Was This Avoidable?

[snow]

I'm a level 3 spriggan enchanter and I'm at full health exploring level 2 of the dungeon. Then a centaur kills me in a single hit as soon as it sees me.



How would I plan for such a situation in the future? Also why are there centaurs on level 2?

[eith]

doesnt really look like there was much you could do there, just really unlucky. I do wonder why it says you were helpless and unable to dodge the arrow? Centaurs have always been possible on d:2, nothing wrong with it.

Normally youd expect a centaur to not even wake up most likely for a SpEn, so the fact that it woke, shot you and the arrow hit and did good damage is just a nasty series of unlucky episodes

[ghend]

Ouch. Doesn't look like you could've done anything, since it was instadeath. Centaurs on D2 are possible, I've had it happen to me. I then proceeded to bash its face in with a potion of might.

[vintermann]

I, too, wonder about the helpless message. Can monsters get "stab"-type attacks on you as well, now, if they can act before you see them? If so, this shows why it's a bad idea from a gameplay perspective.

[sigfried von murdock]

It is terribly annoying, unless they are 1-2 tiles away I tend to dodge around corners or use tele/blink because they can hose you down with some serious firepower.


On the flip side of a centaur, if you are too slow and you turn a corner into an ogre, that can be instant death. Heavily armored dwarves at low levels get turned into iron maidens if they are not careful.

[Regnix]

Also annoying and unavoidable... !

[FlyingPants]

A lot of that is just RNG, if not enough enemies spawn to level you well, and if the levels are spawned quite small, then often you will simply die to a hard monster.

XL 11 on D14? Seems like you are descending much too fast, at least i tend to do the other branches before. Wands unidentified too. No buffs. Sometimes you still die, but that's the RNG.

[Regnix]

I was pushing deeper in search of Poison Resistance (my Staff gave me see Invisible). The statue made me turn back and take on the Lair without poison resistance though. The character is still alive (level 15), I've now done Lair, Orc, Hive and Eleven Halls (except for bottom floor).. I'm wondering how I will tackle the statue of Roxanne though.. suggestions appreciated! There is no trap door on DL 13 so I have to use those stairs again.. My spells are mostly Air magic..

[mikee]

I can't really tell what's going on in tiles, but it looks to me like the OP was eating or swapping eq or something. If that was the case, the solution is simple - don't do stuff like that near dangerous spaces.

[fnwc]

It seems like monsters that create travel exclusions shouldn't be generated over stairs.

[KoboldLord]

I'm wondering how I will tackle the statue of Roxanne though.. suggestions appreciated! There is no trap door on DL 13 so I have to use those stairs again.. My spells are mostly Air magic..

You might try an escape hatch on the level above. The hatch destination usually isn't grouped together even when the stairs are, although it can have its own problems. This isn't entirely safe, of course; I've ended up surrounded by demons in the Lair 8 Hell Vault because I used a hatch on Lair 7… Twice, in two separate games.

Roxanne herself isn't too dreadful if you're willing to burn some consumables. If you can't kill her in one go with a speed potion and as many anti-ranged defensive buffs as possible up, use a fog scroll to cover your retreat. Try to stay as far away from her as possible, and prioritize getting back to long-range after a hostile blink over getting a couple extra hits in. Her attacks are damaging but mostly short-range. You may have to recover your mana bar a time or two, but she'll run out of hp eventually. Vehumet-gifted Mystic Blast is good enough to do the job.

[Moose]

Is it me, or has Roxanne recently been changed? The last two times I've met the magical statue, it has teleported me right next to it. Would make it very hard to avoid under any circumstance!

[Tiber]

Nope. Roxanne just has a spell to blink others to her. I'm pretty sure MR protects against it though.

[XuaXua]

Three words if you're ready to stay on the level and fight it out: SCROLL OF BLINK.

[Regnix]

Mystic Blast did the trick! Thanks