Cip: Eesdeseseserdt, the Troll Beserker.

[treerex5]

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13.0 (tiles) character file.

Ersdeseseserdt the Grappler (Troll Berserker)       Turns: 7345, Time: 00:40:45

HP  91/92        AC  5     Str 28      XL: 10   Next: 33%
MP   3/3         EV 10     Int  4      God: Trog [*****.]
Gold 389         SH  0     Dex 10      Spells:  0 memorised,  9 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : .     - Unarmed
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   b - +0 animal skin
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   (shield restricted)
Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : .   (helmet restricted)
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   (no cloak)
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   (gloves unavailable)
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   (boots unavailable)
Res.Rott. : .       Flight     : .   (no amulet)
Gourmand  : +                        (no ring)
                                     (no ring)

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy
A: unfitting armour, claws 3, fast metabolism 3, gourmand, regeneration 2,
saprovore 2, tough skin 2, AC +1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion


You are on level 8 of the Dungeon.
You worship Trog.
Trog is extremely pleased with you.
You are full.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 9 of its levels.

You have collected 369 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 g - a +3,+1 elven longbow of flame
Armour
 b - a +0 animal skin (worn)
 d - a +1 fire dragon armour
Magical devices
 m - a wand of random effects (9)
Comestibles
 c - 5 bread rations
 k - 9 sultanas
 o - a meat ration
Scrolls
 a - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 e - 6 scrolls of identify
 f - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 h - a scroll of immolation
 j - a scroll of teleportation
Potions
 i - 2 potions of flight


   Skills:
 + Level 2.4 Fighting
 - Level 2.8 Dodging
 * Level 14.8 Unarmed Combat


You have 9 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (8/27)             Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (0/4) D:8
  Lair: D:8-13     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Zin
the Shining One

Shops:
D:8 (


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have claws for hands.
Your metabolism is lightning-fast.
You like to eat raw meat.
You heal very quickly.
You can eat rotten meat.
You are covered in fur (AC +1).
You have very tough skin (AC +2).


Message History

an orcish falchion; an orcish leather armour
A kobold comes into view.
The kobold shouts!
A kobold is nearby!
The kobold closely misses you.
The kobold misses you.
You barely miss the kobold. The kobold hits you.
You claw the kobold!
You kill the kobold!
Trog accepts your kill.
You see here a kobold corpse.
You offer a prayer to Trog.
The kobold corpse is slowly consumed by flames.
Trog is extremely pleased with you.
Save game and exit?
[Y]es or [N]o only, please.
Save game and exit?
Okay, then.
Char dumped to '/Users/qaasimschool/Library/Application Support/Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup/morgue/Ersdeseseserdt.txt'.
Save game and exit?

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  The ghost of Wrath Of Xom the Skirmisher, an experienced DsCK of Xom (D:8)
  Grinder (D:6)
  The ghost of Akraf Relagrfin the Skirmisher, an average DrAK of Lugonu (D:4)
  3 wandering mushrooms (D:8)
  Prince Ribbit (D:4)
  The ghost of Hoping For Some Luc the Ruinous, an average HECj (D:5)
  A hippogriff (D:6)
  A merfolk (D:8)
  A manticore (D:8)
  2 ice beasts
  An ogre (D:7)
  3 sky beasts
  A black bear (D:8)
  3 centaurs
  An orc warrior (D:8)
  3 phantoms
  A manticore zombie (D:6)
  4 giant frogs
  6 crimson imps
  A quasit (D:5)
  3 big fish (D:8)
  3 orc priests
  A hound (D:6)
  A gnoll shaman (D:6)
  A goliath beetle (D:8)
  13 worker ants
  2 iguanas (D:6)
  2 orc wizards (D:5)
  2 scorpions
  Ijyb (D:5)
  7 gnolls (D:6)
  10 adders
  2 giant mites (D:6)
  A shadow imp (D:5)
  A white imp (D:5)
  2 inept feature mimics
  5 worms
  An adder zombie (D:5)
  2 giant eyeballs
  6 giant geckos
  23 orcs
  2 bat skeletons (D:4)
  7 giant cockroaches
  11 goblins
  13 hobgoblins
  8 jackals
  A ball python (D:6)
  14 bats
  12 giant newts
  A hobgoblin zombie (D:5)
  14 kobolds
  An orc zombie (D:5)
  3 quokkas
  13 rats
  2 ballistomycetes (D:8)
  2 butterflies (D:8)
  4 fungi (D:8)
  A plant (D:3)
235 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Eustachio (D:5)
  An iron imp (D:5)
  A green rat (D:5)
  A shadow imp (D:5)
  A white imp (D:5)
  A quokka (D:5)
6 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An orc (D:8)
  A giant spore (D:8)
  A wandering mushroom (D:8)
  A fungus (D:8)
4 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 245 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | Ersdeseseserdt, the Troll Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 23/23 MP: 0/0
   163 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 31/31 MP: 0/0
   397 | D:1      | Acquired Trog's second power
   853 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Unarmed Combat
   879 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 37/37 MP: 1/1
  1138 | D:2      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  1528 | D:3      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  1634 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 38/46 MP: 1/1
  1906 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
  2535 | D:4      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  2617 | D:4      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 44/53 MP: 1/1
  2660 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat
  2754 | D:4      | Noticed Akraf Relagrfin's ghost (average DrAK)
  2767 | D:4      | Killed Akraf Relagrfin's ghost
  2767 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Unarmed Combat
  2767 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 61/61 MP: 2/2
  2792 | D:4      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  3039 | D:4      | Acquired Trog's third power
  3109 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 65/68 MP: 2/2
  3166 | D:4      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  3171 | D:4      | Killed Prince Ribbit
  3171 | D:4      | Reached skill level 8 in Unarmed Combat
  3276 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3303 | D:5      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  3303 | D:5      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  3303 | D:5      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  3443 | D:5      | Reached skill level 9 in Unarmed Combat
  3536 | D:5      | Noticed Ijyb
  3542 | D:5      | Killed Ijyb
  3563 | D:5      | Noticed Hoping For Some Luc's ghost (average HECj)
  3570 | D:5      | Killed Hoping For Some Luc's ghost
  3570 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 76/76 MP: 2/2
  3622 | D:5      | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat
  3948 | D:5      | Noticed Eustachio
  3985 | D:5      | Killed Eustachio
  4197 | D:6      | Reached skill level 11 in Unarmed Combat
  4542 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 65/83 MP: 3/3
  4651 | D:6      | Reached skill level 12 in Unarmed Combat
  4720 | D:6      | Noticed Grinder
  4725 | D:6      | Killed Grinder
  5497 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5518 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5829 | D:7      | Reached skill level 13 in Unarmed Combat
  6134 | D:8      | Noticed Wrath Of Xom's ghost (experienced DsCK)
  6152 | D:8      | Killed Wrath Of Xom's ghost
  6215 | D:8      | Reached skill level 14 in Unarmed Combat
  6221 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 59/92 MP: 3/3
  7122 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  7187 | D:8      | Received a gift from Trog
  7255 | D:8      | Found Uppullemo's Antique Weapon Emporium.


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 || total
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Melee: Unarmed           |   138 |   124 |   280 |    99 ||   641
Invok: Berserk           |     1 |     1 |    10 |     4 ||    16
       Trog's Hand       |       |       |     4 |       ||     4
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
  Use: Potion            |     4 |       |     4 |     4 ||    12
       Scroll            |     7 |     1 |     6 |     2 ||    16



Just found Orc on this level... what should I do?
Also, is my skill training good or not?

Thanks!

[rchandra]

Don't go to Orc, keep exploring the Dungeon until you find Lair and go there.

Your skill training is fine. After a little more Unarmed I would get Fighting and Armour, wearing the fire dragon armour (and being cautious around potential cold until finding cold resistance).

[KoboldLord]

I don't recommend going into Orc. In Orc, you'll get weapons that you don't want to use and body armor that you can't actually wear, only only at the very bottom where you will definitely die if you try to go there will you find anything else that might actually be of interest to you. Keep looking for Lair, where you will find a lot of melee brutes that you can mostly claw to death and then eat, and end up with a whole lot more xp than you had before.

I would probably feed some xp into throwing. Once you get to 8 throwing, Trog will start gifting you javelins and large rocks instead of just more melee weapons that you will never use anyway. Then you can probably turn throwing off, because a stack of large rocks will kill anything for a long time regardless of whether you have 8 throwing or 27. There are some enemies that you don't want to punch, and infinite large rocks is a pretty cheap way for a troll berserker to get them out of the way.

Wearing the fire dragon armour is a bit risky in the main Dungeon because of intelligent enemies that might have unexpected cold attacks, for instance centaur packs with branded arrows, but it should be pretty safe for Lair. The only cold-using opponents you're likely to find in there are uniques and the denizens of vaults, either of which you can run away from and avoid because they won't suddenly spawn behind you. The AC it provides should make a noticeable difference.

It's probably a good idea to start working on developing your support and defense skills. More unarmed combat is always good, but it's cheaper for your character to get 5 levels of fighting or armour or dodging than it is to get 2 levels of unarmed combat.

[bcadren]

As a troll fan; Orc is a lot of fun, there's no real loot for trolls, yes. But most the Orcs have the consistency of wet paper to troll claws, I supposed even more so to TrBe (I'm not a Trog fan). My only advice is, if the High Priest or Sorcerer appears, smash them before they can summon (and if they get to summoning demon before you reach them, just run in your pre-lair state you can't take out the demons). Orc Knights will be a little bit of a challenge and Warlords are another 'just run' right now, later they are fine for melee range though. As much as people say the Lair is just fine...without rPois try to avoid the Spiny Frogs and the Black Mambas. And for now, just avoid the hydras, period. [Your claws will rip off a head causing them to regain HP and sprout two more and...you're just unlikely to win.]

[Magipi]

And for now, just avoid the hydras, period. [Your claws will rip off a head causing them to regain HP and sprout two more and...you're just unlikely to win.]

I think, a troll has a good way to handle hydras (and spiny frogs and whatever else): large rocks. Is there none in the dungeon?

If you train up your throwing to 8, Trog will start gifting large rocks.

[bcadren]

I think, a troll has a good way to handle hydras (and spiny frogs and whatever else): large rocks. Is there none in the dungeon?

If you train up your throwing to 8, Trog will start gifting large rocks.

It's true...if you have them, they are just REALLY rare until you start seeing Cyclopes or get them as Oka gifts. My point was don't let them in melee range though, NOT don't kill them with wands or Large Rocks if you have them.

[ggoDeye]

If this character doesn't make it, consider starting as TrHu and convert to Trog. You're guaranteed the large rocks and trolls will still steam role the dungeon until finding an alter to Trog.

[duvessa]

I recommend not considering that. While Hu is better than Fi or Gl or Mo or whatever, starting with berserk and extra piety is much more useful.

[treerex5]

I think I'll start putting some points into throwing, until I reach 8.
I'm also going to go grab all the large rocks I've seen so far...

[treerex5]

Also, what levels of Lair can I survive?

[duvessa]

All of them.

[treerex5]

Okay, going for Lair now...
I'll post an update at the end of Lair: 1, Lair: 3, Lair: 5, Lair: 7, and Lair: 8.
Also, should I wear my Fire Dragon Armor or my animal skin?

[stickyfingers]

FDA, no questions.

[treerex5]

Problem is, that lowers my EV and hit chance.
And I don't have RC.

[treerex5]

And there are a few Ice Dragons... guarding an entrance to a different zone.

[treerex5]

And white imps.

[treerex5]

Just found a cool vault in D:9, gonna tackle it.

[treerex5]

Just a Nemmy Altar.

[treerex5]

Found the lair.... guarded by a !@#@#$#!@ing wandering Shroom.

Going to put on my FDA...
Wish me luck.

[treerex5]

Died to a #@$!#@!@ing death yak. Horde.
Not uploading my morgue.

[tasonir]

The white imps/ice dragon are probably guarding a ice cave - it is a timed portal to a bonus floor with bonus loot but possibly quite hard monsters, and generally have plenty of ice damage. Wearing a FDA in there without some other source of rC+ is suicide. Otherwise, the FDA is much better.

Wandering shrooms are usually best avoided, unless you have clarity or are high enough level to have a great deal of hp. Ranged attacks are great for taking them out, I think you'll do a lot better on trolls that have large rocks and once you figure out what things to use them on. They're quite powerful, and can deal with hydras and such entirely on their own, as long as you have ~5 or more. Wands can help if you start to break rocks and don't have enough to finish a hydra off.