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Blades Runner

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Joined: Monday, 23rd March 2015, 05:29

Post Thursday, 6th August 2015, 04:58

CiP: NaFE of Makh - What to train?

xl12 NaFE halfway through lair. I have a staff of wizardry, a dagger of holy wrath, and access to statue form. Assuming I will continue to train conjurations and stealth, what additional skills will best ensure my survival? I figure my options are: Invocations for Makhleb summons; Earth and Transmutations for statue form (and dragon form? haven't tried it, not sure how useful it is); short blades to put stealth and holy wrath dagger to good use? Or wait until I find a good weapon and then train its skill? also i know, i haven't ID'd my scrolls yet, idk why.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17-a0-1636-g3119f2b (console) character file.

yesno the Covert (Naga Fire Elementalist)           Turns: 9924, Time: 01:49:02

Health: 106/106    AC: 11    Str: 13    XL:     12   Next: 10%
Magic:  27/27      EV: 12    Int: 16    God:    Makhleb [***...]
Gold:   123        SH:  0    Dex: 14    Spells: 6 memorised, 4 levels left

rFire  + . .     SeeInvis +     a - +2 dagger (venom)
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     o - +2 leather armour {rC+}
rNeg   . . .     SustAt   .     (no shield)
rPois  +         Gourm    .     (no helmet)
rElec  .         Spirit   .     U - +2 cloak
rCorr  .         Warding  .     (no gloves)
rMut   .         Stasis   .     (no barding)
MR     +....                    (no amulet)
Stlth  +++++.....               L - ring of fire
                                Q - ring of magical power

@: very slow, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy
A: see invisible, deformed body, poison resistance, slowness 2, slow metabolism
1, spit poison 2, AC +4
a: Spit Poison, Minor Destruction, Lesser Servant of Makhleb, Renounce Religion


You are on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Makhleb.
Makhleb is most pleased with you.
You are full.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 14 of its levels.

You have collected 378 gold pieces.
You have spent 255 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +2 dagger of venom (weapon)
 e - a +2 dagger of holy wrath
 h - a +0 dagger
 m - a blowgun
 p - an uncursed hunting sling
 D - an arbalest
 T - a -3 lajatang
 X - a +0 spear
Missiles
 q - 127 stones (quivered)
 B - 33 poisoned needles
 G - 4 needles of sleeping
 H - 4 curare-tipped needles
Armour
 l - a +1 leather armour
 o - a +2 leather armour of cold resistance (worn)
 t - a storm dragon hide
 y - a +0 robe
 F - a +0 cloak
 U - a +2 cloak (worn)
Magical staves
 b - an uncursed staff of wizardry
Jewellery
 d - a ruby ring
 x - an uncursed ring of positive energy
 L - a ring of fire (right hand)
 Q - a ring of magical power (left hand)
Magical devices
 i - a wand of flame {zapped: 11}
 n - a wand of digging {zapped: 2}
 J - a wand of polymorph (3)
 K - a wand of lightning {empty}
 O - a wand of draining (0)
 R - a wand of fire
 S - a wand of cold {empty}
 Y - a wand of teleportation (7)
Scrolls
 f - 2 scrolls of remove curse
 r - a scroll of recharging
 E - a scroll labeled BYOMUL POUJOY
 I - a scroll labeled GOTOEL AMPECEX
 M - a scroll labeled CUITYLAEF
 P - a scroll of torment
 V - a scroll labeled DUCUCL TYCORO
Potions
 v - 2 potions of flight
 w - 2 purple potions
 N - 2 potions of cure mutation
 W - a potion of heal wounds
Books
 g - a book of Geomancy   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Sandblast                    Earth                         1
    b - Stoneskin                    Transmutation/Earth           2
    c - Passwall                     Transmutation/Earth           3
    d - Stone Arrow                  Conjuration/Earth             3
    e - Petrify                      Transmutation/Earth           4
    f - Lee's Rapid Deconstruction   Earth                         5
 k - a book of Transfigurations   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Stoneskin                    Transmutation/Earth           2
    b - Irradiate                    Conjuration/Transmutation     5
    c - Statue Form                  Transmutation/Earth           6
    d - Hydra Form                   Transmutation                 6
    e - Dragon Form                  Transmutation                 7
 A - a book of Flames   
   
    Spells                             Type                      Level
    a - Flame Tongue                 Conjuration/Fire              1
    b - Throw Flame                  Conjuration/Fire              2
    c - Conjure Flame                Conjuration/Fire              3
    d - Inner Flame                  Hexes/Fire                    3
    e - Sticky Flame                 Conjuration/Fire              4
    f - Fireball                     Conjuration/Fire              5
Miscellaneous
 j - a legendary deck of cards {drawn: 1}
Comestibles
 c - 4 bread rations
 s - 8 fruits
 u - 8 chunks of flesh
 z - a beef jerky
 C - 2 slices of pizza


   Skills:
 + Level 6.8 Fighting
 + Level 5.6 Armour
 + Level 5.6 Dodging
 + Level 10.8 Stealth
 + Level 4.1 Spellcasting
 * Level 9.4 Conjurations
 * Level 9.8 Fire Magic


You have 4 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Flame Tongue          Conj/Fire      #####        1%          1    None
b - Conjure Flame         Conj/Fire      ######..     1%          3    ###....
c - Throw Flame           Conj/Fire      ######       1%          2    ##.....
d - Sticky Flame          Conj/Fire      ######..     4%          4    ####...
e - Stoneskin             Trmt/Erth      #.......     30%         2    ##.....
f - Stone Arrow           Conj/Erth      ###...       12%         3    ###....


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (8/15)             Temple (1/1) D:6            Lair (5/8) D:8
  Swamp (0/4) Lair:4     
 Snake: Lair:3-6    Spider: Lair:3-6   

Altars:
Cheibriados
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Ru
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
The Shining One

Shops:
D:5 (   D:7 }([

Annotations:
D:3 exclusion: 3 doors
Lair:4 exclusions: blink frog, giant frog and spiny frog


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear boots.
Your serpentine skin is tough (AC +4).
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.
Your system is resistant to poisons.
You cover ground very slowly.
You have a slow metabolism.
You can spit poison.


Message History

You feel a surge of power! The flame tongue hits the porcupine.
The porcupine appears unharmed.
Casting: Flame Tongue
Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells.
Aiming: Flame Tongue
Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f/p - porcupine
Aim: a porcupine
You feel a surge of power! The flame tongue hits the porcupine.
You kill the porcupine!
Makhleb accepts your kill.
Found a scroll of recharging. Found a stone staircase leading down.
Found a stone of tremors.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
r - a scroll of recharging
A crocodile comes into view.
You see here a stone of tremors.
The helpless crocodile fails to defend itself.
You skewer the crocodile like a kebab!!!
You kill the crocodile!
Makhleb accepts your kill.

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#.#P..##
##...P##
 ##...}##
  #...#.##
  ##.....####
   ##.....@.#
   #.......##
   #.#.#..P#
   #####...#
       #...#
       #...#
       #...#
       #..##


There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  A hydra (Lair:1)
  A queen ant (Lair:2)
  2 black mambas
  4 spiny frogs
  4 komodo dragons (Lair:3)
  6 polar bears (Lair:4)
  4 blink frogs (Lair:1)
  A trapdoor spider (Lair:1)
  10 yaks
  4 hippogriffs
  A golden eye (Lair:1)
  Menkaure (D:7)
  13 soldier ants (Lair:2)
  Edmund (D:6)
  6 porcupines
  2 water moccasins
  An ice beast (D:7)
  A sky beast (D:8)
  3 centaurs
  5 ogres
  7 crocodiles
  5 giant frogs
  2 scorpions
  2 wights (D:5)
  A crimson imp (D:8)
  3 hounds
  A vampire bat (D:3)
  A jelly (D:4)
  3 orc priests
  6 orc wizards
  4 iguanas
  17 worker ants
  4 gnolls (D:7)
  A river rat (Lair:4)
  7 adders
  2 shadow imps
  4 oozes
  An adder skeleton (D:6)
  A worm (D:3)
  9 giant geckos
  12 orcs
  A ball python (D:2)
  9 bats
  4 bat skeletons
  3 bat zombies (D:3)
  8 giant cockroaches
  12 goblins
  8 hobgoblins
  7 jackals
  5 quokkas
  4 giant newts
  2 jackal skeletons (D:4)
  12 kobolds
  11 rats
250 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An orc (D:6)
  10 fungi
  2 plants
13 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 263 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | yesno the Naga Fire Elementalist began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 15/15 MP: 3/3
    91 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 16/22 MP: 5/5
   421 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
   421 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 14/31 MP: 0/6
   856 | D:2      | Found a faded altar to an unknown god.
  1066 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 34/38 MP: 2/7
  1194 | D:2      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  1374 | D:3      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  1378 | D:3      | Reached skill level 4 in Stealth
  1505 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 38/44 MP: 6/8
  1945 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
  2476 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 52/52 MP: 9/9
  2836 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  2847 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  2847 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
  2897 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 48/60 MP: 10/10
  2923 | D:4      | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
  2926 | D:4      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Flame
  3216 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3891 | D:5      | Found Zurhutu Deef's Antique Weapon Shop.
  3894 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic
  4027 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 67/69 MP: 5/11
  4045 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth
  4106 | D:6      | Noticed Edmund
  4116 | D:6      | Killed Edmund
  4346 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  4530 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4539 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  4575 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Makhleb the Destroyer
  4993 | D:7      | Noticed Menkaure
  5037 | D:7      | Killed Menkaure
  5076 | D:7      | Found Susigam's Antique Armour Shop.
  5181 | D:7      | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth
  5181 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 37/78 MP: 4/12
  5276 | D:7      | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame
  5329 | D:7      | Found Tohuhon's Antique Weapon Boutique.
  5345 | D:7      | Found Ynampyw's Gadget Boutique.
  5438 | D:7      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  5468 | D:7      | Acquired Makhleb's first power
  5620 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  5833 | D:5      | Bought a runed lajatang for 255 gold pieces
  5906 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  5906 | Lair:1   | Noticed a black mamba
  5906 | Lair:1   | Noticed a black mamba
  5913 | Lair:1   | a black mamba changed into a trapdoor spider
  6126 | Lair:1   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
  6139 | Lair:1   | Killed a four-headed hydra
  6139 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth
  6176 | Lair:1   | Killed a black mamba
  6176 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 10. HP: 77/87 MP: 3/13
  6184 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  6342 | Lair:1   | Noticed a black mamba
  6354 | Lair:1   | Noticed an orb spider
  6354 | Lair:1   | a black mamba changed into an orb spider
  6358 | Lair:1   | an orb spider changed into a golden eye
  6505 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth
  6889 | Lair:1   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
  6969 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 2 spell: Stoneskin
  6977 | Lair:1   | Noticed a spiny frog
  7017 | Lair:1   | HP: 1/88 [spiny frog (15)]
  7018 | Lair:1   | Killed a spiny frog
  7019 | Lair:1   | lol
  7519 | Lair:2   | Noticed a queen ant
  7522 | Lair:2   | Acquired Makhleb's second power
  7522 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 95/97 MP: 1/14
  7537 | Lair:2   | Killed a queen ant
  7601 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  8029 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  8029 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
  8747 | Lair:3   | Upgraded the game from 0.17-a0-1582-ge6b0260 to 0.17-a0-1636-g3119f2b
  8867 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
  8892 | Lair:4   | Learned a level 3 spell: Stone Arrow
  9372 | Lair:4   | Acquired Makhleb's third power
  9527 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 57/106 MP: 14/18


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Club              |    11 |       |       |       ||    11
       Unarmed           |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Dagger            |    26 |    61 |    81 |    45 ||   213
       Spear             |       |       |       |    31 ||    31
       Staff             |       |       |       |     4 ||     4
Throw: Stone             |       |       |       |     5 ||     5
 Cast: Flame Tongue      |    28 |    73 |   137 |   177 ||   415
       Throw Flame       |       |       |     6 |     3 ||     9
       Conjure Flame     |       |       |     5 |     9 ||    14
       Sticky Flame      |       |       |     1 |    43 ||    44
       Stoneskin         |       |       |       |     5 ||     5
 Abil: Spit Poison       |    18 |    20 |    29 |    39 ||   106
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     3 |    30 ||    33
       Deck              |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Use: Potion            |       |     2 |     3 |    10 ||    15
       Scroll            |       |       |    14 |    10 ||    24
 Stab: Sleeping          |     5 |    12 |    11 |    10 ||    38
  Eat: Chunk             |     2 |     7 |    13 |     5 ||    27
       Meat ration       |       |       |     1 |     4 ||     5
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Slime Squisher

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Post Thursday, 6th August 2015, 05:19

Re: CiP: NaFE of Makh - What to train?

I would train only spellcasting for now at least to 10 points. Fire conjurer needs more MP than 27 especially when not worshiping Vehumet. Other good ones would be Fighting, Dodging and Invocations.

Also why haven't you learned Fireball? It is loud and compromises your stealth a bit but it also clears the Lair with relative ease.

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Blades Runner

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Post Thursday, 6th August 2015, 05:34

Re: CiP: NaFE of Makh - What to train?

Sphara wrote:Also why haven't you learned Fireball? It is loud and compromises your stealth a bit but it also clears the Lair with relative ease.


because it is loud and compromises my stealth! ;p as a naga i can't escape easily if i draw a lot of enemies, and as you noticed i don't have a lot of mp, either. i definitely might boost spellcasting soon, especially if i don't find a strong weapon. at the moment i've mostly been killing things with spit poison, conjure flame, sticky flame, and poison dagger.

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Post Thursday, 6th August 2015, 06:28

Re: CiP: NaFE of Makh - What to train?

dead of trying to fight an 8-headed hydra (why? got impatient)

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