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Joined: Tuesday, 31st December 2013, 19:51

Post Thursday, 17th April 2014, 23:51

I stepped into a ziggurat, help!

By accident. But while I'm here I might as well give maybe the first few floors a shot.

Already cleared the first 2 floors (yak and griffon, fire giant and merfolk) and got the ring of the Clouds (rF+, rC+, MR++, Str+3} so that was veeery nice.

For all you 15-runed masters of ziggurat running, can you tell me how far I can reasonably get to before the floors get too hard?

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-2820-gd1528c4 (console) character file.

Karla the Ninja (Vampire Enchanter)               Turns: 132737, Time: 05:12:14

HP 201/201       AC 19     Str 11      XL: 24   Next: 62%
MP  51/51        EV 21     Int 27      God: Ashenzari [******]
Gold 5529        SH 14     Dex 14      Spells: 14 memorised,  2 levels left

rFire  + + .     SeeInvis +     a - +6,+7 dagger (vamp) (curse)
rCold  + + +     Clarity  +     u - +4 ring mail "Qilead" {rElec rF++ rC+}
rNeg   + + +     Conserve +     M - +2 dwarf buckler (curse)
rPois  +         rCorr    .     R - +1 helmet {Int+3} (curse)
rElec  +         rRot     +     n - +1 dwarf cloak {MR+} (curse)
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     L - +2 pair of orc gloves {Str+3} (curse)
rMut   .         Warding  .     i - +2 pair of boots of the Assassin {Stlth++}
Saprov . . .     Stasis   .     s - amulet of conservation
MR     ++++.                    h - cursed ring of magical power
                                w - cursed ring of protection from magic

@: non-regenerating, invisible, very slightly contaminated, incredibly resistant
to hostile enchantments, uncannily stealthy
A: bottle blood, fangs 3, see invisible, (wild magic 0), unbreathing
a: Bat Form, Bottle Blood, Scrying, Transfer Knowledge, Renounce Religion
}: 4/15 runes: serpentine, barnacled, slimy, silver


You are on level 2 of a ziggurat.
You worship Ashenzari.
Ashenzari is exalted by your worship.
You are bloodless.

You have visited 11 branches of the dungeon, and seen 56 of its levels.
You have visited 1 Ziggurat, and seen 2 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Bailey and Ice Cave.

You have collected 6996 gold pieces.
You have spent 1467 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a cursed +6,+7 vampiric dagger (weapon)
 H - a cursed +6,+4 quick blade of freezing
 T - the +5,+7 dagger of Chilly Death {freeze, rPois rF- rC++ MR}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)   
   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly susceptible
   opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   
   It makes you vulnerable to fire.
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
Armour
 i - the cursed +2 pair of boots of the Assassin (worn) {Stlth++}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)   
   
   It makes you much more stealthy.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 n - a cursed +1 dwarven cloak of magic resistance (worn)
 u - the cursed +4 ring mail "Qilead" (worn) {rElec rF++ rC+}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It has a curse placed upon it.
 L - a cursed +2 pair of orcish gloves of strength (worn)
 M - a cursed +2 dwarven buckler (worn)
 R - a cursed +1 helmet of intelligence (worn)
Magical devices
 b - a wand of heal wounds (9)
 e - a wand of digging {zapped: 1}
 y - a wand of teleportation (4)
 D - a wand of teleportation
 N - a wand of disintegration (18)
 Y - a wand of heal wounds (6)
Scrolls
 c - 2 scrolls of fog
 k - 2 scrolls of torment
 m - 3 scrolls of fear
 p - 6 scrolls of identify
 t - 4 scrolls of remove curse
 v - 4 scrolls of summoning
 z - 22 scrolls of teleportation
 C - 6 scrolls of blinking
 F - a scroll of enchant armour
 J - a scroll of magic mapping
Jewellery
 h - a cursed ring of magical power (right hand)
 o - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation
 q - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 s - an amulet of conservation (around neck)
 w - a cursed ring of protection from magic (left hand)
 E - the amulet "Haninett" {Stasis rElec Str+2 Acc+6 Dam+3}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   [amulet of stasis]
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your accuracy with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+6).
   It affects your damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+3).
   It insulates you from electricity.
 O - the ring of the Clouds {rF+ rC+ MR++ Str+3}
   (You found it on level 2 of a ziggurat)   
   
   [ring of protection from fire]
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
Potions
 d - 2 potions of agility
 g - a potion of magic
 j - 2 potions of blood
 l - 3 potions of brilliance
 x - 2 potions of restore abilities
 A - a potion of might
 B - 2 potions of heal wounds
 G - a potion of flight
 I - 3 potions of speed
 Q - 6 potions of curing
Books
 r - the Almanac of Fetching Confrontation
   (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Sure Blade                         Hexes/Charms                 2
   *Freezing Cloud                    Conjuration/Ice/Air          6
   Poisonous Cloud                    Conjuration/Poison/Air       6
   *Invisibility                      Hexes                        6
 Z - a book of Dreams   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Ensorcelled Hibernation           Hexes/Ice                    2
   *Flight                            Charms/Air                   3
   Phase Shift                        Translocation                5
   *Shadow Creatures                  Summoning                    5
   Mass Confusion                     Hexes                        6
   *Darkness                          Hexes                        7
Miscellaneous
 f - a fan of gales
 K - a disc of storms
 P - a stone of tremors
 V - a phial of floods
 X - a lamp of fire
Rods
 S - a +4 rod of frigid destruction (11/11)
   (You took it off Kirke on level 3 of the Elven Halls)


   Skills:
 - Level 19.0 Fighting
 - Level 11.0(15.2) Short Blades
 - Level 0.7 Throwing
 - Level 17.6(21.3) Dodging
 O Level 27 Stealth
 - Level 4.2(7.0) Shields
 - Level 17.0 Spellcasting
 - Level 9.5(12.4) Conjurations
 - Level 14.1(16.7) Hexes
 - Level 6.7(9.8) Charms
 - Level 5.0(8.0) Summonings
 - Level 2.4(4.8) Translocations
 - Level 6.7(9.8) Transmutations
 - Level 7.7(10.7) Ice Magic
 + Level 13.6(16.2) Earth Magic
 - Level 6.9(10.0) Poison Magic


You have 2 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Alistair's Intoxicat  Trmt/Pois      ######..     1%          4    None
b - Ensorcelled Hibernat  Hex/Ice        ######       1%          2    None
c - Confuse               Hex            #######.     0%          3    None
d - Invisibility          Hex            #######.     1%          6    ###....
e - Summon Butterflies    Summ           ######..     1%          1    None
f - Flight                Chrm/Air       ######....   1%          3    None
g - Abjuration            Summ           ######....   1%          3    None
h - Iron Shot             Conj/Erth      #######...   1%          6    ###....
i - Apportation           Tloc           #####.....   1%          1    None
j - Shadow Creatures      Summ           N/A          4%          5    None
k - Darkness              Hex            #######...   3%          7    #####..
l - Haste                 Chrm           ######..     12%         6    ###....
m - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       ######       1%          2    None
n - Freezing Cloud        Conj/Ice/Air   ######....   21%         6    ###....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (16/16)            Temple (1/1) D:5             Orc (4/4) D:12
    Elf (3/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:9          Shoals (5/5) Lair:5
  Snake (5/5) Lair:4        Slime (6/6) Lair:7       Vaults (5/5) D:15
  Blade (1/1) Vaults:4      Crypt (0/5) Vaults:2     Depths (2/6) D:16

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Jiyva

Shops:
D:8 (   D:13 *   D:15 *   Orc:3 !   Orc:4 /=}*   Elf:2 (%/   Elf:3 *
Shoals:3 =   Snake:1 (   Vaults:5 /

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1
Bazaar: Snake:1

Annotations:
Shoals:1 exclusion: manticore


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You do not heal naturally.
You can bottle blood from corpses.
You have razor-sharp teeth.*
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
You can survive without breathing.*
((Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful.))+


Message History

You stick the merfolk like a pincushion!!!!!!
You kill the merfolk!
F - a scroll of enchant armour
There is a gate leading back out of here, spattered with blood here.
You see here 7 poisoned bolts.
O - the ring of the Clouds {rF+ rC+ MR++ Str+3}
There is a gate leading back out of here, spattered with blood here.
You see here 9 darts of frost.
C - 6 scrolls of blinking (gained 1)
There is a stone staircase leading down, spattered with blood here.
Put on which piece of jewellery? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
There is a stone staircase leading down, spattered with blood here.
There is a gate leading back out of here, spattered with blood here.
You see here 9 darts of frost.
There is a stone staircase leading down, spattered with blood here.
There is a gate leading back out of here, spattered with blood here.
You see here 7 poisoned bolts.
There is a stone staircase leading down, spattered with blood here.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  the royal jelly (Slime:6)
  Dissolution (Slime:6)
  Margery (Blade)
  Mennas (Vaults:5)
  A golden dragon (Depths:2)
  The ghost of Domeki the Slayer, a great KoBe of Trog (Vaults:5)
  Nikola (Snake:1)
  2 tentacled monstrosities (Depths:2)
  A titan (Depths:2)
  2 deep elf blademasters (Elf:3)
  A quicksilver dragon (Vaults:5)
  2 deep elf master archers (Elf:3)
  An azure jelly (shapeshifter) (Elf:3)
  22 acid blobs
  A storm dragon (Vaults:4)
  7 tengu reavers
  Rupert (Elf:3)
  3 sphinxes
  Kirke (Elf:3)
  3 shadow dragons (Vaults:5)
  A fire giant (shapeshifter) (Zig:2)
  Ilsuiw (Shoals:5)
  4 greater nagas (Snake:5)
  10 deep elf sorcerers
  6 azure jellies
  4 fire giants
  7 vault wardens
  Aizul (Snake:3)
  Louise (Snake:1)
  6 frost giants
  Gastronok (D:13)
  37 stone giants
  3 deep elf demonologists (Elf:3)
  A war gargoyle (Vaults:5)
  11 deep elf annihilators
  9 merfolk javelineers
  Snorg (D:16)
  4 merfolk impalers
  31 vault guards
  12 deep elf death magi
  4 death oozes (Slime:6)
  12 ettins
  10 ironheart preservers
  A minotaur (Lab)
  22 yaktaur captains
  6 deep elf high priests (Elf:3)
  3 sirens
  Fannar (D:16)
  17 naga warriors
  5 fire dragons
  2 ice dragons
  Harold (Orc:2)
  27 dancing weapons
  4 great orbs of eyes
  15 hydras
  A ravenous feature mimic (Snake:2)
  A merfolk aquamancer (Shoals:5)
  14 anacondas
  2 ravenous item mimics (Depths:2)
  2 deep troll earth magi (Depths:2)
  Erica (D:12)
  A satyr (Shoals:5)
  A deep troll shaman (Vaults:3)
  2 rakshasas
  A tengu warrior (Depths:2)
  20 naga sharpshooters
  19 very ugly things
  15 ogre magi
  Urug (Orc:4)
  A titan zombie (Vaults:5)
  27 centaur warriors
  7 spectral elves (Elf:3)
  5 ice devils (IceCv)
  Nergalle (Lair:6)
  20 deep elf knights
  3 orc high priests
  2 fire crabs (shapeshifter)
  2 large abominations
  A fire crab (Vaults:5)
  A skeletal warrior (Vaults:2)
  6 iron trolls
  10 deep trolls
  13 hell knights
  20 sea snakes
  2 lindwurms (shapeshifter)
  6 unseen horrors
  A shock serpent (shapeshifter) (D:16)
  A sea snake (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  10 shock serpents
  Erolcha (Orc:4)
  A giant orange brain (Vaults:3)
  9 deep elf summoners
  An ice statue (Snake:4)
  5 water nymphs
  A tengu zombie (Vaults:5)
  A wizard (D:15)
  Pikel (D:6)
  16 ironbrand convokers
  11 naga ritualists
  15 orc knights
  6 harpies
  14 deep elf conjurers
  14 hill giants
  A flaming corpse (Vaults:2)
  14 griffons
  3 wolf spiders
  A manticore (shapeshifter) (Depths:2)
  12 mana vipers
  3 necromancers
  A moth of wrath (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  15 manticores
  6 red wasps
  A stone giant zombie (Vaults:5)
  4 shining eyes
  A phantasmal warrior (Vaults:5)
  A draconian (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  5 orc sorcerers
  6 guardian serpents
  An elephant (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  12 elephants
  4 eyes of devastation
  10 cyclopes
  Maurice (Orc:1)
  65 black mambas
  An octopode (shapeshifter) (Depths:2)
  9 octopodes
  A sixfirhy (Elf:3)
  17 vault sentinels
  A black mamba (shapeshifter) (Depths:2)
  12 salamanders
  11 fauns
  A yaktaur (shapeshifter) (D:16)
  2 feature mimics
  Psyche (D:12)
  31 naga magi
  2 anaconda simulacra (IceCv)
  A phoenix simulacrum (IceCv)
  A small abomination (Elf:3)
  22 spiny frogs
  An iron devil (Depths:1)
  9 mermaids
  19 merfolk
  A golden dragon simulacrum (IceCv)
  40 yaktaurs
  2 queen bees (shapeshifter)
  2 fire drakes
  2 jumping spiders (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  11 deep elf priests
  A merfolk (shapeshifter) (Zig:2)
  35 two-headed ogres
  A blue devil (IceCv)
  A polar bear (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  9 freezing wraiths
  2 wandering mushrooms
  A troll (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  2 wind drakes
  A wolf spider simulacrum (IceCv)
  A centaur skeleton (D:16)
  4 giant leeches
  5 trolls
  3 fire vortices (Depths:2)
  3 komodo dragons
  A polar bear (Lair:4)
  Prince Ribbit (D:6)
  119 slime creatures
  A jumping spider (Elf:2)
  2 boulder beetles
  18 brown oozes
  31 blink frogs
  8 snapping turtles
  A baby alligator (shapeshifter) (Elf:2)
  3 dire elephant simulacra (IceCv)
  8 redbacks
  3 basilisks
  A fire elemental (Depths:2)
  A shadow (D:15)
  22 water elementals
  The ghost of Erias the Conjurer, an average DECj (D:4)
  A trapdoor spider (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  A basilisk (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  7 wraiths
  2 wyverns
  A vampire (Depths:2)
  2 yaktaur simulacra
  50 yaks
  3 griffon skeletons
  111 ugly things
  22 vampire mosquitoes
  3 elephant slugs
  14 sharks
  A human (Elf:3)
  A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  A clay golem (D:15)
  A tarantella (Vaults:3)
  14 golden eyes
  Grum (Orc:1)
  41 deep elf magi
  34 deep elf fighters
  2 hill giant skeletons (D:12)
  13 hippogriffs
  13 wolves
  A harpy simulacrum (IceCv)
  A hungry ghost (Vaults:2)
  3 swamp worms (Lair:4)
  5 mottled dragons
  2 centaur simulacra
  52 nagas
  A soldier ant (D:12)
  2 hydra simulacra (IceCv)
  3 necrophages
  2 soldier ants (shapeshifter)
  3 iron troll simulacra (IceCv)
  5 giant goldfish
  3 sky beasts
  7 porcupines
  A yellow wasp (D:8)
  59 ogres
  6 ice beasts
  A kobold demonologist (Vaults:1)
  36 orc warriors
  7 tengu
  4 phantoms
  4 slaves (D:6)
  2 boring beetles (Lair:8)
  4 wargs
  2 manticore skeletons
  5 crocodiles
  Sigmund (D:4)
  4 big kobolds
  Duvessa (D:8)
  37 centaurs
  2 lost souls
  2 spriggan simulacra (IceCv)
  2 lava worms (Depths:2)
  42 giant frogs
  Blork the orc (D:4)
  9 giant slugs
  A silver statue (Zig:1)
  31 water moccasins
  4 eyes of draining
  8 electric eels
  An elephant simulacrum (IceCv)
  7 lava snakes (Depths:2)
  26 killer bees
  7 wights
  A quasit (D:11)
  8 goliath beetles
  26 orc priests
  Dowan (D:8)
  11 crimson imps
  4 big fish (Lair:8)
  17 hounds
  37 orc wizards
  Crazy Yiuf (D:3)
  A giant frog skeleton (D:10)
  16 jellies
  7 scorpions
  3 iron imps (Depths:1)
  A two-headed ogre skeleton (D:8)
  A polar bear simulacrum (IceCv)
  Natasha (thrice) (D:3)
  11 iguanas
  8 worker ants
  6 orange rats (Lair:6)
  4 troll simulacra (IceCv)
  25 sheep
  An ogre zombie (D:11)
  Ijyb (D:6)
  Jessica (D:3)
  An ogre skeleton (D:7)
  A crocodile skeleton (D:13)
  2 mummies
  Terence (D:1)
  9 boggarts
  3 hound skeletons (D:10)
  6 giant centipedes
  3 orc zombies
  24 adders
  2 big fish zombies (D:3)
  40 green rats
  2 ogre simulacra (IceCv)
  9 gnolls
  An inept feature mimic (D:9)
  A goliath beetle zombie (D:12)
  5 white imps (IceCv)
  4 worms
  6 giant mites
  A worm (shapeshifter) (D:16)
  7 ufetubi (IceCv)
  2 adder skeletons
  An adder zombie (D:6)
  7 giant eyeballs
  10 giant geckos
  6 oozes
  201 orcs
  28 bats
  9 giant cockroaches
  19 hobgoblins
  19 jackals
  38 kobolds
  5 ball pythons
  4 giant newts
  A giant spore (D:14)
  22 goblins
  14 illusory rakshasas
  3 orc skeletons
  10 quokkas
  A quokka skeleton (D:6)
  23 rats
  8 ballistomycetes
  A butterfly (Elf:3)
  6 crawling corpses
  6 fungi
  A plant (Snake:3)
2822 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  2 tentacled monstrosities (Vaults:5)
  A storm dragon (Vaults:5)
  A titan (Vaults:5)
  2 acid blobs (Slime:4)
  A tengu reaver (Vaults:5)
  2 shadow dragons
  3 greater nagas
  A vault warden (Vaults:5)
  3 stone giants (Vaults:5)
  2 yaktaur captains (Vaults:5)
  2 naga sharpshooters (Snake:3)
  An iron troll (Vaults:5)
  A hell knight (Vaults:5)
  2 sea snakes (Snake:4)
  An orc knight (Vaults:5)
  A necromancer (Vaults:5)
  A naga mage (Snake:4)
  A black mamba (Snake:4)
  A vault sentinel (Vaults:5)
  A deep elf priest (Vaults:5)
  4 slime creatures (Slime:4)
  A deep elf fighter (Vaults:5)
  2 nagas (Snake:3)
  A human zombie (Vaults:5)
  2 electric eels (Snake:4)
  A giant eyeball (Slime:4)
  An ooze (Slime:4)
  An orc (Vaults:5)
  3 plants (Snake:4)
46 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A fire giant (Depths:2)
  A stone giant (Vaults:5)
  A war gargoyle (Vaults:5)
  A merfolk javelineer (Shoals:5)
  An ettin (Vaults:5)
  A great orb of eyes (Vaults:3)
  A yaktaur captain (Vaults:5)
  An ironheart preserver (Vaults:5)
  A deep troll shaman (Vaults:5)
  An ogre mage (Vaults:5)
  A satyr (Shoals:5)
  A spectral elf (Vaults:5)
  A deep troll earth mage (Vaults:5)
  A very ugly thing (Vaults:4)
  A centaur warrior (Vaults:1)
  2 naga ritualists
  2 deep trolls (Vaults:5)
  2 orc knights
  2 orc sorcerers (Vaults:5)
  2 vault sentinels (Vaults:5)
  3 black mambas
  4 drowned souls (Shoals:3)
  2 naga magi
  A centaur zombie (D:15)
  2 freezing wraiths (Vaults:5)
  A troll (Vaults:5)
  A fire vortex (Depths:2)
  A two-headed ogre (Depths:2)
  3 yaktaurs
  A boulder beetle (Vaults:5)
  5 slime creatures (D:15)
  2 redbacks (Vaults:5)
  An ugly thing (Vaults:4)
  2 humans (Elf:3)
  A deep elf fighter (Vaults:5)
  A centaur (Vaults:3)
  3 ogres
  6 orc warriors
  2 lost souls (Elf:3)
  A water moccasin (Snake:4)
  An orc priest (Vaults:3)
  A wolf simulacrum (IceCv)
  A white imp (IceCv)
  6 orcs
  A goblin (D:4)
  2 giant spores
  A kobold (Bailey)
  15 butterflies
  11 fungi (Lair:8)
  18 plants
  5 tentacles (Shoals:5)
  25 tentacle segments (Shoals:5)
155 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 3023 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | Karla, the Vampire Enchanter, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 3/3
   153 | D:1      | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes
   344 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 13/19 MP: 4/4
   694 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Ensorcelled Hibernation
  1101 | D:2      | Reached skill level 6 in Hexes
  1101 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 20/24 MP: 0/6
  1157 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse
  1545 | D:2      | Noticed Terence
  1646 | D:1      | Killed Terence
  1646 | D:1      | Reached skill level 7 in Hexes
  1883 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 30/30 MP: 2/7
  2367 | D:2      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  2561 | D:2      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  2954 | D:3      | Noticed Natasha
  2960 | D:3      | Killed Natasha
  2960 | D:3      | Reached skill level 8 in Hexes
  3058 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 35/35 MP: 2/9
  3080 | D:3      | Noticed Natasha
  3097 | D:3      | Killed Natasha
  3262 | D:3      | Noticed Jessica
  3283 | D:3      | Killed Jessica
  3283 | D:3      | Reached skill level 9 in Hexes
  3396 | D:3      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  3396 | D:3      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  3621 | D:3      | Noticed Natasha
  3630 | D:3      | Killed Natasha
  4104 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 25/41 MP: 0/10
  4382 | D:3      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  4576 | D:3      | Reached skill level 10 in Hexes
  4947 | D:3      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  5131 | D:3      | Learned a level 6 spell: Invisibility
  5371 | D:3      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  5518 | D:3      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 28/46 MP: 1/14
  5591 | D:3      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  5842 | D:3      | Reached skill level 11 in Hexes
  6130 | D:4      | Noticed Sigmund
  6142 | D:4      | Killed Sigmund
  6455 | D:4      | Noticed Blork the orc
  7142 | D:4      | Noticed Erias' ghost (average DECj)
  7154 | D:4      | Killed Erias' ghost
  7154 | D:4      | Reached skill level 12 in Hexes
  7480 | D:4      | Killed Blork the orc
  7480 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
  7480 | D:4      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 52/52 MP: 10/16
  7841 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  7951 | D:5      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  8261 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  9026 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  9057 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled
  9128 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
  9594 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 57/57 MP: 11/17
  9822 | D:6      | Noticed Pikel
  9861 | D:6      | Killed Pikel
  9861 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades
 10251 | D:6      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
 10328 | D:6      | Killed Prince Ribbit
 10484 | D:6      | Noticed Ijyb
 10528 | D:6      | Killed Ijyb
 11773 | D:8      | Found Wixzun's Weapon Shoppe.
 12087 | D:8      | Found a flagged portal.
 12109 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
 12491 | Bailey   | Reached XP level 10. HP: 63/63 MP: 15/18
 12552 | Bailey   | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades
 13017 | D:8      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
 13028 | D:8      | Noticed Duvessa
 13028 | D:8      | Noticed Dowan
 13033 | D:8      | Killed Duvessa
 13039 | D:8      | Killed Dowan
 13572 | D:8      | Acquired Ashenzari's first power
 14005 | D:9      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
 14418 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 14807 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 15058 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 15443 | Lair:1   | Identified the +1 leather armour of the Eleven Ships {rC+}
 15863 | Lair:1   | Acquired Ashenzari's second power
 16183 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 83/83 MP: 20/20
 16235 | Lair:2   | Identified the cursed -5 ring mail "Gezxes" {Str-5 Dex-2 Curse}
 16788 | Lair:2   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 16990 | Lair:2   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 16990 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 17416 | Lair:3   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 17455 | Lair:3   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 18140 | Lair:3   | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 18204 | Lair:4   | Acquired Ashenzari's third power
 18530 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 18543 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 18551 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 86/86 MP: 20/20
 19015 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 19148 | Lair:4   | the staircase to the Swamp was a mimic.
 19793 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 19929 | Lair:5   | Identified the +4 ring mail "Qilead" {rElec rF++ rC+}
 20060 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 13 in Dodging
 20660 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 14 in Dodging
 20875 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic
 20946 | Lair:6   | Identified the +2 scale mail of Neinol {rC+}
 20953 | Lair:6   | Noticed Nergalle
 20998 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 21403 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 21671 | D:10     | Acquired Ashenzari's fourth power
 21998 | D:11     | Reached XP level 13. HP: 92/92 MP: 14/21
 22466 | D:11     | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
 23946 | D:12     | Noticed Erica
 23950 | D:12     | Killed Erica
 24065 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 24289 | D:12     | Noticed Psyche
 24441 | D:12     | Killed Psyche
 25056 | D:13     | Reached skill level 15 in Stealth
 25383 | D:13     | Noticed Gastronok
 25393 | D:13     | Killed Gastronok
 25427 | D:13     | Reached skill level 16 in Stealth
 25433 | D:13     | Found Catotuf's Elemental Accessories.
 25976 | D:14     | Reached XP level 14. HP: 101/101 MP: 22/22
 26455 | D:14     | Reached skill level 17 in Stealth
 26918 | D:14     | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
 27069 | D:14     | Identified the +0 robe "Doajexul" {Dex+4 Int+2 Curse}
 27308 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 27443 | D:15     | Learned a level 4 spell: Alistair's Intoxication
 27445 | D:15     | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies
 27447 | D:15     | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
 27562 | D:15     | Found Gahiunof's Assorted Antiques.
 27578 | D:15     | Bought a scroll labeled TOCEDISIRI for 27 gold pieces
 27724 | D:15     | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 27731 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 29502 | Lab      | Reached skill level 18 in Stealth
 29511 | Lab      | Identified the amulet "Plog" {Inacc rPois rC- Dex+3}
 29668 | D:15     | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
 29733 | D:15     | Identified the +8,+10 long sword "Newtslayer" {flame, Str+2}
 30454 | D:15     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 30592 | D:15     | Reached skill level 19 in Stealth
 30623 | D:15     | Reached skill level 1 in Transmutations
 31636 | Shoals:1 | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 31707 | Shoals:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Transmutations
 34207 | Shoals:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
 34224 | Shoals:3 | Found Wiuplov's Jewellery Boutique.
 34585 | Shoals:3 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 110/110 MP: 23/23
 34974 | Shoals:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 36958 | Shoals:4 | Identified the +1,+7 quick blade "Schownidd" {holy, Int+1}
 37663 | Shoals:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Shoals
 37663 | Shoals:5 | Identified the +7,+8 war axe of Magnificence {venom, MR++ SInv}
 37679 | Shoals:5 | Noticed Ilsuiw
 37682 | Shoals:5 | Killed Ilsuiw
 38045 | Shoals:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 39079 | Shoals:5 | Identified the cursed -1,+2 spear "Trog's Wrath" {pierce, Str+2} (You took it off a merfolk javelineer on level 5 of the Shoals)
 39806 | Shoals:5 | Noticed a kraken
 40306 | Shoals:5 | Got a barnacled rune of Zot
 40789 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 40789 | Orc:1    | Noticed Maurice
 40798 | Orc:1    | Killed Maurice
 41381 | Orc:1    | Noticed Grum
 41392 | Orc:1    | Killed Grum
 42110 | Orc:2    | Noticed Harold
 42132 | Orc:2    | Killed Harold
 43599 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 44005 | Vaults:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Abjuration
 44170 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 117/117 MP: 30/30
 46125 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 20 in Stealth
 46274 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic
 46777 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 47321 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic
 47404 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 47797 | Vaults:2 | Identified the +0 robe "Amytulav" {rElec rPois rN+ MR++ Str+3 SInv}
 47995 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
 48798 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings
 49460 | Vaults:2 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 125/125 MP: 31/31
 50639 | Orc:3    | Found Qurimiw's Distillery.
 51158 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 51210 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 51342 | Orc:4    | Found Qytzuteo's Gadget Shop.
 51342 | Orc:4    | Found Qehar's Magical Wand Emporium.
 51342 | Orc:4    | Found Azang's General Store.
 51342 | Orc:4    | Found Treuv's Jewellery Shop.
 51569 | Orc:4    | Bought the amulet "Haninett" {Stasis rElec Str+2 Acc+6 Dam+3} for 1310 gold pieces
 51571 | Orc:4    | Bought a +0 pair of boots of flying for 91 gold pieces
 51577 | Orc:4    | Noticed Erolcha
 51584 | Orc:4    | Killed Erolcha
 51584 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 51836 | Orc:4    | Noticed Urug
 51851 | Orc:4    | Killed Urug
 52484 | Orc:4    | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 39 gold pieces
 52543 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 52559 | Elf:1    | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 53702 | Elf:2    | Found Twuror's Food Boutique.
 53867 | Elf:2    | Found Hagaeh's Magical Wand Emporium.
 54131 | Elf:2    | Found Huipa's Weapon Shoppe.
 55318 | Elf:3    | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls
 55323 | Elf:3    | Found Twastok's General Store.
 55786 | Elf:3    | Noticed Rupert
 55792 | Elf:3    | Killed Rupert
 55949 | Elf:3    | Identified the +9,+5 cutlass of Integrity {drain, Int+3}
 58519 | Elf:3    | Reached XP level 18. HP: 139/145 MP: 9/31
 61163 | Elf:3    | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 61545 | Elf:3    | Noticed Kirke
 61546 | Elf:3    | Identified a +4 rod of frigid destruction (11/11)
 61547 | Elf:3    | Identified the ring of Bokabe {EV+3 Dex+3 Int+1}
 61563 | Elf:3    | Killed Kirke
 61604 | Elf:3    | Identified the Papyrus of Blistering Attacks
 61748 | Elf:3    | Identified the cursed +3 scale mail of Xolesap {Dex-2 Int+4}
 61748 | Elf:3    | Identified the cursed -2,+1 scimitar of Poverty {slice, rPois Stlth}
 61753 | Elf:3    | Identified the +3 ring mail of the Monkey {+Fly}
 61816 | Elf:3    | Identified the Catalogue of the Traveller (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 61830 | Elf:3    | Learned a level 4 spell: Control Teleport
 61845 | Elf:3    | Learned a level 3 spell: Flight
 63194 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 63250 | Snake:1  | Noticed Nikola
 63257 | Snake:1  | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
 63474 | Snake:1  | Killed Nikola
 63474 | Snake:1  | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 63559 | Snake:1  | Found Skaunan's Weapon Boutique.
 63735 | Snake:1  | Noticed Louise
 63744 | Snake:1  | Killed Louise
 63964 | Snake:1  | Found a gateway to a bazaar.
 64860 | Snake:2  | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations
 66834 | Snake:3  | Reached XP level 19. HP: 153/153 MP: 32/32
 67182 | Snake:3  | Noticed Aizul
 67321 | Snake:3  | Killed Aizul
 72391 | D:16     | Entered Level 16 of the Dungeon
 72474 | D:16     | Noticed Snorg
 72475 | D:16     | Killed Snorg
 72693 | D:16     | Identified the cursed +6,-2 mace of Uggeun {crush, Int+3}
 72718 | D:16     | Learned a level 5 spell: Shadow Creatures
 73386 | D:16     | Noticed Fannar
 73397 | D:16     | Killed Fannar
 74051 | D:16     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 76334 | Vaults:4 | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades.
 77426 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 171/171 MP: 32/32
 80164 | Vaults:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Vaults
 82967 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 84136 | Vaults:5 | Noticed Mennas
 84321 | Vaults:5 | Identified the +6,+9 battleaxe of Cipea {freeze, rN+ MR++ Int+3} (You took it off a vault warden on level 5 of the Vaults)
 84534 | Vaults:5 | Identified the ring "Ynwac" {+Rage +Fly rElec Acc+6 SInv} (You took it off a tengu reaver on level 5 of the Vaults)
 85991 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 35/179 MP: 2/38
 86781 | Vaults:5 | Identified the +1,+6 cutlass of Dawn {holy, rC+ Dex+3 Int+3}
 87055 | Vaults:5 | Noticed Domeki's ghost (great KoBe)
 87073 | Vaults:5 | Killed Domeki's ghost
 87159 | Vaults:5 | Learned a level 7 spell: Darkness
 87166 | Vaults:5 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste
 87791 | Vaults:5 | Identified the +0 chain mail "Gippivup" {rPois rC++ Acc+4}
 87805 | Vaults:5 | Got a silver rune of Zot
 88203 | Vaults:5 | Identified the +3 scale mail of the Shoals {Acc-3}
 88215 | Vaults:5 | Identified the cursed -1,+3 sling "Ameppom" {venom, rC- Int+2}
 88225 | Vaults:5 | Found Fruab's Magical Wand Boutique.
 88238 | Vaults:5 | Identified the Almanac of Fetching Confrontation (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)
 88274 | Vaults:5 | Identified Khufu's Almanac of Unholy Rites
 88285 | Vaults:5 | Identified Kanacliuxa's Tome of Creation
 88630 | Vaults:5 | Identified the +8 crystal plate armour of Cyerroin {+Rage +Inv Dex+3} (You took it off a vault warden on level 5 of the Vaults)
 89765 | Snake:1  | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting
 90029 | Snake:3  | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [potion of beneficial mutation]
 94519 | Vaults:3 | Learned a level 6 spell: Iron Shot
 94676 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic
 99412 | Snake:3  | Reached skill level 5 in Earth Magic
 99999 | Snake:4  | Found a frozen archway.
100027 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
100076 | IceCv    | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
100427 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
102433 | Snake:4  | Reached XP level 22. HP: 186/186 MP: 39/41
103568 | Snake:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit
104220 | Snake:5  | Identified the cursed -5 ring mail of the Sunfish {Str-1 Dex+5}
106098 | Snake:5  | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
107727 | Snake:5  | Got a serpentine rune of Zot
108741 | Lair:6   | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
108868 | Lair:6   | Killed Nergalle
109349 | Lair:7   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
109993 | Lair:7   | Identified the +10 plate armour of Hiaproer {rC++ Int+2}
110130 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
113345 | Slime:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Pits of Slime
114034 | Slime:3  | Reached skill level 10 in Earth Magic
114423 | Slime:6  | Entered Level 6 of the Pits of Slime
114457 | Slime:6  | Reached XP level 23. HP: 194/194 MP: 41/41
114458 | Slime:6  | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
114461 | Slime:6  | Noticed the royal jelly
115545 | Slime:6  | Noticed Dissolution
115548 | Slime:6  | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
116542 | Slime:6  | Killed Dissolution
117174 | Slime:6  | Killed the royal jelly
117473 | Slime:6  | Identified the ring "Rodaotsay" {+Fly Dex+3 Acc+4}
117474 | Slime:6  | Identified the +10,+9 crossbow "Gyim" {venom, rPois Str+2}
117474 | Slime:6  | Identified the +2 chain mail of Woda {Int+2}
117476 | Slime:6  | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
117556 | Slime:6  | Identified the cursed +4 troll leather armour "Gaatuiv" {Acc+4 Dam+6}
117564 | Slime:6  | Identified the +2 plate armour of Life {Str+3 Dex+1}
118033 | Slime:6  | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
118160 | Slime:6  | Learned a level 2 spell: Sublimation of Blood
118231 | Slime:6  | Got a slimy rune of Zot
120571 | Vaults:5 | Killed Mennas
120672 | Blade    | Entered the Hall of Blades
121251 | Blade    | Noticed Margery
123121 | Blade    | Killed Margery
123121 | Blade    | Reached skill level 21 in Stealth
123522 | Vaults:3 | Learned a level 6 spell: Freezing Cloud
123764 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths
123774 | Depths:1 | Reached skill level 22 in Stealth
124277 | Depths:1 | Reached skill level 23 in Stealth
124742 | Depths:1 | Found a gateway to Hell.
125176 | Depths:2 | Reached XP level 24. HP: 200/200 MP: 23/43
125585 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 24 in Stealth
128635 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 25 in Stealth
129140 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 26 in Stealth
130603 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 27 in Stealth
132547 | Depths:2 | Found a gateway to a ziggurat.
132593 | Zig:1    | Entered Level 1 of a ziggurat
132709 | Zig:2    | Entered Level 2 of a ziggurat
132714 | Zig:2    | Identified the ring of the Clouds {rF+ rC+ MR++ Str+3}


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Dagger            |   136 |   245 |   321 |   533 |  1031 |  1574 |  1990 |  2136 ||  7966
Throw: Dart              |     1 |    22 |     4 |    12 |     2 |       |       |       ||    41
 Cast: Ensorcelled Hiber |    17 |    82 |    90 |   126 |   246 |   318 |   322 |   408 ||  1609
       Confuse           |     3 |     9 |     6 |     7 |    16 |    39 |   102 |    46 ||   228
       Invisibility      |       |     1 |    30 |    38 |    74 |    87 |    85 |    71 ||   386
       Alistair's Intoxi |       |       |       |       |       |    76 |    43 |     8 ||   127
       Abjuration        |       |       |       |       |       |    14 |     2 |     2 ||    18
       Summon Butterflie |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |     2 |     2 ||     6
       Flight            |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |    11 |    38 ||    50
       Shadow Creatures  |       |       |       |       |       |       |    69 |     9 ||    78
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       Haste             |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     3 ||     3
       Apportation       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
Invok: Scrying           |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     3 ||     3
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       Bottle Blood      |       |       |       |       |     2 |     3 |     1 |     1 ||     7
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       Phial of floods   |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
  Use: Potion            |     1 |       |       |    13 |    11 |    10 |     7 |     7 ||    49
       Scroll            |       |     4 |    13 |    13 |    23 |    11 |    13 |    16 ||    93
 Stab: Sleeping          |    14 |    53 |   105 |   185 |   313 |   312 |   285 |   381 ||  1648
       Confused          |     3 |     2 |     5 |     4 |     9 |    52 |    55 |    19 ||   149
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Post Thursday, 17th April 2014, 23:56

Re: I stepped into a ziggurat, help!

Leave as soon as you feel uncomfortable.

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Post Thursday, 17th April 2014, 23:59

Re: I stepped into a ziggurat, help!

Sandman25 wrote:Leave as soon as you feel uncomfortable.


i guess i figured that much out, but i'm not sure how uncomfortable it'll get and maybe the next floor won't allow teleport control.

just now went to zig:3, apocalypse crab and killer klown nearly did me in cause i ran out of mana and got paralyzed...and luckily got banished by chaos clouds.
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Post Friday, 18th April 2014, 00:01

Re: I stepped into a ziggurat, help!

It depends on the character.

There's always a chance of getting a nasty floor, even relatively early on. Your character type isn't the best for these sorts of battles, though (if you had mass confusion and/or discord it might be a different story); freezing cloud is only at 21%.

You got good HP but your AC/EV are low for this character level (and definitely for zigg).

You are taking an unnecessary risk going deeper into the ziggurat at all. However with 6 ?blinking you will be relatively safe so long as there isn't -cTele, but you can get -cTele fairly early if you are unlucky.

Best advice IMO is to get out now and take your lucky find(s), if you want to win this character more than seeing more of a ziggurat.

EDIT: Ultimately didn't matter, glad you made it out okay (if just barely).
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Post Friday, 18th April 2014, 00:13

Re: I stepped into a ziggurat, help!

and into wrote:It depends on the character.

There's always a chance of getting a nasty floor, even relatively early on. Your character type isn't the best for these sorts of battles, though (if you had mass confusion and/or discord it might be a different story); freezing cloud is only at 21%.

You got good HP but your AC/EV are low for this character level (and definitely for zigg).

You are taking an unnecessary risk going deeper into the ziggurat at all. However with 6 ?blinking you will be relatively safe so long as there isn't -cTele, but you can get -cTele fairly early if you are unlucky.

Best advice IMO is to get out now and take your lucky find(s), if you want to win this character more than seeing more of a ziggurat.

EDIT: Ultimately didn't matter, glad you made it out okay (if just barely).


Well,

I didn't actually leave after completing killer klown level, i went one more down.

This one was really bad. Iron dragon and hell sentinel hurt like crazy, so I blinked near portal, grabbed wand of heal wounds and left.

It gets this bad at floor 4...i wonder how much worse it is lower.

Ziggs are crazy stuff.
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Post Friday, 18th April 2014, 06:46

Re: I stepped into a ziggurat, help!

Lyrick wrote:Well,

I didn't actually leave after completing killer klown level, i went one more down.

This one was really bad. Iron dragon and hell sentinel hurt like crazy, so I blinked near portal, grabbed wand of heal wounds and left.

It gets this bad at floor 4...i wonder how much worse it is lower.

Ziggs are crazy stuff.


If really varies. In my own opinion, the worst ones are Electric Zigg (electric golems, storm dragons and a bunch of other things with rElec+++ and electric attacks shooting THROUGH each other); Holy Zig (Smiting, tons of good god wrath); Tomb Zig (if you don't have Necromut; the torment and death curses can be fatal. If you do...this is as easy as normal tomb is for the undead) and the infamous Pan Zig (multiple pandemonium lords; fiends, executioners...late Pan Zig floors can be 8-20 Pandemonium lords.]

On the other hand; the easiest is orc zig; 5-12 warlords, 15-20 knights, 5-10 high priests, 5-10 sorcerors, 150+ of the lesser orcs...a few iron trolls and a couple moths of wrath. [at worst it's like that, average is more 3-5 warlords and 100ish lesser orcs. All really easy to kill with a fire storm or two.]
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Post Friday, 18th April 2014, 06:48

Re: I stepped into a ziggurat, help!

Sandman25 wrote:Leave as soon as you feel uncomfortable.

This sounds good, but I don't think it is good advice. A Zig is totally unpredictable, it is possible that floor X is Lair monsters, nice and easy, but floor X+1 is mummies or Pan lords or Orbs of fire, with -ctele to spice things up.

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Post Friday, 18th April 2014, 06:55

Re: I stepped into a ziggurat, help!

One time I got an orb of fire on zig:2, along with some fiery popcorn.

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Post Friday, 18th April 2014, 07:50

Re: I stepped into a ziggurat, help!

What is "popcorn" in Crawl? :)
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Post Friday, 18th April 2014, 08:49

Re: I stepped into a ziggurat, help!

Here's the thing about Zig: the number of enemies increases by floor, but not necessarily the difficulty. In other words, Zig:5 is guaranteed to have MORE enemies than Zig:4, but not necessarily TOUGHER enemies. Zig:4 might be demons and Pandemonium lords, and then Zig:5 might be all orcs and ogres.

Because of that it's difficult to know whether you should keep moving forward or not. You might have a really rough time on one floor then have the next five floors be a total cake walk, and unfortunately if you do find yourself in over your head you might not be able to escape, especially since the entire Zig has the "no teleport control" feature on it.

What I can say is that you should only take on the deeper floors if you have a good crowd control ability. Freezing Cloud should help you out a bit there, but Glaciate would be preferable if you plan on using ice.
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Post Friday, 18th April 2014, 14:39

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GlassGo wrote:What is "popcorn" in Crawl? :)

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Post Friday, 18th April 2014, 16:06

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In all my time, I only did a Ziggurat once and I cannot recall. Can you go back into a Ziggurat? Do you have to start from the beginning? Do you only get one try?
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Post Friday, 18th April 2014, 16:38

Re: I stepped into a ziggurat, help!

Yeah, one time only.

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Post Friday, 18th April 2014, 16:56

Re: I stepped into a ziggurat, help!

Magipi wrote:
Sandman25 wrote:Leave as soon as you feel uncomfortable.

This sounds good, but I don't think it is good advice. A Zig is totally unpredictable, it is possible that floor X is Lair monsters, nice and easy, but floor X+1 is mummies or Pan lords or Orbs of fire, with -ctele to spice things up.


Yes, it's possible. I almost died on floor 3 once so I guess the best advice is "don't enter Zig". Similar to "Don't enter Hell/Pan/Abyss/Tomb/Elf".

Edit. And "don't enter D2", it can kill your character :)

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Post Friday, 18th April 2014, 17:05

Re: I stepped into a ziggurat, help!

If you've never beaten the game, I would just leave. You've already gotten some badass loot.

If you have beaten the game, but never gotten a 15 rune victory, I'd still leave. You wont be familiar with a lot of the enemies that you'll likely see if you haven't done areas like Pan/Hell/Tomb.

If you have gotten a 15 rune victory, I'd still leave. Zigs are best done when you're at XL27. You're asking for it at that level.

As dangerous as they are, Zigs are manageable with a character built for them. I remember my DEWz of Vehumet with Wucad Mu. Zig's are like tailor-made for that character. The only things I had to be careful on were Mummy floors because of death curses and Dwarf floors. The latter is easy as long as you don't just firestorm blindly. I cleared like 6 of them before I got bored and ascended.
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Post Friday, 18th April 2014, 17:06

Re: I stepped into a ziggurat, help!

Do not create a character. Odds are that character will die. Just play the tutorial.

Alternatively, just walk right back out the door on D1, guaranteed survival.

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Post Friday, 18th April 2014, 17:53

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damiac wrote:Do not create a character. Odds are that character will die. Just play the tutorial.

Alternatively, just walk right back out the door on D1, guaranteed survival.

It's look like it more related to our discussion, I get the joke.)
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Post Friday, 18th April 2014, 18:57

Re: I stepped into a ziggurat, help!

Well, he left the zig already, so there's nothing left to do but post silly stuff here.

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