended range, since this is plane geometry: is an exponential boon. The simplest case also explains my affection for polearms. Take a weapon, range=1, and it can affect all squares adjacent or at its corners. Extend that weapon's range by 1 and it can hit three times as many targets, as depicted in the graphic:

  Code:
. . . . . . .           . . . . . . .
. . . . . . .           . X X X X X .
. . X X X . .           . X X X X X .
. . X @ X . .    vs.    . X X @ X X .
. . X X X . .           . X X X X X .
. . . . . . .           . X X X X X .
. . . . . . .           . . . . . . .

 = 8 targets            = 24 targets
(No, console players, this is not a nightmare attack of orb guardians.)

Granted, this multiple over the alternative shrinks as the initial range increases, but it's still quite hefty, especially on later levels (like Zigs), where you want to affect as many at your LOS as possible.

As to number 3: this needs no explanation. In the early game, getting useful spells can determine whether or not you can even safely continue the game. Can't tell you how many times I finished Orc and Lair finding no spell books to make use of, and was forced to continue in to deeper, more dangerous environs greatly underpowered by spells, Sif's promises notwitstanding. Vehumet is guaranteed to give you the spells you need, if you're playing a character focused on destructive spells.

As to number 4: I don't think it would have even been possible to create a wizard that could spam fire storm, glaciate, (and shatter, though I used it rarely after trying it) without the 33% reduction in failure rate. That's one corpulently fat bonus for this particular character.

Finally, as to number 5: the return of spell power for killing. Some who have watched me have commented upon my willingness to take on large mobs as "risky." But in large part this is done to maximize my return on investment in Vehumet. The more enemies I kill at once, the greater will be the returned MP, which functions as a limited form of channeling, but which costs no XP in evocations. It is not foolproof and limited, and in many cases a balance cannot be achieved, but as the game progresses into the more difficult depths, and the wider area spells come online, this return on investment pays off handsomely.

Imagine running your zigs with the extended range, having all the XP to spare for not raising invocations, and spamming your tornado and glaciate on mobs, completely replenishing your MP every time you take out a crowd, repeat and rinse.

I think it's time you switch to Vehumet. :)


I promise I will :D I was too used to Sif Muna channeling, because i NEVER EVER EVER EVER trained anything that wasn't spells at first. After losing like trillion times i learned that the game was much easier learning a bit of melee and a lot of dodging even on spellcasters, but was too much used to channeling and to large number of books.

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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 19:56

Re: YASD: Ongoing DEWz Executions

Aule wrote:As to number 2: extended range, since this is plane geometry: is an exponential boon.

Quadratic boon. An exponential boon would keep tripling every time you added 1. </petpeeve>

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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 20:03

Re: YASD: Ongoing DEWz Executions

Is it really a boon for most spells?
Fireball still affects 9 tiles no matter Vehumet or not it.
Bolt of Fire still affects a single line (8 tiles with Vehumet, 7 without).

Crypt Cleanser

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Post Monday, 25th August 2014, 22:13

Re: YASD: Ongoing DEWz Executions

Sandman25 wrote:Is it really a boon for most spells?

Think of all those times you were trying to target something and it was just out of reach, darnit. Yeah, it's a boon, especially early-mid-game when you need every advantage to survive. And it's a quadratic boon! :) (That sounds like a great randart name.)

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Post Sunday, 31st August 2014, 03:45

Coda

Executions End

My satiation is now complete. I have feasted on the power to roam dangerous places, and to take on the worst the game has to offer with near-impunity. I have become myself a wizard of this deep elf wizard, bringing another character with lesser beginnings not only to a win, but also to every location in the game, gathering all 15 runes available there. I defeated all challenges, and became not only a master of the elements, but also a master of escape from all harrowing circumstances, and there were many.

I am by no means an expert. It took me a very long time to do (as someone so rudely pointed out as I was playing it), but it was all very thrilling and frightening the first time, as it should be. The parts that were not new (the beginning) were also much harder, this time, too. It is not a streak, even so close on the heels of my first win, but it feels like a streak to me, and that's all that really matters.

As to the dead wizard in between the two wins, the staffer who committed the hidden execution has been fired, and the governor has now officially abolished the death penalty for all deep elf wizards, to remain in perpetuity.

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15.0-11-g6f4f891 (webtiles) character file.

6984619 Aule the Archmage (level 27, 199/199 HPs)
             Began as a Deep Elf Wizard on Aug 22, 2014.
             Was the Champion of Vehumet.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 15 runes on Aug 31, 2014!
             
             The game lasted 1day 23:48:24 (275883 turns).

Aule the Archmage (Deep Elf Wizard)            Turns: 275883, Time: 1, 23:48:25

HP 199/199       AC 22     Str  8      XL: 27
MP  50/50        EV 36     Int 46      God: Vehumet [******]
Gold 14911       SH  8     Dex 16      Spells: 14 memorised,  0 levels left

rFire  + + +     SeeInvis +     a - +9 trident of Massacring {vamp, rPois rC++ MR+ SInv Stlth-}
rCold  + + +     Clarity  +     e - +3 robe of Folly {Archmagi, MR-- Int+5 Curse}
rNeg   + + +     rCorr    .     H - +2 buckler of Jigsaw {rC++ rN+ Stlth++}
rPois  +         rRot     .     F - +2 hat of the Alchemist {rElec rF+ rC+ MR+}
rElec  +         Spirit   .     n - +3 cloak of Flash {+Fly EV+4}
SustAb .         Warding  .     l - +2 pair of gloves {Dex+3}
rMut   .         Stasis   .     y - +2 pair of boots of Action {rF+ rN+}
Gourm  .                        M - amulet of the Four Winds {Clar rN+ MR+++}
MR     +++++                    c - ring of the Mage {Wiz MR++ Int+3}
                                S - ring "Yzaonludi" {rF+ Str+2 Int+3 Slay+5}

@: deflect missiles, almost entirely resistant to hostile enchantments, stealthy
A: no striking features
a: Renounce Religion, Evoke Flight
0: Orb of Zot
}: 15/15 runes: serpentine, barnacled, slimy, silver, golden, iron, obsidian,
icy, bone, abyssal, demonic, glowing, magical, fiery, dark


You escaped.
You worshipped Vehumet.
Vehumet was exalted by your worship.
You were completely stuffed.

You visited 18 branches of the dungeon, and saw 97 of its levels.
You visited Pandemonium 8 times, and saw 28 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 3 times.
You visited 4 Ziggurats, and saw 50 of their levels (deepest: 14).
You also visited: Labyrinth, Trove, Ossuary and Ice Cave.

You collected 21079 gold pieces.
You spent 6168 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - the +9 trident of Massacring (weapon) {vamp, rPois rC++ MR+ SInv Stlth-}
   (You found it in Pandemonium)   
   
   It inflicts no extra harm, but heals its wielder somewhat when it strikes a
   living foe.
   
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It makes you less stealthy.
 x - the +4 Staff of Dispater
   (You took it off Dispater on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)
 G - the +7 Sceptre of Asmodeus
   (You took it off Asmodeus on level 7 of Gehenna)
 K - the +6 Sword of Cerebov {flame}
   (You took it off Cerebov in Pandemonium)   
   
   It emits flame when wielded, causing extra injury to most foes and up to
   double damage against particularly susceptible opponents. Big, fiery blades
   are also staple armaments of hydra-hunters.
 N - a +2 sacred scourge of holy wrath
   (You took it off an angel in Pandemonium)
Armour
 e - the +3 robe of Folly (worn) {Archmagi, MR-- Int+5 Curse}
   (You found it on level 4 of a ziggurat)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+5).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It may recurse itself when equipped.
 l - a +2 pair of gloves of dexterity (worn)
   (You found it in a labyrinth)
 n - the +3 cloak of Flash (worn) {+Fly EV+4}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Crypt)   
   
   It affects your evasion (+4).
   It lets you fly.
 y - the +2 pair of boots of Action (worn) {rF+ rN+}
   (You found it on level 10 of a ziggurat)   
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from negative energy.
 F - the +2 hat of the Alchemist (worn) {rElec rF+ rC+ MR+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Vaults)   
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 H - the +2 buckler of Jigsaw (worn) {rC++ rN+ Stlth++}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It makes you much more stealthy.
 P - the +9 armour of the Dragon King {rPois rF+ rC+ MR+}
   (You took it off a deep elf master archer on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 T - the +0 faerie dragon armour {Slay+4}
   (You took it off the Enchantress on level 1 of the Depths)   
   
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+4).
Magical devices
 f - a wand of digging (24)
 j - a wand of disintegration (24)
 s - a wand of hasting (9)
 u - a wand of teleportation (9)
 X - a wand of heal wounds (9)
Comestibles
 g - 11 beef jerkies
 i - 14 royal jellies
 o - 11 bread rations
 J - 29 fruits
Scrolls
 d - 3 scrolls of enchant armour
 k - 6 scrolls of teleportation
 m - 15 scrolls of fog
 p - 21 scrolls of remove curse
 r - 2 scrolls of summoning
 t - 32 scrolls of identify
 A - 2 scrolls of recharging
 D - a scroll of amnesia
 O - 14 scrolls of blinking
 Q - a scroll of magic mapping
Jewellery
 c - the ring of the Mage (right hand) {Wiz MR++ Int+3}
   (You found it on level 6 of a ziggurat)   
   
   [ring of wizardry]
   
   It improves your spell success rate.
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 h - an uncursed amulet of the gourmand
   (You found it on level 2 of the Realm of Zot)
 w - the ring of Best {Fire Str+2}
   (You found it on level 7 of Gehenna)   
   
   [ring of fire]
   
   It enhances your fire magic, and weakens your ice magic.
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It protects you from fire.
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
 M - the amulet of the Four Winds (around neck) {Clar rN+ MR+++}
   (You found it on level 3 of a ziggurat)   
   
   [amulet of clarity]
   
   It provides mental clarity.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 S - the ring "Yzaonludi" (left hand) {rF+ Str+2 Int+3 Slay+5}
   (You found it on level 7 of a ziggurat)   
   
   [ring of intelligence]
   
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+5).
   It protects you from fire.
 U - the ring of Schitelow {rC+ rN+ Str+2 Slay+5}
   (You found it on level 8 of a ziggurat)   
   
   [ring of positive energy]
   
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+5).
   It protects you from cold.
   It protects you from negative energy.
 Y - the ring of Night {rElec rPois rF+ MR+}
   (You found it on level 13 of a ziggurat)   
   
   [ring of poison resistance]
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 Z - the ring of Vitality {HP+15 Regen}
   (You found it on level 3 of a ziggurat)   
   
   [ring of regeneration]
   
   It affects your health (+15).
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
Potions
 q - a potion of invisibility
 z - 6 potions of porridge
 B - 9 potions of restore abilities
 C - 6 potions of curing
 E - 3 potions of haste
 I - 3 potions of cancellation
 V - 7 potions of cure mutation
Miscellaneous
 b - an ornate deck of wonders {the Shaft}
 v - a crystal ball of energy
 L - a legendary deck of defence {the Shaft, drawn: 1}
 R - a legendary deck of changes {Metamorphosis}
 W - a legendary deck of escape {Velocity}


   Skills:
 O Level 27 Fighting
 - Level 3.7 Maces & Flails
 - Level 14.0 Polearms
 - Level 24.0 Armour
 O Level 27 Dodging
 O Level 27 Stealth
 - Level 6.0 Shields
 O Level 27 Spellcasting
 O Level 27 Conjurations
 - Level 10.0 Charms
   Level 23.9 Summonings
 - Level 12.1 Translocations
 - Level 22.0 Fire Magic
 - Level 24.0 Ice Magic
 + Level 22.8 Air Magic
 - Level 21.0 Earth Magic
   Level 3.0 Poison Magic
 O Level 27 Evocations


You couldn't memorise any spells.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Fire Storm            Conj/Fire      #########.   1%          9    None
b - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          0%          2    None
c - Controlled Blink      Tloc           N/A          1%          7    None
d - Glaciate              Conj/Ice       #########.   1%          9    None
e - Control Teleport      Chrm/Tloc      ########..   1%          4    None
f - Freezing Cloud        Conj/Ice/Air   #########.   0%          6    None
g - Fireball              Conj/Fire      #########.   0%          5    None
l - Lee's Rapid Deconstr  Erth           #########.   0%          5    None
m - Deflect Missiles      Chrm/Air       ########..   1%          6    None
p - Apportation           Tloc           ########..   0%          1    None
q - Haste                 Chrm           ########     1%          6    None
r - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ########..   1%          3    None
s - Lehudib's Crystal Sp  Conj/Erth      #########.   1%          8    None
t - Tornado               Air            #########.   1%          9    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:5             Orc (4/4) D:11
    Elf (3/3) Orc:3          Lair (8/8) D:9          Shoals (5/5) Lair:3
  Snake (5/5) Lair:4        Slime (6/6) Lair:8       Vaults (5/5) D:14
  Crypt (3/3) Vaults:3       Tomb (3/3) Crypt:3      Depths (5/5) D:15
   Hell (1/1)                 Dis (7/7) Hell            Geh (7/7) Hell
    Coc (7/7) Hell            Tar (7/7) Hell            Zot (5/5) Depths:5

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:7 ?   D:9 *   D:14 :   Orc:2 [   Orc:4 (}}:   Elf:3 !   Vaults:2 [??(
Depths:1 *

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Abyss: Depths:2 Depths:4
Pandemonium: Depths:3

Annotations:
Slime:6 Royal Jelly

Message History

Vehumet accepts your kill.
You feel your power returning.
You puncture the jackal! You feel better.
You kill the jackal!
Vehumet accepts your kill.
You feel your power returning.
Attack whom?
Press: ? - help, Dir - move target cursor, f - jackal
Aim: a jackal
You reach to attack! You hit the jackal.
The jackal is moderately wounded.
You closely miss the jackal.
The jackal is moderately wounded.
The jackal completely misses you.
You puncture the jackal!
You kill the jackal!
Vehumet accepts your kill.
A goblin comes into view.
You puncture the goblin!
You kill the goblin!
Vehumet accepts your kill.
You see here a goblin corpse.
No target in view!
A sixfirhy comes into view.
There is an open door here.
The sixfirhy barely misses you. The sixfirhy completely misses you.
The sixfirhy misses you. You block the sixfirhy's attack.
There is a fountain of clear blue water here.
You puncture the sixfirhy!
The sixfirhy is moderately wounded.
You barely miss the sixfirhy.
The sixfirhy is moderately wounded.
You impale the sixfirhy!!
The sixfirhy is almost dead.
You closely miss the sixfirhy.
The sixfirhy is almost dead.
You block the sixfirhy's attack. The sixfirhy misses you.
You puncture the sixfirhy!
You kill the sixfirhy!
Vehumet accepts your kill.
No target in view!
No target in view!
There is an open door here.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here.
You close the door.
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
That potion was really gluggy!
You have escaped!

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There were no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Antaeus (Coc:7)
  Asmodeus (Geh:7)
  Cerebov (Pan)
  Ereshkigal (Tar:7)
  Ignacio (Pan)
  Gloorx Vloq (Pan)
  Mnoleg (Pan)
  Lom Lobon (Pan)
  Dispater (Dis:7)
  8 orbs of fire
  Khufu (Crypt:3)
  15 ancient liches
  the Serpent of Hell (Coc:7)
  23 pandemonium lords
  27 greater mummies
  A seraph (Pan)
  6 curse toes
  Margery (Vaults:3)
  Norris (D:14)
  Geryon (Hell)
  11 Killer Klowns
  19 golden dragons
  2 profane servitors
  Jory (Vaults:2)
  8 electric golems
  2 pearl dragons (Pan)
  The ghost of Manteiga the Destroyer, a mighty DrVM of Lugonu (Elf:3)
  11 bone dragons
  the Enchantress (Depths:1)
  33 Brimstone Fiends
  16 Hell Sentinels
  A hellephant (Abyss:1)
  25 liches
  Asterion (Snake:3)
  30 tentacled monstrosities
  26 Orb Guardians
  37 Ice Fiends
  Vashnia (Snake:2)
  4 quicksilver dragons
  23 acid blobs
  2 quicksilver dragons (shapeshifter)
  2 deep elf blademasters
  30 Shadow Fiends
  34 storm dragons
  16 titans
  4 deep elf master archers
  The ghost of EugeneJudo the Severer, a mighty MiBe of Trog (Shoals:5)
  A kraken (Shoals:5)
  16 sphinxes
  42 Executioners
  12 blood saints
  A sphinx (shapeshifter) (Zig:11)
  Rupert (D:14)
  6 shadow dragons
  Agnes (Depths:1)
  13 tengu reavers
  Frances (Elf:1)
  An azure jelly (shapeshifter) (Zig:11)
  An eldritch tentacle (Tar:7)
  Kirke (D:15)
  24 daevas
  50 tentacled starspawn
  19 ancient champions
  3 azure jellies
  10 draconian monks
  Ilsuiw (Shoals:5)
  6 revenants
  25 fire giants
  13 greater nagas
  Donald (Orc:3)
  Wiglaf (Vaults:5)
  An orc warlord (Pan)
  3 draconian scorchers
  14 vault wardens
  5 ghost moths
  55 balrugs
  29 frost giants
  16 iron dragons
  5 draconian knights
  8 emperor scorpions
  51 cacodemons
  6 draconian zealots
  15 deep elf sorcerers
  Gastronok (Lair:1)
  7 ghouls
  4 war gargoyles
  Jorgrun (Vaults:3)
  5 spriggan defenders
  11 draconian annihilators
  67 reapers
  17 warmongers
  49 angels (Pan)
  12 deep elf demonologists
  The ghost of Feirund the Impaler, a powerful MfGl of Zin (Lair:6)
  39 stone giants
  9 corrupters
  28 very ugly things
  5 grey draconians
  3 draconian shifters
  9 chaos champions
  10 green draconians
  22 ophanim (Pan)
  14 lorocyprocas
  6 mottled draconians
  17 salamander firebrands
  5 pale draconians
  9 white draconians
  59 apis (Pan)
  13 dire elephants
  6 red draconians
  18 deep elf annihilators
  11 yellow draconians
  17 black suns
  6 black draconians
  20 ettins
  10 eidola
  3 unborn
  49 green deaths
  2 pearl dragon zombies (Crypt:1)
  11 deep elf death magi
  2 vampire knights
  4 merfolk javelineers
  36 mummy priests
  27 vault guards
  13 merfolk impalers
  A death ooze (Slime:6)
  73 blizzard demons
  28 yaktaur captains
  21 great orbs of eyes
  Josephine (D:11)
  8 deep elf high priests
  22 ironheart preservers
  8 minotaurs
  27 fire dragons
  29 jiangshi
  3 quicksilver dragon zombies
  Fannar (Lair:6)
  2 ravenous item mimics
  11 hydras
  29 ice dragons
  5 quicksilver dragon skeletons
  17 spriggan air magi
  Harold (Lair:6)
  17 death cobs
  2 ghost crabs (shapeshifter)
  A great orb of eyes (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  7 anacondas
  12 naga warriors
  46 monstrous demonspawn (Pan)
  20 rakshasas
  2 alligators (Zig:7)
  16 ogre magi
  5 ghost crabs
  7 sirens
  2 alligator snapping turtles
  12 centaur warriors
  3 merfolk aquamancers
  18 deep troll earth magi
  3 satyrs
  16 naga sharpshooters
  11 vampire magi
  3 death knights
  17 deep troll shamans
  21 death yaks
  41 hell hogs
  14 shock serpents
  4 tengu warriors
  2 dancing weapons
  Urug (D:14)
  5 spriggan berserkers
  12 titan zombies
  38 thrashing horrors
  6 storm dragon zombies
  2 iron golems
  42 soul eaters
  3 orc high priests
  Nergalle (D:13)
  80 sun demons
  4 fire crabs
  7 iron trolls
  62 hell knights
  30 wretched stars
  27 shadow wraiths
  191 skeletal warriors
  3 catoblepae
  5 titan skeletons
  An orb spider (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  23 cherubim (Pan)
  4 storm dragon skeletons
  32 deep elf knights
  9 unseen horrors
  10 golden dragon zombies
  12 spatial maelstroms
  66 ice devils
  202 large abominations
  15 sea snakes
  4 ball lightnings (Pan)
  8 salamander mystics
  26 flayed ghosts
  A death drake (Tar:7)
  45 infernal demonspawn (Pan)
  2 ghost moth zombies
  10 hill giants
  5 orb spiders
  28 shadow demons
  5 ice statues
  2 spriggan druids
  3 swamp dragons (Zig:7)
  11 anaconda zombies
  40 torturous demonspawn (Pan)
  17 deep elf summoners
  5 shadow dragon zombies
  2 sphinx zombies (Zig:14)
  18 putrid demonspawn (Pan)
  A golden dragon skeleton (Coc:3)
  3 tengu zombies
  6 naga ritualists
  19 giant orange brains
  36 deep trolls
  19 ironbrand convokers
  5 anaconda skeletons
  57 gelid demonspawn (Pan)
  32 orc knights
  2 lindwurms (shapeshifter)
  3 spectral holy swine (Crypt:1)
  9 mana vipers
  31 deep elf conjurers
  4 wolf spiders
  9 shadow dragon skeletons
  6 orc sorcerers
  3 fire giant zombies
  29 harpies
  51 hellions
  11 wizards
  A faun (shapeshifter) (Zig:11)
  A mana viper (shapeshifter) (Zig:13)
  2 stone giant zombies
  25 necromancers
  4 wolf spider zombies
  4 iron dragon zombies
  2 salamanders (shapeshifter)
  4 red wasps
  A cyclops (shapeshifter) (Abyss:1)
  36 ugly things
  A spectral ettin (Crypt:1)
  10 shining eyes
  11 frost giant zombies
  16 cyclopes
  12 manticores
  A spectral wolf spider (Crypt:1)
  A wolf spider (shapeshifter) (Depths:2)
  20 vault sentinels
  A tengu skeleton (Zig:14)
  A red wasp (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  35 salamanders
  17 elephants
  44 moths of wrath
  A water nymph (shapeshifter) (Abyss:3)
  11 griffons
  A mermaid (shapeshifter) (Depths:5)
  5 fire giant skeletons
  107 sixfirhies
  26 phantasmal warriors
  6 oklob plants (Zig:13)
  4 iron dragon skeletons
  10 stone giant skeletons
  8 fauns
  24 worldbinders
  22 guardian serpents
  An elephant (shapeshifter) (Depths:3)
  170 smoke demons
  8 frost giant skeletons
  45 black mambas
  7 water nymphs
  3 apis skeletons (Crypt:1)
  2 centaur zombies
  A shock serpent zombie (Tomb:2)
  17 apocalypse crabs
  3 guardian serpents (shapeshifter)
  Joseph (D:7)
  2 black mambas (shapeshifter)
  2 dire elephant zombies
  11 mermaids
  A torpor snail (shapeshifter) (Zig:4)
  A titan simulacrum (Abyss:3)
  5 molten gargoyles
  117 orange demons
  A queen ant (shapeshifter) (Depths:3)
  3 elf zombies
  3 torpor snails
  10 eyes of devastation
  39 iron devils
  A spiny frog (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  An orange crystal statue (Zig:14)
  4 centaur skeletons
  A mottled draconian zombie (Zot:2)
  13 naga magi
  47 tormentors
  A grey draconian zombie (Geh:1)
  A komodo dragon (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  13 spiny frogs
  3 elf skeletons (Zig:14)
  3 kobold demonologists
  5 dire elephant skeletons
  4 emperor scorpion zombies
  2 gargoyles
  51 yaktaurs
  3 shock serpent skeletons
  16 demonic crawlers
  3 fire drakes
  A storm dragon simulacrum (Tomb:1)
  34 efreet
  129 guardian mummies
  An elf (shapeshifter) (Depths:4)
  94 red devils
  50 blue devils
  156 hellwings
  33 ancient zymes
  8 komodo dragons
  A queen bee (shapeshifter) (Abyss:5)
  A giant leech (Zig:1)
  2 wind drakes (shapeshifter)
  7 harpy zombies
  13 hydra zombies
  41 merfolk
  17 deep elf priests
  A jumping spider (Zig:5)
  A grey draconian skeleton (Crypt:1)
  214 fire vortices
  55 freezing wraiths
  5 silent spectres
  3 tengu conjurers
  26 two-headed ogres
  18 polar bears
  A catoblepas zombie (Geh:5)
  A sphinx simulacrum (Zig:12)
  2 queen bees
  98 raiju
  7 boulder beetles
  8 trolls
  A jumping spider (shapeshifter) (Depths:2)
  142 slime creatures
  2 slime creatures (shapeshifter)
  Prince Ribbit (D:9)
  5 wind drakes
  A polar bear (shapeshifter) (Depths:4)
  3 bog bodies
  A wandering mushroom (Abyss:3)
  A wolf spider simulacrum (Crypt:1)
  An iron dragon simulacrum (Tomb:3)
  15 snapping turtles
  8 air elementals
  2 alligator zombies (Coc:3)
  A trapdoor spider zombie (D:8)
  A raven (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  8 ravens
  3 ettin zombies
  3 catoblepas skeletons
  3 hydra skeletons
  5 fire dragon zombies
  A fire giant simulacrum (Abyss:1)
  48 deep elf magi
  5 redbacks
  3 harpy skeletons
  38 blink frogs
  234 flying skulls
  7 basilisks
  2 alligator skeletons
  5 spriggan skeletons
  An elf simulacrum (Zig:14)
  48 shadows
  A dire elephant simulacrum (Tomb:3)
  A raiju (shapeshifter) (Zig:7)
  A black mamba zombie (Geh:5)
  7 ice dragon skeletons
  A tarantella (Zig:3)
  2 ice dragon zombies
  2 spriggans (Depths:1)
  7 ettin skeletons
  6 fire dragon skeletons
  9 human skeletons
  36 vampires
  A redback (shapeshifter) (Zig:9)
  A human (shapeshifter) (Abyss:3)
  2 trapdoor spiders
  124 ynoxinuls
  9 fire bats
  22 fire elementals
  2 trapdoor spiders (shapeshifter)
  19 golden eyes
  2 hill giant zombies
  63 yaks
  11 hell beasts
  48 water elementals
  3 wyverns
  29 wraiths
  A yak (shapeshifter) (Abyss:1)
  5 hogs (D:15)
  23 humans
  An emperor scorpion simulacrum (Tomb:1)
  A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  62 deep elf fighters
  26 spatial vortices
  27 vampire mosquitoes
  18 hippogriffs
  A steam dragon (D:12)
  3 hill giant skeletons
  A warg (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  11 hungry ghosts
  87 neqoxecs
  10 wargs
  A wolf (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  29 wolves
  41 nagas
  3 human zombies
  62 water moccasins
  A soldier ant (shapeshifter) (Depths:2)
  5 mottled dragons
  40 chaos spawn
  A water moccasin (shapeshifter) (Depths:5)
  A merfolk skeleton (Crypt:1)
  51 hell hounds
  11 porcupines
  3 hydra simulacra
  8 spiny frog zombies
  A yellow wasp (shapeshifter) (Abyss:3)
  63 orc warriors
  3 deep troll skeletons
  79 small abominations
  5 manticore zombies
  3 spiders
  A swamp drake (Zig:6)
  4 black bears
  2 catoblepas simulacra
  A ghost crab zombie (Crypt:1)
  A swamp dragon zombie (Geh:5)
  16 ice beasts
  5 sky beasts
  A yellow wasp (D:7)
  The ghost of Stoog the Ruffian, an average MiMo of Makhleb (D:4)
  A blink frog zombie (Abyss:5)
  5 spiny frog skeletons
  63 ogres
  3 snapping turtle zombies
  A boggart (Vaults:2)
  An ettin simulacrum (Vaults:3)
  3 alligator simulacra (Hell)
  25 centaurs
  26 necrophages
  8 phantoms
  A snapping turtle skeleton (Geh:5)
  16 crocodiles
  2 boring beetles
  A crocodile (shapeshifter) (Depths:5)
  A boring beetle (shapeshifter) (Abyss:1)
  A manticore skeleton (Geh:4)
  2 swamp dragon skeletons
  A yaktaur zombie (Crypt:2)
  7 big kobolds
  A lost soul (Crypt:2)
  A salamander zombie (Crypt:1)
  Blork the orc (D:7)
  A spiny frog simulacrum (Coc:3)
  23 giant frogs
  8 brain worms
  2 glowing shapeshifter simulacra
  A cyclops zombie (D:11)
  9 insubstantial wisps
  A salamander skeleton (Geh:5)
  A cyclops skeleton (D:11)
  7 scorpions
  A boulder beetle zombie (D:15)
  A raiju zombie (Crypt:1)
  A hippogriff zombie (Crypt:2)
  3 spriggan zombies
  A human simulacrum (Vaults:2)
  19 eyes of draining
  40 killer bees
  2 goliath beetles
  82 wights
  2 troll skeletons
  A hippogriff skeleton (D:10)
  8 electric eels
  31 iron imps
  87 starcursed masses
  A yellow wasp zombie (Crypt:2)
  46 jellies
  28 quasits
  27 crimson imps
  A black bear zombie (D:6)
  25 hounds
  3 giant frog zombies
  38 orc priests
  A lava snake (Zot:3)
  An orange rat (shapeshifter) (Depths:5)
  14 iguanas
  A gnoll shaman (D:9)
  An iguana (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  A giant frog skeleton (D:12)
  39 orc wizards
  15 orange rats
  4 lightning spires
  11 worker ants
  A mottled dragon zombie (D:11)
  Ijyb (D:6)
  A big kobold zombie (Ossuary)
  2 naga zombies
  3 ogre skeletons
  19 sheep
  2 hound zombies
  A hound skeleton (D:6)
  2 worker ant zombies
  60 mummies
  11 gnolls
  32 green rats
  37 adders
  2 steam dragon skeletons
  24 shadow imps
  4 giant mites
  An inept feature mimic (D:5)
  48 white imps
  6 worms
  89 ufetubi
  A sheep zombie (Crypt:1)
  5 orc skeletons
  An adder skeleton (D:8)
  4 giant eyeballs
  8 giant geckos
  3 oozes (Lair:8)
  245 orcs
  3 ball pythons
  35 bats
  A bat skeleton (D:8)
  12 giant cockroaches
  A gnoll zombie (Ossuary)
  30 goblins
  25 hobgoblins
  15 jackals
  29 kobolds
  A ball python zombie (Crypt:1)
  A giant gecko skeleton (D:5)
  4 giant newts
  2 giant spores
  A gnoll skeleton (Crypt:1)
  A goblin skeleton (D:4)
  A goblin zombie (Ossuary)
  A hobgoblin zombie (D:5)
  2 kobold skeletons
  2 kobold zombies
  8 lurking horrors
  12 quokkas
  23 rats
  2 rat skeletons
  2 rat zombies (D:7)
  A spectral orc (D:8)
  7 ballistomycetes
  78 blocks of ice
  2 bushes
  2 butterflies
  9 fungi
  8 grand avatars (Pan)
  12 plants
  35 starspawn tentacles
  4 starspawn tentacle segments
  2 tentacles (Shoals:5)
9205 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  3 ancient liches
  3 greater mummies
  A lich (Vaults:5)
  An Ice Fiend (Coc:7)
  A tentacled monstrosity (Pan)
  A titan (Vaults:4)
  A deep elf master archer (Zig:8)
  2 Shadow Fiends
  An Executioner (Pan)
  A storm dragon (Zot:5)
  A tentacled starspawn (Abyss:5)
  2 ancient champions
  A draconian scorcher (Zig:5)
  4 frost giants
  A cacodemon (Dis:7)
  An angel (Pan)
  A reaper (Hell)
  2 ghouls (Zig:11)
  A deep elf demonologist (Elf:3)
  The ghost of mrpyro the Carver, a mighty VSBe of Trog (Elf:3)
  2 ophanim (Pan)
  2 apis (Pan)
  2 mottled draconians
  An eidolon (Zig:11)
  A blizzard demon (Pan)
  4 green deaths (Pan)
  A merfolk impaler (Shoals:5)
  3 mummy priests
  A fire dragon (Zig:3)
  An ice dragon (Zot:2)
  2 monstrous demonspawn (Pan)
  A merfolk aquamancer (Shoals:5)
  A shambling mangrove (Zig:3)
  An alligator snapping turtle (Shoals:2)
  A death yak (Depths:5)
  2 vampire magi (Zig:11)
  A deep troll shaman (Depths:2)
  A hell hog (Hell)
  2 naga sharpshooters
  2 soul eaters
  A sun demon (Pan)
  A storm dragon zombie (Zig:14)
  A shock serpent (Snake:4)
  3 ice devils
  A flayed ghost (Zig:11)
  2 shadow wraiths
  A cherub (Pan)
  4 skeletal warriors
  2 large abominations (Abyss:1)
  A shadow demon (Abyss:5)
  2 shadow dragon skeletons
  A phantasmal warrior (Zig:11)
  A shining eye (Pan)
  3 sixfirhies
  An apis skeleton (Crypt:1)
  4 orange demons
  An efreet (Abyss:5)
  A hellwing (Pan)
  3 blue devils
  A silent spectre (Zig:11)
  A raven (Zig:3)
  A raiju (Abyss:1)
  2 fire vortices (Pan)
  A giant leech (Zig:3)
  3 slime creatures (Slime:1)
  A flying skull (Zig:11)
  A ynoxinul (Pan)
  A shadow (Crypt:3)
  A neqoxec (Pan)
  A wraith (Crypt:2)
  A yak (D:12)
  2 deep elf magi (Elf:3)
  A deep elf fighter (Elf:3)
  3 nagas (Snake:4)
  A water moccasin (D:5)
  A swamp drake (Zig:3)
  An ice beast (Coc:7)
  3 small abominations
  A black bear (D:7)
  3 killer bees (D:8)
  An eye of draining (Abyss:1)
  A wight (Coc:2)
  A crimson imp (Pan)
  A yellow wasp zombie (Crypt:2)
  A quasit (Abyss:1)
  4 mummies
  2 adders
  A green rat (D:9)
  2 white imps
  3 ufetubi
  An orc (Vaults:5)
  A giant cockroach (D:2)
  A giant newt (D:5)
  2 goblin zombies (Ossuary)
  5 jackals
  2 orc zombies (Ossuary)
  A block of ice (Abyss:5)
157 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  2 golden dragons
  3 eldritch tentacles
  A quicksilver dragon (Zig:11)
  A spellforged servitor (Pan)
  2 fire giants
  A draconian scorcher (Zot:3)
  A stone giant (Depths:1)
  A deep elf annihilator (Elf:3)
  A mottled draconian (Zot:4)
  An ettin (Depths:4)
  An unborn (Abyss:1)
  A green death (Pan)
  A merfolk aquamancer (Shoals:5)
  A thrashing horror (Abyss:5)
  A shock serpent (Snake:2)
  A sun demon (Zot:4)
  A wretched star (Abyss:1)
  An unseen horror (Zig:12)
  8 ball lightnings (Pan)
  A sea snake (Shoals:5)
  A deep elf summoner (Elf:3)
  A naga ritualist (Snake:2)
  2 starcursed masses (Abyss:5)
  5 large abominations
  2 deep elf conjurers (Elf:3)
  An ugly thing (Depths:1)
  A sixfirhy (Pan)
  2 griffons (Shoals:5)
  A mermaid (Shoals:5)
  A frost giant skeleton (Tomb:2)
  An elephant (Lair:6)
  A vault sentinel (Vaults:3)
  A tormentor (Vaults:5)
  A drowned soul (Shoals:2)
  A yaktaur (Vaults:3)
  2 naga magi
  2 deep elf priests (Elf:3)
  2 polar bears (IceCv)
  675 fire vortices
  A snapping turtle (Shoals:5)
  A fire dragon skeleton (Abyss:1)
  2 yaks (IceCv)
  An ice dragon skeleton (Geh:7)
  A vampire (Abyss:3)
  A neqoxec (Abyss:1)
  2 ynoxinuls (Abyss:3)
  A golden eye (Abyss:5)
  A chaos spawn (Abyss:5)
  A naga (Snake:4)
  A yaktaur simulacrum (Vaults:3)
  A golden eye (shapeshifter) (Elf:3)
  A merfolk zombie (Tomb:3)
  A spatial vortex (Abyss:3)
  9 wolves (IceCv)
  6 small abominations
  An orc warrior (D:10)
  A snapping turtle zombie (Geh:7)
  An ogre (Vaults:3)
  A crocodile (Lair:8)
  2 centaurs (Orc:4)
  9 lost souls
  A giant frog (Lair:8)
  2 killer bees (D:11)
  An eye of draining (Abyss:3)
  4 iron imps
  4 crimson imps
  A worker ant (D:6)
  7 mummies (Tomb:2)
  A shadow imp (Lair:8)
  3 ufetubi
  3 white imps
  2 orcs
  4 giant spores
  2 lurking horrors
  3 ballistomycetes
  690 blocks of ice
  A butterfly (Lair:8)
  201 eldritch tentacle segments
  17 fungi
  17 plants
  88 starspawn tentacles
  581 starspawn tentacle segments
  12 tentacles (Shoals:5)
  28 tentacle segments (Shoals:5)
2453 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 11815 creatures vanquished


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My order of events is certainly questionable, but it worked for me. Pan was very scary at first, because I'd never seen any of the monsters before, so I bailed out early so that I could take on the Abyss. But I bailed through the Abyss (which I'd seen a few times and was more comfortable with), so first I had to escape the Abyss to restock and reequip to take on the Abyss. When I finally got the Abyssal rune (on level 5), I had only the choices of Pan and Hell, so I went back to Pan, eventually becoming acclimated to it, and having some great fun with it. I also took advantage of several Zigs there to beef up the character for his eventual Hell trips.

The big four pan lords were easy by the time I met them. Only Lom gave me any grief, with his tornado. (It ain't no fun when the rabbit's got a gun.) I suppose I was fairly lucky on the frequency of the runes there, but the last one seemed to take a while.

The Hell branches were a piece of cake, pretty much. By that time, my spell choices were solidified, and I had become comfortable using the orb of energy to channel, knowing that an eventual result would bring the annoyance of zero MP. But it was an annoyance, only. The power afforded this wizard by such rapid MP gain cannot be overstated, and this technique allowed him to basically walk all over everything in his path. The Hell lords themselves were no match. The only one that was respectfully tough was Dispater. I could clearly see that fighting him with anything less would be very difficult. But he was not at all difficult for this wizard.

The ascension was the epitome of uneventuality, as if I had left alive no lords of evil to wreak their vengeance.

You can find the notes in the full morgue file, if you're interested in more.

As a side note: the runes are not listed on the screen or in the morgue summary in the order they were acquired. I'm wondering if that's a bug.


Watching the Watchers

It is not only the game itself that I am learning, but also people. The spectator window has been a thing of interest to watch, and each person represented by some alphanumeric avatar who has appeared there has been different, and as idiosyncratic as any other. There are some generalities that I have observed, though.

  • Friendly: greets you, stays a while
  • Hostile: snarks at you, leaves quickly
  • Inscrutable: anon, silent as a spectre (can one even reply when anon?)
  • Jabber: has a heated discussion with another jabber that continuously scrolls as you play
  • Lifeguard: logged-in, but quiet until giving life-saving advice
  • Seeker: believes (incorrectly) that you must be an expert to have an XL27 roaming in dire places, so asks for your specific
  • advice about his or her own character (that you've never played)

But the best spectators transcend generalities to become part of the fabric of the game. Those I thank, many I'm sure I've neglected to remember, but to each of you who has devoted thought and concern for this stranger's benefit I say you are among the best of our human species because you behave this way in an unremarkable, anonymous cloud of digital ephemera, for no one else to see, just because it's nice.

That is awesomeness, plain and simple.


Next Steps

All right, what would be absolutely the most abhorrently difficult combo to play in this game, hands-down? Suggestions?

:lol:

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Mummy Chaos Knight.

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Post Sunday, 31st August 2014, 08:27

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Congrats! This was impressive. I thought that winning this one for 15 runes is against the odds (you had to play extensively on unfamiliar territory, facing unknown dangers), but you seem to be a fast learner (certainly faster than me, I splatted my first 3 tries in extended).

As for challenge, MuCK is certainly the most infamous combo (pairing the worst species with the worst god is apt to give you a horrible result). However, I offer you something different, or rather 2 somethings:

First, in the tournament, there is a "Nemelex's Choice" combo, chosen from those that were won less than 8 times online. (And another one is chosen once the previous one is won 5 times in the tournament). As you can guess, these combos are played rarely because they are not good.

Second, after the tournament there will be the 3rd season of the Sudden Death Challenge series (we hope), organized by WalkerBoh. There you play random combos, made harder by some challenges. It is great fun. You can see the forums of the first two seasons in The Dart Board: viewforum.php?f=23

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Magipi wrote:pairing the worst species with the worst god is apt to give you a horrible result

you're not supposed to abandon Xom for Chei though

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Sar wrote:
Magipi wrote:pairing the worst species with the worst god is apt to give you a horrible result

you're not supposed to abandon Xom for Chei though

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An interesting addendum: in the 0.15 tournament, Chei is the only god with no wins (although not for long, Tasonir has 14 runes already).

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Post Sunday, 31st August 2014, 12:08

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I would not suggest to play the hardest combo. That would make you think (mistakenly) that you are expert and lose interest to crawl. I would suggest playing characters with different play style. Something like MiBe/SpEn/OpTm/FeVM/MuSu/CeHu/GhMo/TrHu/KoAs/HaHu/DrWz/NaVM/FoFi/VSMo/MfIE/OgWz/HEAE/TeFE/DsNe/DDHe/GrEE. I am sure I am missing some and you can add unusual gods to change it even more (for example, SpEn of Kiku/Ashenzari/Chei can result in very different game experience).

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