Now YASD : SpTm^Chei

Friday, 3rd January 2020, 11:32 by mopl

Hey folks !

I recently restarted a self-challenge of mine : winning every Tm with a "roleplay" style, playing them as primary unarmed fighters using forms, worhsipping Chei for most of them and using range/evoc/magic as support.

SpTm has been one of the hardest so far, 50 tries and only 6 of them reached level 10... (I'm too careless, ikr)

This one is a promising attempt, so I'm sharing it ! Wish me patience

Edit : I heard that Confusing Touch has been nerfed ? Is it right ? Should I invest in it ?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.25-a0-356-g7c9d860b3b (webtiles) character file. mopl the Martial Artist (Spriggan Transmuter) Turns: 39479, Time: 03:00:05 Health: 93/93 AC: 8 Str: 26 XL: 17 Next: 70% Magic: 31/31 EV: 33 Int: 30 God: Cheibriados [******] Gold: 2025 SH: 0 Dex: 33 Spells: 8/34 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis + b - +0 hunting sling rCold . . . Gourm . (shield restricted) rNeg . . . Faith . z - +3 troll leather armour {Snorg} rPois + Spirit . (helmet restricted) rElec . Reflect . N - +0 cloak {rPois} rCorr + Harm . (gloves unavailable) MR ++... (boots unavailable) Stlth ++++++.... I - amulet of magic regeneration HPRegen 0.65/turn w - ring of protection from fire MPRegen 0.47/turn B - ring of resist corrosion @: very slow A: very small, unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore, speed 3, slow metabolism 2 }: 1/15 runes: gossamer a: Bend Time, Temporal Distortion, Slouch, Step From Time, Renounce Religion You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Cheibriados. Cheibriados is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and seen 28 of its levels. You have also visited: Sewer, Ice Cave and Volcano. You have collected 3643 gold pieces. You have spent 1618 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand Weapons b - a +0 hunting sling (weapon) Missiles a - 623 arrows d - 153 sling bullets e - 84 poisoned darts h - 714 stones (quivered) j - 54 boomerangs n - 7 atropa-tipped darts r - 6 curare-tipped darts P - 2 throwing nets Armour z - a +3 troll leather armour (worn) {Snorg} N - a +0 cloak of poison resistance (worn) W - quicksilver dragon scales Jewellery w - a ring of protection from fire (left hand) A - an uncursed ring of flight B - a ring of resist corrosion (right hand) I - an amulet of magic regeneration (around neck) Wands s - a wand of clouds (10) v - a wand of digging (16) x - a wand of polymorph (22) y - a wand of iceblast (13) L - a wand of enslavement (1) Q - a wand of paralysis (1) S - a wand of flame (19) Scrolls f - 13 scrolls of teleportation i - 3 scrolls of vulnerability o - 9 scrolls of remove curse p - 8 scrolls of fog u - 2 scrolls of blinking F - 4 scrolls of immolation M - a scroll of magic mapping T - 5 scrolls of fear X - 6 scrolls of identify Y - a scroll of silence {!r} Potions k - a potion of invisibility q - 5 potions of lignification {!q} t - 5 potions of flight D - 2 potions of magic E - 3 potions of ambrosia G - 3 potions of resistance H - a potion of cancellation K - 3 potions of might O - 7 potions of heal wounds R - 6 potions of curing V - 2 potions of agility Miscellaneous l - a fan of gales C - a phial of floods U - 2 boxes of beasts Comestibles c - 21 rations Skills: * Level 11.7 Fighting + Level 2.3(9.0) Slings + Level 11.2(11.3) Throwing - Level 12.0 Dodging + Level 11.2 Stealth * Level 13.3 Unarmed Combat - Level 9.0 Spellcasting + Level 1.6 Conjurations - Level 5.0 Hexes - Level 3.0 Charms - Level 2.0 Summonings - Level 8.0 Translocations - Level 10.0 Transmutations + Level 1.7 Fire Magic - Level 3.0 Ice Magic * Level 12.8 Invocations - Level 10.0 Evocations You have 8 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Apportation Tloc ###### 1% 1 None b - Spider Form Tmut/Pois #####..... 1% 3 None c - Blade Hands Tmut ######.... 1% 5 ####... d - Ice Form Ice/Tmut ######.. 3% 4 None e - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None f - Confusing Touch Hex #####. 1% 1 None g - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire ###..... 7% 3 None h - Summon Butterflies Summ ####.... 1% 1 None s - Ozocubu's Armour Chrm/Ice ####.... 3% 3 None w - Sticks to Snakes Tmut ######.. 1% 2 None x - Animate Skeleton Necr N/A 4% 1 None Your spell library contains the following spells: Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger Beastly Appendage Tmut ###### 1% 1 None Freeze Ice #### 1% 1 None Summon Small Mammal Summ #### 1% 1 None Slow Hex #####... 1% 2 None Magic Dart Conj ###. 2% 1 None Call Imp Summ ####.... 3% 2 None Call Canine Familiar Summ ####.... 6% 3 None Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air ###..... 11% 3 None Summon Ice Beast Ice/Summ ####.... 16% 4 None Hailstorm Conj/Ice ####.... 17% 4 None Summon Mana Viper Hex/Summ ####.... 28% 5 ####... Summon Hydra Summ ####...... 100% 7 ####### Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (1/1) D:6 Lair (6/6) D:8 Swamp (0/4) Lair:2 Spider (4/4) Lair:3 Slime (0/5) Lair:6 Orc (2/2) D:9 Elf (0/3) Orc:2 Vaults (0/5) D:14 Depths (0/5) D:15 Sewer (visited) IceCv (visited) Volcano (visited) Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Qazlal Ru Sif Muna Trog Uskayaw Vehumet Wu Jian Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:5 [ D:6 ([*} D:10 = Orc:2 *[(? Annotations: D:13 3 runed translucent doors, Yxuheg's ghost, journeyman TrMo D:15 exclusion: door Spider:3 Bai Suzhen Spider:4 fustilabus + torment Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are very small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are too small for most types of armour. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv) You are a herbivore. You cover ground extremely quickly. You need to consume almost no food. Message History There is a stone staircase leading up here. You climb upwards. There is a stone staircase leading down here. There is a stone staircase leading up here. You climb upwards. There is a stone staircase leading down here. There is an open door here. There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here. You climb upwards. Welcome back to the Dungeon! There is a staircase to the Lair here. You see here a +0 robe. You climb downwards. Welcome back to the Lair of Beasts! There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here. Items here: !!! = ??????? [[ ||| } Drop what? 52/52 slots (_ for help) (? for menu, Esc to quit) You drop a scroll of enchant weapon. You drop a scroll of holy word. You drop 2 scrolls of enchant armour. You drop 3 potions of mutation {!q}. 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Friday, 3rd January 2020, 16:12 by Siegurt

mopl wrote:I heard that Confusing Touch has been nerfed ? Is it right ? Should I invest in it ?

The most recent change was to make it not require you be unarmed (it works with a weapon just as well as it does with no weapon)

This is actually a buff, not a nerf, but means it's no longer particularly better for transmuters than it is for other builds, but doesn't mean it's any *worse* for transmuters

In terms of actually *investing* in it, you should absolutely memorize it, it's super good for a level 1 spell, but there's not much point in going out of your way to train skills for it, more spellpower just means it lasts longer(it doesn't change it's effectiveness, just it's efficiency) And you should have enough spellcasting and int to max out the success chance for a level 1 spell.

Be aware that it never gets better, it's as good as it is, but it won't be very good against a subset of higher-HD creatures and that's fine, you can also now target stuff and see what your confusing touch chances are on hit while the spell is active, so you can get a decent idea of what it will and will not be effective against.

It did get a nerf, several years ago, to make it's effectiveness fall off slightly more quickly against higher-HD creatures, but I doubt that's the nerf you're talking about.

Saturday, 4th January 2020, 05:26 by mopl

I always underestimate those jellies

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.25-a0-356-g7c9d860b3b (webtiles) character file. Game seed: 4954363823716013888, levelgen mode: deterministic 552564 mopl the Black Belt (level 25, -5/140 HPs) Began as a Spriggan Transmuter on Jan 2, 2020. Was the Champion of Cheibriados. Slain by an acid blob (32 damage) ... on level 4 of the Pits of Slime on Jan 3, 2020. The game lasted 05:55:57 (67772 turns). mopl the Black Belt (Spriggan Transmuter) Turns: 67772, Time: 05:55:58 Health: -5/140 AC: 19 Str: 27 XL: 25 Next: 59% Magic: 44/54 EV: 37 Int: 36 God: Cheibriados [******] Gold: 3426 SH: 0 Dex: 38 Spells: 2/56 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis + - Unarmed rCold . . . Gourm . (shield currently unavailable) rNeg . . . Faith . B - +0 acid dragon scales rPois + Spirit . S - +3 hat of Pondering {ponderous, MR+ MP+10 Int+5} rElec . Reflect . N - +1 cloak {rPois} rCorr + Harm . (gloves unavailable) MR +++++ (boots unavailable) Stlth +++++++... I - amulet of regeneration HPRegen 0.73/turn w - ring of Syndicalism {rF+ Dex+4 Slay+3} MPRegen 0.34/turn g - ring of Robustness {AC+8} @: blade hands, very slow A: very small, unfitting armour, see invisible, herbivore, speed 3, slow metabolism 2, weak 1 }: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer a: End Transformation, Bend Time, Temporal Distortion, Slouch, Step From Time, Renounce Religion You were on level 4 of the Pits of Slime. You worshipped Cheibriados. Cheibriados was exalted by your worship. You were hungry. You had blades for hands. You visited 10 branches of the dungeon, and saw 48 of its levels. You visited 1 bazaar. You also visited: Sewer, Ice Cave, Volcano and Desolation. You collected 7068 gold pieces. You spent 3642 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand Weapons b - a +7 fustibalus of venom (melded) Missiles a - 1608 arrows d - 323 sling bullets h - 1235 stones (quivered) j - 71 boomerangs n - 14 atropa-tipped darts r - 6 curare-tipped darts P - 4 throwing nets Armour m - a +0 buckler of resistance (melded) B - +0 acid dragon scales (worn) N - a +1 cloak of poison resistance (worn) S - the +3 hat of Pondering (worn) {ponderous, MR+ MP+10 Int+5} (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls) It affects your intelligence (+5). It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It affects your magic capacity (+10). Jewellery g - the ring of Robustness (right scythe-like blade) {AC+8} (You found it on level 1 of the Vaults) [ring of protection] It affects your AC (+8). w - the ring of Syndicalism (left scythe-like blade) {rF+ Dex+4 Slay+3} (You took it off a deep elf blademaster on level 3 of the Elven Halls) [ring of protection from fire] It affects your dexterity (+4). It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks (+3). It protects you from fire. A - the ring of Darkness {Wiz rF+ rC+ Int+4} (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls) [ring of wizardry] It improves your spell success rate. It affects your intelligence (+4). It protects you from fire. It protects you from cold. I - an amulet of regeneration (around neck) Wands s - a wand of enslavement (2) v - a wand of clouds (12) x - a wand of digging (25) y - a wand of iceblast (28) J - a wand of acid (22) L - a wand of polymorph (21) Q - a wand of paralysis (9) Z - a wand of disintegration (17) Scrolls f - 17 scrolls of teleportation i - 6 scrolls of vulnerability o - 15 scrolls of remove curse p - 10 scrolls of fog u - 4 scrolls of blinking F - 4 scrolls of immolation M - 4 scrolls of magic mapping T - 5 scrolls of fear X - 9 scrolls of identify Potions k - 4 potions of invisibility q - 8 potions of lignification {!q} t - 8 potions of flight D - 6 potions of magic E - 5 potions of ambrosia G - 7 potions of resistance H - 3 potions of cancellation K - 5 potions of might O - 5 potions of heal wounds R - 12 potions of curing V - 8 potions of agility Miscellaneous e - 2 phantom mirrors l - a fan of gales C - a phial of floods (inert) U - 5 boxes of beasts W - a lightning rod (4/4) Y - a lamp of fire Comestibles c - 22 rations Skills: * Level 17.3 Fighting - Level 5.0(13.0) Slings + Level 15.5(15.7) Throwing + Level 15.3 Dodging - Level 15.0 Stealth - Level 7.2 Shields * Level 18.2 Unarmed Combat + Level 16.2 Spellcasting - Level 5.0 Conjurations - Level 5.0 Hexes - Level 8.0 Charms - Level 2.0 Summonings - Level 3.0 Necromancy - Level 9.0 Translocations + Level 15.3 Transmutations - Level 3.0 Fire Magic - Level 3.0 Ice Magic - Level 6.0 Earth Magic - Level 13.0 Invocations + Level 15.2 Evocations You had 2 spell levels left. You knew the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Apportation Tloc ###### 5% 1 None b - Spider Form Tmut/Pois ######.... 9% 3 None c - Blade Hands Tmut #######... 7% 5 None d - Ice Form Ice/Tmut #######. 11% 4 None e - Blink Tloc N/A 6% 2 None f - Confusing Touch Hex ###### 9% 1 None g - Conjure Flame Conj/Fire ######.. 14% 3 None h - Summon Butterflies Summ #####... 13% 1 None i - Irradiate Conj/Tmut #######... 13% 5 None j - Song of Slaying Chrm ######.. 7% 2 None k - Petrify Tmut/Erth #######. 9% 4 None p - Passwall Tmut/Erth #######. 4% 2 None r - Regeneration Chrm/Necr ######.... 12% 3 None s - Ozocubu's Armour Chrm/Ice ######.. 12% 3 None w - Sticks to Snakes Tmut #######. 3% 2 None x - Animate Skeleton Necr N/A 11% 1 None y - Yara's Violent Unrav Hex/Tmut #######... 13% 5 None D - Dragon Form Tmut #######... 22% 7 ###.... Your spell library contained the following spells: Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger Beastly Appendage Tmut ###### 3% 1 None Infusion Chrm #### 6% 1 None Shroud of Golubria Chrm/Tloc ###### 6% 2 None Sandblast Erth ###### 8% 1 None Corona Hex ######. 9% 1 None Magic Dart Conj #### 9% 1 None Foxfire Conj/Fire #### 10% 1 None Slow Hex ######.. 10% 2 None Freeze Ice #### 11% 1 None Pain Necr #### 11% 1 None Ensorcelled Hibernation Hex/Ice ###### 11% 2 None Swiftness Chrm/Air ######.. 11% 2 None Summon Small Mammal Summ #### 13% 1 None Sublimation of Blood Necr ######.... 13% 2 None Call Imp Summ #####... 16% 2 None Poisonous Vapours Pois/Air ####.. 22% 2 None Gell's Gravitas Tloc #######... 7% 3 None Lesser Beckoning Tloc #######... 7% 3 None Teleport Other Tloc #######. 7% 3 None Portal Projectile Hex/Tloc ###### 10% 3 None Spectral Weapon Hex/Chrm ######.. 10% 3 None Ignite Poison Fire/Tmut/Pois ######.. 11% 3 None Passage of Golubria Tloc N/A 11% 4 None Confuse Hex ######.. 12% 3 None Dazzling Flash Conj/Hex ###### 12% 3 None Stone Arrow Conj/Erth ###### 12% 3 None Tukima's Dance Hex ######.. 12% 3 None Inner Flame Hex/Fire ######.. 14% 3 None Summon Guardian Golem Hex/Summ ######.. 16% 3 None Call Canine Familiar Summ #####... 21% 3 None Cause Fear Hex ######.... 21% 4 None Fulminant Prism Conj/Hex ######.... 21% 4 None Alistair's Intoxication Tmut/Pois ######.. 21% 5 None Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air #####... 22% 3 None Hailstorm Conj/Ice ######.. 26% 4 None Lee's Rapid Deconstruct Erth ######.... 28% 5 None Excruciating Wounds Chrm/Necr ######.... 30% 5 None Summon Ice Beast Ice/Summ #####... 34% 4 None Bolt of Magma Conj/Fire/Erth ######.... 36% 5 None Summon Lightning Spire Summ/Air #####... 45% 4 None Summon Mana Viper Hex/Summ ######.. 45% 5 None Eringya's Noxious Bog Tmut/Pois ######.... 45% 6 None Agony Necr ######.. 50% 5 None Darkness Hex ######.... 73% 6 None Invisibility Hex ######.. 73% 6 None Simulacrum Ice/Necr ######.... 90% 6 None Freezing Cloud Conj/Ice/Air #####..... 92% 6 None Malign Gateway Summ/Tloc ######.... 98% 7 ###.... Ring of Flames Chrm/Fire ######.... 98% 7 ###.... Monstrous Menagerie Summ #####..... 100% 7 ###.... Summon Greater Demon Summ #####..... 100% 7 ###.... Summon Hydra Summ #####..... 100% 7 ###.... Chain Lightning Conj/Air #####..... 100% 8 #####.. Ignition Fire ######.... 100% 8 #####.. Lehudib's Crystal Spear Conj/Erth ######.... 100% 8 #####.. Summon Horrible Things Summ #####..... 100% 8 #####.. Dragon's Call Summ #####..... 100% 9 ######. Fire Storm Conj/Fire ######.... 100% 9 ######. Glaciate Conj/Ice ######.... 100% 9 ######. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (1/1) D:6 Lair (6/6) D:8 Swamp (4/4) Lair:2 Spider (4/4) Lair:3 Slime (4/5) Lair:6 Orc (2/2) D:9 Elf (3/3) Orc:2 Vaults (4/5) D:14 Crypt (0/3) Vaults:3 Depths (5/5) D:15 Zot (0/5) Depths:5 Sewer (visited) IceCv (visited) Volcano (visited) Desolation (visited) Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Qazlal Ru Sif Muna Trog Uskayaw Vehumet Wu Jian Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:5 [ D:6 ([*} D:10 = Orc:2 *[(? Elf:1 }=} Vaults:1 ? Depths:4 = Portals: Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5 Abyss: Depths:4 Pandemonium: Depths:3 Depths:4 Ziggurat: Depths:3 Trove: Vaults:2 (give 8 scrolls of blinking) Annotations: Spider:3 Bai Suzhen Spider:4 torment Vaults:2 contam relec rf ring Vaults:3 FDA + mut Depths:4 mut + faith + relec crown, 3 runed translucent doors, Ywomigaa's ghost, master FoFi Depths:5 IDA Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are very small and have problems with some larger weapons. You are too small for most types of armour. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv) You are a herbivore. You cover ground extremely quickly. You need to consume almost no food. You are weak. (Str -2) Message History * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * You are splashed with acid. You resist. * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * The acid blob completely misses you. The acid blob spits acid at you. The splash of acid hits you but does no damage. You are splashed with acid! You resist. * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * Okay, then. Unknown command. You feel much better. The acid blob spits acid at you. The splash of acid misses you. The acid blob spits acid at you. The splash of acid hits you. You resist. * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * You are splashed with acid. You resist. * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * The acid blob hits you!! You die... .. ........ #.# ###.#...... ##.###.......... #...#..........# #..#.#........# ........#.....#. #.....JJ...... #...@JJ.(.((. #.....J..#.... ........G..# . .##.###.....# # #......# #..##.## .... ## #^.# You could see 4 acid blobs, a slime creature and a glowing orange brain.

Saturday, 4th January 2020, 09:54 by petercordia

Wouldn't Spriggan Transmuters be better with some other god?
If I wanted to use UC transmutations as the primary offence on a Spriggan I'd go Ru or Wu Jian, or something like that, so that you can still run away.

Saturday, 4th January 2020, 14:11 by mopl

Of course they would, Chei is a self-imposed challenge

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