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Post Saturday, 28th June 2014, 00:10

KoHu of Dithmenos - advice?

Hey guys.

So far, I've only won with Gr - My latest character as a MiBe with 6 runes that splatted against Mnoleg (but hey, I saw several levels of pan, and a ziggurat too!)

So I wanted to change gears at switched to another combo that I really enjoy: Kobold stabbing hunter. Dithmenos is the natural complement, although I might try it with a different god another time.

The good news are a +5 dagger of speed, a ring of invisibility which works very well, a crossbow as backup, and stealth.

The bad news are, the time something with sInv appears my only alternative is to try and shoot it full of bolts or run the f**k away. I have zero resistances and low defenses (save for 22 EV). I can't even cast meaningful spells yet - my low int being a bit of a hurdle there.

I'd like to hear any advice or directions you have that could help me carrying this character somewhere comparable to the others, just reaching Vaults I'd be satisfied.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-1766-g0ee8742 (webtiles) character file.

Psiweapon the Covert (Kobold Hunter)               Turns: 19186, Time: 02:02:49

HP  82/82        AC 10     Str 11      XL: 13   Next: 77%
MP  28/28        EV 22     Int 10      God: Dithmenos [*****.]
Gold 734         SH  0     Dex 20      Spells:  3 memorised,  6 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis +     a - +5 dagger (speed)
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     Q - +2 robe "Pseadets" {SInv Stlth+}
rNeg   + . .     rCorr    .     (no shield)
rPois  .         rRot     .     i - +0 helmet
rElec  .         Spirit   .     (no cloak)
SustAb .         Warding  +     S - +2 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Stasis   .     m - +0 pair of boots (curse)
Gourm  .                        C - amulet of warding
MR     .....                    G - ring of wizardry
                                y - ring of invisibility

@: wreathed by umbra, not resistant to hostile enchantments, extraordinarily
stealthy
A: breathe flames 1, carnivore 3
a: Shadow Step, Shadow Form, Renounce Religion, Breathe Fire, Evoke Invisibility


You are on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Dithmenos.
Dithmenos is extremely pleased with you.
You are completely stuffed.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 15 of its levels.

You have collected 871 gold pieces.
You have spent 137 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +5 dagger of speed (weapon)
 b - a +1 crossbow
 M - a +0 long sword
Missiles
 c - 78 bolts
 z - 7 poisoned bolts
 T - 12 poisoned needles
Armour
 i - a +0 helmet (worn)
 m - a cursed +0 pair of boots (worn)
 K - a +1 pair of boots
 Q - the +2 robe "Pseadets" (worn) {SInv Stlth+}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 S - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
Magical devices
 h - a long brass wand
 I - an iron wand
Comestibles
 f - 3 meat rations
 n - 4 slices of pizza
 A - 7 royal jellies
 R - 7 chunks of sheep flesh
Scrolls
 d - a scroll of summoning
 g - 6 scrolls of teleportation
 l - 5 scrolls of fog
 q - 3 scrolls of enchant armour
 x - 5 scrolls of remove curse
 B - a scroll labeled XUD CHA LUW
 E - 4 scrolls of magic mapping
 F - 2 scrolls of fear
 H - 2 scrolls of identify
 J - 2 scrolls labeled QUM DEMERUDAIM
 N - 2 scrolls labeled SAICHES OPEUJINLA
 O - 2 scrolls of blinking
 V - a scroll labeled WAMUITU SIEBRY
Jewellery
 e - an uncursed ring of flight
 s - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
 y - a ring of invisibility (left hand)
 C - an amulet of warding (around neck)
 G - a ring of wizardry (right hand)
 U - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 W - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
Potions
 j - 5 potions of curing
 k - a potion of magic
 o - a potion of agility
 p - a potion of berserk rage
 r - 4 potions of heal wounds
 u - 2 potions of brilliance
 v - 4 potions of lignification
 w - a black potion
 D - an inky potion
 L - a sedimented inky potion
 Z - 2 fizzy red potions
Books
 t - a Young Poisoner's Handbook   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Sting                              Conjuration/Poison           1
   *Cure Poison                       Poison                       2
   Mephitic Cloud                     Conjuration/Poison/Air       3
   Olgreb's Toxic Radiance            Poison                       4
   Venom Bolt                         Conjuration/Poison           5


   Skills:
 - Level 10.1 Fighting
 + Level 12.0 Short Blades
 - Level 11.3 Crossbows
 - Level 4.8 Armour
 - Level 8.0 Dodging
 + Level 13.1 Stealth
 + Level 12.6 Evocations


You have 6 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Freeze                Ice            #...         16%         1    ##.....
b - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       #.........   63%         3    ####...
c - Cure Poison           Pois           #.........   30%         2    ###....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (10/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (0/4) D:10
   Lair (4/8) D:10       
 Swamp: Lair:3-6    Shoals: Lair:3-6     Snake: Lair:3-6    Spider: Lair:3-6

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:6 (   D:8 ?

Annotations:
D:4 Dowan
D:8 Conan321's ghost, experienced DEAE


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are small and have problems with some larger weapons.
You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time.
You can breathe flames.


Message History

R - 5 chunks of sheep flesh
Eat one of 5 chunks of sheep flesh? (ye/n/q/i?)
This raw flesh tastes great.
You continue eating. x2
You start waiting.
Some of the chunks of flesh in your inventory have completely rotted away.
You start waiting.
Your magical contamination has completely faded away.
You see here a sheep corpse.
You start butchering the sheep corpse. You continue butchering the corpse.
You continue butchering the corpse. x2
You finish butchering the sheep corpse.
R - 7 chunks of sheep flesh (gained 3)
You see here a sheep skeleton.
Drop what? (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
Cast which spell? (? or * to list)
Okay, then.
Put on which piece of jewellery? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  7 hydras
  Erica (D:10)
  The ghost of Aumanor the Conjurer, a powerful DEWz of Vehumet (Lair:4)
  4 death yaks (Lair:4)
  A hill giant (D:10)
  An oklob plant (D:10)
  6 elephants (Lair:3)
  A black mamba (Lair:2)
  7 spiny frogs
  3 kobold demonologists (D:9)
  5 komodo dragons
  A fire drake (Lair:4)
  A queen bee (D:8)
  A centaur skeleton (D:10)
  8 blink frogs
  2 wyverns
  A basilisk (Lair:2)
  A deep elf mage (D:10)
  A wraith (D:8)
  15 yaks
  4 hippogriffs
  The ghost of wullow the Cudgeler, an average GrCK of Xom (D:3)
  4 vampire mosquitoes (Lair:3)
  4 water moccasins
  3 sky beasts
  2 orc warriors (D:10)
  2 black bears (D:10)
  2 ogres
  7 centaurs
  A necrophage (D:6)
  5 crocodiles
  3 ice beasts
  A manticore skeleton (D:9)
  2 big kobolds (D:9)
  Duvessa (D:4)
  Blork the orc (D:4)
  8 giant frogs
  An insubstantial wisp (Lair:3)
  4 scorpions
  17 killer bees (D:8)
  A troll zombie (D:8)
  7 wights (D:8)
  3 crimson imps
  A goliath beetle (D:6)
  12 hounds
  3 jellies
  4 human zombies (D:8)
  13 iguanas
  2 orc priests
  7 worker ants
  8 orc wizards
  A human skeleton (D:8)
  11 sheep
  A sky beast zombie (D:10)
  An ogre zombie (D:8)
  2 mummies (D:8)
  4 gnolls
  9 adders
  33 green rats
  A shadow imp (D:8)
  An inept feature mimic (D:4)
  A worm (D:2)
  An orc zombie (D:8)
  An iguana skeleton (D:7)
  An iguana zombie (D:8)
  4 giant geckos
  An ooze (D:3)
  33 orcs
  12 bats
  3 giant cockroaches
  10 hobgoblins
  7 jackals
  12 kobolds
  13 quokkas
  2 ball pythons
  5 giant newts
  2 giant spores
  14 goblins
  A hobgoblin skeleton (D:5)
  A jackal zombie (D:9)
  A kobold skeleton (D:4)
  An orc skeleton (D:5)
  15 rats
  5 ballistomycetes
  2 plants
414 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An orc (D:4)
  A fungus (Lair:1)
2 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 416 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Psiweapon, the Kobold Hunter, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 12/12 MP: 1/1
    27 | D:1      | Reached skill level 5 in Crossbows
    27 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 16/16 MP: 2/2
   360 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 12/20 MP: 3/3
  1057 | D:2      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  1365 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 25/25 MP: 4/4
  1413 | D:2      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  1737 | D:3      | Noticed wullow's ghost (average GrCK)
  2008 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  2008 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 9/29 MP: 4/6
  2278 | D:3      | Noticed an ogre
  2295 | D:3      | Killed an ogre
  2295 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Crossbows
  2295 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
  2295 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 11/34 MP: 5/8
  2536 | D:3      | Killed wullow's ghost
  2832 | D:3      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  2927 | D:3      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  3118 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You can breathe flames. [mutagenic glow]
  3605 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 38/38 MP: 11/11
  3776 | D:4      | Noticed Blork the orc
  3784 | D:4      | Killed Blork the orc
  3784 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Crossbows
  4483 | D:4      | Noticed Duvessa
  4484 | D:4      | Noticed Dowan
  4752 | D:4      | Killed Duvessa
  5307 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5312 | D:5      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  5446 | D:5      | Noticed a wyvern
  5448 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 43/43 MP: 11/14
  5454 | D:5      | Killed a wyvern
  5454 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
  6255 | D:6      | Found Piesol Kada's Antique Weapon Shop.
  6476 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth
  6927 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 47/47 MP: 13/15
  7068 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth
  7258 | D:6      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  7795 | D:7      | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
  8022 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  8043 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  8142 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Dithmenos the Shadowed
  8219 | D:7      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  8689 | D:7      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  8692 | D:7      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  8692 | D:7      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  8692 | D:7      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  8875 | D:8      | Noticed a queen bee
  8878 | D:8      | Killed a queen bee
  8878 | D:8      | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth
  8879 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades
  8892 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 52/52 MP: 17/17
  9079 | D:8      | Learned a level 1 spell: Freeze
  9133 | D:8      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  9250 | D:8      | Found Ukalair's Magic Scroll Shop.
  9268 | D:8      | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth
  9379 | D:8      | Got a silk robe
  9380 | D:8      | Identified the +2 robe "Pseadets" {SInv Stlth+} (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
  9425 | D:8      | Got a faintly glowing ring mail
  9523 | D:8      | Identified the +4 ring mail of Whack-A-Mole {+Rage} (You took it off an orc on level 8 of the Dungeon)
  9557 | D:8      | Bought a scroll of blinking for 82 gold pieces
  9557 | D:8      | Bought a scroll of remove curse for 33 gold pieces
  9557 | D:8      | Bought a scroll of identify for 22 gold pieces
  9782 | D:8      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  9809 | D:8      | Acquired Dithmenos' first power
 10004 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 10092 | D:8      | Noticed Conan321's ghost (experienced DEAE)
 10537 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 10550 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 11154 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 64/64 MP: 20/20
 11191 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 11203 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 11216 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 11485 | D:10     | Acquired Dithmenos' second power
 12137 | D:10     | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 12526 | D:10     | Noticed Erica
 12539 | D:10     | Killed Erica
 12737 | D:10     | Noticed an oklob plant
 12845 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 12849 | D:10     | Killed an oklob plant
 13075 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 13264 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 13609 | Lair:1   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 13636 | Lair:1   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 13636 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 56/76 MP: 23/23
 14249 | Lair:1   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 14254 | Lair:1   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 14274 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 14665 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 14668 | Lair:2   | Acquired Dithmenos' third power
 15247 | Lair:2   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 15256 | Lair:2   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 15256 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
 15591 | Lair:1   | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-1723-gae8f746 to 0.15-a0-1729-g99b9770
 15603 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
 15677 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Crossbows
 16378 | Lair:3   | Learned a level 2 spell: Cure Poison
 16486 | Lair:3   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 16493 | Lair:3   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 16493 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 82/82 MP: 27/27
 16506 | Lair:3   | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-1729-g99b9770 to 0.15-a0-1766-g0ee8742
 16906 | Lair:3   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 16916 | Lair:3   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 17754 | Lair:4   | Acquired Dithmenos' fourth power
 18097 | Lair:4   | Noticed Aumanor's ghost (powerful DEWz)
 18119 | Lair:4   | Killed Aumanor's ghost
 18357 | Lair:4   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 18368 | Lair:4   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 18513 | Lair:4   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 18521 | Lair:4   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 18650 | Lair:4   | Noticed a death yak
 18666 | Lair:4   | Killed a death yak
 18794 | Lair:4   | Noticed a death yak
 18794 | Lair:4   | Noticed a death yak
 18794 | Lair:4   | Noticed a death yak
 18799 | Lair:4   | Killed a death yak
 18800 | Lair:4   | Killed a death yak
 18800 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth
 18802 | Lair:4   | Killed a death yak


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Short sword       |    85 |    68 |    12 |       |       ||   165
       Dagger            |       |    31 |   195 |   658 |   176 ||  1060
       Long sword        |       |       |       |    17 |       ||    17
 Fire: Crossbow          |    42 |    24 |    13 |    61 |    16 ||   156
 Cast: Freeze            |       |       |       |     5 |       ||     5
 Abil: Evoke Invisibilit |       |     9 |    27 |    36 |    13 ||    85
       Turn Visible      |       |     1 |    14 |    22 |    12 ||    49
       Breathe Fire      |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
  Use: Potion            |     2 |       |     1 |     1 |     1 ||     5
       Scroll            |       |    10 |     3 |    11 |       ||    24
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |     9 |    48 |    89 |    27 ||   173
       Invisible         |       |     5 |    20 |    44 |    36 ||   105
       Distracted        |       |     1 |       |     1 |       ||     2

Hirsch I wrote:Also,are you calling me a power-gamer? this is highly offensive! now excuse me, I have to go back to my GrBe game, that I savescummed until trog gave me a Vampiric +9 claymore.

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Post Saturday, 28th June 2014, 01:18

Re: KoHu of Dithmenos - advice?

Today is the day I wrote up a few paragraphs of advice before I noticed you had a ring of invisibility, even though you mentioned it, and almost gave terrible advice. I caught this before posting it, and let's try this one more time:

Stabbing and invis is great, and should last you for a while. But you already have all the skills you need for that, and I don't think you need any more short blades, unless you're ever going to use a cutlass. Turn off short blades. I would also probably turn off stealth and evocations (What % fail is invis? I assume it's fairly low by now.) You want to train for the monsters that won't be trivialized by invis stabbing; so train crossbows, then some defenses. You're a bit short on bolts, and if you'd rather work on a better melee weapon you could do that, but it's hard to train for something you don't have and don't know when/if you'll find it. Crossbows you already have, and will hopefully be able to stab your way through long enough to find additional bolts.

Aside from the stabbing core, which I think is already fairly strong, you'll basically just be training crossbows, dodging, and fighting. Eventually you may double back for additional stealth, but you'll probably manage that better than I do, I don't generally play stealth builds. If you find good magic and want to train that up, go ahead, but like you said, 10 int and you're not really set up for high level magic. I'd try to limit your magic to easily castable spells without much training. You'll probably want medium to heavy armor, unless you find a lot of spells you want, and would rather get haste than AC, which is a perfectly fine choice. If you do end up with medium or heavier armor, train some armor skill. But you'll want something that doesn't completely kill your EV, since you're small. FDA/IDA are my favorites, but it depends on what you find and your resists of course. Swamp and mottled are also very powerful.
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Post Saturday, 28th June 2014, 01:44

Re: KoHu of Dithmenos - advice?

Thanks for replying.

The body armours I have available are a +2 robe of sInv and Stealth, and a +4 chain mail of +rage.

The first leaves me at 11 AC and 22 EV, the second one at 15 and 15. I'm sticking with the first for now - the second is ANOTHER source of contam, plus any situation where rage could be useful is a situation I shouldn't have gotten into to begin with. I'll be on the lookout fordecent medium armors.

Should I get a buckler? I guess I should, since I have no reason to worry about spellcasting penalties yet.

EDIT: No wait, no crossbow. Fuck bucklers.
Hirsch I wrote:Also,are you calling me a power-gamer? this is highly offensive! now excuse me, I have to go back to my GrBe game, that I savescummed until trog gave me a Vampiric +9 claymore.

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Post Saturday, 28th June 2014, 01:46

Re: KoHu of Dithmenos - advice?

Buckler can't hurt the stabbing at all, but it won't be compatible with crossbows later on. Probably still a good idea to look out for a good one, but you'll want to consider if you're going to make the investment in 7 shields skill for it. 7 skill isn't too terribly much to 'waste' if you do end up going with crossbows in the long run, though.
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Post Saturday, 28th June 2014, 02:08

Re: KoHu of Dithmenos - advice?

tasonir wrote:Buckler can't hurt the stabbing at all, but it won't be compatible with crossbows later on. Probably still a good idea to look out for a good one, but you'll want to consider if you're going to make the investment in 7 shields skill for it. 7 skill isn't too terribly much to 'waste' if you do end up going with crossbows in the long run, though.


Nah. I prefer switching crossbow and dagger without hassle. Unless I find an awesome artifact buckler, which is unlikely.
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Post Saturday, 28th June 2014, 04:38

Re: KoHu of Dithmenos - advice?

I'd identify stuff and use enchant armor on those auxiliary slots (helmet and boots).

Right now I'd probably train ice magic (mostly) and just a bit of charms until oz's armor was at like 20% failure, then invocations so Dith's active abilities aren't worthless, then dodging.
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Post Sunday, 29th June 2014, 00:27

Re: KoHu of Dithmenos - advice?

I just found a Vampire's Tooth in one of the shops at O:4

(A mix of invistabbing, running the hell away and shooting repeatedly let me clear the place)

It costs nearly all I got, should I buy it? Other weapon/armor shops haven't carried anything interesting so far.

I also found a source of rPois (a leather armor) and an actually useful rod of the swarm.

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  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-1766-g0ee8742 (webtiles) character file.

Psiweapon the Sharpshooter (Kobold Hunter)         Turns: 42341, Time: 04:25:05

HP 102/102       AC 14     Str 11      XL: 16   Next: 56%
MP  31/31        EV 23     Int 10      God: Dithmenos [******]
Gold 1949        SH  0     Dex 22      Spells:  4 memorised,  5 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis +     a - +5 dagger (speed)
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     Q - +2 robe "Pseadets" {SInv Stlth+}
rNeg   + . .     rCorr    .     (no shield)
rPois  .         rRot     .     i - +2 helmet
rElec  .         Spirit   .     (no cloak)
SustAb .         Warding  +     S - +2 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Stasis   .     K - +2 pair of boots
Gourm  .                        C - amulet of warding
MR     +....                    G - ring of wizardry
                                y - ring of invisibility

@: very slightly contaminated, wreathed by umbra, somewhat resistant to hostile
enchantments, extraordinarily stealthy
A: breathe flames 1, carnivore 3
a: Shadow Step, Shadow Form, Renounce Religion, Breathe Fire, Evoke Invisibility


You are on level 4 of the Orcish Mines.
You worship Dithmenos.
Dithmenos is exalted by your worship.
You are very full.

You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 27 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ice Cave.

You have collected 2535 gold pieces.
You have spent 586 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +5 dagger of speed (weapon)
 b - a +0 crossbow of freezing
 c - a +0 short sword of speed
 d - a +1 dagger of protection
 q - a glowing broad axe
 N - a glowing dagger
 V - a runed short sword
Missiles
 w - 22 steel bolts
 X - 80 bolts
Armour
 i - a +2 helmet (worn)
 K - a +2 pair of boots (worn)
 L - a +1 leather armour of poison resistance
 P - a glowing shield {Donald}
 Q - the +2 robe "Pseadets" (worn) {SInv Stlth+}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 S - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
Magical devices
 h - a wand of teleportation (4)
 t - a wand of cold (1)
 I - a wand of slowing {zapped: 1}
 R - a wand of frost (8)
 T - a wand of confusion (7)
 Z - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 1}
Comestibles
 f - 7 meat rations
 n - 3 slices of pizza
 A - 7 royal jellies
Scrolls
 g - 3 scrolls of teleportation
 l - 5 scrolls of fog
 x - 6 scrolls of remove curse
 B - 4 scrolls of vulnerability
 E - 4 scrolls of magic mapping
 F - a scroll of fear
 O - 4 scrolls of blinking
Jewellery
 e - an uncursed ring of flight
 s - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
 y - a ring of invisibility (left hand)
 z - a ring of protection from cold
 C - an amulet of warding (around neck)
 G - a ring of wizardry (right hand)
 J - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
 U - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 W - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
Potions
 j - 16 potions of curing
 k - 2 potions of magic
 o - 2 potions of agility
 p - 3 potions of berserk rage
 r - 5 potions of heal wounds
 u - 2 potions of brilliance
 v - 4 potions of lignification
Miscellaneous
 M - a plain deck of defence {the Tomb}
Rods
 H - a +6 rod of the swarm (10/10)
   (You acquired it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)


   Skills:
 - Level 12.3 Fighting
 - Level 13.3 Short Blades
 + Level 15.8 Crossbows
 - Level 6.0 Armour
 - Level 8.0 Dodging
 - Level 13.1 Stealth
 - Level 3.1 Transmutations
 - Level 5.6 Ice Magic
 - Level 3.4 Earth Magic
 - Level 8.7 Invocations
 - Level 12.6 Evocations


You have 5 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Freeze                Ice            ##..         1%          1    ##.....
b - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       #.........   16%         3    ####...
c - Cure Poison           Pois           #.........   30%         2    ###....
d - Petrify               Trmt/Erth      #.......     61%         4    #####..


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (14/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (4/4) D:10
    Elf (0/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:10          Swamp (0/5) Lair:5
 Spider (0/5) Lair:5        Slime (0/6) Lair:6     
Vaults: D:13-14     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:6 (   D:8 ?   D:13 *   D:14 :   Orc:2 [   Orc:4 (([(=

Annotations:
D:4 Dowan
D:13 exclusion: electric eel


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are small and have problems with some larger weapons.
You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time.
You can breathe flames.


Message History

You hit the orc warrior.
The orc warrior is lightly wounded.
Your shadow barely misses the orc warrior.
You catch the helpless orc warrior completely off-guard!
You spit the orc warrior like a pig!!!
You kill the orc warrior!
Dithmenos accepts your kill.
Use which ability? (? or * to list)
You feel less transparent.
You flicker back into view.
X - 75 bolts (gained 5)
X - 76 bolts (gained 1)
Things that are here:
a robe; a dagger
Things that are here:
a dagger; a plate armour
X - 80 bolts (gained 4)
There is an entrance to Waufa's Antique Armour Boutique here.
There is an entrance to Weiw's Weapon Shoppe here.
There is an entrance to Baajebuo's Weapon Boutique here.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Donald (Orc:3)
  A white draconian (IceCv)
  Snorg (Orc:3)
  11 hydras
  Harold (Lair:8)
  2 rakshasas
  Erica (D:10)
  3 orc high priests (Orc:4)
  The ghost of Aumanor the Conjurer, a powerful DEWz of Vehumet (Lair:4)
  A centaur warrior (D:13)
  5 death yaks
  6 unseen horrors
  An orb spider (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  4 hill giants
  6 orc sorcerers
  An oklob plant (D:10)
  A manticore (D:13)
  4 orc knights (Orc:4)
  A moth of wrath (shapeshifter) (D:13)
  A griffon (Lair:5)
  2 cyclopes
  21 elephants
  A smoke demon (Orc:4)
  5 black mambas
  The ghost of Conan321 the Thaumaturge, an experienced DEAE of Vehumet (D:8)
  4 gargoyles (D:13)
  15 spiny frogs
  8 kobold demonologists
  11 komodo dragons
  A tengu conjurer (D:13)
  4 fire drakes
  A yaktaur (D:13)
  A queen bee (D:8)
  An efreet (D:13)
  A wandering mushroom (Lair:6)
  A two-headed ogre (Orc:4)
  16 polar bears
  2 centaur skeletons
  3 trolls
  2 giant leeches (Lair:5)
  16 blink frogs
  A hydra skeleton (D:12)
  3 wyverns
  A basilisk (Lair:2)
  2 vampires
  A shadow (D:11)
  12 ugly things
  3 deep elf magi
  A hill giant zombie (D:12)
  2 wraiths
  44 yaks
  18 wolves
  7 hippogriffs
  The ghost of wullow the Cudgeler, an average GrCK of Xom (D:3)
  A mottled dragon (D:13)
  12 vampire mosquitoes
  16 water moccasins
  2 yellow wasps
  5 porcupines
  3 sky beasts
  2 phantoms
  23 orc warriors
  3 black bears
  10 ogres
  14 centaurs
  A necrophage (D:6)
  9 crocodiles
  4 ice beasts
  A manticore skeleton (D:9)
  4 big kobolds
  Duvessa (D:4)
  A boring beetle (Lair:8)
  Blork the orc (D:4)
  33 giant frogs
  An insubstantial wisp (Lair:3)
  4 scorpions
  A yaktaur skeleton (D:13)
  17 killer bees (D:8)
  5 electric eels (Lair:8)
  3 eyes of draining
  A troll zombie (D:8)
  10 wights
  A troll skeleton (D:11)
  5 crimson imps
  2 goliath beetles
  A giant frog zombie (D:12)
  16 hounds
  3 jellies
  4 human zombies (D:8)
  16 iguanas
  24 orc priests
  A quasit (D:13)
  16 worker ants
  35 orc wizards
  A human skeleton (D:8)
  19 sheep
  6 orange rats (Lair:7)
  A sky beast zombie (D:10)
  An ogre zombie (D:8)
  2 mummies (D:8)
  4 gnolls
  29 adders
  12 white imps (D:11)
  48 green rats
  4 shadow imps
  2 inept feature mimics
  A worm (D:2)
  6 orc zombies
  An iguana skeleton (D:7)
  An iguana zombie (D:8)
  5 giant geckos
  An ooze (D:3)
  172 orcs
  12 bats
  3 giant cockroaches
  13 hobgoblins
  7 jackals
  21 kobolds
  19 quokkas
  2 ball pythons
  5 giant newts
  2 giant spores
  19 goblins
  A hobgoblin skeleton (D:5)
  A jackal zombie (D:9)
  A kobold skeleton (D:4)
  An orc skeleton (D:5)
  15 rats
  5 ballistomycetes
  A fungus (Lair:8)
  4 plants
1026 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  An orc sorcerer (Orc:4)
  A giant leech (Lair:8)
  6 wolves
  A centaur (D:13)
  A worker ant (D:13)
  3 orc zombies (Orc:4)
13 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  2 vampire mosquitoes
  5 scorpions
  13 killer bees
  2 goliath beetles (D:13)
  7 worker ants
  A worm (D:13)
  2 orcs
  A giant spore (D:12)
  2 ballistomycetes (D:12)
  3 butterflies (Orc:4)
  A fungus (Lair:1)
  2 plants
41 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1080 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Psiweapon, the Kobold Hunter, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 12/12 MP: 1/1
    27 | D:1      | Reached skill level 5 in Crossbows
    27 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 16/16 MP: 2/2
   360 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 12/20 MP: 3/3
  1057 | D:2      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  1365 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 25/25 MP: 4/4
  1413 | D:2      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  1737 | D:3      | Noticed wullow's ghost (average GrCK)
  2008 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  2008 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 9/29 MP: 4/6
  2278 | D:3      | Noticed an ogre
  2295 | D:3      | Killed an ogre
  2295 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Crossbows
  2295 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
  2295 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 11/34 MP: 5/8
  2536 | D:3      | Killed wullow's ghost
  2832 | D:3      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  2927 | D:3      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  3118 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You can breathe flames. [mutagenic glow]
  3605 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 38/38 MP: 11/11
  3776 | D:4      | Noticed Blork the orc
  3784 | D:4      | Killed Blork the orc
  3784 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Crossbows
  4483 | D:4      | Noticed Duvessa
  4484 | D:4      | Noticed Dowan
  4752 | D:4      | Killed Duvessa
  5307 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5312 | D:5      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  5446 | D:5      | Noticed a wyvern
  5448 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 43/43 MP: 11/14
  5454 | D:5      | Killed a wyvern
  5454 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
  6255 | D:6      | Found Piesol Kada's Antique Weapon Shop.
  6476 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth
  6927 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 47/47 MP: 13/15
  7068 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth
  7258 | D:6      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  7795 | D:7      | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
  8022 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  8043 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  8142 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Dithmenos the Shadowed
  8219 | D:7      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  8689 | D:7      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  8692 | D:7      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  8692 | D:7      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  8692 | D:7      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  8875 | D:8      | Noticed a queen bee
  8878 | D:8      | Killed a queen bee
  8878 | D:8      | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth
  8879 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades
  8892 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 52/52 MP: 17/17
  9079 | D:8      | Learned a level 1 spell: Freeze
  9133 | D:8      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  9250 | D:8      | Found Ukalair's Magic Scroll Shop.
  9268 | D:8      | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth
  9379 | D:8      | Got a silk robe
  9380 | D:8      | Identified the +2 robe "Pseadets" {SInv Stlth+} (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
  9425 | D:8      | Got a faintly glowing ring mail
  9523 | D:8      | Identified the +4 ring mail of Whack-A-Mole {+Rage} (You took it off an orc on level 8 of the Dungeon)
  9557 | D:8      | Bought a scroll of blinking for 82 gold pieces
  9557 | D:8      | Bought a scroll of remove curse for 33 gold pieces
  9557 | D:8      | Bought a scroll of identify for 22 gold pieces
  9782 | D:8      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  9809 | D:8      | Acquired Dithmenos' first power
 10004 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 10092 | D:8      | Noticed Conan321's ghost (experienced DEAE)
 10537 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 10550 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 11154 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 64/64 MP: 20/20
 11191 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 11203 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 11216 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 11485 | D:10     | Acquired Dithmenos' second power
 12137 | D:10     | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 12526 | D:10     | Noticed Erica
 12539 | D:10     | Killed Erica
 12737 | D:10     | Noticed an oklob plant
 12845 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 12849 | D:10     | Killed an oklob plant
 13075 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 13264 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 13609 | Lair:1   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 13636 | Lair:1   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 13636 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 56/76 MP: 23/23
 14249 | Lair:1   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 14254 | Lair:1   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 14274 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 14665 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 14668 | Lair:2   | Acquired Dithmenos' third power
 15247 | Lair:2   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 15256 | Lair:2   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 15256 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
 15591 | Lair:1   | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-1723-gae8f746 to 0.15-a0-1729-g99b9770
 15603 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
 15677 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Crossbows
 16378 | Lair:3   | Learned a level 2 spell: Cure Poison
 16486 | Lair:3   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 16493 | Lair:3   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 16493 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 82/82 MP: 27/27
 16506 | Lair:3   | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-1729-g99b9770 to 0.15-a0-1766-g0ee8742
 16906 | Lair:3   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 16916 | Lair:3   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 17754 | Lair:4   | Acquired Dithmenos' fourth power
 18097 | Lair:4   | Noticed Aumanor's ghost (powerful DEWz)
 18119 | Lair:4   | Killed Aumanor's ghost
 18357 | Lair:4   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 18368 | Lair:4   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 18513 | Lair:4   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 18521 | Lair:4   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 18650 | Lair:4   | Noticed a death yak
 18666 | Lair:4   | Killed a death yak
 18794 | Lair:4   | Noticed a death yak
 18794 | Lair:4   | Noticed a death yak
 18794 | Lair:4   | Noticed a death yak
 18799 | Lair:4   | Killed a death yak
 18800 | Lair:4   | Killed a death yak
 18800 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 13 in Stealth
 18802 | Lair:4   | Killed a death yak
 19593 | Lair:4   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 19600 | Lair:4   | Identified a +6 rod of the swarm (10/10) (You acquired it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)
 19812 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 88/88 MP: 29/29
 20366 | Lair:5   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 20746 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 21769 | D:8      | Killed Conan321's ghost
 22264 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 4 spell: Petrify
 22664 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 22676 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic
 22809 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 1 in Transmutations
 23650 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 25455 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 26936 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
 27332 | Lair:8   | Noticed Harold
 27340 | Lair:8   | Killed Harold
 27343 | Lair:8   | Reached XP level 15. HP: 95/95 MP: 30/30
 28957 | D:11     | Found a frozen archway.
 29000 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 29445 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 14 in Crossbows
 30665 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
 31361 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic
 33756 | D:13     | Found Poci's Assorted Antiques.
 33759 | D:13     | Bought a jewelled helmet for 294 gold pieces
 33759 | D:13     | Bought a scroll of identify for 62 gold pieces
 33759 | D:13     | Bought a scroll of identify for 62 gold pieces
 33759 | D:13     | Bought a scroll labeled QOOC ORALOLE for 31 gold pieces
 33760 | D:13     | Identified the cursed -5 helmet "Alithu" {Int+1 Slay+3} (You bought it in a shop on level 13 of the Dungeon)
 34511 | D:13     | Reached skill level 15 in Crossbows
 34690 | D:13     | Reached XP level 16. HP: 102/102 MP: 31/31
 35893 | D:13     | Noticed a storm dragon
 35961 | D:14     | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
 35965 | D:14     | Found Itsuent's Book Boutique.
 36256 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 37618 | Orc:2    | You fall through a shaft!
 37889 | Orc:3    | Noticed Snorg
 37894 | Orc:3    | Killed Snorg
 38082 | Orc:3    | Noticed Donald
 38085 | Orc:3    | Killed Donald
 38943 | Orc:2    | Found Phi Seng's Armour Shop.
 39433 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 39439 | Orc:4    | Found Heigetiopn's Jewellery Boutique.
 41069 | Orc:4    | Found Weiw's Weapon Shoppe.
 41079 | Orc:4    | Found Baajebuo's Weapon Boutique.
 41079 | Orc:4    | Found Waufa's Antique Armour Boutique.
 41079 | Orc:4    | Found Esemp's Weapon Shoppe.
 42024 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Short sword       |    85 |    68 |    12 |       |   181 |    96 ||   442
       Dagger            |       |    31 |   195 |   658 |  1009 |   326 ||  2219
       Long sword        |       |       |       |    17 |       |       ||    17
 Fire: Crossbow          |    42 |    24 |    13 |    61 |   188 |   170 ||   498
 Cast: Freeze            |       |       |       |     5 |       |       ||     5
       Ozocubu's Armour  |       |       |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
Invok: Shadow Step       |       |       |       |       |     2 |     4 ||     6
 Abil: Evoke Invisibilit |       |     9 |    27 |    36 |    84 |    33 ||   189
       Turn Visible      |       |     1 |    14 |    22 |    61 |    20 ||   118
       Breathe Fire      |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
Evoke: Rod               |       |       |       |       |     4 |     9 ||    13
       Wand              |       |       |       |       |     8 |    11 ||    19
  Use: Potion            |     2 |       |     1 |     1 |     2 |       ||     6
       Scroll            |       |    10 |     3 |    11 |    17 |     4 ||    45
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |     9 |    48 |    89 |   174 |    99 ||   419
       Invisible         |       |     5 |    20 |    44 |   156 |    65 ||   290
       Distracted        |       |     1 |       |     1 |    10 |     3 ||    15

Hirsch I wrote:Also,are you calling me a power-gamer? this is highly offensive! now excuse me, I have to go back to my GrBe game, that I savescummed until trog gave me a Vampiric +9 claymore.

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