Mines Malingerer
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Tuesday, 3rd June 2014, 04:56
YAVP - NaMo of Chei - Was not expecting to win this!!!
So, while I haven't played this game seriously for a few weeks (really busy, a couple of fairly advanced MiBe/SpAs runs are lying around forgotten since I haven't had the concentration to play them recently), I've been messing around with different/random starts in order to familiarize with different build starts and just have fun splatting on the early D levels. Meanwhile, I've read a fair number of heated arguments about Cheibriados and Nagas around these forums, so I figured, why not give it a try and see what playing a Naga of Chei is like? Well, this is what my second attempt (following an early splat near the temple) looks like:
What was originally going to be just some messing around to learn about Chei ended up giving me one of my best characters yet; only a couple of my MiBe (and nothing else) have made it to Vaults yet. I'm having tons of fun with this character, and I think part of the reason I've made it this far is that Chei is plain forcing me to be more cautious, and rewarding that caution with really cool abilities. I definitely got lucky: a highlight was going down to Orc3 and finding Nessos immediately by the stairs I took, meaning I could punch him to death very quickly before he had time to fire a million arrows at me. I also appreciate that this character opens up a lot more options (and thus raises many more questions) than my usual MiBe runs, although this is obviously a double-edge sword: my lack of familiarity with building characters that can do more than bash things or bash things harder means I've been kind of wishy-washy about my skills and general build. I'm pretty sure to an experienced eye much of this looks terrible...
I'm especially unsure of what to do with magic; I had planned to use Chei's obscene stat bonuses to cast in heavy armour, but I wasn't really sure where to start (it doesn't help that I found little more than weak hex books for a big part of the game). I now have access to a bunch of spells, of which I've taken a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/QlMbZpL.jpg?1 (the "a" spell is Corono)
So I unfortunately haven't done anything significant with magic, and l don't really know whether I should learn something else now, or whether I should be focusing on other skills in the first place; I'm not used to spell choices and all of that
Also, Vaults1 was already pretty scary and I had quite a few close calls in there. Quickly realized that Convokers need to die very quickly (or else teleporting away is most likely the safest option), and Yaktaur/Centaur paks with their upgraded versions are surprisingly dangerous when Chei doesn't neatly place them in melee range with temporal distortion. I'm wondering whether I should just go do Swamp 5 first (the only remotely scary part of Swamp was Bog bodies along with being majorly slowed down by water). Or maybe even Elf? I never set foot in there...
One final thought: That enchanted Longbow used to be Flaming (taken from Nessos, dumped my enchant scrolls on it). Took a chance with a read-id'd Branding scroll, gave me Venom. I don't know much about brands, but that sounds kind of unfortunate?
Anyhow, I'd love to hear thoughts and suggestions
- Code:
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14.1 (tiles) character file.
Sssark the Black Belt (Naga Monk) Turns: 73844, Time: 04:33:33
HP 193/193 AC 33 Str 32 XL: 20 Next: 40%
MP 33/33 EV 4 Int 35 God: Cheibriados [******]
Gold 1907 SH 0 Dex 32 Spells: 4 memorised, 7 levels left
rFire x . . SeeInvis + - Unarmed
rCold + . . Clarity + j - +4 plate armour {MR+}
rNeg . . . Conserve . (no shield)
rPois + rCorr . B - +0 helmet
rElec . rRot . F - -1 cloak {+Inv}
SustAb . . Spirit . b - +0 pair of gloves {Dex+3}
rMut . Warding . m - +4 naga barding
Saprov . . . Stasis . O - amulet "Ske Kiss" {Clar Str+4}
MR ++++. K - ring of Contentment {Ice MR+}
s - ring of wizardry
@: very slow, incredibly resistant to hostile enchantments, stealthy
A: spit poison, constrict 1, see invisible, deformed body, poison resistance,
robust 1, slowness 2, AC +6
a: Spit Poison, Bend Time, Temporal Distortion, Slouch, Step From Time, Renounce
Religion, Evoke Invisibility
}: 1/15 runes: gossamer
You are on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Cheibriados.
Cheibriados is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.
You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 38 of its levels.
You have also visited: Bailey.
You have collected 4160 gold pieces.
You have spent 2253 gold pieces at shops.
Inventory:
Hand weapons
E - a +6,+7 longbow of venom
Missiles
i - 2 bolts
p - 91 arrows
t - 18 arrows of frost
P - 7 arrows of dispersal
Armour
b - a +0 pair of gloves of dexterity (worn)
j - a +4 plate armour of magic resistance (worn)
m - a +4 naga barding (worn)
B - a +0 helmet (worn)
C - a +2 scale mail of fire resistance
F - a -1 cloak of darkness (worn)
Magical devices
e - a wand of lightning (7)
u - a wand of slowing
L - a wand of cold {zapped: 1}
M - a wand of fire (15)
N - a wand of draining {zapped: 1}
U - a wand of fireball {zapped: 1}
Comestibles
a - 9 bread rations
G - 5 meat rations
H - 12 apples
R - 4 pieces of ambrosia
Scrolls
d - 3 scrolls of blinking
q - 3 scrolls of fog
w - a scroll of enchant armour
x - 6 scrolls of remove curse
y - 9 scrolls of teleportation
z - 4 scrolls of fear
I - 11 scrolls of identify
Q - a scroll of recharging
X - a scroll of enchant weapon I
Jewellery
g - an uncursed ring of flight
l - an uncursed amulet of conservation
n - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
o - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
s - a ring of wizardry (left hand)
A - an uncursed ring of sustenance
K - the ring of Contentment (right hand) {Ice MR+}
(You bought it in a shop on level 9 of the Dungeon)
[ring of ice]
It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
O - the amulet "Ske Kiss" (around neck) {Clar Str+4}
(You bought it in a shop on level 9 of the Dungeon)
[amulet of clarity]
It affects your strength (+4).
V - a +5 ring of dexterity
Potions
c - 10 potions of curing
f - 2 potions of magic
h - a potion of flight
k - 2 potions of agility
r - 3 potions of heal wounds
v - 5 potions of might
D - 2 potions of brilliance
J - 3 potions of resistance
S - 3 potions of restore abilities
T - 3 potions of invisibility
Skills:
- Level 10.0 Fighting
- Level 18.0 Bows
+ Level 10.0 Armour
- Level 2.4 Dodging
- Level 12.8 Stealth
- Level 20.0 Unarmed Combat
- Level 8.0 Hexes
- Level 12.1 Invocations
You have 7 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:
Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger
a - Confuse Hex ######.. 1% 3 ####...
b - Enslavement Hex ######.. 7% 4 #####..
c - Cause Fear Hex ######.... 7% 4 #####..
d - Confusing Touch Hex ######.... 1% 1 ##.....
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (15/15) Temple (1/1) D:7 Orc (4/4) D:12
Elf (0/3) Orc:4 Lair (8/8) D:9 Swamp (4/5) Lair:3
Spider (5/5) Lair:6 Slime (0/6) Lair:7 Vaults (1/5) D:14
Depths (0/5) D:15
Altars:
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Zin
Jiyva
Shops:
D:9 = D:15 % Orc:1 ! Orc:4 [=**
Annotations:
Lair:1 exclusion: hydra, Fannar
Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations
You cannot wear boots.
You can spit poison.
You can use your snake-like lower body to constrict enemies.
Your serpentine skin is tough (AC +6).
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.
Your system is resistant to poisons.
You cover ground very slowly.
You are robust (+10% HP).
Message History
Level annotation: exclusion: hydra, Fannar
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
You climb downwards.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
Items here: !! " %%%%%%%%%%% (((( ) /////// :::::::: ==== ???? [[[ || }}}
Drop what? (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
As you read the scroll labeled VURPHA SICUPH, it crumbles to dust.
It is a scroll of brand weapon.
Brand which weapon? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Your +6,+7 longbow of venom drips with poison.
You can't go up here!
Okay, then.
Okay, then.
Cast which spell? (? or * to list)
Okay, then.
Okay, then.
Save game and exit?
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#....!...#........#..
#..<@....##..........
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There are no monsters in sight!
Notes
Turn | Place | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | Sssark, the Naga Monk, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 21/21 MP: 1/1
290 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 6/28 MP: 2/2
1165 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/34 MP: 3/3
1345 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
1690 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 21/42 MP: 4/4
2122 | D:2 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
2122 | D:2 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
2122 | D:2 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
2123 | D:2 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
2123 | D:2 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
2555 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat
2839 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 43/49 MP: 5/5
3009 | D:3 | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
3009 | D:3 | Noticed a centaur
3452 | D:4 | Noticed Edmund
3452 | D:4 | Noticed Natasha
3452 | D:4 | Noticed Fwomp's ghost (average OpTm)
3479 | D:3 | Killed Natasha
3639 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
3744 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Unarmed Combat
3966 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 19/56 MP: 6/6
4306 | D:4 | Noticed Duvessa
4306 | D:4 | Noticed Dowan
4318 | D:4 | Killed Duvessa
4326 | D:4 | Killed Dowan
4517 | D:4 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
4520 | D:4 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
4523 | D:4 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
4561 | D:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Unarmed Combat
4776 | D:4 | Killed Edmund
4776 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 38/62 MP: 7/7
4951 | D:4 | Killed Fwomp's ghost
4951 | D:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Unarmed Combat
5098 | D:3 | Killed a centaur
5486 | D:5 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
5495 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 63/69 MP: 8/8
5497 | D:5 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
5631 | D:5 | Noticed an ogre
5655 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat
5664 | D:5 | Killed an ogre
5881 | D:5 | Noticed a water moccasin
5889 | D:5 | Killed a water moccasin
5968 | D:5 | Noticed Prince Ribbit
6524 | D:5 | Killed Prince Ribbit
6524 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Unarmed Combat
6813 | D:6 | Noticed Ijyb
6832 | D:6 | Killed Ijyb
6900 | D:6 | Noticed Grinder
6934 | D:6 | Killed Grinder
6934 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 18/75 MP: 9/9
8228 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
9345 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
9418 | D:7 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 32/84 MP: 10/10
10199 | D:7 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
10209 | D:7 | Killed Crazy Yiuf
10392 | D:8 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
10399 | D:8 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
10407 | D:8 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
11028 | D:8 | Noticed Psyche
11590 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
11598 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Cheibriados the Contemplative
11603 | Temple | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse
11620 | Temple | Learned a level 4 spell: Enslavement
11622 | Temple | Identified a +0 rod of ignition (14/14) (You found it on level 2 of the Dungeon)
12458 | D:8 | Killed Psyche
12624 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Lair.
12865 | D:9 | Acquired Cheibriados' first power
12872 | D:9 | Found Duk Iret's Jewellery Shop.
12896 | D:9 | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
13606 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
13630 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
13639 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 31/90 MP: 20/20
13646 | D:9 | Acquired Cheibriados' second power
14669 | Lair:1 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
15380 | Lair:1 | Noticed Fannar
15590 | Lair:1 | Acquired Cheibriados' third power
15905 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
16267 | Lair:2 | Noticed a six-headed hydra
16867 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
17758 | Lair:2 | Killed a six-headed hydra
18341 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 89/97 MP: 25/25
18341 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations
21006 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 12 in Invocations
21135 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Bows
21157 | Lair:4 | HP: 3/97 [elephant (13)]
21758 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Bows
22349 | Lair:3 | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
22459 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 13 in Unarmed Combat
22459 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 103/103 MP: 28/28
22984 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Cause Fear
23057 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Hexes
23306 | Lair:4 | Noticed a four-headed hydra
23316 | Lair:4 | Killed a four-headed hydra
23526 | Lair:4 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
23704 | Lair:4 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 111/111 MP: 29/29
24019 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes
24750 | Lair:4 | the hole to the Spider Nest was a mimic.
26213 | Lair:5 | Identified a scroll of acquirement
26287 | Lair:6 | Noticed Harold
26295 | Lair:6 | Killed Harold
27193 | Lair:6 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
27384 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 14 in Unarmed Combat
29088 | Lair:7 | Learned a level 1 spell: Confusing Touch
29323 | Lair:7 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
29323 | Lair:7 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
29351 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 15 in Unarmed Combat
31527 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
31604 | D:10 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 115/117 MP: 30/30
31688 | D:10 | Found a flagged portal.
31727 | Bailey | Entered a bailey
32121 | D:10 | Reached skill level 16 in Unarmed Combat
32241 | D:10 | Noticed Gash's ghost (experienced TrMo)
32250 | D:10 | Noticed Joseph
32253 | D:10 | Killed Gash's ghost
32265 | D:10 | Killed Joseph
34108 | D:11 | Gained mutation: You are robust (+10% HP). [potion of beneficial mutation]
34671 | D:11 | Reached skill level 17 in Unarmed Combat
35580 | D:12 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
35679 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
35679 | Orc:1 | Found Chism's Distillery.
35898 | Orc:1 | Noticed Blork the orc
35906 | Orc:1 | Killed Blork the orc
36174 | Orc:1 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
36713 | Orc:2 | Noticed Urug
36722 | Orc:2 | Killed Urug
37327 | Orc:3 | Noticed Nessos
37332 | Orc:3 | Killed Nessos
37838 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
37844 | Orc:4 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
38245 | D:13 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
38869 | D:13 | Reached skill level 18 in Unarmed Combat
41021 | D:14 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 99/136 MP: 31/31
41452 | D:14 | Found a gate to the Vaults.
42242 | D:14 | Reached skill level 19 in Unarmed Combat
42621 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
42665 | D:15 | Found a staircase to the Depths.
42822 | D:15 | Noticed Frances
42827 | D:15 | Killed Frances
43385 | D:15 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
43458 | D:15 | Found Nofiomer's Food Shoppe.
45202 | D:15 | Reached skill level 20 in Unarmed Combat
46216 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
46249 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
47720 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 116/160 MP: 31/31
48967 | Lair:8 | Noticed Nergalle
48977 | Lair:8 | Killed Nergalle
50476 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
51563 | Orc:4 | Found Giomig's General Store.
51563 | Orc:4 | Found Ferug's Jewellery Shoppe.
51566 | Orc:4 | Found Okoguck's Armour Emporium.
51568 | Orc:4 | Found Plae's Assorted Antiques.
51579 | Orc:4 | Bought a +0 pair of gloves of dexterity for 172 gold pieces
51588 | Orc:4 | Bought an uncursed ring of flight for 245 gold pieces
51588 | Orc:4 | Bought an uncursed ring of protection from fire for 350 gold pieces
51592 | Orc:4 | Bought a runed iron wand for 104 gold pieces
51592 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 195 gold pieces
51604 | Orc:4 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 127 gold pieces
51855 | Orc:1 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 39 gold pieces
51958 | D:9 | Bought the ring of Contentment {Ice MR+} for 526 gold pieces
51958 | D:9 | Bought the amulet "Ske Kiss" {Clar Str+4} for 495 gold pieces
52199 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
52985 | Spider:1 | Noticed Sonja
52991 | Spider:1 | Killed Sonja
55754 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Bows
57196 | Spider:4 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 133/176 MP: 0/32
57563 | Spider:4 | Noticed Nikola
57567 | Spider:4 | Noticed Snorg
58157 | Spider:4 | Killed Nikola
58166 | Spider:4 | Killed Snorg
58858 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
60524 | Swamp:2 | Noticed Aizul
60535 | Swamp:2 | Killed Aizul
63549 | Swamp:3 | Got a distressingly furry ring mail
63550 | Swamp:3 | Identified the +5 ring mail of the Untouchables {Dex+4 Acc+5} (You found it on level 3 of the Swamp)
64284 | Swamp:4 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 163/184 MP: 33/33
64483 | Swamp:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Bows
65968 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest
68789 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
68884 | Spider:5 | Noticed Kirke
68896 | Spider:5 | Killed Kirke
69397 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
70864 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 186/193 MP: 33/33
71778 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed | 132 | 273 | 437 | 1190 | 1791 | 1873 | 603 || 6299
Fire: Bow | | | | 11 | 106 | 3 | || 120
Longbow | | | | | 1 | 111 | 156 || 268
Cast: Confuse | | | | | 5 | | || 5
Confusing Touch | | | | | 3 | 2 | || 5
Enslavement | | | | | 2 | | || 2
Invok: Bend Time | | | | 7 | 2 | 1 | || 10
Slouch | | | | 6 | 7 | 14 | 11 || 38
Temporal Distorti | | | | | 4 | 20 | 4 || 28
Step From Time | | | | | | 1 | || 1
Abil: Spit Poison | 2 | 16 | 20 | 12 | | 1 | || 51
Evoke: Wand | | | 2 | 1 | 6 | 6 | || 15
Use: Potion | | 2 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 7 | 1 || 16
Scroll | | | 15 | 10 | 11 | 25 | 10 || 71
Stab: Invisible | | | | 2 | | | || 2
Sleeping | | | | 8 | 2 | 1 | 1 || 12
Confused | | | | | 4 | 1 | || 5
Distracted | | | | | 1 | 2 | 1 || 4
Held in net/web | | | | | | 1 | || 1
What was originally going to be just some messing around to learn about Chei ended up giving me one of my best characters yet; only a couple of my MiBe (and nothing else) have made it to Vaults yet. I'm having tons of fun with this character, and I think part of the reason I've made it this far is that Chei is plain forcing me to be more cautious, and rewarding that caution with really cool abilities. I definitely got lucky: a highlight was going down to Orc3 and finding Nessos immediately by the stairs I took, meaning I could punch him to death very quickly before he had time to fire a million arrows at me. I also appreciate that this character opens up a lot more options (and thus raises many more questions) than my usual MiBe runs, although this is obviously a double-edge sword: my lack of familiarity with building characters that can do more than bash things or bash things harder means I've been kind of wishy-washy about my skills and general build. I'm pretty sure to an experienced eye much of this looks terrible...
I'm especially unsure of what to do with magic; I had planned to use Chei's obscene stat bonuses to cast in heavy armour, but I wasn't really sure where to start (it doesn't help that I found little more than weak hex books for a big part of the game). I now have access to a bunch of spells, of which I've taken a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/QlMbZpL.jpg?1 (the "a" spell is Corono)
So I unfortunately haven't done anything significant with magic, and l don't really know whether I should learn something else now, or whether I should be focusing on other skills in the first place; I'm not used to spell choices and all of that
Also, Vaults1 was already pretty scary and I had quite a few close calls in there. Quickly realized that Convokers need to die very quickly (or else teleporting away is most likely the safest option), and Yaktaur/Centaur paks with their upgraded versions are surprisingly dangerous when Chei doesn't neatly place them in melee range with temporal distortion. I'm wondering whether I should just go do Swamp 5 first (the only remotely scary part of Swamp was Bog bodies along with being majorly slowed down by water). Or maybe even Elf? I never set foot in there...
One final thought: That enchanted Longbow used to be Flaming (taken from Nessos, dumped my enchant scrolls on it). Took a chance with a read-id'd Branding scroll, gave me Venom. I don't know much about brands, but that sounds kind of unfortunate?
Anyhow, I'd love to hear thoughts and suggestions
Last edited by TheSchachter on Friday, 6th June 2014, 06:19, edited 1 time in total.
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