CiP-NaWi looking for advice

[themadtoker]

http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/TheMa ... dToker.txt

Wondering if I am making the right choices so far. I'm on D7 and so far so good, just picked up a bunch of wands on D6 and have a question about my scrolls of enchant weapon, I have 2 of each (I and II) but only a normal long sword so far. Should I use them now or should I wait until I find a better long blade worth enchanting more? Not that melee combat is my primary method of execution, but i'm level 4 already and figure it can't hurt to have another way to kill things.

Just recently picked Vehumet as my god, seemed like the right choice. Mainly for the mana regen and the access to some hurty spells. Also how much skill do you need to make a blowgun useful? Is it hard to land a needle or two without any skill?

Any tips would be appreciated, I don't usually roll with a Naga, but the RNG gods determined it to be so and I went with it.

[tasonir]

I'll leave more mage-specific advice up to others, but one thing you should do is use manual training and focus on only 1-2 skills at a time. Right now you're kind of training everything, and that'll usually end up less efficient than more directly planning your development.

[themadtoker]

If a spell has multiple schools, will just training one of them be enough?

[tasonir]

it will average the spell schools, so if something is charms/air, and you have 3 charms and 7 air, you effectively have 5 for that spell. If it's low level, or you have very good int/wizardy, then you can probably train one, but it's always less experience, and generally best, to train both. You certainly don't have to train them equally, though.

[rchandra]

My quick rule of thumb is to get the spell level in each school skill, and then see if I want more.

[Magipi]

My quick rule of thumb is to get the spell level in each school skill, and then see if I want more.

This does not seem to work well. A level 9 spell will surely be at 100% failure if you have just 9 in the relevant magic schools.

[rchandra]

Let's consider situations that actually come up, in the context of training multiple schools:
I have 8 Charms as an OgNe, get Repel Missiles, pick up 2 Air. Probably enough.
I have 12 Conj/Air as a TeAE, get Poison cloud, get 6 Poison. Likely enough, depending on other spells - I'd probably just get more conj/air/spc if failure is still too high, to better help Lightning Bolt power.
I have 15 Fire as a DEFE, get Ring of Flames and 7 Charms. This will probably not be enough, I will get say 12 (plenty for Haste) and see how it looks then.
If I'm considering Fire Storm I almost certainly have 15-20 in both Fire and Conj already and this wouldn't apply.

Also note the second part of that "and then see if I want more". The point is to get the cheap levels for better success/power at minimal investment.

[themadtoker]

http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/TheMa ... dToker.txt

So, I'm on D9 and I have found the entrance to the Lair... Which is something I have 0 experience with. Am I strong enough to dive in? Gonna finish exploring D9 first, though.

Perhaps go back and recover my Enchant Weapon scrolls and use it on my long sword?

[vulsuck]

Well, lair is relatively easy. That said, there are monsters you have to be careful of like spiny frogs, black mambas, and hydras, and one of your most useful spells against most creatures (mephitic cloud) will not be effective against them.

I would definitely recommend following Tasonir's advice and focus on only 1 or 2 skills. I think you should choose to go towards earth or air based on your spell books and train only that skill until you can get LRD or lightning bolt online. Once you've done that, lair won't be much of a problem. Since you already have electricity resistance and it will help mephitic cloud, I would go with air.

Edit: You should also check to see if that cloak you are holding is better than +0, look for a helmet, and use any enchant armour scrolls you may have found on your auxilliary armour.

[themadtoker]

Thanks for the advice, well, here I go, wish me luck. I'm soooo close to descended past my record. That's all I want to accomplish

Should I enchant my long sword with my scrolls? Or wait until I get a better weapon?

[Lyrick]

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 * Level 4.4 Conjurations
 + Level 5.0 Summonings


No bueno.

Almost certainly you will want to be getting more conjurations. Go to skills, press the "/" key, and turn off everything except conjurations (at least, for a while).
Vehumet is *the* god for conjurations anyway. She will turn your naga into a machine gun of magical destruction, if you would only let her. If you wanted to go hybrid, I guess any god works but with Vehumet you definitely want to just turn things into fine mist.

Training everything makes you just a little good

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d - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       ##....       12%         2    None
e - Slow                  Hex            #.......     12%         2    None
i - Shock                 Conj/Air       ###.         2%          1    None
k - Stoneskin             Trmt/Erth      #.........   12%         2    None

Also no bueno. Most of these are kinda useless. Explaining may get tedious, but lets say you have better attack options available, ranged attackers are non-existent in Lair anyway, you don't want to be burning experience on Hexes yet, and you're betting that nothing will ever get into melee range of you.

Don't take the criticism badly, Lair is a *huge* milestone. When you finally clear Lair:8, you've probably gotten farther than 50% of crawlers ever have.

[Sar]

you're betting that nothing will ever get into melee range of you

Not that I advocate low-Earth Stoneskin (though it's probably better than nothing), but I always wonder when people post generalizing stuff like "you're a caster so you should never let things to melee you", what do they do when something does manage to get into melee range? Say "well, I did fuck up" and ctrl-q-yes?

Edit: also, fire drakes are a regular Lair spawn and there is that one Shoals entrance with centaurs, and I think I saw that altar vault with water and centaurs in Lair too.

[themadtoker]

Well I turned off all my skills except for air and conjurations, also left spellcasting on, mainly because I stupidly drank a mutation potion, which gave me more HP and less MP. And a nifty poison barb, which hasn't actually proven very useful.

So I'm hoping to regain some of the lost MP, I'm at 21MP right now and that isn't going to cut it.

[Lyrick]

you're betting that nothing will ever get into melee range of you

Not that I advocate low-Earth Stoneskin (though it's probably better than nothing), but I always wonder when people post generalizing stuff like "you're a caster so you should never let things to melee you", what do they do when something does manage to get into melee range? Say "well, I did fuck up" and ctrl-q-yes?

Edit: also, fire drakes are a regular Lair spawn and there is that one Shoals entrance with centaurs, and I think I saw that altar vault with water and centaurs in Lair too.

Well for the first question...you could choose to go Stoneskin, and proceed to invest spell slots and experience to make it worthwhile, at the cost of reducing your offense, or you could maximize your offense.

of course you should train your defences. of course you should be getting defensive spells. of course you should train a weapon skill, no matter how much you want to spam fire storms, because no matter what you do there's always a *chance* that something survives, or you run out of mp, or you are silenced, and then you are well and truly screwed. besides that, conjurations and more offensive firepower will give much greater returns at the moment than a (somewhat) piddly 3-4 AC. when you play casters you really are betting that nothing gets in melee range, but you will not always win that bet, and few things solve Lair better than bolts of fire.

also, well, fire drakes do spawn later in Lair, but i'd forgotten about the centaurs and co. RM is definitely pretty good at this point.

[Sar]

I don't think 3-4 AC is "piddly", I would be glad to find a ring with 4 AC that early and I would likely wear it for a very long time. I never learned Stoneskin without being a EE, though. I'm not sure it was a good idea for this character - then again, that's not how I would build a character like that, anyway.

when you play casters you really are betting that nothing gets in melee range

I really, really don't.

[Eyesburn]

Petrify, form the book of Geomancy, is realy nice spell, can be life saver in hairy situations. Some kind of area of effect spells are helpful for the Lair.

Should I enchant my long sword with my scrolls? Or wait until I get a better weapon?

If you ask me i wouldnt use enchant scrolls on +0,+0 long sword, save it for better (branded?) weapon.

when you play casters you really are betting that nothing gets in melee range

Something eventually will get into melee range with you. ^_^

[themadtoker]

Well haven't had a chance to play much, but I survived Lair 1 so far, managed to kill an 8-headed hydra and now am getting ready to descend into Lair 2.

And i've decided to go with earth over air, hope it's the right decision. Too late on the enchant weapon scrolls, I picked up a scimitar and said screw it, so now I have a +4, +2 scimitar.

Also picked up a wand of teleportation and I already have a ring of tele control, so that should come in handy.

EDIT: !#@#@ I'm down here with a ghost, got me good then I teleported away.

Update from the front line: I'm still down here with the ghost somewhere, I'm thinking of just fleeing to L3 but I'm trying to clear as much of L2 as i can first... got a baaaaad feeling about this...

...and now I'm surrounded by yaks, I fully expect that ghost to come wandering around the corner any second now

[themadtoker]

Aaaaaand DEAD

Dropped to L3 to flee the ghost and ran smack dab into a nest of blink frogs and green rats, in the wide open. Took a few out but was overwhelmed. Ah well. On the bright side I beat my reccord for both descent and score, so it wasn't a total wash. Also learned some valuable lessons.

[tasonir]

Those are the best kinds of games - there will be quite a few more before you make it all the way through, so make sure you count them as successes!

[arcanist]

I think Nawz is my favourite background - and i won pretty much of them.
I dont know what were your stats at the end, but there are some troubling thing in the dump you have provided from my perspective. I will write my coments assuming that you wanted conjurer style naga- if you wanted hybrid - disregard them
1. Defence. You have Short Blades, Long Blades, Slings and Dodging - and only 1 point of fighting. I would recommend to put all this experience to fighting since it has +0 aptitude and receives 20% bonus due to naga intristic - this would make you tankier
2. Offence. I would not recommend spreading your experience that early on. As a conjurer style character you want to concentrate on specific shools early on. I personally prefer fire/conj (and you already had firebolt available)- but you can take whatever you want. still, concentrationis is required - you would better have a specific goal and move to it rather then spreading your experience thin and being jack of all trades - master of none. Naga have neutral magic aptitudes which allow them to be competent spellcasters, but having no bónuses means that they need to make their decisions and stick to them. Also, I would propose to train poison up to 4 points due to the perfect aptitude - you dont want mephilic cloud to fail in stressful moment (14% failure is quite risky imho)
In my opinion conjure flame and mephilic cloud are your best friends early - you very first target should be to get them around 3% failure. I also train spellcasting to make them hungerless - but this is a personal preference. I would also say that air magic is the most dangerous choice on naga - it is very loud and end up with more problems then you solve.

- Level 1.0 Fighting
Level 1.5 Short Blades
- Level 5.6 Long Blades
- Level 1.1 Slings
- Level 0.3 Throwing
- Level 0.1 Armour
- Level 5.3 Dodging
- Level 3.0 Stealth
- Level 0.8 Shields
- Level 10.0 Spellcasting
* Level 6.0 Conjurations
- Level 0.2 Hexes
+ Level 5.0 Summonings
- Level 3.0 Translocations
- Level 0.4 Transmutations
- Level 1.4 Air Magic
+ Level 2.2 Earth Magic
- Level 3.5 Evocations

[arcanist]

when people post generalizing stuff like "you're a caster so you should never let things to melee you", what do they do when something does manage to get into melee range? Say "well, I did fuck up" and ctrl-q-yes?

NaWz have plenty of options to resolve if something end up in melee range to them - and this options can be magic only.
1. Mephilic cloud is the most obvious one - you can remove almost all poison vulnerable enemies in lair with mephilic cloud, poison spit and magic dart
2. when it comes to poison resistant enemies - you have your conjure flames. Spiny frogs will gladly burn themselves, as will hydras if you place yourself and flames correctly.
3. stair dancing and taking only one enemy at time is especially good with nagas due to the fact that they can withstand huge amount of beating because of their high HP.
So yes, you really can go on very well without any investment into any weapon skill on NaWz.

[Sar]

Meph is sort of loud and not many threats in Lair are affected by it (it also needs to pass a HD check), clouds require pre-planning, stair-dancing implies letting something into melee range. I don't think that clearing Lair with only starting Wz spells and without training melee is a good idea; I'm not sure I'll be even able to do that, especially on a Naga (slow 2). I remember clearing Lair with only imps and meph oncem but that was back when you could cover your entire screen in imps and let them murder pretty much anything; not an experience that is possible to repeat and not an experience I would want to repeat either.

[arcanist]

I don't think that clearing Lair with only starting Wz spells and without training melee is a good idea; I'm not sure I'll be even able to do that, especially on a Naga (slow 2).

normally Vehumet will give you something usefull - especially if you will train only spell schools. or you will find a book. or if the resistence is too high (say packs of death yaks are moving all around and you still have only lvl 3 spells) you can delve deeper into the dungeon or try first level of ork dungeon. This specific char, for example, did not have problem with access to spells - he already had firebolt available. the problem was, imho, the lack of specialisation.
anyway, i almost never train weapon skills on my NaWz before finishing the lair. fighting i like - but only as a very effective enlargement of health pool.

[Sar]

Veh piety doesn't require you to "only train spell schools" (or maybe you were implying that the more schools you have the better is the chance you will be able to use his gift immediately?), post-Lair Dungeon on average is worse than Lair and Orc:1 can spawn some very unpleasant things.

I often don't train melee skills until late L or maybe even deeper, but that doesn't stop me from meleeing things. Especially when I get constriction.

[arcanist]

i guess something like this would be quite a typical example of conjurer naga clearing the lair...
And perhapce I misunderstood Sar - i agree that you still need to melee things sometimes (my preferable position - from the cloud of flame). You just did not need melee skills that early on.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13.2 (tiles) character file.

DivineShadow the Thaumaturge (Naga Wizard)         Turns: 26824, Time: 01:45:31

HP 110/110       AC 11     Str  9      XL: 14   Next: 96%
MP  36/51        EV 10     Int 27 (29) God: Vehumet [*****.]
Gold 1292        SH  0     Dex 11      Spells: 10 memorised,  6 levels left

Res.Fire  : + . .   See Invis. : +   a - staff of power
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   i - +0 robe of Huaguyq {+Inv +Fly rF+ Dam+5}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   (no shield)
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : .   p - +2 wizard hat {Int+3}
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   X - +2 cloak
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   e - +0 pair of dwarf gloves
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   (no barding)
Res.Rott. : .       Flight     : .   (no amulet)
Saprovore : . . .                    x - +3 ring of intelligence
                                     I - +0,+9 ring of slaying

@: delayed fireball, very slow, quite resistant to hostile enchantments,
extremely stealthy
A: spit poison, constrict 1, see invisible, deformed body, poison resistance,
slowness 2, AC +4
a: Spit Poison, Renounce Religion, Release Delayed Fireball, Evoke Invisibility,
Evoke Flight


You are on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Vehumet.
Vehumet is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 17 of its levels.

You have collected 1272 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 k - a +3,+2 trident of piercing
Armour
 e - a +0 pair of dwarven gloves (worn)
 i - the +0 robe of Huaguyq (worn) {+Inv +Fly rF+ Dam+5}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+5).
   It protects you from fire.
   It lets you turn invisible.
   It lets you fly.
 p - a +2 wizard hat of intelligence (worn)
 X - a +2 cloak (worn)
Magical devices
 b - a wand of cold
 j - a wand of draining {zapped: 1}
 l - a wand of teleportation (5)
 v - a wand of cold {zapped: 2}
 w - a wand of fire {zapped: 8}
Comestibles
 c - a meat ration
 d - 10 bread rations
 s - 3 rotting chunks of spiny frog flesh
 z - 12 honeycombs
Scrolls
 f - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 r - 3 scrolls of identify
 t - 4 scrolls of teleportation
 y - a scroll of amnesia
 A - a scroll of magic mapping
Jewellery
 x - a +3 ring of intelligence (right hand)
 I - a +0,+9 ring of slaying (left hand)
Potions
 g - a potion of berserk rage
 h - a potion of invisibility
 m - 3 potions of speed
 n - a potion of agility
 o - 3 potions of heal wounds
 q - a potion of brilliance
 D - 11 potions of curing
 E - 2 potions of might
 N - 3 potions of restore abilities
 T - 2 potions of resistance
Books
 u - Qogeniov's Compendium of Icy Battle Magic
   (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Freezing Aura                      Charms/Ice                   2
   Throw Frost                        Conjuration/Ice              2
   Throw Icicle                       Conjuration/Ice              4
   Venom Bolt                         Conjuration/Poison           5
Magical staves
 a - an uncursed staff of power (weapon)


   Skills:
 - Level 5.2 Fighting
 - Level 1.5 Dodging
 - Level 10.1 Stealth
 * Level 13.9 Spellcasting
 + Level 13.4 Conjurations
 - Level 5.2 Charms
   Level 1.0 Summonings
 - Level 1.0 Translocations
 + Level 12.0 Fire Magic
 - Level 3.0 Earth Magic
 - Level 4.0 Poison Magic


You have 6 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Magic Dart            Conj           ####         0%          1    None
b - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          3%          2    None
c - Conjure Flame         Conj/Fire      ######..     1%          3    None
d - Mephitic Cloud        Conj/Pois/Air  ######..     1%          3    None
e - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       ####......   1%          2    None
f - Delayed Fireball      Conj/Fire      N/A          4%          7    ######.
g - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ####......   2%          3    None
s - Bolt of Magma         Conj/Fire/Erth ######....   1%          5    None
w - Sticky Flame          Conj/Fire      ######..     1%          4    None
x - Iskenderun's Battles  Conj/Chrm      ######..     1%          4    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (8/27)             Temple (1/1) D:6             Orc (0/4) D:8
   Lair (8/8) D:8          Shoals (0/5) Lair:4       Spider (0/5) Lair:6
  Slime (0/6) Lair:8     

Altars:
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Trog
Vehumet
the Shining One

Shops:
D:8 [/

Annotations:
Lair:3 exclusion: oklob plant


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear boots.
You can spit poison.
You can use your snake-like lower body to constrict enemies.
Your serpentine skin is tough (AC +4).
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.
Your system is resistant to poisons.
You cover ground very slowly.


Message History

Found 37 gold pieces.
You now have 1024 gold pieces (gained 9).
You now have 1046 gold pieces (gained 22).
You now have 1063 gold pieces (gained 17).
You now have 1084 gold pieces (gained 21).
You now have 1092 gold pieces (gained 8).
You now have 1111 gold pieces (gained 19).
You now have 1143 gold pieces (gained 32).
HP restored.
You now have 1169 gold pieces (gained 26).
You smell something rotten. (slot s)
You now have 1179 gold pieces (gained 10).
You now have 1204 gold pieces (gained 25).
You now have 1221 gold pieces (gained 17).
You now have 1235 gold pieces (gained 14).
You now have 1240 gold pieces (gained 5).
You now have 1261 gold pieces (gained 21).
You now have 1277 gold pieces (gained 16).
You now have 1292 gold pieces (gained 15).
Done exploring.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Gastronok (Lair:2)
  The ghost of Devashura the Thaumaturge, a powerful NaWz of Nemelex Xobeh (Lair:7)
  A dragon (Lair:8)
  6 hydras
  4 death yaks
  2 lindwurms (Lair:8)
  2 griffons
  7 spiny worms (Lair:8)
  37 elephants
  6 black mambas
  Maurice (D:8)
  18 spiny frogs
  2 feature mimics
  3 fire drakes
  4 giant fireflies (Lair:8)
  8 komodo dragons
  6 polar bears (Lair:8)
  10 blink frogs
  3 giant leeches (Lair:8)
  3 basilisks
  11 grizzly bears (Lair:8)
  A slime creature (Lair:8)
  A redback (Lair:5)
  An elephant slug (Lair:8)
  A trapdoor spider (Lair:6)
  A hungry ghost (D:8)
  26 yaks
  A deep elf fighter (D:8)
  5 hippogriffs
  5 rock worms (Lair:8)
  A necrophage (D:7)
  9 wolves
  7 porcupines
  A sky beast (D:8)
  5 black bears (Lair:8)
  4 ice beasts
  4 centaurs
  4 ogres
  A phantom (D:8)
  A yellow wasp (D:8)
  2 boring beetles
  4 orc warriors
  14 crocodiles
  3 brain worms (Lair:8)
  7 giant slugs
  Blork the orc (D:6)
  12 giant frogs
  13 water moccasins
  3 agate snails (Lair:7)
  A manticore skeleton (D:8)
  13 wights
  2 hippogriff skeletons
  A jelly (D:8)
  4 crimson imps
  2 scorpions
  A water moccasin zombie (D:5)
  6 iguanas
  9 hounds
  4 orc priests
  10 orc wizards
  An ogre zombie (D:6)
  6 worker ants
  2 ogre skeletons (D:7)
  A worker ant zombie (D:8)
  16 adders
  A giant centipede (Lair:1)
  A steam dragon skeleton (D:8)
  74 green rats
  2 giant mites
  An inept feature mimic (D:3)
  22 worms
  A giant centipede zombie (D:8)
  2 giant eyeballs
  14 giant geckos
  35 orcs
  9 giant cockroaches
  9 goblins
  11 hobgoblins
  13 jackals
  15 kobolds
  10 quokkas
  2 ball pythons
  29 bats
  8 giant newts
  A hobgoblin zombie (D:8)
  An orc zombie (D:5)
  41 rats
  10 ballistomycetes (D:7)
  3 fungi
  2 plants (Lair:8)
670 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A giant spore (D:7)
  A kobold (D:7)
  A rat (D:7)
  8 fungi
  22 plants
33 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 703 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | DivineShadow, the Naga Wizard, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 5/5
   227 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 20/20 MP: 0/7
   918 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/26 MP: 5/9
   934 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
   938 | D:1      | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
  1297 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 33/33 MP: 7/11
  1619 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Conjurations
  1646 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
  1678 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic
  2298 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 17/39 MP: 8/12
  2991 | D:3      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  2998 | D:3      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  2998 | D:3      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  2998 | D:3      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  3038 | D:3      | Became a worshipper of Vehumet
  3964 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 46/46 MP: 9/14
  4122 | D:4      | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic
  4363 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4425 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  4591 | D:5      | Acquired Vehumet's first power
  4591 | D:5      | Offered knowledge of Sandblast by Vehumet.
  4671 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 46/52 MP: 8/16
  4750 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Conjurations
  4913 | D:5      | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
  5604 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  5613 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 60/60 MP: 12/20
  5774 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5797 | D:6      | Noticed Blork the orc
  5809 | D:6      | Killed Blork the orc
  5895 | D:6      | Offered knowledge of Freeze by Vehumet.
  5916 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  6185 | D:6      | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting
  6815 | D:7      | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting
  6883 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 48/66 MP: 20/25
  7406 | D:7      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
  7410 | D:7      | Offered knowledge of Stone Arrow by Vehumet.
  7628 | D:7      | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting
  7757 | D:7      | Acquired Vehumet's second power
  8388 | D:8      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
  8488 | D:8      | Offered knowledge of Sticky Flame by Vehumet.
  8624 | D:8      | Learned a level 5 spell: Bolt of Magma
  9038 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 73/73 MP: 19/27
  9099 | D:8      | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
  9118 | D:8      | Acquired Vehumet's third power
  9158 | D:8      | Noticed Maurice
  9183 | D:8      | Killed Maurice
  9183 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic
  9284 | D:8      | Offered knowledge of Fireball by Vehumet.
  9429 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic
  9746 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 10003 | D:8      | Found Utoclay's Armour Shop.
 10003 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 10159 | D:8      | Found Zexoif's Magical Wand Shop.
 10602 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 11058 | Lair:1   | Got a faintly humming robe
 11065 | Lair:1   | Identified the +0 robe of Huaguyq {+Inv +Fly rF+ Dam+5} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
 11585 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 12555 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 79/79 MP: 25/29
 12672 | Lair:2   | Noticed a black mamba
 12838 | Lair:2   | Noticed a black mamba
 13007 | Lair:2   | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Battlesphere by Vehumet.
 13025 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting
 13032 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
 13325 | Lair:2   | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame
 13330 | Lair:2   | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Battlesphere
 13522 | Lair:2   | Killed a black mamba
 13547 | Lair:2   | Killed a black mamba
 14123 | Lair:2   | Noticed Gastronok
 14529 | Lair:2   | Killed Gastronok
 15363 | Lair:3   | Got a polished bow
 15364 | Lair:3   | Identified the bow of Slime {velocity, Dex+3} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 15846 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
 16060 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 65/90 MP: 27/31
 17061 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 17063 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 17987 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting
 18330 | Lair:5   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 18392 | Lair:5   | the hole to the Spider Nest was a mimic.
 18707 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting
 19260 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 102/102 MP: 33/33
 19923 | Lair:6   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 19951 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
 20649 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 21437 | Lair:7   | Noticed Devashura's ghost (powerful NaWz)
 21447 | Lair:7   | Killed Devashura's ghost
 21447 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic
 21667 | Lair:7   | Offered knowledge of Delayed Fireball by Vehumet.
 21676 | Lair:7   | Learned a level 7 spell: Delayed Fireball
 22993 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 23058 | Lair:8   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 110/110 MP: 34/34
 23060 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
 23390 | Lair:8   | Identified Qogeniov's Compendium of Icy Battle Magic
 23393 | Lair:8   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 23808 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
 25620 | Lair:8   | Offered knowledge of Lee's Rapid Deconstruction by Vehumet.


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Mace              |     3 |       |       |       |       ||     3
       Glaive            |       |    15 |   223 |    99 |       ||   337
       Staff             |       |       |     3 |    20 |    47 ||    70
       Trident           |       |       |       |    41 |     5 ||    46
 Fire: Crossbow          |       |       |    20 |       |       ||    20
       Bow               |       |       |    17 |       |       ||    17
Throw: Dart              |       |       |     4 |       |       ||     4
 Cast: Magic Dart        |    67 |   170 |   278 |   509 |   145 ||  1169
       Mephitic Cloud    |       |     6 |    18 |    28 |     2 ||    54
       Conjure Flame     |       |     1 |    35 |    35 |     1 ||    72
       Repel Missiles    |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Blink             |       |       |     7 |    14 |     1 ||    22
       Bolt of Magma     |       |       |       |    50 |   265 ||   315
       Sticky Flame      |       |       |       |    17 |     4 ||    21
       Iskenderun's Batt |       |       |       |    36 |    59 ||    95
       Regeneration      |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
       Delayed Fireball  |       |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
 Abil: Spit Poison       |     6 |    17 |    36 |    44 |     1 ||   104
       Release Delayed F |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |     1 |       |    14 |     4 ||    19
  Use: Scroll            |       |       |       |    25 |    12 ||    37
       Potion            |       |       |       |     6 |       ||     6
 Stab: Confused          |       |     1 |     3 |     5 |       ||     9



[Sar]

EV 10, whyyyyy.
So much slaying, though. This character will annihilate things in melee with any decent weapon once you decide to get to it.

Edit: also, too much Spc for my taste, too much Conj and a spell I pretty much never use (delayed Fball). Well, and I find staff of power to be a bit useless.

[damiac]

EV 10, whyyyyy.
So much slaying, though. This character will annihilate things in melee with any decent weapon once you decide to get to it.

Edit: also, too much Spc for my taste, too much Conj and a spell I pretty much never use (delayed Fball). Well, and I find staff of power to be a bit useless.

Could you explain what you meant? Too little EV I assume?
If you could, what would you switch that conj and spc experience into instead?

[Sar]

Well 10 EV is what your average Naga starts with, so yeah, I wasn't complaining about it being too high.
I'd probably get more Dodging (something like 15-16 EV is doable on a Naga) and Fighting.

[themadtoker]

Great advice guys, running a DsSu now. Also got a newbie forum question... how do I use the [code][/code] commands to put my char file in a post like you guys do?

EDIT: And a question about demonspawn mutations, if I get say, spikes 1, am I guaranteed to also gets spikes 2, etc. eventually? Or perhaps a better chance than normal? Or is it totally random?

[vulsuck]

Great advice guys, running a DsSu now. Also got a newbie forum question... how do I use the [code][/code] commands to put my char file in a post like you guys do?

There's a code button when you make a post that will automatically create code tags and you can put whatever you like in there.

EDIT: And a question about demonspawn mutations, if I get say, spikes 1, am I guaranteed to also gets spikes 2, etc. eventually? Or perhaps a better chance than normal? Or is it totally random?

By 27 you are guaranteed to get spikes 3 if you get spikes 1 from being a demonspawn.

[Berlioz]

Great advice guys, running a DsSu now. Also got a newbie forum question... how do I use the [code][/code] commands to put my char file in a post like you guys do?

It's really straight forward, you need your character file from the crawl directory, which is usually in the morgue folder and is named character_name.txt. (For example if you have linux it is in ~/.crawl/morgue.) Just copy the content and put it right between the code tags. If you are playing online the server should give you the file.

[themadtoker]

  Code:

 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-93-g5185eb4 (webtiles) character file.

TheMadToker the Caller (Demonspawn Summoner)        Turns: 3575, Time: 01:10:47

HP  41/41        AC  7     Str  8      XL: 6   Next: 53%
MP  13/13        EV  9     Int 19      God: Sif Muna [......]
Gold 99          SH  0     Dex 13      Spells:  3 memorised,  6 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis +     D - +0,+1 cutlass
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     h - +1 ring mail
rNeg   . . .     Conserve .     (no shield)
rPois  .         rCorr    .     (no helmet)
rElec  .         rRot     .     (no cloak)
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     l - +0 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Warding  .     (no boots)
Saprov . . .     Stasis   .     (no amulet)
MR     .....                    n - ring of see invisible
                                e - ring of regeneration

@: not resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy
A: talons 1, spiny 1
a: Renounce Religion


You are in the Ecumenical Temple.
You worship Sif Muna.
Sif Muna is noncommittal.
You are very hungry.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 6 of its levels.

You have collected 99 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 f - a sling
 g - a hand axe
 k - a +0,+0 dagger
 m - a +2,+2 short sword
 D - a +0,+1 cutlass (weapon)
Missiles
 u - 33 stones (quivered)
Armour
 a - a +0 robe
 h - a +1 ring mail (worn)
 l - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 v - a shield
Magical devices
 p - a wand of flame {zapped: 4}
 r - a wand of magic darts {zapped: 1}
 s - a wand of frost {zapped: 1}
 y - a wand of fire {zapped: 1}
Comestibles
 c - 2 bread rations
 j - a choko
Scrolls
 d - 3 scrolls of teleportation
 B - 2 scrolls of identify
 F - a scroll of amnesia
Jewellery
 e - a ring of regeneration (left hand)
 n - a ring of see invisible (right hand)
Potions
 i - an inky potion
 o - a potion of curing
 q - a potion of resistance
 t - 3 potions of heal wounds
 z - a black potion
 C - a gluggy brown potion
 E - a fizzy pink potion
Books
 b - a book of Callings   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Summon Small Mammal               Summoning                    1
   *Call Imp                          Summoning                    2
   *Call Canine Familiar              Summoning                    3
   Summon Guardian Golem              Hexes/Summoning              4
   Summon Lightning Spire             Summoning/Air                4
   Summon Ice Beast                   Ice/Summoning                4


   Skills:
 * Level 1.9 Short Blades
 + Level 2.8 Dodging
 - Level 1.7 Stealth
 + Level 3.6 Spellcasting
 * Level 6.1 Summonings
 + Level 0.2 Evocations


You have 6 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Summon Small Mammal   Summ           ####         2%          1    None
b - Call Imp              Summ           ####....     4%          2    ##.....
c - Call Canine Familiar  Summ           ####....     10%         3    ###....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (5/15)             Temple (1/1) D:4         

Altars:
Ashenzari
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have sharp toenails.
You are partially covered in sharp spines.


Message History

There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
Found a bloodstained altar of Trog and a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
There is an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha here.
Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
There is a bloodstained altar of Trog here.
Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
There is a burning altar of Makhleb here.
There is a glowing golden altar of the Shining One here.
Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
There is an iron altar of Okawaru here.
There is a basalt altar of Yredelemnul here.
Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
There is a glowing silver altar of Zin here.
Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
There is a deep blue altar of Sif Muna here.
Put on which piece of jewellery? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
You kneel at the altar of Sif Muna.
Sif Muna welcomes you!

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  A hound (D:3)
  2 orc wizards
  An iguana (D:4)
  Ijyb (D:3)
  3 adders (D:2)
  A worm (D:2)
  A giant gecko (D:3)
  3 orcs (D:3)
  6 bats
  A giant cockroach (D:2)
  A hobgoblin (D:3)
  2 quokkas (D:2)
  A ball python (D:2)
  A giant newt (D:4)
  5 goblins
  A kobold (D:3)
  5 rats
36 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  2 ogres (D:4)
  3 orc priests (D:3)
  An orc wizard (D:3)
  A worker ant (D:4)
  2 adders (D:3)
  A worm (D:3)
  A giant gecko (D:1)
  9 orcs
  A ball python (D:1)
  4 bats
  3 giant cockroaches
  7 goblins
  8 hobgoblins
  6 kobolds
  A quokka (D:2)
  3 giant newts
  3 rats
56 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A hound (D:4)
  A crimson imp (D:3)
  3 white imps
  A shadow imp (D:3)
  13 bats
  11 quokkas
  11 rats
41 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 133 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | TheMadToker, the Demonspawn Summoner, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 3/3
   300 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in sharp spines. [demonic ancestry]
   300 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 5/19 MP: 1/4
  1047 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 20/24 MP: 4/6
  1053 | D:2      | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp
  1057 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Call Canine Familiar
  1155 | D:2      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  1594 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
  1594 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 23/30 MP: 1/8
  1865 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings
  2002 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 33/35 MP: 9/9
  2089 | D:3      | Noticed Ijyb
  2271 | D:3      | Killed Ijyb
  2954 | D:4      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  3061 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  3070 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  3070 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You have sharp toenails. [demonic ancestry]
  3070 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 41/41 MP: 7/13
  3179 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3234 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  3246 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  3246 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Summonings
  3522 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3527 | D:4      | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-86-gda4a099 to 0.15-a0-93-g5185eb4
  3528 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  3574 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Sif Muna the Loreminder


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |     7 |       ||     7
       Short sword       |    22 |    57 ||    79
       Dagger            |     1 |       ||     1
       Cutlass           |       |     6 ||     6
 Cast: Summon Small Mamm |    75 |    39 ||   114
       Call Imp          |     2 |    36 ||    38
       Call Canine Famil |       |    10 ||    10
Evoke: Wand              |       |     7 ||     7
  Use: Scroll            |     3 |     8 ||    11
       Potion            |       |     2 ||     2
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |       ||     1
       Distracted        |       |     1 ||     1


Sweet. Well here is my current CiP

[themadtoker]

And here I am again... on D9 at the entrance to the Lair. My DsSu is armed with a buttload of wands and an army of summons. How is this current character looking? Any tips?

  Code:

TheMadToker the Summoner (Demonspawn Summoner)      Turns: 7064, Time: 02:20:45

HP  57/57        AC  5     Str  9      XL: 9   Next: 22%
MP  24/24        EV 13     Int 20      God: Sif Muna [***...]
Gold 87          SH  0     Dex 13      Spells:  7 memorised,  0 levels left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis +     L - +1 dagger (chaos)
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     t - +1 robe {MR+}
rNeg   . . .     Conserve .     (no shield)
rPois  .         rCorr    .     N - +0 helmet
rElec  .         rRot     .     (no cloak)
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     l - +0 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Warding  .     (no boots)
Saprov . . .     Stasis   .     (no amulet)
MR     +....                    n - ring of see invisible
                                e - ring of regeneration

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy
A: talons 2, spiny 2
a: Channel Energy, Forget Spell, Renounce Religion


You are on level 9 of the Dungeon.
You worship Sif Muna.
Sif Muna is most pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 10 of its levels.

You have collected 418 gold pieces.
You have spent 331 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 D - a +1,+1 cutlass
 L - a +1,+1 dagger of chaos (weapon)
Missiles
 u - 33 stones
 w - 3 javelins (quivered)
Armour
 f - a +1 leather armour
 h - a +1 ring mail
 l - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 t - a +1 robe of magic resistance (worn)
 v - a shield
 N - a +0 helmet (worn)
Magical devices
 k - a wand of polymorph {zapped: 1}
 p - a wand of flame {empty}
 r - a wand of magic darts {zapped: 3}
 s - a wand of frost {zapped: 2}
 y - a wand of fire {zapped: 4}
 A - a wand of confusion (10)
 H - a wand of fire {zapped: 1}
 I - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 2}
 J - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 1}
 P - a wand of magic darts (17)
 Q - a wand of flame (10)
Comestibles
 g - a meat ration
 M - 9 sultanas
Scrolls
 d - 4 scrolls of teleportation
 j - 6 scrolls of remove curse
 B - 3 scrolls of identify
 F - 2 scrolls of amnesia
 K - a scroll of magic mapping
 O - a scroll of enchant weapon II
Jewellery
 e - a ring of regeneration (left hand)
 m - an amulet of rage
 n - a ring of see invisible (right hand)
Potions
 i - 2 potions of haste
 o - 4 potions of curing
 q - a potion of resistance
 x - a yellow potion
 z - 2 potions of might
 C - a gluggy brown potion
 E - a fizzy pink potion
 G - a potion of lignification
Books
 a - a book of Wizardry   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Summon Elemental                  Summoning                    4
   Agony                              Necromancy                   5
   Force Lance                        Conjuration                  5
   Haste                              Charms                       6
   Invisibility                       Hexes                        6
   Spellforged Servitor               Conjuration/Summoning        7
 b - a book of Callings   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Summon Small Mammal               Summoning                    1
   *Call Imp                          Summoning                    2
   *Call Canine Familiar              Summoning                    3
   *Summon Guardian Golem             Hexes/Summoning              4
   *Summon Lightning Spire            Summoning/Air                4
   *Summon Ice Beast                  Ice/Summoning                4


   Skills:
 + Level 2.9 Short Blades
 - Level 3.2 Dodging
 - Level 1.7 Stealth
 + Level 7.1 Spellcasting
 + Level 0.2 Hexes
 * Level 9.2 Summonings
 - Level 0.8 Air Magic
 * Level 2.3 Evocations


You cannot memorise any spells.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Summon Small Mammal   Summ           ####         1%          1    None
b - Call Imp              Summ           #####...     1%          2    None
c - Call Canine Familiar  Summ           #####...     1%          3    #......
d - Summon Elemental      Summ           #####.....   1%          4    ###....
e - Summon Guardian Gole  Hex/Summ       ####....     14%         4    ###....
f - Summon Lightning Spi  Summ/Air       ####....     14%         4    ###....
g - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       ####....     17%         4    ###....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (9/15)             Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (0/8) D:9
   Orc: D:9-12     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:5 }   D:9 }[


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have razor-sharp toenails.
You are mostly covered in sharp spines.


Message History

You feel sick. The worker ant barely misses you.
Your crimson imp hits the worker ant but does no damage.
You closely miss the worker ant.
You claw the worker ant, but do no damage.
The worker ant is heavily wounded.
You feel sick. The worker ant bites you. The worker ant barely misses you.
Your crimson imp blinks!
You hit the worker ant. You drain the worker ant! You claw the worker ant.
You kill the worker ant!
Your crimson imp disappears in a puff of smoke!
You feel sick.
You feel sick.
You feel sick.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
You start resting. You feel sick.
You feel sick. x8
You are no longer poisoned.
You start resting.
HP restored.
There is a staircase to the Lair here.

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  ###.
 ##...#
 ......#   ####
#.......####5@#
........>....#########
.#######..#..........
       #....######.##
       #............#
       #...#######..##.#######
       #.###     #..##........
       #.#       #5.##### ##..
       #.#       #......# #..#


You can see a friendly crimson imp.

Vanquished Creatures
  Pikel (D:6)
  A gargoyle (D:8)
  An air elemental (D:9)
  2 ice beasts (D:8)
  A black bear (D:7)
  3 phantoms
  2 crimson imps
  A hound (D:3)
  3 orc wizards
  2 worker ants (D:9)
  3 iguanas
  Ijyb (D:3)
  5 adders
  3 worms
  A giant gecko (D:3)
  5 orcs
  8 bats
  A giant cockroach (D:2)
  2 hobgoblins
  2 quokkas (D:2)
  A ball python (D:2)
  A giant newt (D:4)
  7 goblins
  A kobold (D:3)
  6 rats
  A plant (D:5)
65 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Psyche (D:8)
  A hungry ghost (D:7)
  An orc warrior (D:8)
  A black bear (D:6)
  3 ogres
  A scorpion (D:7)
  A wyvern skeleton (D:7)
  3 wights (D:8)
  A yak skeleton (D:9)
  A goliath beetle (D:7)
  2 crimson imps
  A quasit (D:8)
  A hound (D:7)
  2 giant frog zombies
  4 orc priests
  A jelly (D:9)
  6 orc wizards
  3 worker ants
  A worker ant zombie (D:6)
  4 adders
  An inept feature mimic (D:5)
  2 worms
  A giant gecko (D:1)
  23 orcs
  A ball python (D:1)
  5 bats
  4 giant cockroaches
  8 goblins
  12 hobgoblins
  6 kobolds
  A quokka (D:2)
  A ball python zombie (D:5)
  A giant gecko zombie (D:5)
  6 giant newts
  A kobold skeleton (D:6)
  4 rats
  A rat zombie (D:5)
  A plant (D:5)
118 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  2 slaves (D:6)
  9 hounds
  4 crimson imps
  An orc wizard (D:6)
  Natasha (thrice) (D:6)
  A lightning spire (D:8)
  An adder (D:6)
  6 white imps
  3 shadow imps
  13 bats
  11 quokkas
  11 rats
65 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 248 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | TheMadToker, the Demonspawn Summoner, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 3/3
   300 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in sharp spines. [demonic ancestry]
   300 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 5/19 MP: 1/4
  1047 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 20/24 MP: 4/6
  1053 | D:2      | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp
  1057 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Call Canine Familiar
  1155 | D:2      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  1594 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
  1594 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 23/30 MP: 1/8
  1865 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings
  2002 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 33/35 MP: 9/9
  2089 | D:3      | Noticed Ijyb
  2271 | D:3      | Killed Ijyb
  2954 | D:4      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  3061 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  3070 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  3070 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You have sharp toenails. [demonic ancestry]
  3070 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 41/41 MP: 7/13
  3179 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3234 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  3246 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  3246 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Summonings
  3522 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3527 | D:4      | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-86-gda4a099 to 0.15-a0-93-g5185eb4
  3528 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  3574 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Sif Muna the Loreminder
  4031 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 34/46 MP: 6/17
  4075 | D:5      | Found Akhuonuh's Gadget Shop.
  4100 | D:5      | Bought a wand of confusion (13) for 156 gold pieces
  4641 | D:6      | Noticed Pikel
  4678 | D:6      | Killed Pikel
  4678 | D:6      | Acquired Sif Muna's first power
  4678 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  4755 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You are mostly covered in sharp spines. [demonic ancestry]
  4755 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 47/52 MP: 12/20
  4799 | D:6      | Reached skill level 7 in Summonings
  4891 | D:7      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  4918 | D:6      | Killed Natasha
  4975 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Elemental
  4978 | D:6      | Killed Natasha
  4993 | D:6      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  5012 | D:6      | Killed Natasha
  5031 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Guardian Golem
  5036 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Lightning Spire
  5788 | D:7      | Acquired Sif Muna's second power
  6198 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  6317 | D:8      | Reached skill level 8 in Summonings
  6417 | D:8      | Noticed a gargoyle
  6449 | D:8      | Killed a gargoyle
  6449 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You have razor-sharp toenails. [demonic ancestry]
  6449 | D:8      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 12/57 MP: 1/23
  6465 | D:8      | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Ice Beast
  6588 | D:8      | Noticed Psyche
  6605 | D:8      | Killed Psyche
  6605 | D:8      | Reached skill level 9 in Summonings
  6750 | D:9      | Found Ownaot's Gadget Shoppe.
  6753 | D:9      | Bought a wand of magic darts (17) for 85 gold pieces
  6753 | D:9      | Bought a wand of flame (10) for 90 gold pieces
  6907 | D:9      | Found Evvianus' Armour Shoppe.
  6927 | D:9      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  7007 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Lair.


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |     7 |       |       ||     7
       Short sword       |    22 |    57 |       ||    79
       Dagger            |     1 |       |    17 ||    18
       Cutlass           |       |    91 |    93 ||   184
Throw: Javelin           |       |       |     3 ||     3
 Cast: Summon Small Mamm |    75 |    41 |       ||   116
       Call Imp          |     2 |    46 |    70 ||   118
       Call Canine Famil |       |    14 |    30 ||    44
       Summon Lightning  |       |       |    10 ||    10
       Summon Guardian G |       |       |     1 ||     1
       Summon Elemental  |       |       |     1 ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |     7 |    15 ||    22
  Use: Scroll            |     3 |     8 |     4 ||    15
       Potion            |       |     2 |     3 ||     5
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Distracted        |       |     1 |     1 ||     2


[tedric]

I don't like using chaos weapons due to the chance of the enemy becoming hasted/invisible/berserk/polymorphed into something scarier/etc.

Use ice beast a lot, its attacks will slow lots of cold-blooded Lair enemies and also hurt them lots.

[themadtoker]

I don't like using chaos weapons due to the chance of the enemy becoming hasted/invisible/berserk/polymorphed into something scarier/etc.

Use ice beast a lot, its attacks will slow lots of cold-blooded Lair enemies and also hurt them lots.

Yeah I learned that the hard way, I switched over to my +1 Cutlass. Descending Lair now.

[themadtoker]

Well made it to L3 and am still in pretty good shape. My arsenal of wands keeps holding out, also picked up some magic books so now I have undead to add to my summoned armies. Found a lantern of shadows, what's the best use for this thing?

Obligatory char dump:

  Code:

TheMadToker the Summoner (Demonspawn Summoner)      Turns: 9919, Time: 03:54:13

HP  63/63        AC  6     Str  9      XL: 10   Next: 47%
MP  24/27        EV 13     Int 20      God: Sif Muna [*****.]
Gold 107         SH  0     Dex 13      Spells:  9 memorised,  1 level left

rFire  . . .     SeeInvis +     D - +2 cutlass
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     t - +1 robe {MR+}
rNeg   . . .     Conserve .     (no shield)
rPois  .         rCorr    .     N - +0 helmet
rElec  .         rRot     .     G - +0 cloak
SustAb . .       Spirit   .     l - +0 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Warding  .     (no boots)
Saprov . . .     Stasis   .     (no amulet)
MR     +....                    n - ring of see invisible
                                e - ring of regeneration

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy
A: talons 2, spiny 2
a: Channel Energy, Forget Spell, Renounce Religion


You are on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Sif Muna.
Sif Muna is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 14 of its levels.

You have collected 546 gold pieces.
You have spent 439 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 x - a blowgun
 D - a +2,+2 cutlass (weapon)
Missiles
 E - 6 poisoned darts (quivered)
Armour
 h - a +1 ring mail
 l - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 t - a +1 robe of magic resistance (worn)
 v - a shield
 G - a +0 cloak (worn)
 N - a +0 helmet (worn)
Magical devices
 k - a wand of polymorph {zapped: 1}
 s - a wand of frost {zapped: 6}
 w - a wand of digging {zapped: 1}
 y - a wand of fire {empty}
 A - a wand of confusion (8)
 I - a wand of disintegration {zapped: 3}
 J - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 1}
 P - a wand of magic darts (16)
 Q - a wand of flame (7)
Comestibles
 c - 2 bread rations
 g - a meat ration
 p - a honeycomb
 L - a beef jerky
 M - 22 sultanas
Scrolls
 d - 4 scrolls of teleportation
 j - 8 scrolls of remove curse
 B - a scroll of identify
 F - a scroll of amnesia
 K - a scroll of magic mapping
 R - 2 scrolls labeled CEUCOISORIV
 S - a scroll labeled KLUDUT TIRI
Jewellery
 e - a ring of regeneration (left hand)
 m - an amulet of rage
 n - a ring of see invisible (right hand)
Potions
 f - a potion of brilliance
 i - 3 potions of haste
 o - 6 potions of curing
 q - a potion of resistance
 r - 2 potions of porridge
 z - 2 potions of might
 T - a potion of restore abilities
Books
 a - a book of Wizardry   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Summon Elemental                  Summoning                    4
   Agony                              Necromancy                   5
   Force Lance                        Conjuration                  5
   Haste                              Charms                       6
   Invisibility                       Hexes                        6
   Spellforged Servitor               Conjuration/Summoning        7
 b - a book of Callings   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Summon Small Mammal                Summoning                    1
   *Call Imp                          Summoning                    2
   *Call Canine Familiar              Summoning                    3
   *Summon Guardian Golem             Hexes/Summoning              4
   *Summon Lightning Spire            Summoning/Air                4
   *Summon Ice Beast                  Ice/Summoning                4
 C - a book of Minor Magic   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Magic Dart                        Conjuration                  1
   *Blink                             Translocation                2
   *Call Imp                          Summoning                    2
   Repel Missiles                     Charms/Air                   2
   Slow                               Hexes                        2
   Conjure Flame                      Conjuration/Fire             3
   Mephitic Cloud                     Conjuration/Poison/Air       3
 U - a book of Necromancy   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Pain                               Necromancy                   1
   *Animate Skeleton                  Necromancy                   1
   Lethal Infusion                    Charms/Necromancy            2
   Vampiric Draining                  Necromancy                   3
   Regeneration                       Charms/Necromancy            3
   Animate Dead                       Necromancy                   4
   Control Undead                     Necromancy                   4
Miscellaneous
 u - a lantern of shadows


   Skills:
 + Level 3.2 Short Blades
 + Level 3.9 Dodging
 - Level 1.7 Stealth
 + Level 8.7 Spellcasting
 + Level 1.2 Conjurations
 - Level 0.2 Hexes
 + Level 11.1 Summonings
 * Level 1.0 Necromancy
 - Level 0.6 Translocations
 - Level 0.8 Air Magic
 + Level 4.2 Evocations


You have one spell level left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Animate Skeleton      Necr           N/A          6%          1    None
b - Call Imp              Summ           ######..     1%          2    None
c - Call Canine Familiar  Summ           ######..     1%          3    None
d - Summon Elemental      Summ           ######....   1%          4    ###....
e - Summon Guardian Gole  Hex/Summ       ####....     10%         4    ###....
f - Summon Lightning Spi  Summ/Air       ####....     10%         4    ###....
g - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       ####....     10%         4    ###....
h - Magic Dart            Conj           ##..         6%          1    None
i - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          12%         2    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (10/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (3/8) D:9
   Orc: D:9-12       Swamp: Lair:3-6    Shoals: Lair:3-6     Snake: Lair:3-6
Spider: Lair:3-6   

Altars:
Ashenzari
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:5 }   D:9 *(}}[


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have razor-sharp toenails.
You are mostly covered in sharp spines.


Message History

Your wolf wags its tail.
Your wolf bites the plant but does no damage. x2
Your crimson imp hits the plant but does no damage.
Your wolf bites the plant!
Your wolf bites the plant but does no damage.
Your crimson imp blinks!
Your crimson imp disappears in a puff of smoke!
Your wolf bites the plant.
Your wolf bites the plant but does no damage.
Your wolf bites the plant!
Your wolf bites the plant but does no damage. x2
o - 6 potions of curing (gained 2)
Your wolf bites the plant. Your wolf completely misses the plant.
Casting: Call Imp
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
Okay, then.
Okay, then.
Casting: Call Imp
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
Okay, then.

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You can see a friendly wolf and a friendly crimson imp.

Vanquished Creatures
  Pikel (D:6)
  A gargoyle (D:8)
  3 blink frogs (Lair:1)
  An air elemental (D:9)
  5 yaks
  2 ice beasts (D:8)
  2 porcupines
  2 water moccasins (Lair:1)
  A black bear (D:7)
  3 phantoms
  A giant frog (Lair:2)
  2 crocodiles
  A scorpion (D:9)
  2 crimson imps
  2 hounds
  3 orc wizards
  2 worker ants (D:9)
  3 iguanas
  Ijyb (D:3)
  9 adders
  3 worms
  A giant gecko (D:3)
  5 orcs
  9 bats
  A giant cockroach (D:2)
  2 hobgoblins
  2 quokkas (D:2)
  A ball python (D:2)
  A giant newt (D:4)
  7 goblins
  A kobold (D:3)
  6 rats
  A plant (D:5)
87 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Psyche (D:8)
  A polar bear (Lair:1)
  A blink frog (Lair:1)
  An air elemental (Lair:2)
  A deep elf mage (D:9)
  A grizzly bear (Lair:1)
  A spriggan (D:9)
  A hungry ghost (D:7)
  A shark (Lair:2)
  10 yaks (Lair:1)
  A water moccasin (Lair:1)
  An orc warrior (D:8)
  2 black bears
  3 ogres
  A giant goldfish (Lair:2)
  A crocodile (Lair:2)
  A centaur (Lair:1)
  4 giant frogs
  A scorpion (D:7)
  A cyclops skeleton (D:9)
  A wyvern skeleton (D:7)
  3 wights (D:8)
  A yak skeleton (D:9)
  An electric eel (Lair:2)
  A goliath beetle (D:7)
  3 crimson imps
  A quasit (D:8)
  2 hounds
  2 giant frog zombies
  A big fish (Lair:2)
  4 orc priests
  A jelly (D:9)
  A two-headed ogre zombie (D:9)
  6 orc wizards
  An iguana (Lair:1)
  3 worker ants
  An ogre skeleton (D:9)
  A worker ant zombie (D:6)
  5 adders
  A giant mite (Lair:2)
  An inept feature mimic (D:5)
  4 worms
  A giant gecko (D:1)
  23 orcs
  A ball python (D:1)
  9 bats
  4 giant cockroaches
  8 goblins
  12 hobgoblins
  2 jackals (Lair:2)
  6 kobolds
  2 quokkas
  A ball python zombie (D:5)
  A giant gecko zombie (D:5)
  6 giant newts
  A kobold skeleton (D:6)
  4 rats
  A rat zombie (D:5)
  A fungus (Lair:2)
  2 plants
165 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A warg (Lair:2)
  8 wolves
  4 guardian golems
  4 ice beasts (Lair:1)
  2 slaves (D:6)
  An electric eel (Lair:2)
  12 hounds
  16 crimson imps
  An iron imp (Lair:1)
  An orc wizard (D:6)
  Natasha (thrice) (D:6)
  A hound skeleton (Lair:2)
  3 lightning spires
  An adder (D:6)
  13 white imps
  6 shadow imps
  13 bats
  11 quokkas
  11 rats
  2 plants (Lair:2)
114 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 366 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | TheMadToker, the Demonspawn Summoner, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 3/3
   300 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in sharp spines. [demonic ancestry]
   300 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 5/19 MP: 1/4
  1047 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 20/24 MP: 4/6
  1053 | D:2      | Learned a level 2 spell: Call Imp
  1057 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Call Canine Familiar
  1155 | D:2      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  1594 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades
  1594 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 23/30 MP: 1/8
  1865 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings
  2002 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 33/35 MP: 9/9
  2089 | D:3      | Noticed Ijyb
  2271 | D:3      | Killed Ijyb
  2954 | D:4      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  3061 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  3070 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  3070 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You have sharp toenails. [demonic ancestry]
  3070 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 41/41 MP: 7/13
  3179 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3234 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  3246 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  3246 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Summonings
  3522 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3527 | D:4      | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-86-gda4a099 to 0.15-a0-93-g5185eb4
  3528 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  3574 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Sif Muna the Loreminder
  4031 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 34/46 MP: 6/17
  4075 | D:5      | Found Akhuonuh's Gadget Shop.
  4100 | D:5      | Bought a wand of confusion (13) for 156 gold pieces
  4641 | D:6      | Noticed Pikel
  4678 | D:6      | Killed Pikel
  4678 | D:6      | Acquired Sif Muna's first power
  4678 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  4755 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You are mostly covered in sharp spines. [demonic ancestry]
  4755 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 47/52 MP: 12/20
  4799 | D:6      | Reached skill level 7 in Summonings
  4891 | D:7      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  4918 | D:6      | Killed Natasha
  4975 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Elemental
  4978 | D:6      | Killed Natasha
  4993 | D:6      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  5012 | D:6      | Killed Natasha
  5031 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Guardian Golem
  5036 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Lightning Spire
  5788 | D:7      | Acquired Sif Muna's second power
  6198 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  6317 | D:8      | Reached skill level 8 in Summonings
  6417 | D:8      | Noticed a gargoyle
  6449 | D:8      | Killed a gargoyle
  6449 | D:8      | Gained mutation: You have razor-sharp toenails. [demonic ancestry]
  6449 | D:8      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 12/57 MP: 1/23
  6465 | D:8      | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Ice Beast
  6588 | D:8      | Noticed Psyche
  6605 | D:8      | Killed Psyche
  6605 | D:8      | Reached skill level 9 in Summonings
  6750 | D:9      | Found Ownaot's Gadget Shoppe.
  6753 | D:9      | Bought a wand of magic darts (17) for 85 gold pieces
  6753 | D:9      | Bought a wand of flame (10) for 90 gold pieces
  6907 | D:9      | Found Evvianus' Armour Shoppe.
  6927 | D:9      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  7007 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  7064 | D:9      | Upgraded the game from 0.15-a0-93-g5185eb4 to 0.15-a0-103-g69f77c6
  7071 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  7250 | D:9      | Found Keilag's Weapon Shop.
  7398 | D:9      | Found Shamniof's Gadget Shop.
  7475 | D:9      | Found Throipt's Assorted Antiques.
  7570 | D:9      | Bought a scroll labeled CEUCOISORIV for 27 gold pieces
  7570 | D:9      | Bought a scroll labeled KLUDUT TIRI for 27 gold pieces
  7570 | D:9      | Bought a potion of curing for 54 gold pieces
  7627 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  7933 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Summonings
  8015 | Lair:1   | Acquired Sif Muna's third power
  8017 | Lair:1   | HP: 3/85 [grizzly bear (3)]
  8042 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 10. HP: 21/63 MP: 2/26
  8559 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 11 in Summonings
  8748 | Lair:2   | Learned a level 1 spell: Magic Dart
  8751 | Lair:2   | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
  9000 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
  9475 | Lair:2   | Learned a level 1 spell: Animate Skeleton
  9743 | Lair:2   | HP: 1/63 [electric eel/bolt of electricity (8)]
  9896 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 || total
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Melee: Unarmed           |     7 |       |       |       ||     7
       Short sword       |    22 |    57 |       |       ||    79
       Dagger            |     1 |       |    17 |       ||    18
       Cutlass           |       |    91 |   119 |    36 ||   246
Throw: Javelin           |       |       |     3 |       ||     3
       Dart              |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
 Cast: Summon Small Mamm |    75 |    41 |       |       ||   116
       Call Imp          |     2 |    46 |    93 |    34 ||   175
       Call Canine Famil |       |    14 |    40 |    13 ||    67
       Summon Lightning  |       |       |    13 |     4 ||    17
       Summon Guardian G |       |       |     2 |     7 ||     9
       Summon Ice Beast  |       |       |     9 |     4 ||    13
       Summon Elemental  |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2
       Magic Dart        |       |       |       |     9 ||     9
       Blink             |       |       |       |     5 ||     5
       Animate Skeleton  |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
Evoke: Wand              |       |     7 |    20 |    16 ||    43
  Use: Scroll            |     3 |     8 |     8 |     5 ||    24
       Potion            |       |     2 |     4 |     3 ||     9
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |       |     1 |       ||     2
       Distracted        |       |     1 |     1 |     1 ||     3


[rchandra]

A lantern of shadows is pretty strong, with enough evocations (I'm not really sure how much you want) it can kill many things. In your case I would just use it when out of MP and running away rather than training more evocations - LOS will be reduced, and the occasional shadow should help you gain space.

Getting a little (4ish) hexes/air/ice for your summons would be good now, and some fighting/dodging for yourself.

[themadtoker]

Found the Swamp entrance...

Should I go through it or continue my way through the Lair? Is the Swamp hard/worth it?

EDIT: And what's a better choice, Vampiric Draining or Regeneration, keeping in mind I already have a Ring of Regeneration (does the ring and spell even stack?)

[tasonir]

ALL forms of regeneration stack (except for trolls wearing troll leather armor), so yes, use the ring and the spell. Regeneration is generally better than vampiric draining; regeneration is probably the second strongest spell in the game, imho. Haste is first - train some charms and learn haste when you can. You need to switch to manual skill training, and stop training 5+ skills at once.

Finish the lair before you do any lair sub branches. Typically it goes early dungeon until lair, lair, orc, finish the rest of dungeon (not depths), then do a lair sub branch (not slime).