CiP: I still suck, now its HaAE

Wednesday, 29th July 2015, 20:38 by njvack

I dunno. I like having a ranged attack to soften monsters up as they approach; why spend a turn not damaging a monster when you could be damaging it? I would probably not look to ranged as a primary damage output, but it's cheap to get 8-ish levels.

But yeah, I would not invest a bunch in ranged now.

Thursday, 30th July 2015, 08:35 by thevogonpoet

Fuuuuuuck. This is why I suck. I thought to myself, crap, I should blink, or drink some heal wounds. Then I thought, nah, he is almost dead, hit him again. Did I use haste, might or agility? Nope. Did I die in a protracted battle with blink scrolls in my inventory? Yep. Divno.

Code:: Wiglaf barely misses you. Unknown command. You puncture Wiglaf! Wiglaf is almost dead. The trapdoor spider closely misses you. The trapdoor spider barely misses you. Wiglaf hits you with a war axe of chopping!! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * x2 Unknown command. A trapdoor spider hides itself under the floor. x2 A trapdoor spider leaps out from its hiding place under the floor! A trapdoor spider hides itself under the floor. You flicker for a moment. Drink which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit) Okay, then. Wiglaf blocks your attack. x2 Wiglaf is almost dead. Wiglaf hits you with a war axe of chopping!!! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * You die... Fedhas appreciates your contribution to the ecosystem. .#.....#.##....^....#....#### ..............<..s..#..^## .......#..#.^..^.###.....# #........<..#....#...#.(##### ##.#....^.#.....##...###.((.. #...#....#...###....###..#([ ##^####.....#^#............. ... ###......##.#........# .## ##....g@.......# # #.#..##..#....# ....###.......## #.#....#^....<...### #. #...#..........#.## # ....#....#.#.......## [...........#...#....# ...........^##......## .#.......###.....^#

My best ever Centaur, fail.

Ok, I need a rest from Ce of Fedhas, need a fresh power combo I suck at... Og/Tr Hu/Wr perhaps? Or a Naga, whats an awesome build for a Naga?

Thursday, 30th July 2015, 14:33 by njvack

Sucks, man. I die this way too often.

Wiglaf definitely warrants at least haste and probably !might. You had 10. Stick to the "I've lost the fight at 50% health" rule and you will be happier -- it (usually) lets you try out a fight and come back buffed. Or with an oklob laying down covering fire. Having an oklob or two in a branch end isn't a bad plan in general; you can walk dangerous dudes over to its area.

Also, you had "Regen and were wearing "Gourmand. Stacking regeneration is great; you had plenty of food for spider.

Naga combos... NaIE? NaNe? NaEn^Kiku? Stab things and use a pain dagger? I killed a naga in basically the same way. I'd acquired the Lightning Scales. Still ghhhhhhhrrrr about that one.

I'm still a huge fan of TrEE^Chei. It's fun to have high-powered conjurations on a troll, and cheistats mean you can get non-awful EV.

Thursday, 30th July 2015, 14:42 by bel

NaTm is good in itself, also you can run away if you are in spider/ice form, IIRC.

Thursday, 30th July 2015, 15:39 by njvack

I've always had a hard time with Tm starts. They seem like they should be good, but it's pretty XP hungry -- you want unarmed, and tmut, and poison, and ice, and oh yeah you probably want some dodging and stealth soon-ish...

Monday, 3rd August 2015, 18:39 by thevogonpoet

Well I just ticked Dr off my looooong list - started as a FE, so of course, Veh just offered me ice spells, then I turned white, then I found Occu's armour in a random book... so ended up casting Glaciate again... feels like ages since I last cast Fire Storm.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1633-g92a3a4e (console) character file. 1458791 vogonpoet the Cryomancer (level 27, 246/246 HPs) Began as a White Draconian Fire Elementalist on July 30, 2015. Was the Champion of Vehumet. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes on Aug 3, 2015! The game lasted 16:07:26 (121898 turns). vogonpoet the Cryomancer (DrFE) Turns: 121898, Time: 16:07:26 Health: 246/246 AC: 26 Str: 17 XL: 27 Magic: 42/50 EV: 25 Int: 28 God: Vehumet [******] Gold: 3358 SH: 10 Dex: 13 Spells: 14 memorised, 2 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis + a - staff of energy rCold + . . Clarity . (armour unavailable) rNeg . . . SustAt . h - +3 buckler {AC+3} rPois + Gourm . l - +2 hat rElec . Spirit . S - +4 dragonskin cloak rCorr + Warding . Z - +1 pair of gloves of Gusis {*Drain MR+ rCorr Int+4} rMut + Stasis . g - +0 pair of boots of the Ten Deaths {+Inv rPois rF+ MP+9} MR +++.. w - amulet of resist mutation Stlth +......... y - ring of Noon {Wiz rPois Str+3} P - ring of see invisible @: repel missiles, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, very unstealthy A: breathe frost, unfitting armour, big wings, cold resistance 1, low mp 1, sense surroundings 1, cold-blooded, AC +13 a: Breathe Frost, Fly, Renounce Religion, Evoke Invisibility 0: Orb of Zot }: 3/15 runes: decaying, serpentine, silver You escaped. You worshipped Vehumet. Vehumet was exalted by your worship. You were completely stuffed. You visited 11 branches of the dungeon, and saw 57 of its levels. You also visited: Labyrinth, Trove, Bailey and Wizlab. You collected 10326 gold pieces. You spent 6968 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Missiles T - 10 throwing nets (quivered) Armour g - the +0 pair of boots of the Ten Deaths (worn) {+Inv rPois rF+ MP+9} (You acquired it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts) It protects you from fire. It protects you from poison. It affects your magic capacity (+9). It lets you turn invisible. h - a +3 buckler of protection (worn) l - a +2 hat (worn) S - the +4 dragonskin cloak (worn) (You took it off Tiamat on level 4 of the Realm of Zot) Z - the +1 pair of gloves of Gusis (worn) {*Drain MR+ rCorr Int+4} (You found it on level 2 of the Depths) It affects your intelligence (+4). It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It protects you from acid and corrosion. It causes draining when unequipped. Magical staves a - an uncursed staff of energy (weapon) m - an uncursed staff of conjuration Rods i - a +5 rod of destruction (12/12) (You found it on level 4 of the Depths) o - a +3 rod of inaccuracy (12/12) (You took it off a minotaur in a labyrinth) Jewellery d - the ring "Natim" {+Blink rElec MP+9} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines) [ring of magical power] It insulates you from electricity. It affects your magic capacity (+9). It lets you blink. q - the amulet "Alal" {Ward rF+ rN+} (You took it off a deep elf mage on level 3 of the Elven Halls) [amulet of warding] It may prevent the melee attacks of summoned creatures. It protects you from fire. It protects you from negative energy. t - an uncursed amulet of regeneration w - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck) y - the ring of Noon (right hand) {Wiz rPois Str+3} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines) [ring of wizardry] It improves your spell success rate. It affects your strength (+3). It protects you from poison. E - the ring "Hef Wufu" {rPois MR+ Int+8} (You took it off a vault warden on level 5 of the Vaults) [ring of protection from magic] It affects your intelligence (+8). It protects you from poison. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. I - an uncursed amulet of the gourmand P - a ring of see invisible (left hand) U - an uncursed ring of protection from fire Magical devices c - a wand of hasting (5) e - a wand of invisibility (4) f - a wand of hasting (5) z - a wand of digging (14) B - a wand of teleportation (3) F - a wand of teleportation (5) O - a wand of heal wounds (5) Scrolls b - 2 scrolls of amnesia p - 28 scrolls of remove curse r - 12 scrolls of teleportation s - 8 scrolls of fog v - 3 scrolls of fear x - 9 scrolls of enchant armour A - 6 scrolls of holy word C - 5 scrolls of identify G - 12 scrolls of magic mapping K - 6 scrolls of blinking L - 5 scrolls of recharging Potions n - a potion of cancellation J - 4 potions of agility M - 3 potions of resistance N - 17 potions of curing Q - 5 potions of haste R - 11 potions of brilliance V - 3 potions of cure mutation W - 3 potions of heal wounds X - 8 potions of might Books D - a Necronomicon Spells Type Level a - Haunt Necromancy/Summoning 7 b - Borgnjor's Revivification Necromancy 8 c - Death's Door Charms/Necromancy 8 d - Necromutation Transmutation/Necromancy 8 Miscellaneous j - a lamp of fire u - a fan of gales Y - a phial of floods Comestibles k - 20 bread rations Skills: - Level 20.2 Fighting Level 3.1 Short Blades + Level 21.1 Dodging - Level 5.1 Stealth - Level 11.0 Shields - Level 19.1 Spellcasting - Level 21.1 Conjurations - Level 13.8 Charms - Level 8.4 Necromancy - Level 14.6 Translocations - Level 6.0 Fire Magic - Level 25.0 Ice Magic - Level 6.1 Air Magic - Level 2.4 Earth Magic - Level 9.4 Evocations You had 2 spell levels left. You knew the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Glaciate Conj/Ice ########.. 2% 9 None b - Bolt of Cold Conj/Ice ########.. 1% 6 None c - Freezing Cloud Conj/Ice/Air #######... 1% 6 None d - Sticky Flame Conj/Fire #######. 1% 4 None e - Iskenderun's Battles Conj/Chrm #######. 1% 5 None f - Fireball Conj/Fire #######... 1% 5 None g - Regeneration Chrm/Necr ######.... 1% 3 None h - Haste Chrm #######. 1% 6 None k - Controlled Blink Tloc N/A 1% 7 None p - Apportation Tloc #######... 0% 1 None r - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air ###### 1% 2 None s - Sublimation of Blood Necr ######.... 1% 2 None t - Stone Arrow Conj/Erth ###### 1% 3 None z - Ozocubu's Armour Chrm/Ice #######. 0% 3 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (1/1) D:5 Lair (8/8) D:8 Swamp (4/4) Lair:5 Snake (4/4) Lair:5 Slime (0/6) Lair:6 Orc (4/4) D:12 Elf (3/3) Orc:3 Vaults (5/5) D:14 Crypt (3/3) Vaults:2 Tomb (0/3) Crypt:3 Depths (5/5) D:15 Zot (5/5) Depths:5 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Qazlal Ru Sif Muna Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Beogh Lugonu Shops: Orc:2 %[?= Orc:4 [((% Elf:3 * Snake:4 !!? Vaults:1 : Vaults:4 } Portals: Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5 Abyss: Depths:4 Depths:5 Pandemonium: Depths:3 Depths:4 Ziggurat: Depths:3 Annotations: D:4 Grinder Lair:8 comborobin's ghost, powerful OpEn Swamp:4 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne Elf:2 3 runed doors Crypt:2 3 runed doors, exclusion: 3 doors Depths:4 3 runed doors Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You can breathe waves of freezing cold. You can buffet flying creatures when you breathe cold. Your icy white scales are hard (AC +13). Your body does not fit into most forms of armour. Your flesh is cold resistant. You are cold-blooded and may be slowed by cold attacks. Your large and strong wings let you fly indefinitely. Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). You passively map a small area around you. Message History Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells. You conjure a globe of magical energy. You swap places. Casting: Iskenderun's Battlesphere Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells. Aiming: Fireball Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - ice devil Aim: an ice devil The fireball explodes! The fireball engulfs the ice devil. The ice devil is burned terribly! The ice devil is severely wounded. Your battlesphere fires! The barrage of energy hits the ice devil. You kill the ice devil! Vehumet accepts your kill. You feel your power returning. You see here 14 poisoned needles. There is an open door here. There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here. You have escaped! ### ######## ###@### .......# #.#*#.# ######.# #♣.....♣# #.# #≈♣...♣≈# ###.# #≈≈♣.♣≈≈# ####.#.######≈≈♣.♣≈≈# .##.#.......##≈♣.♣≈## ^.......########'### (.#####.# #.#..# There were no monsters in sight! Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | vogonpoet the Draconian Fire Elementalist began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 3/3 568 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 20/20 MP: 1/5 1065 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/26 MP: 4/6 1072 | D:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame 1568 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 31/33 MP: 1/7 2962 | D:3 | Noticed a sky beast 2969 | D:3 | Killed a sky beast 2969 | D:3 | Reached skill level 4 in Conjurations 2969 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 29/38 MP: 2/9 3299 | D:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Flame 3304 | D:3 | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame 3451 | D:4 | Noticed a phantom 3555 | D:4 | Noticed vogonpoet's ghost (average DgCj) 3571 | D:4 | Killed vogonpoet's ghost 3571 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 3571 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 3571 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 23/45 MP: 1/10 3711 | D:3 | Your scales start taking on an icy white colour. 3711 | D:3 | Gained mutation: Your flesh is cold resistant. [White Draconian growth] 3711 | D:3 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 48/50 MP: 6/11 4375 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 4384 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 4384 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 4451 | D:4 | Got a spiked cloak 4889 | D:4 | Reached skill level 6 in Conjurations 4970 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 5030 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder 5030 | D:5 | Paralysed by Grinder for 4 turns 5455 | D:4 | Paralysed by Grinder for 7 turns 5514 | D:5 | HP: 2/50 [gnoll/spear of flaming (6)] 5540 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 5/57 MP: 5/12 5853 | D:5 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 5858 | D:5 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 5887 | D:5 | Identified the +1 cloak "Soefok" {rN+ Stlth+} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon) 5926 | D:5 | Noticed Edmund 5971 | D:5 | Killed Edmund 6305 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Conjurations 6375 | D:5 | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari. 6743 | D:5 | Noticed Pikel 6757 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 6757 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 6998 | D:5 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 7004 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 7159 | D:5 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 7771 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 57/62 MP: 0/13 8473 | D:6 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 8612 | D:7 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 8641 | D:7 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 8641 | D:7 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 8674 | D:7 | Found a flagged portal. 8683 | Bailey | Entered a bailey 9063 | Bailey | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 9246 | D:7 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru. 9246 | D:7 | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal. 9246 | D:7 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 9315 | D:7 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 9316 | D:7 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 9320 | D:7 | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 9432 | D:7 | You fall through a shaft for 2 floors! 9432 | D:9 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 9436 | D:9 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 9722 | D:9 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 9856 | D:9 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 9874 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 10166 | D:7 | Reached skill level 8 in Dodging 10549 | D:7 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 10939 | D:7 | Acquired Vehumet's first power 10939 | D:7 | Offered knowledge of Magic Dart by Vehumet. 10960 | D:7 | Learned a level 1 spell: Magic Dart 11044 | D:8 | Noticed comborobin's ghost (experienced OpEn) 11088 | D:8 | Killed comborobin's ghost 11088 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 58/69 MP: 12/19 11399 | D:8 | Reached skill level 9 in Dodging 11993 | D:9 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 12146 | D:9 | Offered knowledge of Throw Frost by Vehumet. 12425 | D:9 | Noticed a fire dragon 12428 | D:9 | Noticed a giant orange brain 12517 | D:9 | You fall through a shaft for 3 floors! 12746 | D:12 | Noticed a purple ugly thing 13007 | D:12 | Reached skill level 11 in Dodging 13348 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 13523 | D:10 | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu. 13529 | D:10 | Noticed Nergalle 13613 | D:10 | Noticed a green ugly thing 13633 | D:10 | Killed a green ugly thing 14110 | D:10 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 67/74 MP: 17/20 14354 | D:10 | Killed Nergalle 14647 | D:10 | Offered knowledge of Stone Arrow by Vehumet. 14727 | D:10 | Learned a level 3 spell: Stone Arrow 15612 | D:11 | Noticed an unseen horror 15614 | D:11 | Killed an unseen horror 15734 | D:11 | Acquired Vehumet's second power 15756 | D:11 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball 15777 | D:11 | Noticed an unseen horror 15779 | D:11 | Killed an unseen horror 15954 | D:11 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 15984 | D:11 | Killed a four-headed hydra 15984 | D:11 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 16142 | D:11 | Noticed a hill giant 16148 | D:11 | Killed a hill giant 16485 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 16722 | Lair:1 | Found a labyrinth entrance. 16738 | Lab | Entered a labyrinth 17427 | Lab | Learned a level 3 spell: Passwall 17944 | Lab | Noticed a minotaur 17972 | Lab | Killed a minotaur 18002 | Lab | Identified the Papyrus of the Glacier and Attacks 18003 | Lab | Got a shimmering great mace 18004 | Lab | Identified a +3 rod of inaccuracy (3/12) (You took it off a minotaur in a labyrinth) 18005 | Lab | Identified the +7 great mace of Dominance {flame, Str+4} (You found it in a labyrinth) 18997 | Lair:2 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 81/81 MP: 22/22 19129 | Lair:2 | Offered knowledge of Static Discharge by Vehumet. 19699 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle 19722 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic 19805 | Lair:2 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 19892 | Lair:2 | Killed a five-headed hydra 20105 | Lair:2 | Acquired Vehumet's third power 20629 | Lair:3 | Offered knowledge of Force Lance by Vehumet. 21226 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 21976 | Lair:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic 22373 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic 23801 | Lair:5 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 77/86 MP: 27/27 23843 | Lair:5 | Noticed a naga warrior 23863 | Lair:5 | Offered knowledge of Lightning Bolt by Vehumet. 23893 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 23966 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades 24696 | Lair:5 | Learned a level 6 spell: Freezing Cloud 24897 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 24897 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic 25126 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 25718 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 26178 | Lair:7 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 26179 | Lair:7 | Got a pair of ichor-stained boots 26180 | Lair:7 | Identified the +0 pair of boots of the Ten Deaths {+Inv rPois rF+ MP+9} (You acquired it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts) 26526 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic 26698 | Lair:7 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Cold by Vehumet. 26878 | Lair:5 | Killed a naga warrior 27007 | Lair:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Cold 27853 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Ice Magic 28541 | Lair:7 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 104/104 MP: 28/28 28636 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 28703 | Lair:7 | Offered knowledge of Poison Arrow by Vehumet. 28708 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 12 in Conjurations 28818 | Lair:8 | Noticed comborobin's ghost (powerful OpEn) 29722 | D:12 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 29727 | D:12 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 29766 | D:12 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru. 29903 | D:12 | Noticed a cyclops 29907 | D:12 | Killed a cyclops 29930 | D:12 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 30067 | D:12 | Killed a purple ugly thing 30097 | D:12 | Killed an unseen horror 31492 | D:13 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 32401 | D:14 | Noticed a hill giant 32409 | D:14 | Killed a hill giant 33248 | D:14 | Found a gate to the Vaults. 33846 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 34405 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 34417 | Orc:1 | Offered knowledge of Delayed Fireball by Vehumet. 34427 | Orc:1 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 121/121 MP: 25/31 34771 | Orc:1 | Noticed Harold 34776 | Orc:1 | Killed Harold 35252 | Orc:2 | Found Fanweap's Magic Scroll Shoppe. 35538 | Orc:3 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 35627 | Orc:3 | Noticed Rupert 35693 | Orc:3 | Killed Rupert 35693 | Orc:3 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Fire by Vehumet. 35911 | Orc:3 | Noticed Maurice 35923 | Orc:3 | Killed Maurice 36232 | Orc:2 | Found Agunaon's Food Shoppe. 36420 | Orc:2 | Found Levirofu's Armour Emporium. 36457 | Orc:2 | Found Codoe's Jewellery Emporium. 36708 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 37242 | Orc:4 | Noticed Snorg 37250 | Orc:4 | Killed Snorg 37426 | Orc:4 | Upgraded the game from 0.17-a0-1591-g7a45446 to 0.17-a0-1596-g1e86911 37829 | Orc:4 | Offered knowledge of Ozocubu's Refrigeration by Vehumet. 37843 | Orc:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 37914 | Orc:4 | Found Derablen's Antique Weapon Shoppe. 37914 | Orc:4 | Found Zost's Armour Shop. 37925 | Orc:4 | Found Akhleita's Food Shoppe. 37925 | Orc:4 | Found Woekhlihuh's Antique Weapon Shop. 37940 | Orc:4 | Bought a +1 pair of gloves for 172 gold pieces 37961 | Orc:4 | Bought a faintly glowing rapier for 207 gold pieces 37962 | Orc:4 | Identified the +4 rapier "Tyzxin" {vamp, +Blink +Fly rElec rF+ Dex-3} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) 37966 | Orc:4 | Bought a steaming dagger for 231 gold pieces 37967 | Orc:4 | Identified the +7 dagger "Ricsaut" {flame, *Noise Dex+5} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) 38042 | Orc:2 | Bought the ring "Natim" {+Blink rElec MP+9} for 615 gold pieces 38042 | Orc:2 | Bought an uncursed amulet of the gourmand for 450 gold pieces 38042 | Orc:2 | Bought the ring of Noon {Wiz rPois Str+3} for 712 gold pieces 38042 | Orc:2 | Bought a cursed ring of see invisible for 180 gold pieces 38060 | Orc:2 | Gained mutation: You passively map a small area around you. [potion of beneficial mutation] 38673 | Snake:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit 38688 | Snake:1 | Noticed Donald 38715 | Snake:1 | Killed Donald 38776 | Snake:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 39456 | Snake:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields 40552 | Snake:1 | Reached skill level 13 in Conjurations 40684 | Snake:2 | Offered knowledge of Conjure Ball Lightning by Vehumet. 41894 | Snake:3 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 136/136 MP: 32/32 42234 | Snake:3 | Noticed Nikola 42269 | Snake:3 | Killed Nikola 42744 | Snake:3 | Noticed Norris 42744 | Snake:3 | Paralysed by Norris for 5 turns 42773 | Snake:3 | Paralysed by Norris for 5 turns 42780 | Snake:3 | Killed Norris 42948 | Snake:3 | Noticed Wiglaf 43177 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp 43453 | Swamp:1 | Reached skill level 14 in Conjurations 43660 | Swamp:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 44716 | Swamp:2 | Got an encrusted dagger 44744 | Swamp:2 | Identified the +2 dagger "Veozoar" {pierce, rElec MR+} (You found it on level 2 of the Swamp) 46820 | Swamp:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 46857 | Swamp:3 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 47374 | Swamp:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp 48209 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Sublimation of Blood 48426 | Swamp:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy 48602 | Swamp:4 | Noticed Mara 48953 | Lair:5 | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration 48961 | Lair:5 | Learned a level 5 spell: Iskenderun's Battlesphere 49071 | Swamp:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 49077 | Swamp:4 | Noticed vogonpoet's illusion 49277 | Snake:3 | Killed Wiglaf 49549 | Snake:3 | Noticed Vashnia 50015 | Snake:3 | Killed Vashnia 50015 | Snake:3 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 40/148 MP: 10/34 50362 | Snake:3 | Noticed Aizul 50370 | Snake:3 | Killed Aizul 50591 | Snake:3 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 51190 | Snake:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Snake Pit 51465 | Snake:4 | Offered knowledge of Lehudib's Crystal Spear by Vehumet. 51465 | Snake:4 | Offered knowledge of Fire Storm by Vehumet. 51465 | Snake:4 | Offered knowledge of Glaciate by Vehumet. 51694 | Snake:4 | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon. 51985 | Snake:4 | Found Vumunol's Distillery. 51992 | Snake:4 | Bought a potion of haste for 220 gold pieces 51992 | Snake:4 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 110 gold pieces 51992 | Snake:4 | Bought a potion of resistance for 220 gold pieces 52147 | Snake:4 | Found Maufyixo's Magic Scroll Shoppe. 52163 | Snake:4 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 57 gold pieces 52163 | Snake:4 | Bought a scroll of fog for 38 gold pieces 54725 | Snake:4 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 158/160 MP: 29/35 56433 | Snake:4 | Found Ladducopn's Distillery. 57006 | Snake:4 | Got a serpentine rune of Zot 57552 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults 57752 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations 58392 | D:15 | Found a staircase to the Depths. 58409 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths 58942 | D:15 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 60569 | Vaults:1 | Found Ruah's Book Shoppe. 60726 | Vaults:1 | Bought a book of Frost for 385 gold pieces 60731 | Vaults:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour 60905 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting 60968 | Vaults:2 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 170/170 MP: 37/37 61131 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt. 61822 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging 64255 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 64675 | Vaults:3 | Noticed Jory 64712 | Vaults:3 | Killed Jory 66701 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 178/178 MP: 36/38 67128 | Vaults:1 | Bought a book of Enchantments for 550 gold pieces 67706 | Elf:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls 68022 | Elf:1 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure. 68406 | Elf:1 | Got a fine great sword 68407 | Elf:1 | Identified the cursed +0 great sword "Ogreslayer" {freeze, Int+4} (You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls) 68527 | Elf:1 | Identified the Volume of Cankerous Attacks 69033 | Elf:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 69047 | Elf:2 | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste 69132 | Elf:1 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 69671 | Elf:2 | Found a runed gate. 69671 | Elf:2 | Found a runed gate. 69677 | Elf:2 | Found a runed gate. 69922 | Elf:3 | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls 69936 | Elf:3 | Found a magical portal. 69961 | WizLab | Entered Doroklohe's Tomb 70640 | Elf:3 | Found Qiegoel's General Store. 72641 | Elf:3 | Got a twitching bone amulet 73064 | Elf:3 | Identified the amulet "Alal" {Ward rF+ rN+} (You took it off a deep elf mage on level 3 of the Elven Halls) 73283 | Elf:3 | Identified the Volume of Damaging Stolen Souls (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls) 73285 | Elf:3 | Identified the Handbook of Quantum Flames (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls) 73369 | Elf:3 | Identified Inick's Almanac of Transformation (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls) 74136 | Swamp:3 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 184/184 MP: 20/40 74594 | Swamp:4 | Noticed vogonpoet's illusion 74594 | Swamp:4 | Killed Mara 74594 | Swamp:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Shields 74805 | Swamp:4 | Noticed Roxanne 74912 | Swamp:4 | Noticed a tentacled monstrosity 74918 | Swamp:4 | Killed a tentacled monstrosity 75902 | Swamp:4 | Got a decaying rune of Zot 77195 | Depths:1 | Found a gateway to Hell. 77770 | Depths:1 | Noticed the Enchantress 77804 | Depths:1 | Killed the Enchantress 77936 | Depths:1 | Upgraded the game from 0.17-a0-1596-g1e86911 to 0.17-a0-1617-gfba1302 78900 | Depths:2 | Paralysed by a great orb of eyes for 6 turns 78912 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 16 in Conjurations 80505 | Depths:2 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 192/192 MP: 40/41 81044 | Depths:2 | Noticed Asterion 81555 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Ice Magic 81966 | Depths:2 | Killed Asterion 82018 | Depths:2 | Noticed a caustic shrike 82544 | Depths:2 | Killed a caustic shrike 82544 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 17 in Conjurations 83065 | Depths:2 | Got a pair of polished gloves 83079 | Depths:2 | Identified the +1 pair of gloves of Gusis {*Drain MR+ rCorr Int+4} (You found it on level 2 of the Depths) 83468 | Depths:3 | Noticed Margery 83798 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 18 in Conjurations 84330 | Depths:3 | Killed Margery 84576 | Depths:3 | Found a gateway to a ziggurat. 84857 | Depths:3 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium. 85196 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 19 in Conjurations 86167 | Depths:4 | Found a runed door. 86182 | Depths:4 | Reached XP level 23. HP: 199/199 MP: 25/42 87605 | Orc:4 | Bought a slimy quarterstaff for 207 gold pieces 87679 | Orc:2 | Bought a scroll of recharging for 133 gold pieces 87679 | Orc:2 | Bought a scroll of silence for 105 gold pieces 87979 | Elf:3 | Identified the +5 quarterstaff "Teyzigaz" {drain, *Rage rF+ Dex+4} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) 88555 | Depths:4 | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss. 89086 | Depths:4 | Found an opulent altar of Gozag. 89415 | Depths:4 | Found a runed door. 89430 | Depths:4 | Found a runed door. 89446 | Depths:4 | Found a runed door. 89538 | Depths:4 | Got a twisted battleaxe 89572 | Depths:4 | Got a fine war axe 89599 | Depths:3 | Identified the +1 war axe of the Empty Page {pain, MR+} (You found it on level 4 of the Depths) 89657 | Depths:2 | Identified the +7 battleaxe of Distant Worlds {chop, rElec rPois} (You found it on level 4 of the Depths) 89661 | Depths:2 | Identified a +5 rod of destruction (12/12) (You found it on level 4 of the Depths) 90073 | Depths:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Depths 90574 | Depths:5 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 90575 | Depths:5 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 90576 | Depths:5 | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos. 90602 | Depths:5 | Noticed Sojobo 91521 | Depths:5 | Killed Sojobo 91751 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 20 in Conjurations 92048 | Depths:5 | Found a gate to the Realm of Zot. 92892 | Depths:5 | Reached XP level 24. HP: 118/206 MP: 31/42 93633 | Depths:5 | Upgraded the game from 0.17-a0-1617-gfba1302 to 0.17-a0-1625-g47e540b 94393 | Depths:5 | Upgraded the game from 0.17-a0-1625-g47e540b to 0.17-a0-1633-g92a3a4e 94733 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 21 in Conjurations 95088 | Depths:5 | Noticed an ancient lich 95723 | Depths:1 | Learned a level 9 spell: Glaciate 95877 | Crypt:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Crypt 97711 | Crypt:1 | Identified Qasudd's Compendium of Enhancements and Moulding 98674 | Crypt:2 | Reached XP level 25. HP: 204/213 MP: 4/44 99402 | Crypt:2 | Found a runed gate. 99403 | Crypt:2 | Found a runed gate. 99479 | Crypt:2 | Found a runed gate. 99757 | Crypt:3 | Entered Level 3 of the Crypt 99965 | Crypt:3 | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles 100718 | Crypt:3 | Found a staircase to the Tomb. 102422 | Crypt:3 | Noticed an ancient lich 102429 | Crypt:3 | Killed an ancient lich 102597 | Crypt:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 103260 | Depths:5 | Killed an ancient lich 104199 | D:15 | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation 104660 | Vaults:4 | Found Wori's Gadget Boutique. 104671 | Vaults:4 | Bought a wand of teleportation (5) for 540 gold pieces 105044 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 26. HP: 228/228 MP: 15/45 105164 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy 106258 | Vaults:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Vaults 106567 | Vaults:5 | Noticed Jorgrun 106574 | Vaults:5 | Killed Jorgrun 106830 | Vaults:5 | Got an ancient tin ring 107400 | Vaults:5 | Identified the ring "Hef Wufu" {rPois MR+ Int+8} (You took it off a vault warden on level 5 of the Vaults) 107454 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations 107554 | Vaults:5 | Reached XP level 27. HP: 236/238 MP: 33/46 107588 | Vaults:5 | Got a silver rune of Zot 108199 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations 109038 | Zot:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Realm of Zot 109145 | Zot:1 | Noticed an orb of fire 109152 | Zot:1 | Killed an orb of fire 110275 | Zot:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Translocations 112140 | Lair:2 | Learned a level 7 spell: Controlled Blink 112357 | Orc:2 | Bought a scroll of amnesia for 49 gold pieces 112357 | Orc:2 | Bought a scroll of amnesia for 49 gold pieces 112357 | Orc:2 | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces 112357 | Orc:2 | Bought a scroll of identify for 28 gold pieces 112836 | Snake:4 | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 66 gold pieces 112836 | Snake:4 | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 66 gold pieces 112836 | Snake:4 | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 66 gold pieces 112836 | Snake:4 | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 66 gold pieces 112836 | Snake:4 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 142 gold pieces 112836 | Snake:4 | Bought a scroll of identify for 38 gold pieces 112836 | Snake:4 | Bought a scroll of identify for 38 gold pieces 112919 | Snake:4 | Bought a potion of beneficial mutation for 525 gold pieces 112919 | Snake:4 | Bought a potion of cure mutation for 525 gold pieces 112919 | Snake:4 | Bought a potion of haste for 150 gold pieces 112925 | Snake:4 | Gained mutation: Your large and strong wings let you fly indefinitely. [potion of beneficial mutation] 113375 | Elf:1 | You paid a toll of 24 scrolls of identify to enter a treasure trove 113376 | Trove | Entered a treasure trove 115000 | Zot:3 | Reached skill level 22 in Ice Magic 116389 | Zot:4 | Noticed an orb of fire 116404 | Zot:4 | Reached skill level 23 in Ice Magic 116408 | Zot:4 | Killed an orb of fire 116525 | Zot:4 | Noticed Tiamat 116540 | Zot:4 | Killed Tiamat 116688 | Zot:4 | Reached skill level 24 in Ice Magic 117266 | Zot:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Realm of Zot 117490 | Zot:5 | Reached skill level 25 in Ice Magic 117698 | Zot:5 | Noticed an orb of fire 117704 | Zot:5 | Killed an orb of fire 118149 | Zot:5 | Noticed an ancient lich 118154 | Zot:5 | Killed an ancient lich 118304 | Zot:5 | Noticed an orb of fire 118311 | Zot:5 | Killed an orb of fire 118537 | Zot:5 | Noticed an orb of fire 118544 | Zot:5 | Killed an orb of fire 118896 | Zot:5 | Noticed an orb of fire 118902 | Zot:5 | Killed an orb of fire 119078 | Zot:5 | Noticed an orb of fire 119082 | Zot:5 | Killed an orb of fire 119356 | Zot:5 | Noticed an orb of fire 119356 | Zot:5 | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). [an orb of fire] 119363 | Zot:5 | Noticed an orb of fire 119628 | Zot:5 | Killed an orb of fire 119759 | Zot:5 | Killed an orb of fire 120908 | Zot:5 | Got the Orb of Zot 120952 | Zot:5 | Noticed Garpheruc the pandemonium lord 120956 | Zot:5 | Killed Garpheruc the pandemonium lord 121411 | D:10 | Noticed Caesenk the pandemonium lord 121442 | D:10 | Killed Caesenk the pandemonium lord 121674 | D:5 | Noticed Fyskun the pandemonium lord 121898 | D:$ | Escaped with the Orb! Vault maps used: D:1: saegor_arrival_simple_d D:2: minmay_joined_circles D:4: first_bread D:5: kennysheep_big_flooded_room, old_standard_altar, ashenzari_altar_1, minmay_temple_entry_fiery, uniq_crazy_yiuf_cottage, uniq_pikel, uniq_grinder, uniq_edmund D:6: trog_hazing_becter D:7: gammafunk_temple_overflow_statue, grunt_dithmenos_shadows, nicolae_overflow_quartered_altars, gammafunk_temple_overflow_elements, enter_bailey_3 D:9: serial_undead, serial_undead_c, serial_undead_f, serial_undead_d, serial_undead_c, xom_shifter_show D:10: kennysheep_kobold_lugonu_temple, uniq_nergalle D:12: minmay_orc_entry_temple_small, basic_altar, hangedman_fish_farm, minivault_25, lemuel_blue_sif_altar D:13: minmay_curly_fans D:14: grunt_vaults_entry_tiered, serial_park_avenue1, serial_park_tiny_1, moated_statue, corexii_checkpoint_a D:15: gammafunk_enter_depths_forms, hangedman_decor_opposing Temple: circular_temple_pool_8 Lair:1: lab_entry_generic Lair:2: forest_paths, beast_lair_carwin_8 Lair:3: grunt_megastairs_2, infiniplex_staircase_pool Lair:4: roderic_lost_polar_bear, infiniplex_staircase_pool_2, grunt_megastairs_4 Lair:5: swamp_mist_pool, minmay_snake_entry_guardpost_large Lair:6: dpeg_slime_entry_corner, serial_bayou_shore_b Lair:7: gammafunk_lair_bear_cave Lair:8: guppyfry_lair_end_dragon, hangedman_lair_tendril_chambers, nicolae_lair_grove_arrangements, minivault_23, bobbens_dragon_lair_wall, lemuel_fruit_fields, lemuel_fruit_tree Swamp:1: evilmike_swamp_ruin_house_3 Swamp:2: evilmike_swamp_ruin_wall Swamp:3: basic_altar, swamp_pool2, hangedman_swamp_lotus Swamp:4: swamp_vile, uniq_mara, uniq_roxanne Snake:1: uniq_donald Snake:2: serial_bayou_shore_b Snake:3: spider_trap, uniq_nikola, uniq_norris, uniq_vashnia, uniq_wiglaf, uniq_aizul Snake:4: grunt_snake_rune_spirals, serial_shops, shop, nicolae_shop_trees, shop, lemuel_oklob_altar Orc:1: uniq_harold Orc:2: serial_shops, shop, shop, shop, shop, nicolae_orc_lava_tube Orc:3: nicolae_orc_pool_cavern, uniq_maurice, uniq_rupert Orc:4: grunt_orc_tribal_feast, uniq_snorg Elf:1: lemuel_upstairs_altar, nicolae_trove_entry_crossroad, minmay_elf_annihilation, minmay_misc_feat_five, evilmike_minifort Elf:3: minmay_elf_hall_hex, mu_enter_wizlab_5, serial_shops, shop_statue Vaults:1: v_alt_pattern_1, vaults_mumra_hex, v_rooms_5, vaults_mumra_minichess_inversion, vaults_standard_mumra_x, ontoclasm_vaults_fault, nicolae_vaults_little_squares_1, vaults_room_corners, nicolae_vaults_mini_display_case, grunt_vaults_diagonal, serial_shops, shop Vaults:2: nicolae_vaults_little_ls, v_rooms_1, ontoclasm_vaults_chip, minmay_crypt_entry_simple_sparse, vaults_room_stairs_pillars, v_alt_pattern_3, v_misc_14, hangedman_vaults_variations, ontoclasm_vaults_tryst, ontoclasm_vaults_fire_temple, vaults_room_large_hall, v_misc_19, v_rooms_3, vaults_room_fancy_cross Vaults:3: nicolae_vaults_little_squares_1, v_misc_10, vaults_room_ringed_pool, v_alt_pattern_1, st_lattice, nicolae_vaults_diagonal_hallway_8, hangedman_vaults_trim, hangedman_vaults_slither, ontoclasm_vaults_bender, ontoclasm_vaults_ligature, hangedman_vaults_pinch, uniq_jory Vaults:4: dpeg_vaults_monster_box, hangedman_vaults_corner, v_misc_12, v_pattern_4, hangedman_vaults_restitches, v_misc_11, ontoclasm_vaults_shuriken, serial_shops, shop_statue Vaults:5: serial_shops, uniq_jorgrun Crypt:1: small_chamber_with_monster Crypt:2: pandoras_box_mu, basic_stair_grate_trap Crypt:3: cryptofortress_bobbens Depths:1: hangedman_cross_stitches, hell_entry, minmay_misc_feat_cross, kennysheep_generic_room_7, serial_bayou_shore_b, serial_bayou_shore_b, uniq_enchantress Depths:2: minmay_broken_ring, marbit_kobold_abyss_entry, minmay_staircase_bubble, hell_entry, basic_stair_grate_trap, uniq_asterion Depths:3: dpeg_oklob_shooting_range, enter_ziggurat_c, grunt_pan_entry_zigzag, hell_entry, lemuel_old_faithful, uniq_margery Depths:4: impenetrable_vault, hell_entry, pan_entry, basic_altar, abyss_entry Depths:5: hangedman_slaughterboxes, hell_entry, abyss_entry, uniq_sojobo Zot:3: grunt_deathspiral_small Zot:4: nrook_zot_tub, uniq_tiamat Zot:5: grunt_ministairs_14 Lab: labyrinth_watery Trove: trove_wands_scrolls Bailey: bailey_axe_3, bailey WizLab: wizlab_doroklohe Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 29 | 20 | | | | | | | || 49 Hunting sling | | 2 | | | | | | | || 2 Trident | | | 300 | 34 | | | | | || 334 Flail | | | 10 | 57 | 70 | 85 | 45 | | || 267 Spear | | | 3 | | | | | | || 3 Rapier | | | | 278 | 383 | | | | || 661 Blowgun | | | | | 3 | | | | || 3 Dagger | | | | | | | 20 | | || 20 Staff | | | | | | | 9 | 54 | 53 || 116 Demon whip | | | | | | | 8 | 32 | || 40 Fire: Hunting sling | | 87 | 177 | | | | | | || 264 Blowgun | | | 33 | 115 | 15 | | | 5 | 1 || 169 Throw: Javelin | | | 6 | 5 | 3 | | | | || 14 Throwing net | | | | | | | | 1 | || 1 Cast: Flame Tongue | 70 | 59 | 63 | 5 | 1 | 1 | | | || 199 Conjure Flame | | 2 | 1 | 8 | | | | | || 11 Sticky Flame | | 1 | 55 | 113 | 114 | 35 | 47 | 78 | 46 || 489 Throw Flame | | | 61 | 60 | 15 | 15 | | | || 151 Magic Dart | | | | 6 | 4 | 107 | 23 | 5 | || 145 Stone Arrow | | | | 45 | 9 | 2 | 106 | 219 | 325 || 706 Fireball | | | | 36 | 104 | 59 | 99 | 322 | 107 || 727 Passwall | | | | 9 | 5 | | | | || 14 Throw Icicle | | | | 48 | 323 | 605 | 199 | 62 | 36 || 1273 Bolt of Cold | | | | | 119 | 109 | 277 | 355 | 504 || 1364 Freezing Cloud | | | | | 91 | 173 | 250 | 137 | 55 || 706 Sublimation of Bl | | | | | | 24 | 6 | 1 | 159 || 190 Iskenderun's Batt | | | | | | 90 | 76 | 110 | 174 || 450 Regeneration | | | | | | 11 | 30 | 78 | 156 || 275 Ozocubu's Armour | | | | | | 4 | 35 | 88 | 72 || 199 Haste | | | | | | | 1 | 13 | 11 || 25 Glaciate | | | | | | | | 13 | 268 || 281 Repel Missiles | | | | | | | | | 6 || 6 Apportation | | | | | | | | | 8 || 8 Abil: Evoke Blink | | | | | | 1 | | 4 | 2 || 7 Evoke Invisibilit | | | | | | | | 2 | 1 || 3 Turn Visible | | | | | | | | 1 | || 1 Evoke: Wand | | | 8 | | | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 || 12 Rod | | | | | | 5 | 10 | 3 | 6 || 24 Staff of energy | | | | | | | 60 | 440 | 569 || 1069 Stone of tremors | | | | | | | 1 | 1 | || 2 Use: Scroll | | 6 | 3 | 19 | 13 | 6 | 12 | 2 | 16 || 77 Potion | | 1 | 3 | 1 | 2 | | 7 | 1 | 2 || 17 Stab: Invisible | | | 2 | | | | | | || 2 Sleeping | | | 4 | 20 | 14 | | 1 | 1 | || 40 Distracted | | | 2 | 2 | | | 1 | | || 5 Eat: Chunk | 3 | 8 | 35 | 46 | 133 | 100 | 162 | 105 | 103 || 695 Beef jerky | | | 1 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | || 10 Pizza | | | 1 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 1 | | 2 || 12 Meat ration | | | | 1 | 4 | 13 | 1 | 2 | 4 || 25 Royal jelly | | | | 1 | | | | | || 1 Fruit | | | | | 3 | | 1 | | 1 || 5 Bread ration | | | | | | | | | 6 || 6

Anyway, NaTm??? Apparently I have played 15 NaTm, and once made it to level 5. Not very promising - Tm is my worst background - 350 games played, best level 18. Ha ha, I suck. Back when I was a noob, I killed 129 SETm, and never got better than level 11. Naga OTOH, 54 played, best level 12.

So at least I have room to improve... NaTm does not sound very diesel though... I go Okie/Mak/Fedhas?

Monday, 3rd August 2015, 18:42 by Sar

Fedhas is the best option, but as usual it depends on when you find altars. I wouldn't slither away from D:2 Oka even if Oka isn't quite as good as Fedhas. Also, I'd consider Yred and maybe Kiku.

Monday, 3rd August 2015, 19:35 by Magipi

NaTm? I don't know what diesel means anymore.

Monday, 3rd August 2015, 20:24 by ajon

What does it mean

Monday, 3rd August 2015, 21:28 by tasonir

I think there's an "official" definition which is based off your defenses: https://lookupdb.guy.ht/#term/diesel (TLDR: have 46+ ac, 31+ ev)

It basically just means having a powerful character, though. Note this definition has nothing to do with "good for early game" or "streaking" etc etc.

NaTm would be pretty easy to turn diesel - AC is very high on nagas, and then you'd just need to look for something to boost your EV. Chei, phase shift, a good ring of evasion, etc.

Just because I can, examples!
http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.10/Ta ... 202132.txt
http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/tasonir/mor ... 040128.txt
http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/tasonir/mor ... 213819.txt (switched to mak for megazigs, so my final defenses were 72 ac 25 EV, but screw you I'm counting it)

A more typical end result for NaTm would be ac in the diesel range (46) but lower ev (~20) due to the large size. Take chei if you want to break 31 ev.

Monday, 3rd August 2015, 22:38 by Sprucery

I always thought diesel meant having the sum ac+ev(+sh?) over some threshold. I don't know why.

Tuesday, 4th August 2015, 07:20 by thevogonpoet

Ok, 3 dead NaTm, two of Fedhas, one of Okie, top level 5. Damn I hate Nagas. I am sure in the hands of Chei and a non-awful player, Nagas can become diesel, but not for me today. Back to CeGl of Fed.

Tuesday, 4th August 2015, 08:06 by Sar

Did your Fedhasites survive long enough to get the first ability? Herding mushrooms might not be the most fun thing due to their movement rules, but it really helps. Basically I would just make a mushroom as soon as I have * piety and try keep 2-3 with me until Lair - first 2, later more, in Lair I make much more, 7-8. Don't really care about conserving piety, just make shrooms. Get some Invo around XL8 or so.

Tuesday, 4th August 2015, 09:24 by thevogonpoet

Ok, my Fedhas followers will try to make more shrooms. As for the Nagas, I really feel like giving up on Nagas. Everything I learnt about positioning and luring seems wrong with them - meet an orc, try to get out of LOS, ha ha, meet his friends, die. See an orc priest, and what? Spit, miss and die.

Current CeGl got a D2 Okie, so no shrooms for this brief run:

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1633-g92a3a4e (console) character file. vogonpoet the Poker (Centaur Gladiator) Turns: 4286, Time: 00:10:21 Health: 48/48 AC: 5 Str: 18 XL: 6 Next: 19% Magic: 15/15 EV: 9 Int: 8 God: Okawaru [......] Gold: 164 SH: 0 Dex: 10 Spells: 0 memorised, 5 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis . p - +1 spear (venom) rCold . . . Clarity . b - +0 leather armour rNeg . . . SustAt . (no shield) rPois . Gourm . q - +0 helmet rElec . Spirit . (no cloak) rCorr . Warding . (no gloves) rMut . Stasis . (no barding) MR ..... (no amulet) Stlth .......... (no ring) e - ring of magical pow

Tuesday, 4th August 2015, 09:41 by Sar

Nagas are really tough in the earlygame, one of the worst races. If you want to win one, I'd recommend IE. Kinda obvious, I know. CJ is great as well.

Tuesday, 4th August 2015, 09:59 by thevogonpoet

Yeah, I guess I will try those at some point. The whole point of this thread was to address the most glaring 'easy' species in my list of winners. So DD is down, and I have at least improved my best Ce record a tiny bit.

Races I am yet to win, which are still available to play on Trunk: Ce, DG, Fe, Fo, Gh, Ha, Ko, Mu, Na, Og and Tr. Of those, Ce, Dg, and Ha are meant to be pretty damned simple; Fe, Mu and Na are meant to be pretty hard; and I don't know where the others fall, especially the Og and Tr... feels like they should wreck everything, but instead get wrecked.

Why do my stabbers never find +9 freezing short blades of MR+++?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1633-g92a3a4e (console) character file. vogonpoet the Spear-Bearer (Centaur Gladiator) Turns: 10615, Time: 00:32:51 Health: 93/93 AC: 11 Str: 18 XL: 10 Next: 27% Magic: 22/22 EV: 10 Int: 8 God: Okawaru [*****.] Gold: 511 SH: 0 Dex: 12 Spells: 0 memorised, 9 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis . a - +1 spear (venom) rCold . . . Clarity . M - +2 leather armour {rF+} rNeg . . . SustAt . (no shield) rPois . Gourm . R - +2 hat rElec . Spirit . A - +1 cloak rCorr . Warding . Q - +0 pair of gloves of Orthodoxy {+Fly Regen+} (curse) rMut . Stasis . (no barding) MR ..... (no amulet) Stlth +......... (no ring) e - ring of magical power @: very quick, not resistant to hostile enchantments, very unstealthy A: hooves 3, deformed body, speed 2, tough skin 3 a: Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion, Evoke Flight You are on level 9 of the Dungeon. You worship Okawaru. Okawaru is extremely pleased with you. You are not hungry. You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 9 of its levels. You have collected 511 gold pieces. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +1 spear of venom (weapon) b - a +0 shortbow of freezing i - an uncursed hunting sling o - a whip of flaming p - a +1 trident r - a halberd I - an uncursed shortbow U - the +9 rapier "Wunnou" {freeze, MR+++ Str+2 Int-3 Dex+3} <<== OMG WTF??? (You took it off a centaur on level 7 of the Dungeon) It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures. It affects your strength (+2). It affects your intelligence (-3). It affects your dexterity (+3). It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. Missiles d - 3 throwing nets (quivered) g - 55 sling bullets h - 52 poisoned needles C - 80 arrows J - 3 needles of sleeping O - 20 poisoned arrows S - 17 arrows of flame Armour u - a +0 chain mail A - a +1 cloak (worn) M - a +2 leather armour of fire resistance (worn) N - a +0 leather armour Q - the cursed +0 pair of gloves of Orthodoxy (worn) {+Fly Regen+} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon) It lets you fly. It increases your rate of regeneration. It has a curse placed upon it. R - a +2 hat (worn) Magical staves Z - an uncursed staff of energy Jewellery e - a ring of magical power (left hand) Magical devices n - a wand of digging {zapped: 2} q - a wand of confusion y - a wand of lightning {empty} G - a wand of heal wounds (2) Scrolls j - 6 scrolls of remove curse k - 4 scrolls of identify m - 3 scrolls of teleportation t - 2 scrolls of blinking z - 2 scrolls of magic mapping H - a scroll of enchant armour L - a scroll of amnesia V - a scroll labeled JEOS EZALY X - a scroll labeled ZOUCUU PETTE Y - a scroll labeled UHOSUS SUEB Potions f - a potion of cancellation s - a fuming clear potion w - a potion of might x - 2 potions of curing B - 2 potions of resistance D - a potion of brilliance E - a potion of haste F - 2 glowing puce potions K - a lumpy red potion T - 2 fizzy green potions Comestibles c - 9 royal jellies l - 5 bread rations v - 2 meat rations P - 9 fruits W - a slice of pizza Skills: - Level 10.0 Fighting - Level 10.1 Polearms - Level 2.6 Throwing - Level 2.1 Dodging + Level 5.0 Invocations

Tuesday, 4th August 2015, 10:07 by Sar

Felids are more of an endurance test: how long can you stand running away? I don't think they are bad/weak. Og can be tricky in the early game. I'd recommend OgBe, not just because it's strong, but also because Trog will shower you in ridiculous randart GSCs. Trolls... use a shield if you hadn't.

Tuesday, 4th August 2015, 10:20 by thevogonpoet

Gaaaa. Why don't I just kill off my centaur to nothing more than complete inattention. Was beginning to look almost promising too. Great. Ok, time for a rest, then a few OgBe.

/I am just not really cut out for roguelikes.

Edit:

Ok, my ogre just found a GDA lying an the floor in Lair. Do I switch immediately, then pump armour, or pump armour, and switch soon? Right now, my AC/EV goes from 8/19 in my awesome robe of resistance, to 16/9, and of course, I have the resistances covered right now... Hmm. My artifact morningstar also came off the floor. Come on Trog, don't let the floor god put you to shame.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1633-g92a3a4e (console) character file. vogonpoet the Bludgeoner (Ogre Berserker) Turns: 18832, Time: 00:57:32 Health: 122/153 AC: 8 Str: 30 XL: 14 Next: 8% Magic: 17/17 EV: 19 Int: 1 God: Trog [*****.] Gold: 1136 SH: 0 Dex: 16 Spells: 0 memorised, 13 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis . a - +9 morningstar {venom, rPois Str+5 Int-5 Stlth+} rCold + . . Clarity + V - +2 robe {rC+ rF+} rNeg . . . SustAt . (no shield) rPois + Gourm . v - +0 hat {Spirit} rElec . Spirit + i - +0 cloak rCorr . Warding . (gloves unavailable) rMut . Stasis . (boots unavailable) MR +.... (no amulet) Stlth +++....... c - ring of invisibility x - +3 ring of dexterity @: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy A: unfitting armour, slimy green scales 1, clarity, mutation resistance 1, tough skin 1 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion, Evoke Invisibility You are on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Trog. Trog is extremely pleased with you. You are not hungry. You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 17 of its levels. You have also visited: Labyrinth. You have collected 1166 gold pieces. You have spent 30 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - the +9 morningstar "Tattletale" (weapon) {venom, rPois Str+5 Int-5 Stlth+} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon) It poisons the flesh of those it strikes. It affects your strength (+5). It affects your intelligence (-5). It protects you from poison. It makes you more stealthy. b - a +4 blowgun e - a +5 antimagic great mace u - a runed dire flail {god gift} F - a +1 giant club Missiles l - 37 poisoned needles m - 4 throwing nets z - 4 large rocks X - 6 poisoned tomahawks (quivered) Armour i - a +0 cloak (worn) v - a +0 hat of spirit shield (worn) D - a +0 robe of magic resistance E - a +0 gold dragon armour V - a +2 robe of resistance (worn) Jewellery c - a ring of invisibility (right hand) f - an uncursed amulet of stasis q - an uncursed ring of poison resistance x - a +3 ring of dexterity (left hand) K - an uncursed ring of sustain attributes P - an uncursed ring of see invisible Magical devices d - a wand of lightning (7) p - a wand of cold r - a wand of paralysis t - a wand of cold w - a wand of enslavement y - a wand of digging H - a wand of teleportation (5) Q - a wand of cold Y - a wand of disintegration Scrolls g - 3 scrolls of identify h - 6 scrolls of remove curse n - 5 scrolls of fog A - a scroll labeled RUDAGE HUYRHUTS O - a scroll of fear U - 5 scrolls of teleportation Potions j - 2 potions of cancellation k - a potion of haste o - 6 potions of curing B - 6 potions of heal wounds J - a potion of flight L - a potion of invisibility S - a potion of might W - 2 potions of resistance Miscellaneous R - a lantern of shadows Comestibles s - 2 fruits C - a royal jelly I - 5 meat rations N - 5 slices of pizza Skills: + Level 13.0 Fighting - Level 18.1 Maces & Flails - Level 5.0 Throwing * Level 13.4 Dodging * Level 4.3 Evocations

Tuesday, 4th August 2015, 13:27 by Sar

I wouldn't train so much Dodging on an ogre at this point in the game. I would train more Fighting, much, much more Fighting. An XL14 Og should have something like over 200 HP. I would also be using a GC/GSC and enchanting it.

I would also postpone training Evo, personally.

Tuesday, 4th August 2015, 14:10 by njvack

A good reason not to train a bunch of dodging early on an ogre is maybe you find GDA in Lair and find that armour is a better bet.

I'd wear the GDA and train fighting and armour, and yeah, grab some GSC from the ground and hit things with that.

Identify that scroll!

Tuesday, 4th August 2015, 20:02 by tasonir

I might be tempted to use the robe until you train armor to like level 4 or 5, but not terribly long. The GDA is ultimately much better, and especially if you get a few enchant armor scrolls on it. Use that all game long and don't look back

Turn off dodging, 13 is high enough for a long time (it will still benefit you some, but much less in GDA). You can of course train more dodging once you have GSC's on min delay and armor/fighting are around 20.

As far as other remaining races go, I wouldn't say that Dg are terribly simple. They're simple in the sense that they have less choices, but that doesn't make them easy. Og or Tr are both simple and easier, although they have a notable dip of power in the midgame without dragon armor/gloves/boots yet. Dragon armor helps bring them back up a bit, although they will always be missing gloves/boots (statue form is good for this reason, and especially so on trolls who use unarmed).

Tuesday, 4th August 2015, 21:07 by thevogonpoet

My lack of Og experience is definitely showing through - I was hoping actual defenses other than HP would be possible. So, for the future: More fighting, then fighting, then some fighting. OK.

(I trained some Evo due to my invis ring, I love me some invis rings. Also, I spent all the Lair 8 XP on armour, and made the switch at level 5, was already better than the robe)

Thanks for all the 'enchant your armour and GSC' advice - so far I have found just one enchant weapon scroll since I identified them, which I duly spent on my antimagic GSC, and a grand total of zero enchant armour scrolls - still not identified them at all, which I think at level 18 with one rune is a new personal record.

I really want Undeadhunter to be better than my randart holy GSS, but I suspect its not, which is a shame. So many nice wepaons, such terrible defenses.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1633-g92a3a4e (console) character file. vogonpoet the Bludgeoner (Ogre Berserker) Turns: 38880, Time: 02:30:39 Health: 196/196 AC: 24 Str: 34 (35) XL: 18 Next: 3% Magic: 8/21 EV: 12 Int: 1 God: Trog [******] Gold: 2553 SH: 0 Dex: 17 Spells: 0 memorised, 17 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis + a - +9 morningstar {venom, rPois Str+5 Int-5 Stlth+} rCold + . . Clarity + E - +0 gold dragon armour rNeg . . . SustAt . (no shield) rPois + Gourm . v - +0 hat {Spirit} rElec . Spirit + C - +0 cloak {MR+} rCorr . Warding . (gloves unavailable) rMut . Stasis . (boots unavailable) MR ++... u - amulet "Vuleash" {Faith Str+3 Dex+2} Stlth .......... P - ring of see invisible c - ring of invisibility @: very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: unfitting armour, slimy green scales 1, clarity, mutation resistance 1, tough skin 1 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion, Evoke Invisibility }: 1/15 runes: gossamer You are on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Trog. Trog is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and seen 32 of its levels. You have also visited: Labyrinth. You have collected 3427 gold pieces. You have spent 874 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - the +9 morningstar "Tattletale" (weapon) {venom, rPois Str+5 Int-5 Stlth+} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon) It poisons the flesh of those it strikes. It affects your strength (+5). It affects your intelligence (-5). It protects you from poison. It makes you more stealthy. b - the +5 giant spiked club of Outrage {holy, rC+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 15 of the Dungeon) It has been blessed by the Shining One to cause great damage to the undead and demons. It protects you from cold. d - the +7 giant club of the World {crush, MR+ Dex+2} (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Spider Nest) It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies. It affects your dexterity (+2). It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. e - the +9 blowgun of Context {evade, rC+ MR++} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) It affects your evasion (+5 to EV). It protects you from cold. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. p - a +4 antimagic giant spiked club T - the +7 great mace "Undeadhunter" {disrupt, rN+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) It protects you from negative energy. Missiles m - 4 throwing nets q - 5 curare-tipped needles t - 5 javelins of returning z - 23 large rocks (quivered) A - 5 poisoned tomahawks N - 17 poisoned needles Armour v - a +0 hat of spirit shield (worn) C - a +0 cloak of magic resistance (worn) E - a +0 gold dragon armour (worn) Jewellery c - a ring of invisibility (left hand) u - the amulet "Vuleash" (around neck) {Faith Str+3 Dex+2} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) [amulet of faith] It allows you to gain divine favour quickly. It affects your strength (+3). It affects your dexterity (+2). D - an uncursed ring of flight P - a ring of see invisible (right hand) Magical devices f - a wand of fire w - a wand of magic darts y - a wand of digging F - a wand of invisibility H - a wand of teleportation (5) J - a wand of heal wounds (7) Q - a wand of cold X - a wand of draining Y - a wand of disintegration Z - a wand of draining Scrolls g - 5 scrolls of identify h - 12 scrolls of remove curse n - 5 scrolls of fog K - 2 scrolls of magic mapping O - a scroll of fear U - 9 scrolls of teleportation V - 2 scrolls of blinking Potions j - 2 potions of cancellation k - a potion of haste l - 2 potions of agility o - 11 potions of curing r - a potion of magic s - a potion of brilliance B - 9 potions of heal wounds S - 2 potions of might W - 3 potions of resistance Miscellaneous i - a box of beasts x - a phial of floods G - a sack of spiders L - a phial of floods M - a lamp of fire R - a lantern of shadows Comestibles I - 12 meat rations Skills: - Level 16.0 Fighting - Level 20.0 Maces & Flails - Level 10.0 Throwing + Level 14.9 Armour - Level 13.4 Dodging - Level 4.7 Evocations You have 17 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (0/1) D:4 Lair (8/8) D:9 Shoals (0/4) Lair:6 Spider (4/4) Lair:5 Slime (0/6) Lair:7 Orc (4/4) D:9 Elf (0/3) Orc:3 Vaults (0/5) D:14 Depths (1/5) D:15 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Xom Yredelemnul Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:5 ( Orc:2 } Orc:3 ( Orc:4 **:::[!? Annotations: D:10 1 runed door Lair:4 exclusion: 2 oklob plants Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are too large for most types of armour. You have tough skin (AC +1). You are partially covered in slimy green scales (AC +2). You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. You are somewhat resistant to further mutation.

Lair 8 had a manual of throwing, which was pretty nice.

I think I will give a little bit of Vaults a shot now, before heading to Shoals, and try to train some Fighting (and more Evo for the invis ring :oops:

)

Tuesday, 4th August 2015, 21:13 by Sar

Undeadhunter supposedly does something silly like +250% average damage vs. undead (holy is +75%), so it's likely better. Use it in Tomb and Crypt!

Wednesday, 5th August 2015, 07:13 by thevogonpoet

Trog is not just gifting me javelins sometimes, but actual large rocks <3. So much love.

edit:

Code:: You climb downwards. A vampire mage, a phantasmal warrior, a curse skull and a skeleton come into view. The curse skull gives a chilling moan. Found a bread ration. There is a stone staircase leading up here. Unknown command. You thump the curse skull! The curse skull is moderately damaged. The curse skull rattles its jaw. You bludgeon the curse skull!! The curse skull is blasted by disruptive energy! You destroy the curse skull! The mummy disappears in a puff of smoke! The flayed ghost disappears in a puff of smoke! The vampire mage casts a spell.

Don't think I ever 2-shot a curse skull in melee before... and immediately upon entering Crypt, I OHK'd a vampire knight. Dealing huge damage 2/3 of the time. Fun.

Edit: holy crap, another OHK I wasn't expecting:

Code:: You pound the ghoul like an anvil!!! The ghoul is blasted by disruptive energy! You destroy the ghoul!

Ah ha ha ha ha. Just need to avoid hubris and Ancient Lichs, and everything will be fine.

Wednesday, 5th August 2015, 12:30 by thevogonpoet

Crap. Getting into those terrible 'Definitely a promising character' areas of the game where I really don't want to screw up. The first caustic shrike pack felt dangerous, but then Trog whispered in my ear, and the next one was like, pfft, summon some bros, yay. Still, had a bit of a typo-misstep during a boggart zerg rush entering Depths 4, was almost down to single digit HP

. Must be more careful.

Not dead yet though... I even have some javelins of penetration to potentially make stair dancing Vaults 5 less of a death trap. Still not exactly been overwhelmed with enchant anything scrolls - my +3 antimagic GSP has climbed to +7, and my GDA to +4, so that's four of each. Including two bazaars. Still got Elf to come though before V5, maybe I can eek out a few more points of AC there.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1636-g3119f2b (console) character file. vogonpoet the Slayer (Ogre Berserker) Turns: 73404, Time: 05:39:55 Health: 283/309 AC: 34 Str: 37 XL: 26 Next: 12% Magic: 29/29 EV: 16 Int: 6 God: Trog [******] Gold: 3517 SH: 0 Dex: 19 Spells: 0 memorised, 25 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis . f - +5 g.spiked club {flame, rElec Stlth+} rCold + . . Clarity + E - +4 gold dragon armour rNeg . . . SustAt . (no shield) rPois + Gourm . v - +0 hat {Spirit} rElec + Spirit + Q - +2 cloak rCorr . Warding . (gloves unavailable) rMut . Stasis . (boots unavailable) MR +++.. u - amulet "Vuleash" {Faith Str+3 Dex+2} Stlth .......... Z - +5 ring of strength L - ring of protection from magic @: extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: unfitting armour, slimy green scales 1, clarity, tough skin 1 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion }: 2/15 runes: barnacled, gossamer You are on level 5 of the Depths. You worship Trog. Trog is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 9 branches of the dungeon, and seen 47 of its levels. You have visited 2 bazaars. You have also visited: Labyrinth and Ice Cave. You have collected 6272 gold pieces. You have spent 2755 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +7 antimagic giant spiked club b - the +5 giant spiked club of Outrage {holy, rC+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 15 of the Dungeon) It has been blessed by the Shining One to cause great damage to the undead and demons. It protects you from cold. d - the +7 great mace "Undeadhunter" {disrupt, rN+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) It protects you from negative energy. e - the +9 blowgun of Context {evade, rC+ MR++} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) It affects your evasion (+5 to EV). It protects you from cold. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. f - the +5 giant spiked club of Deformation (weapon) {flame, rElec Stlth+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Shoals) It has been specially enchanted to burn those struck by it, causing extra injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly susceptible opponents. It insulates you from electricity. It makes you more stealthy. F - the +6 giant spiked club of Foul Odors {freeze, rPois Dex+6 Stlth-} (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Depths) It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures. It affects your dexterity (+6). It protects you from poison. It makes you less stealthy. Missiles m - 13 throwing nets q - 26 curare-tipped needles z - 99 large rocks (quivered) A - 25 javelins of penetration Armour v - a +0 hat of spirit shield (worn) C - a +0 cloak of magic resistance E - a +4 gold dragon armour (worn) Q - a +2 cloak (worn) Jewellery c - an uncursed ring of invisibility u - the amulet "Vuleash" (around neck) {Faith Str+3 Dex+2} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) [amulet of faith] It allows you to gain divine favour quickly. It affects your strength (+3). It affects your dexterity (+2). w - an uncursed ring of protection from fire D - an uncursed ring of flight L - a ring of protection from magic (left hand) P - an uncursed ring of see invisible T - an uncursed ring of teleportation Z - a +5 ring of strength (right hand) Magical devices p - a wand of teleportation (6) s - a wand of hasting (3) y - a wand of digging (6) H - a wand of teleportation (5) J - a wand of heal wounds (7) Y - a wand of disintegration (13) Scrolls h - 19 scrolls of remove curse j - a scroll of recharging n - 11 scrolls of fog t - 6 scrolls of identify K - 4 scrolls of magic mapping O - a scroll of fear U - 15 scrolls of teleportation V - 9 scrolls of blinking Potions g - 4 potions of agility k - 2 potions of haste o - 21 potions of curing r - 2 potions of cancellation B - 13 potions of heal wounds S - 4 potions of might W - 3 potions of resistance Miscellaneous i - a box of beasts l - a fan of gales x - a phial of floods G - a sack of spiders M - a lamp of fire N - a sack of spiders Comestibles I - 15 meat rations X - a slice of pizza Skills: - Level 26.0 Fighting - Level 24.0 Maces & Flails - Level 15.0 Throwing * Level 21.3 Armour * Level 16.3 Dodging * Level 8.3 Evocations You have 25 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (0/1) D:4 Lair (8/8) D:9 Shoals (4/4) Lair:6 Spider (4/4) Lair:5 Slime (0/6) Lair:7 Orc (4/4) D:9 Elf (0/3) Orc:3 Vaults (3/5) D:14 Crypt (3/3) Vaults:3 Tomb (1/3) Crypt:3 Depths (5/5) D:15 Zot: Depths:5 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Xom Yredelemnul Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:5 ( Orc:2 } Orc:3 ( Orc:4 **:::[!? Shoals:4 }} Vaults:2 ( Depths:3 ? Portals: Hell: Depths:1 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5 Abyss: Depths:1 Depths:4 Pandemonium: Depths:3 Depths:4 Ziggurat: Depths:5 Annotations: D:10 1 runed door Lair:4 exclusion: 2 oklob plants Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are too large for most types of armour. You have tough skin (AC +1). You are partially covered in slimy green scales (AC +2). You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. Message History You are feeling hungry. 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Wednesday, 5th August 2015, 17:32 by njvack

nice hat

Also very nice amulet.

I might train throwing instead of evo, but eh.

Don't forget your nets.

Wednesday, 5th August 2015, 17:33 by tasonir

Yeah trog gifts large rocks - I'm not sure it's possible to run out of large rocks on a OgBe

+4 GDA is much much better than +0, and hopefully you'll get a few more to keep moving upwards. There's usually one or two in v:5, or in elf:3. Especially if you plan on using javelins of penetration to make stair dancing V:5 safe, I'd train throwing a bit higher. 15 is great, but 20 is even better, and as a berserker you are already running out of things to train, so go for it

Nothing better than that +5 str ring?

Wednesday, 5th August 2015, 18:58 by thevogonpoet

njvack wrote:...I might train throwing instead of evo, but eh...
Don't forget your nets.

tasonir wrote:...I'd train throwing a bit higher...
Nothing better than that +5 str ring?

Good points - I am hurling rocks quite a bit, and damn they are good, so lets make them better. And yeah, I love nets. Nets are like, basically my favourite thing when confronted with ALichs, Mara, and also on other occasions... Always disconcerting how effective they are.

As for the ring... there is a Dex+3 ring upstairs which might actually be a tiny bit better, or at least, not much worse. Looking at where I have been already, not really been massively lucky with rings this time round, and Trog has bombarded me with what would be so many Sky weapons were it not for the fact they are also massively effective at killing things, that I don't feel the need to even carry junk like the only artifact ring generated so far: {Fire rElec rN+ Str-4 Stlth-}. Maybe I can pack it for Zot. In fact, my rings so far have been so meh that the choice between wearing my ring of magic protection and a vanilla +2 cloak instead of a +0 cloak of magic protection and a different ring felt like a no brainer... Presumably I can swap back if I find a +3 or better ring of protection (actually I would just swap the strength ring

)

Edit: 3 randard cloaks in a Wizlab, and I guess at least the rCorr one is not definitely unambiguously worse than the vanilla +2 one I so would love to upgrade... I was all like, oh, these cloaks are going to be awesome. But I really just wanted more AC. *sigh*. Just have to hope Tiamant appears for my second Zot in a row - not likely.

Code:: A - the +0 cloak "Wiusey" (worn) {rF+ rCorr Dex+4} (You found it in a wizard's laboratory) It affects your dexterity (+4). It protects you from fire. It protects you from acid and corrosion. C - a +0 cloak of magic resistance E - a +4 gold dragon armour (worn) R - the +1 cloak "Qaozuics" {rN++ Int-5} (You found it in a wizard's laboratory) It affects your intelligence (-5). It greatly protects you from negative energy. X - the -1 cloak of Aciorgh {rPois Str+6 Int+4 Dex+3} (You found it in a wizard's laboratory) It affects your strength (+6). It affects your intelligence (+4). It affects your dexterity (+3). It protects you from poison.

Not sure about the Aciourgmentation cloak. Guess at -3 relative AC its also junk :roll:

Thursday, 6th August 2015, 08:23 by thevogonpoet

So I have cleared Elf, Crypt and V5, and am still struggling to upgrade my rings. A search for jewellery yields the following:

I will buy and switch to the rMut amulet for Zot probably.

None of those artifact rings look better than +5 strength or vanilla MR. I don't know, maybe I will swap the MR ring for 'W' {SustAt rElec rF+ Str-5 Int+3} in Zot against OOF and EGolemns, whilst wielding my antimagic GSC. That would be equivalent to wearing an {SustAt rF+} ring and an {rElec+ ring}. Actually, it would be better to wear a 'u' a vanilla rF+ ring, the strength ring, and wield my rElec GSC for golems if need be.

So my zot rings will be a combination of vanilla MR, vanilla +5 str, vanilla rF+, and vanilla +Inv (for those pesky draconians). This strikes me as pretty mediocre, am I missing some awesome combo in the pic above?

My Giant Sky Club collection looks like this (can probably safely drop O):

Code:: a - a +9 antimagic giant spiked club (weapon) b - the +5 giant spiked club of Outrage {holy, rC+} e - the +7 great mace "Undeadhunter" {disrupt, rN+} f - the +5 giant spiked club of Deformation {flame, rElec Stlth+} i - the +8 giant club of Serendipity {freeze, rPois rC+ MR+} I - the +6 giant club of Qanefe Ucae {venom, rPois rF+ rN+ SInv} O - the +4 giant spiked club "Vyomiafo" {freeze, rC++ Str+2}

Thursday, 6th August 2015, 12:49 by thevogonpoet

Holy crap - more unexpected OHKs:

Code:: An Orb Guardian comes into view. Throwing (i - inventory. (,) - cycle): z - 120 large rocks (quivered) Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f - Orb Guardian Aim: an Orb Guardian (hasn't noticed you) You throw a large rock. The large rock hits the Orb Guardian!!!! You kill the Orb Guardian! Trog accepts your kill.

Yes, an ogre victory! Definitely a very different experience, the whole glass cannon thing. Zot was pretty easy I guess - I didn't really do a very careful job, and never felt particularly threatened. I also killed an OOF with rocks at range, instead of rushing in with my antimagic club, just because I could. And of course, I went from 24 to 27 levels of maces skill before getting fighting to level 27, due to being a lame-ass title obsessed noob. I just couldn't help myself. All those slayers and conquerors get me down.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1636-g3119f2b (console) character file. 1583008 vogonpoet the Skullcrusher (level 27, 323/323 HPs) Began as an Ogre Berserker on Aug 4, 2015. Was the Champion of Trog. Escaped with the Orb ... and 3 runes on Aug 6, 2015! The game lasted 08:44:34 (101154 turns). vogonpoet the Skullcrusher (Ogre Berserker) Turns: 101154, Time: 08:44:34 Health: 323/323 AC: 40 Str: 28 XL: 27 Magic: 29/29 EV: 17 Int: 6 God: Trog [******] Gold: 4433 SH: 0 Dex: 22 Spells: 0 memorised, 26 levels left rFire + + . SeeInvis + b - +5 g.spiked club {holy, rC+} rCold + + . Clarity + E - +9 gold dragon armour rNeg . . . SustAt . (no shield) rPois + Gourm . v - +0 hat {Spirit} rElec . Spirit + A - +0 cloak "Wiusey" {rF+ rCorr Dex+4} rCorr + Warding . (gloves unavailable) rMut + Stasis . (boots unavailable) MR ++... j - amulet of resist mutation Stlth .......... d - ring of see invisible c - ring of invisibility @: very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: unfitting armour, slimy green scales 1, clarity, tough skin 1, weak 1 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion, Evoke Invisibility 0: Orb of Zot }: 3/15 runes: barnacled, silver, gossamer You escaped. You worshipped Trog. Trog was exalted by your worship. You were completely stuffed. You visited 12 branches of the dungeon, and saw 58 of its levels. You visited 2 bazaars. You also visited: Labyrinth, Ice Cave and Wizlab. You collected 11019 gold pieces. You spent 6586 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +9 antimagic giant spiked club b - the +5 giant spiked club of Outrage (weapon) {holy, rC+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 15 of the Dungeon) It has been blessed by the Shining One to cause great damage to the undead and demons. It protects you from cold. e - the +7 great mace "Undeadhunter" {disrupt, rN+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) It protects you from negative energy. f - the +5 giant spiked club of Deformation {flame, rElec Stlth+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Shoals) It has been specially enchanted to burn those struck by it, causing extra injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly susceptible opponents. It insulates you from electricity. It makes you more stealthy. l - the +9 blowgun of Context {evade, rC+ MR++} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines) It affects your evasion (+5 to EV). It protects you from cold. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. s - the +6 giant club of Qanefe Ucae {venom, rPois rF+ rN+ SInv} (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Elven Halls) It poisons the flesh of those it strikes. It protects you from fire. It protects you from poison. It protects you from negative energy. It lets you see invisible. C - the +8 giant club of Serendipity {freeze, rPois rC+ MR+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Vaults) It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures. It protects you from cold. It protects you from poison. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. O - the +4 giant spiked club "Vyomiafo" {freeze, rC++ Str+2} (Trog gifted it to you on level 5 of the Vaults) It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures. It affects your strength (+2). It greatly protects you from cold. Missiles m - 13 throwing nets z - 119 large rocks (quivered) K - 34 curare-tipped needles N - 25 javelins of penetration Armour v - a +0 hat of spirit shield (worn) A - the +0 cloak "Wiusey" (worn) {rF+ rCorr Dex+4} (You found it in a wizard's laboratory) It affects your dexterity (+4). It protects you from fire. It protects you from acid and corrosion. E - a +9 gold dragon armour (worn) Jewellery c - a ring of invisibility (left hand) d - a ring of see invisible (right hand) j - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck) r - an uncursed ring of protection from fire u - the amulet "Vuleash" {Faith Str+3 Dex+2} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) [amulet of faith] It allows you to gain divine favour quickly. It affects your strength (+3). It affects your dexterity (+2). D - an uncursed ring of flight L - an uncursed ring of protection from magic Q - the macabre finger necklace {Ward rN+} (You took it off a skeletal warrior on level 3 of the Crypt) [amulet of warding] It may prevent the melee attacks of summoned creatures. It protects you from negative energy. T - an uncursed ring of teleportation Z - a +5 ring of strength Magical devices i - a wand of teleportation (6) y - a wand of digging (6) H - a wand of teleportation (5) I - a wand of hasting (3) J - a wand of heal wounds (7) R - a wand of teleportation (6) Y - a wand of disintegration (11) Scrolls h - 26 scrolls of remove curse n - 12 scrolls of fog t - 5 scrolls of identify w - 4 scrolls of magic mapping F - 5 scrolls of recharging G - 6 scrolls of fear U - 18 scrolls of teleportation V - 10 scrolls of blinking Potions g - 4 potions of agility k - 4 potions of haste o - 21 potions of curing p - 4 potions of cure mutation q - a potion of magic B - 17 potions of heal wounds S - 9 potions of might W - 4 potions of resistance Miscellaneous x - a phial of floods M - a lamp of fire Comestibles P - 21 bread rations X - 14 meat rations Skills: O Level 27 Fighting O Level 27 Maces & Flails + Level 24.9 Throwing O Level 27 Armour - Level 17.8 Dodging - Level 8.4 Evocations You had 26 spell levels left. You didn't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (0/1) D:4 Lair (8/8) D:9 Shoals (4/4) Lair:6 Spider (4/4) Lair:5 Slime (0/6) Lair:7 Orc (4/4) D:9 Elf (3/3) Orc:3 Vaults (5/5) D:14 Crypt (3/3) Vaults:3 Tomb (1/3) Crypt:3 Depths (5/5) D:15 Hell (1/1) Zot (5/5) Depths:5 Dis: Hell:1 Geh: Hell:1 Coc: Hell:1 Tar: Hell:1 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna Trog Xom Yredelemnul Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:5 ( Orc:2 } Orc:3 ( Orc:4 **:::[!? Elf:1 * Elf:2 [}=}* Elf:3 ? Shoals:4 }} Vaults:2 ( Vaults:5 =!*:[%?! Depths:3 ? Portals: Hell: Depths:1 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5 Abyss: Depths:1 Depths:4 Pandemonium: Depths:3 Depths:4 Ziggurat: Depths:5 Annotations: D:10 1 runed door Lair:4 exclusion: 2 oklob plants Hell Geryon Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You are too large for most types of armour. You have tough skin (AC +1). You are partially covered in slimy green scales (AC +2). You possess an exceptional clarity of mind. You are weak. (Str -2) Message History (N) Spider Nest (M) Slime Pits (O) Orcish Mines (E) Elven Halls (V) Vaults (C) Crypt (W) Tomb (U) Depths (H) Hell (Z) Zot Where to? (Enter - D:1, ? - help) There is a stone staircase leading up here. You climb upwards. There is a stone staircase leading down here. HP restored. A blue devil comes into view. You sock the blue devil! The blue devil convulses! The blue devil is severely wounded. The blue devil barely misses you. You bludgeon the blue devil!! You kill the blue devil! Trog accepts your kill. There is an open door here. There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here. Wield which item (- for none, * to show all)? (? for menu, Esc to quit) Okay, then. You have escaped! ### #.......# # #.......# ######################.# .......................# ##...[####....##'##....# ##..#.# #....#..)#....# ##..#.# #..###.♣.###..# ....#.# #..#.......#..# ###.#.# #..#.♣.@.♣.#..# ....#.# #).#.......#..# #####.# #..###.♣.###.[# #.# #....#...#....# #.# #....##+##....# #.# #.............# #.# #...........(.# #.# ####.....#.#### #.#######....##.# There were no monsters in sight!

Pretty boring jewellery, but a lovely exciting Giant Sky Club collection, was definitely fun.

Tuesday, 11th August 2015, 16:59 by njvack

Nice! Congrats on the win

Tuesday, 25th August 2015, 09:34 by thevogonpoet

Ok, hi guys, back from a wee holiday, still trying to tick the 'easy' species off my unwon list: Ce, DG, Fe, Fo, Gh, Ha, Ko, Mu, Na and Tr. So before I get back to killing Ce of Fedhas, lets have an almost promising DGCj:

Pros:
1. Found two manuals of Ice magic in a cave, and then found Book of Frost on the floor a bit later.
2. Demon trident of electrocution from Shoals.
Cons:
1. Not found any > level 4 Ice spells yet.
2. Not found any higher level conjurations that are not Air.
3. Offense beginning to feel a bit lame.
4. Defense beginning to feel a bit lame.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1718-g72dbe4d (console) character file. vogonpoet the Warrior (Demigod Conjurer) Turns: 75309, Time: 08:31:18 Health: 173/173 AC: 25 Str: 11 XL: 19 Next: 37% Magic: 36/38 EV: 23 Int: 29 God: Gold: 2309 SH: 5 Dex: 18 Spells: 9 memorised, 9 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + a - +6 demon trident (elec) rCold + . . Clarity . L - +2 robe {MR+} rNeg . . . SustAt + x - +0 buckler rPois . Gourm . C - +2 helmet rElec . Spirit . E - +2 cloak {rC+} rCorr . Warding . j - +2 pair of gloves rMut . Stasis . V - +1 pair of boots MR +++.. f - amulet of regeneration Stlth ++........ y - ring of protection from magic Y - ring of see invisible @: icy armour, repel missiles, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy A: high mp 1, sustain attributes a: no special abilities }: 2/15 runes: barnacled, gossamer You are on level 2 of the Vaults. You are not hungry. You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 39 of its levels. You have also visited: Bailey and Ice Cave. You have collected 4093 gold pieces. You have spent 1784 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +6 demon trident of electrocution (weapon) P - a +3 blowgun Missiles n - 7 curare-tipped needles u - 19 throwing nets (quivered) Armour j - a +2 pair of gloves (worn) x - a +0 buckler (worn) C - a +2 helmet (worn) E - a +2 cloak of cold resistance (worn) H - a +2 robe of resistance J - a glowing ring mail L - a +2 robe of magic resistance (worn) R - a glowing robe V - a +1 pair of boots (worn) Magical staves b - an uncursed staff of energy r - an uncursed staff of cold Jewellery f - an amulet of regeneration (around neck) i - a blackened copper ring l - an uncursed ring of teleportation m - an uncursed ring of flight w - an uncursed ring of poison resistance y - a ring of protection from magic (right hand) O - a +5 ring of protection U - an uncursed ring of protection from fire W - an uncursed ring of magical power Y - a ring of see invisible (left hand) Magical devices k - a wand of heal wounds (6) F - a wand of fireball K - a wand of fire (6) N - a wand of magic darts Scrolls c - 2 scrolls of fear o - 13 scrolls of remove curse p - 6 scrolls of blinking q - 8 scrolls of fog v - a scroll of magic mapping G - 3 scrolls of teleportation M - 5 scrolls of identify Potions d - 7 potions of haste e - 2 potions of heal wounds g - 6 potions of curing t - 4 potions of magic Q - 3 potions of invisibility X - 5 potions of brilliance Z - 2 potions of cancellation Books z - a book of the Sky Spells Type Level a - Summon Lightning Spire Summoning/Air 4 b - Airstrike Air 4 c - Silence Hexes/Air 5 d - Deflect Missiles Charms/Air 6 e - Conjure Ball Lightning Conjuration/Air 6 f - Tornado Air 9 D - a book of the Tempests Spells Type Level a - Static Discharge Conjuration/Air 3 b - Lightning Bolt Conjuration/Air 5 c - Fireball Conjuration/Fire 5 d - Tornado Air 9 e - Shatter Earth 9 Miscellaneous h - a phantom mirror B - a box of beasts Comestibles s - 21 fruits A - 3 chunks of flesh I - 11 meat rations Skills: * Level 16.3 Fighting Level 7.8 Long Blades - Level 12.0 Polearms - Level 4.0 Armour - Level 14.0 Dodging - Level 1.7 Stealth - Level 3.0 Shields - Level 10.0 Spellcasting - Level 15.4 Conjurations - Level 6.7 Charms - Level 5.6 Translocations - Level 8.4 Ice Magic - Level 4.3 Air Magic - Level 5.1 Evocations You have 9 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Magic Dart Conj #### 0% 1 None b - Throw Icicle Conj/Ice ######.. 1% 4 None c - Iskenderun's Mystic Conj #######. 1% 4 None d - Dazzling Spray Conj/Hex ######.. 1% 3 None e - Iskenderun's Battles Conj/Chrm ######.. 1% 5 ###.... f - Phase Shift Tloc #####..... 12% 5 ###.... h - Searing Ray Conj ###### 0% 2 None r - Repel Missiles Chrm/Air #####. 1% 2 None z - Ozocubu's Armour Chrm/Ice ######.. 1% 3 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (0/1) D:5 Lair (8/8) D:8 Shoals (4/4) Lair:6 Spider (4/4) Lair:6 Slime (0/6) Lair:6 Orc (4/4) D:9 Elf (0/3) Orc:4 Vaults (3/5) D:14 Depths (1/5) D:15 Crypt: Vaults:2-3 Shops: D:5 [*?* D:9 ( Orc:4 [(*( Shoals:1 = Portals: Trove: D:14 (give horn of Geryon) Annotations: D:8 Erolcha D:12 Azrael Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You have an increased reservoir of magic (+10% MP). Your attributes are resistant to harm.

Which option to go for?
1. Bite bullet, train Air, learn Lightning bolt, then Airstrike, ignore 2nd manual of Ice for now. Hope to find FCloud.
2. Upgrade and train shields and armour, train polearms and fighting, forget about Ozzo's armour, become crap fighter.
3. Continue training fighting and dodging, hope to find better non-air conjurations soon.

Tuesday, 25th August 2015, 09:44 by Sar

Demon tridents mindelay at 14 Polearms. Also please wear the AC ring!

As to spells vs. melee - both can work, do whatever looks more fun to you.

Tuesday, 25th August 2015, 09:47 by rchandra

there's definitely a compromise position there - use ozo armour and melee things in a robe, with ice beast / fprism support. When you eventually find bolt of cold or refrigeration you can unleash death that way too.

Tuesday, 25th August 2015, 10:00 by thevogonpoet

Ha, thanks guys. I do wear the AC ring most of the time, honest, I just had to tab a pesky unseen horror a few monsters ago, and I hate not having MR+++ in Vaults.

I am not sure if I have ever cast fprism - is it significantly better than IMB for AOE damage? Ice beasts though, they sound like they would have been a great idea in Shoals and Spider, and still potentially useful even now. Good idea.

Edit:
So I found the awesome books of Enchantments and Battle, and I was like, yay, let's become a Skald. Then a little bit later, I found the Book of Power. So for the moment I shall be a spectral ozzo fighter, with ok conjurations support, with the view of eventually becoming a hasted spectral ozzo fighter, with fantastic conjurations support (I <3 OOD). Still feeling sad about my ice manuals though :roll:

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If I settle on OOD as my highest powered spell, should I start pumping Dex now for better EV?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1718-g72dbe4d (console) character file. vogonpoet the Warrior (Demigod Conjurer) Turns: 80349, Time: 09:07:35 Health: 133/174 AC: 21 Str: 11 XL: 19 Next: 94% Magic: 38/38 EV: 23 Int: 29 God: Gold: 2883 SH: 5 Dex: 18 Spells: 10 memorised, 2 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis . a - +6 demon trident (elec) rCold + . . Clarity . L - +2 robe {MR+} rNeg . . . SustAt + x - +0 buckler rPois . Gourm . C - +2 helmet rElec . Spirit . E - +2 cloak {rC+} rCorr . Warding . j - +2 pair of gloves rMut . Stasis . V - +1 pair of boots MR +++.. f - amulet of regeneration Stlth ++........ y - ring of protection from magic O - +5 ring of protection @: extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy A: high mp 1, sustain attributes a: no special abilities }: 2/15 runes: barnacled, gossamer

Wednesday, 26th August 2015, 08:02 by thevogonpoet

Dead. I really hate the entrance to Depths sometimes - its a pretty big leap up in danger, and the entrance vault on D15 often isn't a good shape for stair dancing.
But what I hate the most is starting a Crawl session with a promising character, entering Depths, then just forgetting how to play due to not having woken up properly.

This was easily my lamest > XL 20 death. I basically entered Depths, saw an entropy weaver, decided to draw it away from the stairs instead of just killing it right there and attracting more dudes to the stairs, then saw a fire giant, and just bloody ignored it, forgetting my easily correctable lack of rF+, continued to lure the weaver into unexplored, dangerous territory, eventually got corroded, finally realised I was maybe in trouble, walked, with no blink, with no haste, back to the stairs, adjacent to three monsters without considering the layout of D15 above, climbed the stairs, and then again decided not to blink away but instead try to blast my out past a fire giant with IMB, presumably hoping it would choose to kiss my instead of attack me, whilst I slowly chipped away at it. WTF.

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Why the hell do I learn Haste, or carry blink scolls and rF rings, if I am just randomly going to sleepily decide not to use them? Why do I ever try to play before lunch time?
Sometimes it feels ridiculous that I have any Crawl wins at all - Crawl is too forgiving.

edit: and now I have to start killing bloody centaurs again. aaargh.

edit: (I never know which is worst, to edit and be unread, or triple post and end up hated)

I killed some Ce and some Mu, realised I had no patience, and rolled a DsMo, wanting to punch stuff. Not had a successful puncher since my UNE Beastfighter, so it sounded like fun. Got Claws 1 as first mut - big result - then found a faded altar.

What could be more in the Ds spirit than a random god? So of course, I got XOM. At first I was like, crap, but so far XOM has been pretty chill, and seems to have spent more time helping me than trying to kill me, so thats cool. Don't suppose it will last long, but nevermind.

Posting thishere for mutation posterity:

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1718-g72dbe4d (console) character file. vogonpoet the Black Belt (Demonspawn Monk) Turns: 27311, Time: 02:07:20 HP: 128/128 (129) AC: 33 Str: 25 XL: 15 Next: 31% MP: 27/27 EV: 12 Int: 16 God: Xom [....*.] Gold: 368 SH: 0 Dex: 21 Spells: 4 memorised, 8 levels left rFire + + . SeeInvis + - Unarmed rCold + . . Clarity + f - +2 plate armour {rF+} rNeg . . . SustAt . (no shield) rPois + Gourm . H - +2 hat {SInv} rElec + Spirit . x - +1 cloak rCorr . Warding . (gloves unavailable) rMut . Stasis . t - +0 pair of boots of Responsibility {rElec rC- Str+2 Dex+4} MR ++... W - amulet of clarity Stlth .......... K - ring "Qezxagaza" {MP+9 Str+2 Int+3 Dex+3 SInv} o - +6 ring of strength @: studying Shields, very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: antennae 2, claws 3, talons 2, rough black scales 3, see invisible, cold resistance 2, demonic guardian 2, fire resistance 1, magic resistance 1, poison resistance, regeneration 1, evolution 1 a: Renounce Religion

Questions:
1. I am going heavy armour, should I get a shield? I have Claws 3 now, so a shield is ok right? I even have a manual of shields, and a shield upstairs someplace.
2. If I want some level 3 spells online in plate/FDA later, should I pump Int or Str? I haven't really got the hang of armoured casters at all yet.

Friday, 4th September 2015, 11:00 by thevogonpoet

Ok, killed off my Xom DsMo, killed off a few more Centaurs, Mummies and Nagas. Even killed off lots of KoBe. So now I have a HaAE. I had one of these get to XL 25, so I don't completely suck at them (thats actually my best AE ever), but I am struggling with this one - couple of issues I am not sure about:

1. What non-magical kill-dudes skill to choose? My current choices seem to be bows, slings, long blades and maces. Not having one of these trained is getting painful, short term I have whips of venom and freeze, loads more arrows than bullets, and just Erica's flaming scimitar, but its a Ha, so long blades or slings seem XP sensible.

2. Should I pick up Bolt of Fire now? I just picked up Fireball from Veh, in non-Air attack desperation - not found very many books at all so far, and was beginning to thing random Electric eels would just have to go unpunished, but I haven't even started training Fire for it yet. Pros for also picking up BoF: Its awesome damage once I get it online, its relatively quiet, I have the spell slots, I have a ring of Fire. Cons: I have no Fire skill right now, and for a long time, against rElec enemies, Fireball will work instead, once I do train Fire.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1763-g847a857 (console) character file. vogonpoet the Zephyrmancer (HaAE) Turns: 31677, Time: 02:53:19 Health: 97/99 AC: 10 Str: 8 XL: 14 Next: 75% Magic: 31/36 EV: 23 Int: 18 God: Vehumet [******] Gold: 1390 SH: 0 Dex: 19 Spells: 7 memorised, 7 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis + i - +2 whip (venom) rCold + . . Clarity . E - +2 leather armour {rC+} rNeg + . . SustAt . (shield restricted) rPois . Gourm . F - +2 hat rElec + Spirit . w - +0 cloak {MR+} rCorr . Warding . O - +0 pair of gloves {Dex+3} rMut . Stasis . S - +0 pair of boots of Insatiable Hunger {rC+} MR ++... (no amulet) Stlth ++........ e - ring of Vanity {rElec MP+9 SInv} G - ring of Ymybupt {Fire rN+} @: repel missiles, very resistant to hostile enchantments, unstealthy A: mutation resistance 1 a: Renounce Religion You are on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 19 of its levels. You have collected 2191 gold pieces. You have spent 801 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons i - a +2 whip of venom (weapon) k - a +0 flail of venom r - a +0 shortbow J - a +1 whip of freezing U - a +0 scimitar of flaming V - a +2 hunting sling of flaming Missiles d - 10 poisoned needles f - 19 sling bullets g - 6 curare-tipped needles C - 37 poisoned arrows L - 23 arrows X - 50 tomahawks (quivered) Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 2 | | | | || 2 Dagger | | 23 | 12 | | || 35 Whip | | | 40 | 160 | 412 || 612 Flail | | | | 7 | || 7 Scimitar | | | | 36 | || 36 Fire: Shortbow | | | 49 | 28 | 8 || 85 Throw: Tomahawk | | | | 12 | 1 || 13 Cast: Shock | 64 | 114 | 136 | 242 | 254 || 810 Static Discharge | | 4 | 32 | 130 | 80 || 246 Repel Missiles | | 1 | 4 | 7 | 2 || 14 Swiftness | | | 4 | 2 | 2 || 8 Lightning Bolt | | | | 96 | 60 || 156 Conjure Ball Ligh | | | | | 84 || 84 <<==Ha ha, awesome Evoke: Wand | | | | 3 | 4 || 7 Use: Scroll | | 4 | 10 | 8 | 7 || 29 Potion | | | 2 | 1 | 1 || 4 Stab: Sleeping | | 2 | 1 | | || 3 Invisible | | | 2 | | || 2 Eat: Chunk | 2 | 10 | 10 | 51 | 75 || 148 Beef jerky | | | 3 | 1 | 1 || 5 Fruit | | | 2 | 1 | || 3 Royal jelly | | | 2 | 1 | || 3 Meat ration | | | | 3 | 2 || 5 Bread ration | | | | | 1 || 1

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