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Dungeon Dilettante

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Joined: Monday, 30th December 2013, 19:47

Post Monday, 30th December 2013, 19:54

CiP: MiBe Best run so far

Hello everyone. I'm new to these forums, though I've been playing DC:SS for a while so far, although with a fairly large break from around 2 years ago to just under a week ago. After a bunch of failed runs, I got one that...well, it's my best character ever so far.

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13.1 (tiles) character file.

Orb Adventurer the Severer (Minotaur Berserker)    Turns: 30023, Time: 03:22:49

HP 121/145       AC 28     Str 27      XL: 16   Next:  7%
MP  11/11        EV  8     Int  6      God: Trog [******]
Gold 1101        SH  0     Dex 11      Spells:  0 memorised, 15 levels left

Res.Fire  : + . .   See Invis. : .   N - +7,+8 dwarf battleaxe (flame)
Res.Cold  : + . .   Warding    : .   a - +0 orc plate armour
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   (no shield)
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : .   (helmet restricted)
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   B - +0 cloak
Sust.Abil.: + .     Spirit.Shd : .   Q - +2 pair of orc gauntlets {rC+}
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   e - +0 pair of elf boots
Res.Rott. : .       Flight     : .   (no amulet)
Saprovore : . . .                    x - ring of protection from magic
                                     s - ring of sustain abilities

@: quick, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2, fire resistance 1, speed 1, poison resistance,
AC +5, Int +2, Dex -1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion
}: 1/15 runes: gossamer


You are on level 5 of the Spider Nest.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and seen 29 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ice Cave.

You have collected 2154 gold pieces.
You have spent 1073 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 p - a +4,+4 executioner's axe of electrocution
 w - a bloodstained trident {god gift}
 H - a +0,+5 bow of flame
 N - a +7,+8 dwarven battleaxe of flaming (weapon)
Missiles
 l - 102 arrows
 t - 15 arrows of flame
Armour
 a - a +0 orcish plate armour (worn)
 e - a +0 pair of elven boots (worn)
 B - a +0 cloak (worn)
 Q - a +2 pair of orcish gauntlets of cold resistance (worn)
Magical devices
 b - a wand of draining (6)
 i - a wand of cold (2)
 r - a wand of disintegration (8)
 u - a wand of confusion (14)
 G - a wand of hasting (2)
 J - a wand of frost
 L - a wand of lightning
 O - a wand of random effects (15)
 P - a wand of lightning
Comestibles
 c - 4 bread rations
 k - 15 grapes
 n - 12 meat rations
 R - 3 pieces of ambrosia
Scrolls
 f - 4 scrolls of recharging
 g - a scroll of holy word
 h - a scroll of brand weapon
 o - 3 scrolls of fog
 v - 9 scrolls of remove curse
 y - 6 scrolls of teleportation
 C - a scroll of identify
 D - 6 scrolls of blinking
 E - a scroll labeled REALIT PROTUM
 F - 2 scrolls of fear
 K - a scroll of enchant weapon II
Jewellery
 j - an uncursed ring of sustenance
 q - a +3 ring of protection
 s - a ring of sustain abilities (left hand)
 x - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
Potions
 d - 5 potions of curing
 m - 2 potions of magic
 z - a potion of brilliance
 A - 6 potions of restore abilities
 I - a potion of speed
 M - a potion of heal wounds
 T - 2 potions of might


   Skills:
 + Level 15,7 Fighting
 + Level 20,6 Axes
   Level 12,9 Maces & Flails
   Level 3,5 Slings
 - Level 1,5 Bows
 + Level 14,4 Armour
 + Level 11,2 Dodging
 + Level 2,2 Evocations


You have 15 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (12/27)            Temple (0/1) D:7             Orc (3/4) D:8
   Lair (8/8) D:12          Swamp (0/5) Lair:4       Spider (5/5) Lair:4
  Slime (1/6) Lair:7     
   Elf: Orc:3-4     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Fedhas
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Yredelemnul
Zin
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:9 !   D:10 *   D:12 *[***   Orc:2 +

Portals:
Hell: Lair:8

Annotations:
Lair:8 exclusion: ice statue


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee.
You have a pair of horns on your head.
You are partially covered in icy blue scales (AC +1).
You are partially covered in rough black scales (AC +4, Dex -1).
Your mind is acute. (Int +2)
Your flesh is heat resistant.
You cover ground quickly.
Your system is resistant to poisons.


Message History

Items here: %%%%%
a ghost moth corpse; a red wasp corpse; a ghost moth corpse; a tarantella corpse; an emperor scorpion corpse
You see here a jumping spider corpse.
You enter the shallow water.
Moving in this stuff is going to be slow.
You are caught in the web!
There is a web here.
You disentangle yourself.
You are caught in the web!
There is a web here.
The web tears apart.
You pick your way through the web.
There is a web here.
Save game and exit?
Welcome back, Orb Adventurer the Minotaur Berserker.
Trog says: Kill them all!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Char dumped to 'C:/Users/user/AppData/Roaming/crawl/morgue/OrbAdventurer.txt'.
Unknown command.
Save game and exit?

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Nikola (Spider:2)
  Arachne (Spider:3)
  Frances (Spider:2)
  Kirke (Spider:2)
  3 ghost moths (Spider:5)
  5 emperor scorpions
  An orc warlord (Orc:2)
  Jorgrun (Spider:4)
  2 dire elephants (Lair:8)
  7 hydras
  A very ugly thing (Spider:2)
  A sun demon (Lair:8)
  Nergalle (D:12)
  Erolcha (D:12)
  The ghost of Fighta the Reanimator, an experienced DDNe of Kikubaaqudgha (D:8)
  A wizard (Lair:8)
  An ice statue (IceCv)
  3 hill giants
  21 wolf spiders
  A necromancer (IceCv)
  3 griffons
  4 red wasps
  A spiny worm (Lair:8)
  Maurice (D:12)
  11 elephants
  4 black mambas
  7 demonic crawlers
  2 orange demons
  5 spiny frogs
  2 fire drakes
  2 smoke demons
  3 komodo dragons
  7 hellwings (Lair:8)
  Grinder (D:3)
  25 jumping spiders
  3 trolls
  A red devil (Lair:8)
  4 polar bears
  A two-headed ogre (D:11)
  14 orb spiders
  14 slime creatures
  3 giant leeches (Lair:4)
  4 boulder beetles
  A hydra skeleton (D:7)
  2 basilisks
  2 wyverns
  A water elemental (D:11)
  23 yaks
  12 blink frogs
  The ghost of CeHunt the Ducker, an average TrBe of Trog (D:3)
  41 redbacks
  14 trapdoor spiders
  2 hill giant zombies
  21 tarantellas
  3 sharks (D:11)
  2 elephant slugs
  5 hogs
  A death yak simulacrum (IceCv)
  3 hippogriffs
  13 wolves
  A swamp worm (Lair:4)
  A manticore (D:9)
  3 necrophages
  5 porcupines
  18 orc warriors
  A phantom (D:10)
  10 ice beasts
  14 freezing wraiths (IceCv)
  4 ogres
  2 yellow wasps
  7 sky beasts
  A boring beetle (Lair:6)
  8 giant goldfish
  8 centaurs
  A warg (Orc:1)
  18 crocodiles
  A spriggan simulacrum (IceCv)
  Duvessa (D:4)
  15 giant frogs
  A big kobold (D:11)
  2 rotting devils (Lair:8)
  5 giant slugs
  Blork the orc (D:7)
  A manticore zombie (D:10)
  14 water moccasins
  9 agate snails
  3 draconian simulacra (IceCv)
  A cyclops skeleton (D:11)
  A wyvern skeleton (D:10)
  4 wights (D:10)
  An eye of draining (Slime:1)
  2 elephant simulacra (IceCv)
  8 jellyfish
  10 electric eels
  Dowan (D:4)
  7 crimson imps
  9 goliath beetles
  A jelly (D:9)
  4 big fish
  A black bear zombie (D:8)
  37 spiders
  8 orc priests
  20 hounds
  11 iguanas
  5 scorpions
  10 orc wizards
  40 sheep
  A rock worm simulacrum (IceCv)
  8 worker ants
  4 troll simulacra (IceCv)
  A killer bee zombie (D:12)
  4 centaur simulacra (IceCv)
  A brain worm zombie (D:12)
  A big kobold skeleton (D:11)
  An ogre skeleton (D:6)
  68 green rats
  24 adders
  2 giant centipedes
  5 ogre simulacra (IceCv)
  6 giant mites
  3 naga simulacra (IceCv)
  16 white imps
  12 worms
  A giant centipede zombie (D:12)
  A scorpion zombie (D:9)
  4 giant eyeballs
  16 giant geckos
  77 orcs
  A ball python (D:4)
  25 bats
  16 goblins
  17 hobgoblins
  37 jackals
  24 kobolds
  An ooze (Lair:7)
  6 giant cockroaches
  13 giant newts
  A giant spore (D:6)
  A hobgoblin zombie (D:8)
  7 quokkas
  18 rats
  A ballistomycete (D:6)
  10 fungi
  6 plants
1100 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  An orc priest (D:8)
  2 hobgoblins (D:8)
3 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An ogre (D:8)
  A giant gecko (D:11)
  A giant newt (D:11)
  9 fungi
  5 plants
17 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1120 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | Orb Adventurer, the Minotaur Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/0
   113 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 13/26 MP: 0/0
   144 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You cover ground quickly. [potion of mutation]
   144 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in icy blue scales (AC +1). [potion of mutation]
   144 | D:1      | Gained mutation: Your flesh is heat resistant. [potion of mutation]
   290 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting
   393 | D:1      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
   620 | D:1      | Acquired Trog's second power
   943 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 29/33 MP: 1/1
  1118 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 40/40 MP: 1/1
  1324 | D:2      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  1470 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Axes
  1511 | D:3      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  1589 | D:3      | Noticed Grinder
  1603 | D:3      | Killed Grinder
  1603 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  1603 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Slings
  1603 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 47/47 MP: 1/1
  1603 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 53/53 MP: 2/2
  1615 | D:3      | Noticed CeHunt's ghost (average TrBe)
  1756 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Axes
  1889 | D:3      | Acquired Trog's third power
  1959 | D:3      | Killed CeHunt's ghost
  1959 | D:3      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 50/60 MP: 2/2
  2017 | D:4      | Noticed Duvessa
  2018 | D:4      | Noticed Dowan
  2020 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  2563 | D:4      | Killed Duvessa
  2567 | D:4      | Killed Dowan
  2943 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3007 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Axes
  3007 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  3119 | D:5      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in rough black scales (AC +4, Dex -1). [potion of mutation]
  3119 | D:5      | Gained mutation: Your system is resistant to poisons. [potion of mutation]
  3408 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 68/68 MP: 2/2
  4456 | D:7      | Reached skill level 8 in Axes
  4456 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 29/75 MP: 3/3
  4818 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5496 | D:7      | Noticed Blork the orc
  5508 | D:7      | Killed Blork the orc
  5508 | D:7      | Reached skill level 9 in Axes
  5612 | D:8      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  5663 | D:8      | Noticed a hill giant
  5670 | D:8      | Killed a hill giant
  5670 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Bows
  5760 | D:8      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
  5812 | D:8      | Noticed Fighta's ghost (experienced DDNe)
  5826 | D:8      | Killed Fighta's ghost
  5826 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  5826 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 84/84 MP: 3/5
  5830 | D:8      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  6022 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Axes
  6363 | D:8      | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
  6455 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  6482 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
  6488 | D:8      | Received a gift from Trog
  6830 | D:9      | Found Ikatwa's Distillery.
  6847 | D:9      | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 33 gold pieces
  6847 | D:9      | Bought a potion of porridge for 11 gold pieces
  6847 | D:9      | Bought a potion of mutation for 33 gold pieces
  6850 | D:9      | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute. (Int +2) [potion of mutation]
  7488 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  7586 | D:8      | Reached skill level 11 in Axes
  7949 | Orc:2    | Found Azegi's Book Boutique.
  8091 | Orc:3    | Noticed an orc warlord
  8324 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
  8723 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
  8723 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 12 in Axes
  8723 | Orc:2    | Reached XP level 11. HP: 67/93 MP: 6/6
  8960 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
  9133 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc sorcerer
  9489 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
  9500 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
  9770 | D:10     | Found Vuepip's Assorted Antiques.
  9782 | D:10     | Bought a scroll of identify for 64 gold pieces
  9782 | D:10     | Bought an encrusted glass wand for 640 gold pieces
  9909 | D:11     | Noticed a hill giant
  9916 | D:11     | Killed a hill giant
 10026 | D:11     | Received a gift from Trog
 10086 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails
 10210 | D:11     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
 10218 | D:11     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
 10327 | D:11     | Reached skill level 13 in Axes
 10700 | D:11     | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 10856 | D:11     | Received a gift from Trog
 11090 | D:12     | Found Cliossutt's Armour Emporium.
 11090 | D:12     | Found Chaplughej's General Store.
 11098 | D:12     | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 42 gold pieces
 11098 | D:12     | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces
 11098 | D:12     | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces
 11109 | D:12     | Noticed Nergalle
 11111 | D:12     | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 11116 | D:12     | Killed Nergalle
 11120 | D:12     | Killed a nine-headed hydra
 11122 | D:12     | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
 11200 | D:12     | Found Majia's General Store.
 11229 | D:12     | Bought a scroll of identify for 24 gold pieces
 11229 | D:12     | Bought a bread ration for 48 gold pieces
 11229 | D:12     | Bought a meat ration for 48 gold pieces
 11376 | D:12     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
 11394 | D:12     | Found Ummaefink's Assorted Antiques.
 11400 | D:12     | Bought a scroll of identify for 74 gold pieces
 11402 | D:12     | Noticed Maurice
 11415 | D:12     | Killed Maurice
 11415 | D:12     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 99/103 MP: 7/7
 11434 | D:12     | Reached skill level 14 in Axes
 11450 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 11490 | D:12     | Found Naaqah's Assorted Antiques.
 11709 | D:12     | Noticed Erolcha
 11724 | D:12     | Killed Erolcha
 12210 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 12378 | Lair:1   | Found a frozen archway.
 12388 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 13336 | IceCv    | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 14144 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Trog
 14799 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 14805 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 15 in Axes
 15290 | Lair:2   | Identified a +0 rod of striking (6/6) (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts)
 15510 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Trog
 15778 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 112/112 MP: 8/8
 16195 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Trog
 16227 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
 16862 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Trog
 16905 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 16 in Axes
 17104 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 17164 | Lair:4   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 17675 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 17934 | Spider:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 19601 | Lair:6   | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 19865 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 123/123 MP: 8/8
 20195 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 17 in Axes
 20664 | Lair:7   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 20665 | Lair:7   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 20831 | Slime:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Pits of Slime
 20853 | Slime:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 21335 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 22071 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 22258 | Lair:8   | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 22445 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 18 in Axes
 22874 | Lair:8   | Found a gateway to Hell.
 23749 | Spider:2 | Noticed Kirke
 23905 | Spider:2 | Noticed Nikola
 24331 | Spider:2 | Killed Kirke
 24478 | Spider:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 24489 | Spider:2 | Got a bloodstained trident {god gift}
 24556 | Spider:2 | Noticed Frances
 24572 | Spider:2 | Killed Frances
 25227 | Spider:2 | Killed Nikola
 25227 | Spider:2 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 134/134 MP: 10/10
 25493 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 19 in Axes
 26623 | Spider:3 | Noticed Arachne
 26633 | Spider:3 | Killed Arachne
 26957 | Spider:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 27569 | Spider:4 | Noticed Jorgrun
 27589 | Spider:4 | Killed Jorgrun
 27728 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 28120 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest
 28991 | Spider:5 | Reached skill level 20 in Axes
 29442 | Spider:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 29754 | Spider:5 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 121/145 MP: 0/11
 29942 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
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Melee: Hand axe          |    73 |    71 |   181 |       |       |       ||   325
       War axe           |       |       |   132 |    60 |       |       ||   192
       Battleaxe         |       |       |       |   824 |  1172 |    25 ||  2021
 Fire: Sling             |       |     9 |    22 |       |       |       ||    31
       Bow               |       |       |     6 |    27 |     1 |       ||    34
Invok: Berserk           |       |     2 |     7 |     5 |     8 |       ||    22
       Burn Spellbooks   |       |     1 |     1 |     5 |     2 |       ||     9
       Trog's Hand       |       |       |       |     4 |     5 |     1 ||    10
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     5 |    12 |     4 |       ||    21
       Deck              |       |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     2
  Use: Scroll            |     7 |     1 |    13 |    19 |    24 |     1 ||    65
       Potion            |     3 |     5 |     5 |     9 |     7 |     1 ||    30
 Stab: Held in net/web   |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1


This is my best character so far. It's the first one ever to get to the lair and, more importantly, get a rune of Zot. If anyone has some advice, that would definitely be great to hear. Right now I'm thinking of finishing up the Orcish mines and then see how I fare in the Swamp. Any advice for someone who is still relatively new to the game?

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Post Monday, 30th December 2013, 20:11

Re: CiP: MiBe Best run so far

Your character overall looks fine. Some adjustment I'd make:
. use the +3 ac ring over the sustain abilities
- use exec axe instead of battle axe. If you're use manual training, disable everything until axes reach 26, then disable it and don't train anymore.
- don't raise str on level up with a MiBe, raise dex (you need 20ish str to properly use a plate armour, after that increasing dex steadily grants better EV if you train dodging).
- identify that scroll
- drop valuable scrolls and potions which aren't tactically important in fight, to avoid destruction - a common stash place is Lair:1. Scrolls to drop are: recharging (but spend one of those on the wand of hasting!), brand weapon, holy word (i'd keep that scroll for liches in v:5 or zot) enchant weapon and some scroll of fog, remove curse, teleportation and blinking (keep a couple of each in inventory). Also drop brillance, magic and restore abilities (you don't need them).

You should easily clear Orc:4 now - be careful against eventual orc sorcerer or ogre mage, use trog's hand because your MR is bad. Try to find a better plate (ctrl-f "plate armour && ego) - if you get a rf+ or mr you can put all enchant scroll you have on it.
After Orc:4 do more dungeon (around 20ish) then vault:4, after finish D, grab swamp and vault rune and win the game. Don't do elf.


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   144 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You cover ground quickly. [potion of mutation]
   144 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in icy blue scales (AC +1). [potion of mutation]
   144 | D:1      | Gained mutation: Your flesh is heat resistant. [potion of mutation]


You have been incredibly lucky with the two mut pot you quaffed (or is a save scumming result?). Generally speaking, is a very bad idea to quaff mutation pots, because there are some mutation which are overwhelming bad and can cripple every character, so the potential benefits of getting some good ones don't compensate the risk of ruining your char. Moreover, is usually a very bad strategy to quaff - id potions, because you can lose some of the most potent consumables in game (might, speed, agility, ...) which can be a lifesaver, especially early on.
Last edited by nago on Monday, 30th December 2013, 20:15, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Monday, 30th December 2013, 20:13

Re: CiP: MiBe Best run so far

Good job on the rune, but it's generally not advised that you go for a rune until absolutely necessary. Most people will explore the first 4 floors of the Lair subvaults and leave the 5th floor for later.

I would also advise not carrying all those consumables if you don't need them. Losing all your recharging scrolls without conservation is a real bummer. Especially since you have no wands worth using those scrolls on. EDIT: Just saw you have a wand of hasting. Definitely recharge that.

I would go for Orc, then the first 4 floors of Swamp. After that I'd go down in the dungeon.

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Post Monday, 30th December 2013, 20:16

Re: CiP: MiBe Best run so far

If you're use manual training, disable everything until axes reach 26, then disable it and don't train anymore.

I still don't get why people issue the "if you're using manual training" caveat.
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Post Monday, 30th December 2013, 20:18

Re: CiP: MiBe Best run so far

Because judging by the look of his skills, he may been using automatic one, which do kinda a good job (at least with Be) and may be better for a newbie player than manual one.
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Post Monday, 30th December 2013, 20:19

Re: CiP: MiBe Best run so far

I agree with nago, but of course, the blue name indicates he knows what he's talking about.

I do wonder though, is it a better idea to switch training to 100% for axes, and switch to exec axe when it's closer to min delay, rather than switching immediately and not being at min delay?

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Post Monday, 30th December 2013, 20:23

Re: CiP: MiBe Best run so far

nago wrote:Because judging by the look of his skills, he may been using automatic one, which do kinda a good job (at least with Be) and may be better for a newbie player than manual one.

Bataille means that you can deselect skills manually on automatic mode as well.

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Post Monday, 30th December 2013, 20:39

Re: CiP: MiBe Best run so far

Yes, but after that you need to know when is better to enable all useful back - which from my point of view deny the usefulness of an automatic skill trainer.

damiac wrote:I agree with nago, but of course, the blue name indicates he knows what he's talking about.

I do wonder though, is it a better idea to switch training to 100% for axes, and switch to exec axe when it's closer to min delay, rather than switching immediately and not being at min delay?


The battle axe will be better than the exec until a breakpoint between 21-26 axes (you have also to consider that the first is +8, the latter +4, and the enchantment is different). I'd suggested to switch for simplicity, the most complete advice would be probably be: "do some test on wiz mode to see at which point is best to switch to the exec axe, until then use the battle axe".
Just because I've nothing to do, a test with a stone giant.
exec:
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    21 |     22,0 |     80 |      92% |  20,5 |    95  |  1,05 |     21,5
        22 |     22,0 |     81 |      92% |  20,4 |    90  |  1,11 |     22,7
        23 |     22,9 |     87 |      92% |  21,2 |    85  |  1,18 |     25,0
        24 |     22,7 |     86 |      92% |  21,0 |    80  |  1,25 |     26,3
        25 |     22,7 |     99 |      92% |  21,0 |    75  |  1,33 |     28,0
        26 |     23,3 |     87 |      93% |  21,6 |    70  |  1,43 |     30,9
        27 |     23,2 |     88 |      92% |  21,6 |    70  |  1,43 |     30,8


battleaxe
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 21 |     18,2 |     75 |      93% |  16,9 |    70  |  1,43 |     24,2
        22 |     18,1 |     81 |      92% |  16,8 |    70  |  1,43 |     23,9
        23 |     18,2 |     79 |      92% |  16,9 |    70  |  1,43 |     24,2
        24 |     19,1 |     82 |      93% |  17,8 |    70  |  1,43 |     25,5
        25 |     18,8 |     87 |      92% |  17,5 |    70  |  1,43 |     25,0
        26 |     19,7 |     83 |      92% |  18,2 |    70  |  1,43 |     26,1
        27 |     19,3 |     93 |      93% |  18,0 |    70  |  1,43 |     25,7


So it seems around 24, but more tests may change the result.
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Post Monday, 30th December 2013, 20:46

Re: CiP: MiBe Best run so far

At this point I'm only training fighting, axes, dodging and armour.
Also, I was not aware that dex was actually that useful. I thought that for a berserker it was all Str.
As for the stuff I'm carrying, I guess that yeah, there are a bunch of stuff I have. I have a stash on Lair:2 which contains a few extra things, including some potions of cure mutation. Some of the more notable things in the stash (At least the ones I imagine being more notable):
2 more wands of disintegration (Yes, that's three wands of disintegration I got.
+3, +4 Dire Flail of Holy Wrath (reason why I'm trying to train up my maces/flails)
Ring of regeneration
Wand of Cold (Another one)
+2, +6 Battleaxe of Chopping (Probably not gonna use it considering the battleaxe I'm currently using and the executioners axe I'm hoping to use later)
3 potions of cure mutation (Juuuuuuust in case...yeah, I'd say that I got lucky with mutations this run)
Wand of Polymorph (5) (Probably not quite notable, but still)
As for that scroll...well, I don't think that anything that it is can be that dangerous (If nothing else, I already identified the scroll of Torment. The hard way.)
Oh, and I can enchant the executioners axe, though I'd need to find a few more scrolls to do so.

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Post Tuesday, 31st December 2013, 11:08

Re: CiP: MiBe Best run so far

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13.1 (tiles) character file.

Orb Adventurer the Executioner (MiBe)              Turns: 37087, Time: 04:14:19

HP 137/155       AC 31     Str 27      XL: 17   Next: 15%
MP  11/11        EV  8     Int  6      God: Trog [******]
Gold 1200        SH  0     Dex 11      Spells:  0 memorised, 16 levels left

Res.Fire  : + + .   See Invis. : .   N - +7,+8 dwarf battleaxe (flame)
Res.Cold  : + . .   Warding    : .   f - +0 plate armour {rF+}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   (no shield)
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : .   (helmet restricted)
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   B - +0 cloak
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   Q - +2 pair of orc gauntlets {rC+}
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   e - +0 pair of elf boots
Res.Rott. : .       Flight     : .   (no amulet)
Saprovore : . . .                    x - ring of protection from magic
                                     q - +3 ring of protection

@: quick, very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2, fire resistance 1, speed 1, poison resistance,
AC +5, Int +2, Dex -1
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion
}: 1/15 runes: gossamer


You are on level 5 of the Swamp.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and seen 35 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ice Cave.

You have collected 3444 gold pieces.
You have spent 2264 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 p - a +6,+5 executioner's axe of electrocution
 H - a +0,+5 bow of flame
 I - a +3,+3 dwarven dire flail of crushing
 N - a +7,+8 dwarven battleaxe of flaming (weapon)
Missiles
 l - 102 arrows
 t - 15 arrows of flame
Armour
 e - a +0 pair of elven boots (worn)
 f - a +0 plate armour of fire resistance (worn)
 B - a +0 cloak (worn)
 Q - a +2 pair of orcish gauntlets of cold resistance (worn)
Magical devices
 a - a wand of fire (6)
 g - a wand of digging (11)
 i - a wand of cold (2)
 r - a wand of disintegration (8)
 s - a wand of polymorph
 u - a wand of confusion (14)
 A - a wand of lightning (11)
 G - a wand of hasting (5)
 P - a wand of lightning (1)
Comestibles
 c - 3 bread rations
 k - 10 grapes
 n - 14 meat rations
 z - 3 apples
Scrolls
 b - a scroll of summoning
 v - 12 scrolls of remove curse
 w - a scroll of fog
 y - 5 scrolls of teleportation
 C - 4 scrolls of identify
 D - 4 scrolls of blinking
 E - a scroll of acquirement
 F - 2 scrolls of fear
Jewellery
 j - an uncursed ring of sustenance
 o - an uncursed ring of see invisible
 q - a +3 ring of protection (left hand)
 x - a ring of protection from magic (right hand)
Potions
 d - 5 potions of curing
 h - a potion of agility
 m - a potion of flight
 M - 2 potions of heal wounds


   Skills:
 + Level 16,8 Fighting
 + Level 22,3 Axes
 * Level 14,3 Maces & Flails
   Level 3,5 Slings
 - Level 1,5 Bows
 + Level 15,0 Armour
 + Level 11,6 Dodging
 + Level 2,2 Evocations


You have 16 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (12/27)            Temple (0/1) D:7             Orc (4/4) D:8
    Elf (0/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:12          Swamp (5/5) Lair:4
 Spider (5/5) Lair:4        Slime (1/6) Lair:7     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Fedhas
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Yredelemnul
Zin
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:9 !   D:10 *   D:12 *[***   Orc:2 +[=   Orc:3 %   Orc:4 *+?

Portals:
Hell: Lair:8

Annotations:
Lair:8 exclusion: ice statue
Swamp:5 Mennas


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee.
You have a pair of horns on your head.
You are partially covered in icy blue scales (AC +1).
You are partially covered in rough black scales (AC +4, Dex -1).
Your mind is acute. (Int +2)
Your flesh is heat resistant.
You cover ground quickly.
Your system is resistant to poisons.


Message History

The giant goldfish simulacrum barely misses you.
You slash the giant goldfish simulacrum!
You melt the giant goldfish simulacrum!
You slash the giant goldfish simulacrum!
You melt the giant goldfish simulacrum.
The giant goldfish simulacrum vapourises!
You enter the shallow water.
Moving in this stuff is going to be slow.
You enter the shallow water.
Moving in this stuff is going to be slow.
You enter the shallow water.
Moving in this stuff is going to be slow.
You enter the shallow water.
Moving in this stuff is going to be slow.
The giant goldfish simulacrum bites you but does no damage.
You slash the giant goldfish simulacrum!
You melt the giant goldfish simulacrum!
The giant goldfish simulacrum vapourises!
Char dumped to 'C:/Users/user/AppData/Roaming/crawl/morgue/OrbAdventurer.txt'.
Save game and exit?

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Saint Roka (Swamp:2)
  Nikola (Spider:2)
  Arachne (Spider:3)
  Rupert (Swamp:3)
  Frances (Spider:2)
  Kirke (Spider:2)
  Aizul (Swamp:2)
  3 ghost moths (Spider:5)
  5 emperor scorpions
  An orc warlord (Orc:2)
  Jorgrun (Spider:4)
  2 dire elephants (Lair:8)
  11 hydras
  4 alligators
  4 orc high priests (Orc:4)
  A very ugly thing (Spider:2)
  Urug (Orc:4)
  A sun demon (Lair:8)
  Nergalle (D:12)
  Erolcha (D:12)
  The ghost of Fighta the Reanimator, an experienced DDNe of Kikubaaqudgha (D:8)
  5 swamp dragons
  A wizard (Lair:8)
  An ice statue (IceCv)
  3 hill giants
  2 orc sorcerers
  2 orc knights (Orc:4)
  22 wolf spiders
  A necromancer (IceCv)
  3 griffons
  7 red wasps
  2 spiny worms
  Maurice (D:12)
  11 elephants
  4 black mambas
  A feature mimic (Orc:4)
  7 demonic crawlers
  2 orange demons
  13 spiny frogs
  2 fire drakes
  2 smoke demons
  3 komodo dragons
  7 hellwings (Lair:8)
  Grinder (D:3)
  25 jumping spiders
  6 trolls
  A red devil (Lair:8)
  4 polar bears
  A two-headed ogre (D:11)
  14 orb spiders
  22 slime creatures
  16 giant leeches
  A raven (Swamp:2)
  4 boulder beetles
  A hydra skeleton (D:7)
  10 bog bodies
  2 basilisks
  2 wyverns
  A water elemental (D:11)
  29 yaks
  12 blink frogs
  The ghost of CeHunt the Ducker, an average TrBe of Trog (D:3)
  41 redbacks
  14 trapdoor spiders
  2 hill giant zombies
  21 tarantellas
  3 sharks (D:11)
  17 vampire mosquitoes
  2 elephant slugs
  A swamp worm simulacrum (Swamp:5)
  5 hogs
  A death yak simulacrum (IceCv)
  3 hippogriffs
  13 wolves
  59 swamp worms
  A manticore (D:9)
  3 necrophages
  5 porcupines
  39 orc warriors
  A phantom (D:10)
  10 ice beasts
  14 freezing wraiths (IceCv)
  9 swamp drakes
  6 ogres
  2 yellow wasps
  7 sky beasts
  A boring beetle (Lair:6)
  14 giant goldfish
  8 centaurs
  2 wargs
  20 crocodiles
  A spriggan simulacrum (IceCv)
  Duvessa (D:4)
  17 giant frogs
  A big kobold (D:11)
  2 rotting devils (Lair:8)
  6 giant slugs
  Blork the orc (D:7)
  A manticore zombie (D:10)
  25 water moccasins
  9 agate snails
  24 insubstantial wisps
  3 draconian simulacra (IceCv)
  A cyclops skeleton (D:11)
  A wyvern skeleton (D:10)
  4 wights (D:10)
  An eye of draining (Slime:1)
  2 elephant simulacra (IceCv)
  8 jellyfish
  16 electric eels
  Dowan (D:4)
  7 crimson imps
  9 goliath beetles
  A jelly (D:9)
  12 big fish
  A black bear zombie (D:8)
  37 spiders
  30 orc priests
  21 hounds
  11 iguanas
  5 scorpions
  34 orc wizards
  40 sheep
  A rock worm simulacrum (IceCv)
  9 worker ants
  2 giant goldfish simulacra (Swamp:5)
  4 troll simulacra (IceCv)
  A killer bee zombie (D:12)
  4 centaur simulacra (IceCv)
  A brain worm zombie (D:12)
  A big kobold skeleton (D:11)
  An ogre skeleton (D:6)
  68 green rats
  24 adders
  2 giant centipedes
  5 ogre simulacra (IceCv)
  6 giant mites
  3 naga simulacra (IceCv)
  16 white imps
  12 worms
  A giant centipede zombie (D:12)
  A scorpion zombie (D:9)
  4 giant eyeballs
  16 giant geckos
  159 orcs
  A ball python (D:4)
  25 bats
  19 goblins
  18 hobgoblins
  37 jackals
  24 kobolds
  An ooze (Lair:7)
  6 giant cockroaches
  13 giant newts
  A giant spore (D:6)
  A hobgoblin zombie (D:8)
  7 quokkas
  19 rats
  A ballistomycete (D:6)
  10 fungi
  6 plants
1486 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  An orc priest (D:8)
  2 hobgoblins (D:8)
3 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An alligator (Swamp:5)
  An ogre (D:8)
  A giant gecko (D:11)
  An orc (Orc:2)
  A giant newt (D:11)
  9 fungi
  5 plants
19 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1508 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Orb Adventurer, the Minotaur Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/0
   113 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 13/26 MP: 0/0
   144 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You cover ground quickly. [potion of mutation]
   144 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in icy blue scales (AC +1). [potion of mutation]
   144 | D:1      | Gained mutation: Your flesh is heat resistant. [potion of mutation]
   290 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting
   393 | D:1      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
   620 | D:1      | Acquired Trog's second power
   943 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 29/33 MP: 1/1
  1118 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 40/40 MP: 1/1
  1324 | D:2      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  1470 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Axes
  1511 | D:3      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  1589 | D:3      | Noticed Grinder
  1603 | D:3      | Killed Grinder
  1603 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  1603 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Slings
  1603 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 47/47 MP: 1/1
  1603 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 53/53 MP: 2/2
  1615 | D:3      | Noticed CeHunt's ghost (average TrBe)
  1756 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Axes
  1889 | D:3      | Acquired Trog's third power
  1959 | D:3      | Killed CeHunt's ghost
  1959 | D:3      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 50/60 MP: 2/2
  2017 | D:4      | Noticed Duvessa
  2018 | D:4      | Noticed Dowan
  2020 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  2563 | D:4      | Killed Duvessa
  2567 | D:4      | Killed Dowan
  2943 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3007 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Axes
  3007 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  3119 | D:5      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in rough black scales (AC +4, Dex -1). [potion of mutation]
  3119 | D:5      | Gained mutation: Your system is resistant to poisons. [potion of mutation]
  3408 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 68/68 MP: 2/2
  4456 | D:7      | Reached skill level 8 in Axes
  4456 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 29/75 MP: 3/3
  4818 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5496 | D:7      | Noticed Blork the orc
  5508 | D:7      | Killed Blork the orc
  5508 | D:7      | Reached skill level 9 in Axes
  5612 | D:8      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  5663 | D:8      | Noticed a hill giant
  5670 | D:8      | Killed a hill giant
  5670 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Bows
  5760 | D:8      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
  5812 | D:8      | Noticed Fighta's ghost (experienced DDNe)
  5826 | D:8      | Killed Fighta's ghost
  5826 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  5826 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 84/84 MP: 3/5
  5830 | D:8      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  6022 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Axes
  6363 | D:8      | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
  6455 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  6482 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
  6488 | D:8      | Received a gift from Trog
  6830 | D:9      | Found Ikatwa's Distillery.
  6847 | D:9      | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 33 gold pieces
  6847 | D:9      | Bought a potion of porridge for 11 gold pieces
  6847 | D:9      | Bought a potion of mutation for 33 gold pieces
  6850 | D:9      | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute. (Int +2) [potion of mutation]
  7488 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  7586 | D:8      | Reached skill level 11 in Axes
  7949 | Orc:2    | Found Azegi's Book Boutique.
  8091 | Orc:3    | Noticed an orc warlord
  8324 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
  8723 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
  8723 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 12 in Axes
  8723 | Orc:2    | Reached XP level 11. HP: 67/93 MP: 6/6
  8960 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
  9133 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc sorcerer
  9489 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
  9500 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
  9770 | D:10     | Found Vuepip's Assorted Antiques.
  9782 | D:10     | Bought a scroll of identify for 64 gold pieces
  9782 | D:10     | Bought an encrusted glass wand for 640 gold pieces
  9909 | D:11     | Noticed a hill giant
  9916 | D:11     | Killed a hill giant
 10026 | D:11     | Received a gift from Trog
 10086 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails
 10210 | D:11     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
 10218 | D:11     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
 10327 | D:11     | Reached skill level 13 in Axes
 10700 | D:11     | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 10856 | D:11     | Received a gift from Trog
 11090 | D:12     | Found Cliossutt's Armour Emporium.
 11090 | D:12     | Found Chaplughej's General Store.
 11098 | D:12     | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 42 gold pieces
 11098 | D:12     | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces
 11098 | D:12     | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces
 11109 | D:12     | Noticed Nergalle
 11111 | D:12     | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 11116 | D:12     | Killed Nergalle
 11120 | D:12     | Killed a nine-headed hydra
 11122 | D:12     | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
 11200 | D:12     | Found Majia's General Store.
 11229 | D:12     | Bought a scroll of identify for 24 gold pieces
 11229 | D:12     | Bought a bread ration for 48 gold pieces
 11229 | D:12     | Bought a meat ration for 48 gold pieces
 11376 | D:12     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
 11394 | D:12     | Found Ummaefink's Assorted Antiques.
 11400 | D:12     | Bought a scroll of identify for 74 gold pieces
 11402 | D:12     | Noticed Maurice
 11415 | D:12     | Killed Maurice
 11415 | D:12     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 99/103 MP: 7/7
 11434 | D:12     | Reached skill level 14 in Axes
 11450 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 11490 | D:12     | Found Naaqah's Assorted Antiques.
 11709 | D:12     | Noticed Erolcha
 11724 | D:12     | Killed Erolcha
 12210 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 12378 | Lair:1   | Found a frozen archway.
 12388 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 13336 | IceCv    | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 14144 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Trog
 14799 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 14805 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 15 in Axes
 15290 | Lair:2   | Identified a +0 rod of striking (6/6) (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts)
 15510 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Trog
 15778 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 112/112 MP: 8/8
 16195 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Trog
 16227 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
 16862 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Trog
 16905 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 16 in Axes
 17104 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 17164 | Lair:4   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 17675 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 17934 | Spider:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 19601 | Lair:6   | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 19865 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 123/123 MP: 8/8
 20195 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 17 in Axes
 20664 | Lair:7   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 20665 | Lair:7   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 20831 | Slime:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Pits of Slime
 20853 | Slime:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 21335 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 22071 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 22258 | Lair:8   | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 22445 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 18 in Axes
 22874 | Lair:8   | Found a gateway to Hell.
 23749 | Spider:2 | Noticed Kirke
 23905 | Spider:2 | Noticed Nikola
 24331 | Spider:2 | Killed Kirke
 24478 | Spider:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 24489 | Spider:2 | Got a bloodstained trident {god gift}
 24556 | Spider:2 | Noticed Frances
 24572 | Spider:2 | Killed Frances
 25227 | Spider:2 | Killed Nikola
 25227 | Spider:2 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 134/134 MP: 10/10
 25493 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 19 in Axes
 26623 | Spider:3 | Noticed Arachne
 26633 | Spider:3 | Killed Arachne
 26957 | Spider:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 27569 | Spider:4 | Noticed Jorgrun
 27589 | Spider:4 | Killed Jorgrun
 27728 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 28120 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest
 28991 | Spider:5 | Reached skill level 20 in Axes
 29442 | Spider:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 29754 | Spider:5 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 121/145 MP: 0/11
 29942 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
 30510 | Orc:1    | Killed an orc sorcerer
 30529 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 30588 | Orc:2    | Found Lihopp's Jewellery Shop.
 30701 | Orc:3    | Found Grat's Food Shop.
 30747 | Orc:3    | Bought a meat ration for 40 gold pieces
 31171 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 31182 | Orc:4    | Noticed Urug
 31202 | Orc:4    | Killed Urug
 31345 | Orc:4    | Found Yxumis' Book Boutique.
 31345 | Orc:4    | Found Hyakits' General Store.
 31345 | Orc:4    | Found Skomato's Magic Scroll Shop.
 31391 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 31431 | Orc:4    | Found Shoesel's Antique Armour Shop.
 31467 | Orc:4    | Bought 2 potions of heal wounds for 78 gold pieces
 31468 | Orc:4    | Shoesel's Antique Armour Shop was a mimic.
 31479 | Orc:4    | Bought 3 scrolls of teleportation for 126 gold pieces
 31479 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of summoning for 133 gold pieces
 31479 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces
 31499 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 31961 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 21 in Axes
 32173 | Orc:2    | Found Foivyxel's Armour Shop.
 32190 | Orc:2    | Bought a +0 plate armour of fire resistance for 786 gold pieces
 32354 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 32720 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 33092 | Swamp:1  | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 33318 | Swamp:1  | You fall through a shaft!
 33549 | Swamp:2  | Received a gift from Trog
 33563 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Aizul
 33618 | Swamp:2  | Killed Aizul
 33911 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Saint Roka
 33958 | Swamp:2  | Killed Saint Roka
 34229 | Swamp:3  | Noticed Rupert
 34234 | Swamp:3  | Killed Rupert
 34532 | Swamp:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 34896 | Swamp:3  | Reached skill level 22 in Axes
 35684 | Swamp:4  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 143/155 MP: 11/11
 36083 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 36330 | Swamp:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp
 36476 | Swamp:5  | Received a gift from Trog
 36565 | Swamp:5  | Noticed Mennas
 36598 | Swamp:5  | HP: 6/155 [Mennas/blessed long sword of holy wrath (15)]


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Hand axe          |    73 |    71 |   181 |       |       |       ||   325
       War axe           |       |       |   132 |    60 |       |       ||   192
       Battleaxe         |       |       |       |   824 |  1172 |   804 ||  2800
 Fire: Sling             |       |     9 |    22 |       |       |       ||    31
       Bow               |       |       |     6 |    27 |     1 |       ||    34
Invok: Berserk           |       |     2 |     7 |     5 |     8 |     4 ||    26
       Burn Spellbooks   |       |     1 |     1 |     5 |     2 |       ||     9
       Trog's Hand       |       |       |       |     4 |     5 |     2 ||    11
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     5 |    12 |     4 |     2 ||    23
       Deck              |       |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     2
  Use: Scroll            |     7 |     1 |    13 |    19 |    24 |    14 ||    78
       Potion            |     3 |     5 |     5 |     9 |     7 |     6 ||    35
 Stab: Held in net/web   |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1


I proceeded to go to the swamp (After finishing up the orcish mines) before continuing down the dungeon. Things were going 99% smoothly for the first 4 floors of the Swamp (Saint Roka was the only thing that gave me pause, but a quick retreat and a berserk solved that problem). Things were going well in Swamp:5 until...

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 36565 | Swamp:5  | Noticed Mennas
 36598 | Swamp:5  | HP: 6/155 [Mennas/blessed long sword of holy wrath (15)]

That was way, WAY too close for comfort. Berserk ending before Mennas died (In fact, he was still at half health) didn't help...

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Post Wednesday, 1st January 2014, 19:41

Re: CiP: MiBe Best run so far

Personally, I'd train armour 100% until you are at 19 Armour (to be sure that you are over the encumbrance penalty)..
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Post Wednesday, 1st January 2014, 20:41

Re: CiP: MiBe Best run so far

skyspire wrote:Personally, I'd train armour 100% until you are at 19 Armour (to be sure that you are over the encumbrance penalty)..
This is a really bizarre and bad rule for armour training. Instead, stop training right after you gain a point of AC.

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