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Joined: Wednesday, 4th June 2014, 15:47

Post Wednesday, 4th June 2014, 16:11

CIP: GrBe - what next?

This is by far the furthest I've ever made it in Crawl. This GrBe has tabbed through spider and swamp, only really having to stop and think when I bumped into the Lernaean hydra.

Now I'm wondering what to do next. I cleared Vault:1 pretty easily but ended up banished via distortion in Vaults:2. I barely escaped & thought I'd try Slime first, but I'm nervous because I don't have rMut and I've only found maybe 2 cure mutation potions.

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owentm the Shatterer (Gargoyle Berserker)          Turns: 58530, Time: 04:08:17

HP 103/128       AC 48     Str 29      XL: 20   Next: 92%
MP  28/28        EV 15     Int  9      God: Trog [******]
Gold 1865        SH  0     Dex 17      Spells:  0 memorised, 19 levels left

rFire  + . .     SeeInvis .     a - +7,+3 flail of Success {crush, +Blink}
rCold  + . .     Clarity  +     O - +6 pearl dragon armour of Vanity {rN+ Dex+2}
rNeg   + + .     Conserve .     (no shield)
rPois  +         rCorr    .     j - +2 hat of the Alchemist {rElec rF+ rC+ MR+}
rElec  +         rRot     +     y - +0 cloak
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     l - +1 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Warding  .     K - +2 pair of boots of the Assassin {Stlth++}
Saprov . . .     Stasis   .     X - amulet of clarity
MR     ++...                    L - ring of sustenance
                                c - +6 ring of dexterity

@: flying, very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely stealthy
A: able to fly continuously, large and strong wings, carnivore 1, life
protection 1, electricity resistance, unbreathing, petrification resistance, AC
+15
a: Stop Flying, Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms,
Renounce Religion, Evoke Blink
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer


You are on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are full.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 40 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 1 time.
You have also visited: Bailey.

You have collected 4132 gold pieces.
You have spent 2267 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - the +7,+3 flail of Success (weapon) {crush, +Blink}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   It lets you blink.
 b - a +3,+3 longbow of flame
 i - a glowing great mace {god gift}
 s - a +5,+5 great mace of protection
 C - a +2,+2 flail of holy wrath
 D - a +0,+3 anti-magic demon whip
Missiles
 r - 274 arrows
 u - 15 arrows of frost
 z - 44 poisoned arrows
 S - 35 arrows of dispersal
 V - 38 arrows of flame
Armour
 j - the +2 hat of the Alchemist (worn) {rElec rF+ rC+ MR+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 l - a +1 pair of gloves (worn)
 y - a +0 cloak (worn)
 K - the +2 pair of boots of the Assassin (worn) {Stlth++}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It makes you much more stealthy.
 O - the +6 pearl dragon armour of Vanity (worn) {rN+ Dex+2}
   (You took it off an orc priest on level 9 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It protects you from negative energy.
Magical devices
 f - a wand of enslavement {zapped: 1}
 g - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 1}
 h - a wand of digging {zapped: 1}
 m - a wand of fire {zapped: 5}
 n - a wand of paralysis
 t - a wand of confusion {zapped: 2}
 x - a wand of frost {zapped: 3}
 A - a wand of fire (7)
 G - a wand of heal wounds {zapped: 4}
 H - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 3}
 J - a wand of draining {zapped: 1}
 M - a wand of flame (7)
 Q - a wand of slowing {zapped: 1}
 R - a wand of lightning {zapped: 1}
 U - a wand of confusion {zapped: 1}
 W - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 1}
Scrolls
 d - a scroll of remove curse
 p - a scroll of enchant armour
 N - 2 scrolls of identify
 T - a scroll of silence
Jewellery
 c - a +6 ring of dexterity (left hand)
 w - a ring of protection from fire
 B - a glowing tourmaline ring
 F - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 L - a ring of sustenance (right hand)
 X - an amulet of clarity (around neck)
Potions
 e - 5 potions of brilliance
 k - 7 potions of might
 o - 3 potions of agility
 q - 2 potions of restore abilities
 v - 8 potions of curing
 E - a potion of heal wounds
 I - 2 potions of invisibility
 P - a potion of magic


   Skills:
 + Level 14.4 Fighting
 * Level 22.5 Maces & Flails
 * Level 14.7 Bows
 - Level 15.6 Armour
 - Level 9.1 Dodging
 + Level 14.7 Stealth
 - Level 6.3 Evocations


You have 19 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (0/1) D:5             Orc (4/4) D:10
    Elf (0/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:9           Swamp (5/5) Lair:5
 Spider (5/5) Lair:6        Slime (1/6) Lair:7       Vaults (2/5) D:13
 Depths (0/5) D:15       
 Crypt: Vaults:2-3 

Altars:
Ashenzari
Elyvilon
Makhleb
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:5 ?   D:9 (   D:11 [   D:14 %   Orc:4 }[*[

Annotations:
D:8 2 exclusions
D:11 exclusions: feature mimic and player ghost, whataluser's ghost, powerful TrMo
Swamp:3 2 exclusions, Jorgrun
Vaults:2 Agnes


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
You are immune to poison.
You are immune to rotting.
You can fly continuously.
Your stone body is very resilient (AC +15).
Your wings are large and strong.
You resist negative energy.
You are resistant to electric shocks.
You can survive without breathing.
You are immune to petrification.
Your digestive system is specialised to digest meat.


Message History

There is a staircase to the Slime Pits here.
There is a viscous altar of Jiyva here.
You start resting.
You start resting.
A water moccasin comes into view.
You hit the water moccasin.
The water moccasin is lightly wounded.
The water moccasin closely misses you.
You sock the water moccasin!
The water moccasin is severely wounded.
The water moccasin closely misses you.
You sock the water moccasin!
You kill the water moccasin!
Trog accepts your kill.
Something appears at your feet!
Trog grants you a gift!
u - 15 arrows of frost
You offer a prayer to Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
Saving game... please wait.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  the Lernaean hydra (Swamp:5)
  A tentacled monstrosity (Vaults:1)
  An acid blob (Slime:1)
  A tentacled starspawn (Abyss:1)
  3 sphinxes
  3 thorn hunters
  Frances (D:15)
  Kirke (D:15)
  A revenant (Abyss:1)
  2 frost giants
  An orc warlord (Orc:4)
  7 vault wardens
  Louise (Spider:5)
  7 emperor scorpions
  A balrug (Abyss:1)
  4 ghost moths (Spider:5)
  3 stone giants
  A deep elf annihilator (Vaults:1)
  A green death (Abyss:1)
  An ettin (D:15)
  11 vault guards
  Josephine (Spider:1)
  2 great orbs of eyes
  2 yaktaur captains (Vaults:1)
  Fannar (Orc:3)
  Harold (D:10)
  7 ironheart preservers
  3 ice dragons
  2 ogre magi
  2 shambling mangroves
  32 hydras
  5 tengu warriors
  8 alligators
  4 orc high priests
  Urug (D:10)
  A thrashing horror (Abyss:1)
  Nergalle (D:15)
  3 iron trolls (D:15)
  3 unseen horrors
  9 centaur warriors
  2 wretched stars (Abyss:1)
  3 fire crabs
  2 skeletal warriors (D:15)
  A large abomination (Abyss:1)
  10 swamp dragons
  A spriggan druid (Swamp:4)
  2 shadow wraiths (Vaults:2)
  A giant orange brain (Vaults:1)
  25 orb spiders
  4 deep trolls (Vaults:2)
  A flayed ghost (D:15)
  17 orc knights
  A deep elf summoner (Vaults:1)
  7 hill giants
  2 wolf spider zombies (Spider:1)
  4 lindwurms (Lair:7)
  4 manticores
  5 ironbrand convokers
  A necromancer (D:13)
  A wizard (Vaults:1)
  35 wolf spiders
  4 orc sorcerers
  4 red wasps
  4 griffons
  11 cyclopes
  A deep elf conjurer (Vaults:1)
  4 black mambas
  A worldbinder (Abyss:1)
  A mermaid (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  12 elephants
  7 vault sentinels
  A queen ant (Spider:3)
  18 spiny frogs
  3 feature mimics
  An eye of devastation (Abyss:1)
  2 gargoyles (D:12)
  3 vapours
  Psyche (D:13)
  3 kobold demonologists
  15 demonic crawlers
  22 yaktaurs
  2 efreet
  A centaur zombie (D:15)
  3 ancient zymes (Abyss:1)
  9 trolls
  4 fire drakes
  4 freezing wraiths
  A hydra zombie (D:15)
  A hellwing (Vaults:2)
  8 komodo dragons
  2 deep elf priests (Vaults:1)
  A centaur skeleton (D:15)
  14 giant leeches
  13 baby alligators
  26 jumping spiders
  Sonja (Orc:2)
  8 giant fireflies
  A boggart (D:15)
  2 red devils (D:8)
  6 boulder beetles
  21 ravens
  3 bog bodies
  A tengu simulacrum (Vaults:2)
  5 two-headed ogres
  A fire dragon zombie (D:13)
  23 slime creatures
  2 brown oozes (Slime:1)
  11 blink frogs
  9 wyverns
  2 basilisks
  8 thorn lotuses
  33 trapdoor spiders
  A vampire (D:15)
  4 spriggans
  7 wraiths
  43 redbacks
  3 hogs (D:15)
  21 humans (D:13)
  29 yaks
  8 shadows
  5 deep elf fighters
  A hill giant zombie (D:13)
  4 ynoxinuls (Abyss:1)
  28 tarantellas
  A steam dragon (D:9)
  5 deep elf magi
  The ghost of Amon the Shield-Bearer, an average FoFi (D:5)
  A shark (Spider:4)
  2 neqoxecs
  Grum (Orc:1)
  2 hungry ghosts
  12 ugly things
  38 vampire mosquitoes
  8 hippogriffs
  A chaos spawn (Abyss:1)
  21 swamp worms
  4 wargs
  An ogre zombie (D:15)
  Menkaure (D:4)
  6 wolves
  A necrophage (Lair:1)
  A mottled dragon (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  22 water moccasins
  67 orc warriors
  4 sky beasts
  30 soldier ants
  9 porcupines
  8 small abominations (Abyss:1)
  4 mottled dragons
  A spiny frog skeleton (Spider:1)
  3 human skeletons
  11 swamp drakes
  2 phantoms
  19 spiders
  4 giant goldfish
  5 ice beasts
  2 yellow wasps
  A griffon simulacrum (D:15)
  22 ogres
  The ghost of BugHunter the Ruinous, an average DrCj (D:3)
  8 centaurs
  A boring beetle (Lair:6)
  A boring beetle (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  A vampire mosquito zombie (D:14)
  15 giant slugs
  23 crocodiles
  9 big kobolds
  25 giant frogs
  15 insubstantial wisps
  2 yaktaur skeletons
  9 scorpions
  3 cyclops skeletons
  A wyvern skeleton (D:8)
  An eye of draining (D:15)
  13 killer bees
  20 wights
  9 goliath beetles
  2 electric eels
  6 crimson imps
  4 jellies
  5 starcursed masses (Abyss:1)
  14 hounds
  A quasit (Abyss:1)
  2 gnoll shamans
  9 big fish
  18 iguanas
  25 orc wizards
  42 orc priests
  2 iron imps (Abyss:1)
  An orange rat (Vaults:1)
  32 worker ants
  A big kobold zombie (D:9)
  17 sheep
  Ijyb (D:2)
  Jessica (D:3)
  Terence (D:3)
  A mummy (D:12)
  A gnoll zombie (D:6)
  26 green rats
  17 gnolls
  22 adders
  5 giant mites
  2 orc skeletons
  4 shadow imps
  2 white imps (Abyss:1)
  An inept item mimic (D:3)
  7 worms
  10 ufetubi (Abyss:1)
  A giant eyeball (D:7)
  7 giant geckos
  259 orcs
  26 bats
  24 goblins
  29 hobgoblins
  31 jackals
  44 kobolds
  3 ball pythons
  4 giant cockroaches
  8 giant newts
  A giant spore (D:15)
  3 orc zombies
  9 quokkas
  21 rats
  6 ballistomycetes
  4 butterflies (D:15)
  A fungus (Lair:5)
  2 plants (Lair:8)
2011 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Saint Roka (Swamp:2)
  Arachne (Spider:4)
  Asterion (Spider:2)
  Rupert (D:15)
  Gastronok (Lair:1)
  2 hydras
  2 orc high priests (Orc:4)
  An orb spider (Spider:2)
  An orc knight (Orc:4)
  A blue devil (Orc:4)
  A hellwing (Orc:4)
  A troll (Orc:4)
  A raven (Swamp:5)
  A boulder beetle (Spider:4)
  A bog body (Swamp:2)
  A wyvern (Lair:5)
  A swamp worm (Swamp:2)
  5 orc warriors
  A giant frog (Lair:5)
  A giant slug (D:15)
  An orc priest (Orc:2)
  A green rat (Lair:5)
  An adder (Lair:1)
  4 ufetubi (Orc:4)
  8 orcs
41 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A stone giant (Orc:4)
  2 iron trolls
  A deep troll (Swamp:5)
  A jumping spider (Spider:2)
  A troll (Swamp:5)
  2 redbacks
  A big fish (Swamp:1)
  A gnoll (D:9)
  An orc (Vaults:1)
  A kobold (D:9)
  3 giant spores (D:9)
  A ballistomycete (D:15)
  A briar patch (Swamp:5)
  A butterfly (D:15)
  4 starspawn tentacles (Abyss:1)
  22 starspawn tentacle segments (Abyss:1)
44 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2096 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | owentm, the Gargoyle Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 1/1
   236 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 19/19 MP: 2/2
   381 | D:1      | Acquired Trog's second power
   508 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 23/23 MP: 3/3
   635 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Maces & Flails
  1072 | D:2      | Noticed Ijyb
  1083 | D:2      | Killed Ijyb
  1107 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 13/28 MP: 4/4
  1108 | D:2      | HP: 1/28 [gnoll/flail (6)]
  1725 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  1799 | D:2      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 27/32 MP: 5/5
  2364 | D:3      | Noticed Terence
  2367 | D:3      | Noticed Jessica
  2374 | D:3      | Killed Terence
  2380 | D:3      | Noticed BugHunter's ghost (average DrCj)
  2380 | D:3      | Killed Jessica
  2389 | D:3      | Killed BugHunter's ghost
  2389 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  2389 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 27/38 MP: 6/6
  2797 | D:3      | Acquired Trog's third power
  3034 | D:4      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  3092 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 29/43 MP: 7/7
  3133 | D:4      | Noticed Menkaure
  3157 | D:4      | Killed Menkaure
  3157 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  3157 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  3840 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3877 | D:5      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  3922 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  3931 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 21/49 MP: 8/8
  4113 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  4193 | D:5      | Found Ozooxel's Magic Scroll Boutique.
  4216 | D:5      | Bought a scroll of remove curse for 30 gold pieces
  4216 | D:5      | Bought a scroll of identify for 20 gold pieces
  4216 | D:5      | Bought a scroll of blinking for 75 gold pieces
  4323 | D:5      | Noticed Amon's ghost (average FoFi)
  4344 | D:5      | Killed Amon's ghost
  4449 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4829 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  4885 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 39/55 MP: 9/9
  5531 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
  5585 | D:7      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  6475 | D:8      | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
  6508 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 59/63 MP: 10/10
  6572 | D:8      | Noticed an iron devil
  6572 | D:8      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  6573 | D:8      | Noticed a red devil
  6573 | D:8      | Noticed a red devil
  6574 | D:8      | Noticed an iron devil
  6609 | D:8      | Killed a red devil
  6746 | D:8      | Received a gift from Trog
  7096 | D:8      | Killed a red devil
  7487 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
  7805 | D:8      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  7806 | D:8      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  8058 | D:9      | Received a gift from Trog
  8105 | D:9      | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
  8350 | D:9      | Got a jasper-encrusted pearl dragon armour
  8552 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 52/69 MP: 3/11
  8813 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  8985 | D:9      | Identified the +6 pearl dragon armour of Vanity {rN+ Dex+2} (You took it off an orc priest on level 9 of the Dungeon)
  9188 | D:9      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  9399 | D:9      | Found Twobim's Weapon Emporium.
  9677 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  9727 | D:10     | Noticed Harold
  9739 | D:10     | Killed Harold
  9739 | D:10     | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
  9774 | D:10     | Received a gift from Trog
  9850 | D:10     | Killed an unseen horror
 10045 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 10202 | D:10     | Noticed Urug
 10221 | D:10     | Killed Urug
 10606 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 10619 | Lair:1   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 10727 | Lair:1   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 10795 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 10893 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 71/75 MP: 4/12
 10902 | Lair:1   | Noticed Gastronok
 10910 | Lair:1   | Killed Gastronok
 10910 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 14 in Maces & Flails
 11559 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 11827 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 12055 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Trog
 12056 | Lair:2   | Got a polished glaive {god gift}
 12143 | Lair:2   | Identified the +4,+12 glaive of Interdependent Arising {drain, +Inv rElec rF+ Curse} (Trog gifted it to you on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts)
 13373 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Trog
 13476 | Lair:1   | Identified a +0 rod of destruction (11/11) (You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon)
 13959 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 75/79 MP: 6/19
 14025 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails
 15296 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 15865 | Lair:6   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 15873 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Trog
 16177 | Lair:6   | Identified Cuxog's Papyrus of the Voyage (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 17231 | Lair:7   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 17232 | Lair:7   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 18022 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 18096 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 19124 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 19142 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 19206 | Orc:1    | Noticed Grum
 19226 | Orc:1    | Killed Grum
 19554 | Orc:2    | Found a flagged portal.
 19557 | Orc:2    | Noticed Sonja
 19579 | Orc:2    | Killed Sonja
 19590 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
 19715 | Bailey   | Received a gift from Trog
 20416 | Orc:2    | Paralysed by an orc sorcerer for 6 turns
 20472 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 16 in Maces & Flails
 20758 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 21206 | Orc:3    | Noticed Fannar
 21216 | Orc:3    | Killed Fannar
 21216 | Orc:3    | Gained mutation: Your wings are large and strong. [gargoyle growth]
 21216 | Orc:3    | Reached XP level 14. HP: 71/84 MP: 7/23
 21302 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 21449 | Lair:1   | Gained mutation: Your digestive system is specialised to digest meat. [potion of beneficial mutation]
 22679 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 23075 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 23312 | Orc:4    | Noticed an orc warlord
 23608 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 23752 | Orc:4    | Killed an orc warlord
 24867 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
 25215 | Orc:4    | Found Teratem's Gadget Shop.
 25215 | Orc:4    | Found Qiyrgh's Armour Boutique.
 25218 | Orc:4    | Found Par Buom's General Store.
 25219 | Orc:4    | Found Stia's Antique Armour Shop.
 25221 | Orc:4    | Bought a fine hat for 279 gold pieces
 25221 | Orc:4    | Bought a pair of glowing boots for 139 gold pieces
 25228 | Orc:4    | Identified the cursed -4 hat "Muaruor" {Dex+3 Int+4} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
 25230 | Orc:4    | Bought the +2 hat of the Alchemist {rElec rF+ rC+ MR+} for 618 gold pieces
 25230 | Orc:4    | Bought the +2 pair of boots of the Assassin {Stlth++} for 279 gold pieces
 25332 | Orc:3    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 25381 | Orc:3    | Received a gift from Trog
 25677 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 26095 | D:11     | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 26109 | D:11     | Killed a six-headed hydra
 26293 | D:11     | Found Lamaunut's Armour Shoppe.
 26526 | D:11     | Noticed whataluser's ghost (powerful TrMo)
 27025 | D:12     | Reached skill level 17 in Maces & Flails
 27170 | D:12     | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 27355 | D:12     | Received a gift from Trog
 28010 | D:13     | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 28011 | D:13     | the labyrinth entrance was a mimic.
 28198 | D:13     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 76/90 MP: 8/24
 28339 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 28681 | D:13     | Noticed Psyche
 28689 | D:13     | Killed Psyche
 28725 | D:13     | Received a gift from Trog
 29301 | D:14     | Found Qaros' Food Emporium.
 29782 | D:14     | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 30314 | D:14     | Received a gift from Trog
 30616 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 30616 | D:15     | Noticed Frances
 30618 | D:15     | Killed Frances
 30632 | D:15     | Noticed Nergalle
 30646 | D:15     | Killed Nergalle
 30784 | D:15     | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 30796 | D:15     | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
 30796 | D:15     | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 30796 | D:15     | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
 31007 | D:15     | Reached skill level 18 in Maces & Flails
 31149 | D:15     | Noticed Rupert
 31176 | D:15     | Killed Rupert
 31542 | D:15     | Received a gift from Trog
 31561 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 31692 | D:15     | Reached XP level 16. HP: 97/97 MP: 25/25
 31839 | D:15     | Noticed a sphinx
 31980 | D:15     | Killed a sphinx
 32714 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 32861 | Spider:1 | Noticed Josephine
 32873 | Spider:1 | Killed Josephine
 33310 | Spider:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 33820 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 19 in Maces & Flails
 34233 | Spider:2 | Noticed Asterion
 34378 | Spider:2 | Killed Asterion
 35123 | Spider:3 | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 35340 | Spider:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 36478 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Bows
 36542 | Spider:3 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 98/104 MP: 26/26
 36635 | Spider:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 36938 | Spider:4 | Noticed Arachne
 37329 | Spider:4 | Killed Arachne
 37331 | Spider:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 37528 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Bows
 38128 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest
 38409 | Spider:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 38771 | Spider:5 | Noticed Louise
 38867 | Spider:5 | Killed Louise
 38947 | Spider:5 | Reached skill level 20 in Maces & Flails
 39111 | Spider:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 40838 | Spider:5 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 81/112 MP: 1/27
 40967 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
 42075 | Swamp:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 42525 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Saint Roka
 42546 | Swamp:2  | Killed Saint Roka
 42564 | Swamp:2  | Reached skill level 10 in Bows
 44319 | Swamp:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 44715 | Swamp:3  | Noticed Jorgrun
 45941 | Swamp:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 46231 | Swamp:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp
 46322 | Swamp:5  | Reached skill level 21 in Maces & Flails
 46341 | Swamp:5  | Noticed the 27-headed Lernaean hydra
 46379 | Swamp:5  | Reached XP level 19. HP: 110/119 MP: 27/27
 46396 | Swamp:5  | Received a gift from Trog
 46746 | Swamp:5  | Killed the 26-headed Lernaean hydra
 47588 | Swamp:5  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 48592 | D:15     | Noticed a sphinx
 48608 | D:15     | Noticed Kirke
 48615 | D:15     | Killed a sphinx
 48625 | D:15     | Killed Kirke
 48660 | D:15     | Got a jewelled mottled dragon armour
 48662 | D:15     | Identified the cursed -8 mottled dragon armour "fgsfds" {SInv} (You took it off a vampire on level 15 of the Dungeon)
 48802 | D:15     | Noticed a frost giant
 48817 | D:15     | Killed a frost giant
 48858 | D:15     | Got a pair of encrusted boots
 48859 | D:15     | Identified the +3 pair of boots of the Cuttlefish {rPois Dex-4 Stlth} (You found it on level 15 of the Dungeon)
 48871 | D:15     | Received a gift from Trog
 49910 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of blinking for 127 gold pieces
 49910 | Orc:4    | Bought the +7,+3 flail of Success {crush, +Blink} for 700 gold pieces
 50086 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 50323 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 50537 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 50902 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 51313 | Vaults:1 | Identified a +0 rod of clouds (13/13) (You took it off a deep elf fighter on level 1 of the Vaults)
 52101 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 52101 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 92/126 MP: 28/28
 52732 | Vaults:1 | Paralysed by a great orb of eyes for 4 turns
 52843 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 22 in Maces & Flails
 52957 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 54571 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 55435 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 55952 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Agnes
 55954 | Vaults:2 | Cast into the Abyss (Agnes)
 56330 | Abyss:1  | Noticed a bone dragon
 57739 | Vaults:2 | Escaped the Abyss
 58342 | Slime:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Pits of Slime
 58527 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Trog


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Mace              |    78 |   241 |   404 |    21 |       |       |       ||   744
       Dire flail        |       |       |   140 |    23 |       |    22 |       ||   185
       Great mace        |       |       |       |   776 |  1891 |  1572 |   324 ||  4563
       Quick blade       |       |       |       |     3 |       |       |       ||     3
       Morningstar       |       |       |       |       |   174 |       |       ||   174
       Demon whip        |       |       |       |       |       |    46 |       ||    46
       Flail             |       |       |       |       |       |       |  1357 ||  1357
 Fire: Longbow           |       |       |       |       |       |   311 |   102 ||   413
Invok: Berserk           |     1 |     2 |     5 |     5 |    13 |    10 |    14 ||    50
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |       |     1 |     7 |     3 |     3 ||    14
       Trog's Hand       |       |       |       |       |     4 |     2 |     1 ||     7
       Burn Spellbooks   |       |       |       |       |     2 |     3 |     2 ||     7
 Abil: Fly               |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |     1 ||     2
       Evoke Blink       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     4 ||     4
Evoke: Wand              |       |     1 |     1 |     2 |     8 |     7 |     7 ||    26
  Use: Scroll            |     6 |     6 |     5 |     9 |    24 |    11 |    11 ||    72
       Potion            |       |       |       |     2 |    13 |     6 |     6 ||    27
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |       |       |     7 |    41 |    32 |    16 ||    96
       Distracted        |       |       |       |       |     9 |     2 |     6 ||    17
       Held in net/web   |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
       Paralysed         |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Confused          |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2


I've got an amulet of resist corrosion in my stash - should I grab that and try Slime next? Or try to go deal with Agnes and avoid banishment?

I'm not trying for an extended game - three runes and my first win would be perfect for me. What should I do to make that happen?

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Post Wednesday, 4th June 2014, 16:28

Re: CIP: GrBe - what next?

You can ignore Agnes and use a different stairs to Vaults 2 provided they are not in the same area. Drop that ring of sustenance. I would wear ring of MR by default to avoid paralysis/banishment/mark. Alternatively you can try Depths.
Pick a blowgun and some curare, it is a great way to stop Ironbrand Convokers from recalling allies.

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Post Wednesday, 4th June 2014, 16:43

Re: CIP: GrBe - what next?

The most glaring issue I see is that flail you're using. It's a pretty terrible weapon. Its worth hanging onto for the +blink, but not worth using to hit guys with.

I see in your inventory you have an antimagic demon whip, a +5 great mace of protection, and an unidentified great mace from trog... Identify that last great mace, and use one of those weapons.

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Post Wednesday, 4th June 2014, 16:57

Re: CIP: GrBe - what next?

Thanks to you both! I don't know why I was worrying about sustenance; with carnivore 1 I can eat chunks and berserk plenty. I switched it out for MR.

And for that flail, I've always been a real sucker for randarts, often to my detriment. Going back to my stash my best weapons look like:

+0,+7 anti-magic great mace
+6 +3 anti-magic great mace
+5 great mace of protection
or the +0,+3 anti-magic demon whip

Any thoughts on the pluses/minuses for these? I've also got plenty of enchant weapon scrolls I can use if it'd be worth it to power one up.

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Post Wednesday, 4th June 2014, 17:06

Re: CIP: GrBe - what next?

Prepare to berserk much less than before, I stop doing it before Vaults usually. Berserk can paralyze you and it is not that good late in the game when most monsters have ranged attack and there are lots of them in LoS.
+7 anti-magic great mace is the best weapon among those but make sure you didn't miss great maces with other brands, basically anti-magic and protection are the worst brands vs non-casters.

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Post Wednesday, 4th June 2014, 17:11

Re: CIP: GrBe - what next?

Sandman25 wrote:anti-magic and protection are the worst brands vs non-casters.


The most dangerous opponents in the game are mostly dangerous because they are casters, no? I think antimagic is great.

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Post Wednesday, 4th June 2014, 17:13

Re: CIP: GrBe - what next?

Compared to what you're using now they're all way better, but like sandman said, the +0+7 great mace is the best on the list. You may want to look around to see if there are any more branded great maces for non-mage enemies. Ideally a great mace of crushing/freezing/flaming/electrocution/speed. I doubt there will be any of the last 2 types there, but there's probably one of the first 3.

Against anything that casts spells, use the anti magic great mace.

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Post Wednesday, 4th June 2014, 17:17

Re: CIP: GrBe - what next?

owentm wrote:Any thoughts on the pluses/minuses for these? I've also got plenty of enchant weapon scrolls I can use if it'd be worth it to power one up.

Generally, you want to pick the heaviest weapon with the highest damage enchantment (the second number). The accuracy is not very important, because with high weapon skill and fighting your accuracy is good.

I would pick the +0,+7 antimagic great mace. Your maces skill is already high enough, so I think you should stop training maces.
Read about the skill needed to reach minimum delay here: http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Weapon_speed

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Post Wednesday, 4th June 2014, 17:18

Re: CIP: GrBe - what next?

Magipi wrote:
Sandman25 wrote:anti-magic and protection are the worst brands vs non-casters.


The most dangerous opponents in the game are mostly dangerous because they are casters, no? I think antimagic is great.


Anti-magic does nothing vs non-casters. It is not great, it is literally useless and the worst brand in this case. There are many monsters without spells even late game - Fire/Ice Dragons, Stone Giants, Ettins, Tentacled Monstrosities, Iron Trolls, footaurs etc.

Edit. Here are my weapons from current Be game.

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 a - the +7,+2 broad axe of Tender Mercy (weapon) {god gift, chop, +Fly rF+ rC++ MR+}
 b - a +0,+4 longbow of flame {god gift}
 q - a +3,+5 battleaxe of electrocution
 y - a +0,+5 longbow of velocity
 D - a +4,+5 executioner's axe of freezing {god gift}
 I - a +5,+6 antimagic executioner's axe {god gift}
 Y - a +8 blowgun


Yes, I use all of them.

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Post Wednesday, 4th June 2014, 17:40

Re: CIP: GrBe - what next?

I guess I should change the title...

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328431 owentm the Shatterer (level 21, -4/201 HPs)
             Began as a Gargoyle Berserker on June 3, 2014.
             Was a High Priest of Trog.
             Killed by Lee's Rapid Deconstruction
             ... invoked by a deep troll earth mage
             ... led by an ironheart preserver
              (30 damage)
             ... on Level 3 of the Vaults on June 4, 2014.
             The game lasted 04:36:02 (62816 turns).


It was the stupidest of stupid deaths - I backed myself into a corner, forgot I couldn't dig through stone, and made the mistake of not identifying exactly how many charges my wand of teleport had.

Somehow I'm not as mad at this death as I have been with previous deaths. Maybe that's the feeling of learning.

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