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Monday, 5th May 2014, 12:11
Midgame angst (DsBe)
More than once recently I've reached a point in the midgame, before tackling any of the rune branches, where I am concerned my character is not strong but there seems little option but to go on into more difficult areas. In my current game I've finished D up to 15, Lair and Orc. The usual next steps are the Lair rune branches, in this case Snake and Shoals. I feel like I might be OK in Snake 1 to 4 but Snake 5, and any of Shoals, seem like they will be tough - as does Depths. I've been in this position before with other (melee-focused) characters but I don't know if the problem lies with the strategic development of my character (though since it's a Be there's not that much to go wrong in terms of skills) or something else.
Does anyone have any advice here - either in terms of character development so far, or how to proceed - aside from the obvious "proceed with caution" (or with as much caution as a Troggite ever uses)?
Does anyone have any advice here - either in terms of character development so far, or how to proceed - aside from the obvious "proceed with caution" (or with as much caution as a Troggite ever uses)?
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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-413-gc6111ba (webtiles) character file.
confidenceinterval the Fencer (DsBe) Turns: 35484, Time: 02:25:16
HP 122/122 AC 26 Str 20 XL: 15 Next: 98%
MP 15/15 EV 7 Int 8 God: Trog [******]
Gold 2037 SH 0 Dex 17 Spells: 0 memorised, 14 levels left
rFire + . . SeeInvis . s - +1,+3 great sword (elec)
rCold . . . Clarity + a - +4 chain mail {rF+}
rNeg + . . Conserve . (no shield)
rPois + rCorr . V - +1 helmet
rElec . rRot . n - +0 cloak
SustAb . . Spirit . R - +2 pair of gloves
rMut . Warding + (boots unavailable)
Saprov . . . Stasis . L - amulet of warding
MR ++... K - ring of protection from magic
r - ring of poison resistance
@: quick, very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: talons 3, molten scales 2, clarity, powered by death 2
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion
You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.
You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 27 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Ossuary, Ice Cave and Volcano.
You have collected 2578 gold pieces.
You have spent 541 gold pieces at shops.
Inventory:
Hand weapons
b - a +0,+7 anti-magic claymore
p - a +1,+4 long sword of flaming
s - a +1,+3 great sword of electrocution (weapon)
Missiles
X - 10 javelins (quivered)
Armour
a - a +4 chain mail of fire resistance (worn)
n - a +0 cloak (worn)
R - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
V - a +1 helmet (worn)
Magical devices
c - a wand of polymorph {zapped: 1}
w - a wand of fireball (2)
A - a wand of draining (3)
B - a wand of fire
Comestibles
Y - 4 meat rations
Scrolls
f - 2 scrolls of vulnerability
j - 2 scrolls of fog
m - 3 scrolls of fear
O - 3 scrolls of recharging
Q - a scroll of remove curse
U - 6 scrolls of teleportation
Jewellery
e - an uncursed ring of positive energy
g - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
l - an uncursed ring of ice
r - a ring of poison resistance (left hand)
C - an uncursed ring of fire
D - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
K - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
L - an amulet of warding (around neck)
P - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation
Potions
h - 3 potions of restore abilities
t - 5 potions of brilliance
z - 11 potions of curing
E - 2 potions of haste
F - 2 potions of invisibility
H - a potion of flight
T - a potion of magic
Z - 3 potions of resistance
Miscellaneous
I - a fan of gales
M - an ornate deck of escape {drawn: 2}
Rods
k - a +2 rod of clouds (12/12)
(You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
Skills:
* Level 12.3 Fighting
- Level 20.0 Long Blades
- Level 11.5 Armour
- Level 1.7 Dodging
Level 1.1 Shields
You have 14 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (15/15) Temple (0/1) D:4 Orc (4/4) D:10
Elf (0/3) Orc:4 Lair (8/8) D:11 Shoals (0/5) Lair:6
Snake (0/5) Lair:6 Slime (0/6) Lair:7 Vaults (0/5) D:14
Depths (0/5) D:15
Altars:
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Xom
Yredelemnul
The Shining One
Beogh
Shops:
D:5 (=* D:10 % D:12 : D:14 * D:15 : Orc:2 ( Orc:4 *=*[(
Annotations:
D:5 crystal falchion 222 gold
D:12 exclusion: oklob plant
D:15 !nessos, Nessos
Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations
You have claws for feet.
You are mostly covered in molten scales (AC +3, EV -1).
You can steal the life force of defeated enemies.
You possess an exceptional clarity of mind.
Message History
You draw a card... It is Velocity. You feel quick.
Evoke which item? (* to show all) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You draw a card... It is Warpwright.
This is an ornate deck of escape {drawn: 2}.
You found a teleport trap!
You found a net trap!
Really walk into that net trap?
Okay, then.
You enter the shallow water.
Moving in this stuff is going to be slow.
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
Wield which item (- for none, * to show all)? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You hear the crackle of electricity.
s - a +1,+3 great sword of electrocution (weapon)
Saving game... please wait.
Welcome back, confidenceinterval the Demonspawn Berserker.
Trog says: Kill them all!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Char dumped successfully.
Char dumped successfully.
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There are no monsters in sight!
Vanquished Creatures
Rupert (Lair:6)
An orc warlord (Orc:4)
A stone giant (Orc:4)
2 vault guards (D:14)
A fire dragon (D:15)
An ettin (Orc:4)
A minotaur (Lab)
The ghost of mk83 the Brawler, a powerful TrMo of Cheibriados (Lair:2)
Fannar (Lair:7)
7 hydras
Erica (Orc:2)
An ogre mage (D:15)
A centaur warrior (D:14)
12 death yaks
3 orc high priests (Orc:4)
Urug (D:11)
3 catoblepae
2 ice devils (IceCv)
3 unseen horrors
3 hill giants
3 ice statues (IceCv)
3 wizards
Pikel (D:5)
4 orc knights
3 necromancers
Joseph (D:11)
A deep elf conjurer (D:15)
2 manticores
5 cyclopes
2 griffons (Lair:8)
8 orc sorcerers
Maurice (D:11)
4 black mambas
A feature mimic (D:15)
9 spiny frogs
A kobold demonologist (D:12)
3 item mimics
15 komodo dragons
A hellwing (Orc:4)
2 centaur zombies
5 fire drakes
An efreet (D:13)
7 blue devils (IceCv)
5 trolls
2 tengu conjurers
A centaur skeleton (D:15)
4 slime creatures (D:15)
6 two-headed ogres
33 blink frogs
7 ravens
A boulder beetle (Lair:8)
A vampire (D:15)
4 brown oozes (Lair:7)
5 basilisks
A fire elemental (D:12)
6 ugly things (D:13)
An elf zombie (D:12)
21 humans
A trapdoor spider (D:15)
15 yaks
A deep elf mage (D:14)
A hill giant zombie (D:14)
A ynoxinul (Orc:4)
10 sharks
2 wraiths
An elephant slug (Lair:8)
A hill giant skeleton (D:12)
4 hungry ghosts
Grum (D:8)
6 wyverns
15 wolves
2 wargs
8 hippogriffs
2 mottled dragons
3 nagas (Lair:6)
16 water moccasins
40 orc warriors
3 sky beasts
A tengu skeleton (D:14)
13 porcupines
A slave (D:4)
A boring beetle (Lair:8)
5 ice beasts
2 phantoms
17 centaurs
11 crocodiles
Sigmund (D:7)
6 lava worms (D:12)
5 big kobolds (D:12)
22 giant frogs
15 giant slugs
A gnoll sergeant (D:13)
15 ogres
A brain worm (D:12)
4 water moccasin zombies (Ossuary)
3 scorpions
2 cyclops skeletons
2 hippogriff zombies
3 wights (D:7)
13 killer bees
An electric eel (D:15)
A troll skeleton (D:12)
5 lava snakes (D:12)
4 crimson imps
Dowan (D:5)
3 goliath beetles
5 hounds
A quasit (D:6)
2 draconian simulacra (IceCv)
43 orc priests
A spriggan simulacrum (IceCv)
12 big fish
37 orc wizards
2 human skeletons (D:8)
3 troll simulacra (IceCv)
10 worker ants
14 iguanas
An orange rat (D:11)
2 centaur simulacra (IceCv)
A mottled dragon zombie (D:11)
A big kobold zombie (Ossuary)
27 sheep
A mottled dragon skeleton (D:15)
3 mummies
A worker ant zombie (D:11)
An ogre simulacrum (IceCv)
23 adders
5 gnolls (D:13)
23 green rats
A naga simulacrum (IceCv)
3 shadow imps
2 giant mites
An inept feature mimic (D:4)
13 white imps
5 worms
4 adder zombies
3 giant eyeballs
8 giant geckos
209 orcs
A ball python (D:3)
10 giant cockroaches
2 gnoll zombies (Ossuary)
15 hobgoblins
19 jackals
30 kobolds
15 quokkas
19 bats
8 giant newts
5 giant spores
24 goblins
A goblin skeleton (D:5)
A goblin zombie (D:8)
6 hobgoblin zombies (Ossuary)
A jackal skeleton (D:7)
5 kobold zombies (Ossuary)
6 orc zombies (Ossuary)
A quokka skeleton (D:7)
25 rats
21 ballistomycetes
1203 creatures vanquished.
Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
The ghost of zhaba the Martial Artist, a powerful DrTm of Makhleb (Lair:1)
A tengu conjurer (D:14)
A slime creature (D:15)
2 blink frogs (Lair:1)
3 sheep (Lair:6)
A gnoll (D:6)
9 creatures vanquished.
Vanquished Creatures (others)
A shark (D:15)
A porcupine (Lair:6)
Duvessa (D:5)
A crimson imp (D:8)
A hound (D:14)
An iguana (D:11)
A green rat (D:11)
An orc (D:9)
A hobgoblin (Orc:2)
4 jackals (D:4)
A giant spore (D:14)
20 fungi
A plant (Lair:8)
35 creatures vanquished.
Grand Total: 1247 creatures vanquished
Notes
Turn | Place | Note
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0 | D:1 | confidenceinterval, the Demonspawn Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 1/1
402 | D:1 | Gained mutation: You can steal the life force of nearby defeated enemies. [demonic ancestry]
402 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/24 MP: 2/2
720 | D:1 | Acquired Trog's second power
912 | D:1 | Gained mutation: You have sharp toenails. [demonic ancestry]
912 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 21/29 MP: 3/3
1183 | D:1 | Reached skill level 4 in Long Blades
1501 | D:2 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
1533 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 31/35 MP: 4/4
1868 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades
2208 | D:3 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
2674 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 41/41 MP: 5/5
2863 | D:4 | Acquired Trog's third power
2902 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre
2921 | D:4 | Killed an ogre
2975 | D:4 | Reached skill level 6 in Long Blades
3143 | D:4 | Gained mutation: You have razor-sharp toenails. [demonic ancestry]
3143 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 47/47 MP: 6/6
3453 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
3492 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
3527 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel
3605 | D:5 | Killed Pikel
3605 | D:5 | Reached skill level 8 in Long Blades
3605 | D:5 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in molten scales (AC +1). [demonic ancestry]
3605 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 52/52 MP: 7/7
3647 | D:5 | Found Baiman's Jewellery Shoppe.
3737 | D:5 | Found Utics' Assorted Antiques.
3749 | D:5 | Noticed Dowan
3786 | D:5 | Killed Dowan
3824 | D:5 | Found Asackigi's Antique Weapon Boutique.
3921 | D:5 | Noticed Duvessa
3960 | D:5 | Killed Duvessa
4145 | D:5 | Found a sand-covered staircase.
4155 | Ossuary | Entered an ossuary
4417 | Ossuary | Reached skill level 9 in Long Blades
4417 | Ossuary | Gained mutation: You can steal the life force of defeated enemies. [demonic ancestry]
4417 | Ossuary | Reached XP level 8. HP: 37/58 MP: 8/8
5231 | D:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Long Blades
5751 | D:6 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
5825 | D:7 | Noticed Sigmund
5863 | D:7 | Killed Sigmund
6047 | D:7 | Reached skill level 11 in Long Blades
6140 | D:7 | Gained mutation: You are mostly covered in molten scales (AC +3, EV -1). [demonic ancestry]
6140 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 61/63 MP: 9/9
6156 | D:7 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
6338 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
6669 | D:5 | Bought an obsidian-encrusted chain mail for 304 gold pieces
6687 | D:5 | Identified the +5 chain mail of the Soldier {Str-2 Int-3} (You bought it in a shop on level 5 of the Dungeon)
7265 | D:8 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
7276 | D:8 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
7425 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
7521 | D:8 | Noticed Grum
7538 | D:8 | Killed Grum
7871 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 54/76 MP: 10/10
8831 | D:9 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
9261 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
9358 | D:10 | Received a gift from Trog
9979 | D:10 | Noticed a hill giant
9987 | D:10 | Killed a hill giant
10105 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
10232 | D:10 | Found Bifegh's Food Boutique.
10364 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Lair.
10401 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
10530 | D:11 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
10705 | D:11 | Identified a scroll of acquirement
10748 | D:11 | You fall through a shaft for 3 floors!
10840 | D:14 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 70/81 MP: 11/11
11260 | D:14 | Noticed a centaur warrior
11269 | D:14 | Killed a centaur warrior
11275 | D:14 | Noticed a hill giant
11280 | D:14 | Killed a hill giant
11689 | D:11 | Noticed Maurice
11728 | D:11 | Killed Maurice
11728 | D:11 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
11757 | D:11 | Noticed Joseph
11779 | D:11 | Killed Joseph
12220 | D:11 | Noticed Urug
12233 | D:11 | Killed Urug
12527 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
12614 | Lair:1 | Noticed zhaba's ghost (powerful DrTm)
12643 | Lair:1 | HP: 2/87 [zhaba's ghost/blast of negative energy (4)]
12646 | Lair:1 | Killed zhaba's ghost
12800 | D:11 | Noticed a cyclops
12892 | D:11 | Killed a cyclops
13182 | Lair:1 | Found a dark tunnel.
13200 | Volcano | Entered a volcano
13284 | Volcano | Received a gift from Trog
13813 | Lair:2 | Gained mutation: You have claws for feet. [demonic ancestry]
13813 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 97/97 MP: 12/12
13984 | Lair:2 | Noticed mk83's ghost (powerful TrMo)
14416 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 12 in Long Blades
14474 | Lair:3 | Received a gift from Trog
15740 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 13 in Long Blades
15818 | Lair:4 | Received a gift from Trog
15821 | Lair:4 | Got a crystal great sword {god gift}
15990 | Lair:4 | Identified the +2,+3 great sword of Newt's Bane {drain, rElec} (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)
16095 | Lair:5 | Identified a -2 rod of inaccuracy (10/10) (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
16110 | Lair:5 | Noticed a six-headed hydra
16128 | Lair:5 | Killed a four-headed hydra
17115 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 14 in Long Blades
17394 | Lair:6 | Received a gift from Trog
17557 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 63/103 MP: 13/13
17703 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
17729 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
17814 | Lair:6 | Noticed Rupert
17829 | Lair:6 | Killed Rupert
18526 | Lair:7 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
18584 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 15 in Long Blades
18612 | Lair:7 | Received a gift from Trog
18752 | Lair:7 | Noticed Fannar
18785 | Lair:7 | Killed Fannar
19491 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 16 in Long Blades
19646 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
20108 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Trog
20187 | Lair:8 | Found a frozen archway.
20215 | IceCv | Entered an ice cave
20283 | IceCv | Reached XP level 14. HP: 96/109 MP: 14/14
20608 | IceCv | Reached skill level 17 in Long Blades
20706 | IceCv | Identified a +2 rod of clouds (12/12) (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
21717 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Trog
21804 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 18 in Long Blades
22277 | Lair:2 | Killed mk83's ghost
24200 | Lair:2 | Received a gift from Trog
24853 | D:12 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
24874 | D:12 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
25012 | D:12 | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
25023 | D:12 | Killed a two-headed hydra
25109 | D:12 | Received a gift from Trog
25149 | D:12 | Found Kaved's Book Boutique.
25487 | D:13 | Noticed a hill giant
26477 | D:13 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 61/115 MP: 15/15
26486 | D:13 | Reached skill level 19 in Long Blades
26762 | D:14 | Noticed a four-headed hydra
26764 | D:14 | Noticed a catoblepas
26770 | D:14 | Killed a hydra
26824 | D:14 | Killed a catoblepas
26998 | D:14 | Noticed a vault guard
27002 | D:14 | Noticed a necromancer
27002 | D:14 | Noticed a necromancer
27021 | D:14 | Noticed a wizard
27032 | D:14 | Killed a vault guard
27051 | D:14 | Noticed a vault guard
27052 | D:14 | Killed a necromancer
27077 | D:14 | Killed a vault guard
27092 | D:14 | Killed a wizard
27141 | D:14 | Received a gift from Trog
27217 | D:14 | Killed a necromancer
27218 | D:14 | Found a gate to the Vaults.
27333 | D:14 | Found Cliasah's General Store.
27505 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
28407 | D:15 | Noticed Nessos
28539 | D:15 | Found Joheb's Book Boutique.
28712 | D:15 | Found a staircase to the Depths.
28966 | D:15 | Reached skill level 20 in Long Blades
29109 | D:15 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
29442 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
29443 | Orc:1 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
29447 | Orc:1 | Received a gift from Trog
29577 | Orc:2 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
29980 | Orc:3 | Received a gift from Trog
30046 | Orc:3 | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-288-gf1bfef0 to 0.15-a0-306-g5a3139e
30323 | Orc:2 | Noticed Erica
30333 | Orc:2 | Killed Erica
30372 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
30372 | Orc:4 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
30416 | Orc:4 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
30418 | Orc:4 | Found a labyrinth entrance.
30471 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth
30854 | Lab | Gained mutation: You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. [potion of beneficial mutation]
30861 | Lab | Received a gift from Trog
31041 | Orc:4 | Found Cupah's General Store.
31371 | Orc:2 | Received a gift from Trog
31672 | Orc:2 | Found Gaisad's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
32078 | Orc:4 | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-306-g5a3139e to 0.15-a0-411-g153a95e
32805 | Orc:4 | Paralysed by an orc sorcerer for 2 turns
33047 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog
33669 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog
34697 | Orc:4 | Found Gaaraa's General Store.
34698 | Orc:4 | Found Umpinauj's Jewellery Shop.
34707 | Orc:4 | Found Dapatent's Antique Armour Boutique.
34707 | Orc:4 | Found Menaesm's Antique Weapon Boutique.
34909 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog
35173 | Orc:4 | Bought a polished chain mail for 237 gold pieces
35191 | Orc:4 | Identified the cursed +0 chain mail "Jesm" {MR+} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
35484 | Lair:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-411-g153a95e to 0.15-a0-413-gc6111ba
Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
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Melee: Falchion | 165 | 195 | 590 | 2 | || 952
Long sword | | | | 712 | 1411 || 2123
Scimitar | | | | 349 | || 349
Great sword | | | | 59 | 371 || 430
Claymore | | | | | 470 || 470
Throw: Tomahawk | 7 | 30 | 17 | 5 | || 59
Stone | | | 1 | | || 1
Javelin | | | | 6 | 5 || 11
Invok: Berserk | 1 | 1 | 4 | 12 | 7 || 25
Brothers in Arms | | | 1 | 2 | 1 || 4
Burn Spellbooks | | | 2 | 3 | 2 || 7
Evoke: Wand | | 1 | 1 | 13 | 7 || 22
Deck | | | | 2 | 14 || 16
Rod | | | | 2 | || 2
Use: Scroll | | 17 | 4 | 19 | 18 || 58
Potion | | | | 5 | 4 || 9
Stab: Distracted | | | | | 1 || 1
