YASD: GRBE of TSO ... in the grasp of idiocy :(

[Schussel]

Hey .. finally a stony char that did not splat vs an oger or by meeting a horde of priests.

Even as the beginning was ... stony (haha) it went smooth after the first levels ...

The build of a javelin-chucking clubber was quite basic .. taken from some MiBe-build i found.

This gargoyle can take anything ...

with a quite early plate armor of the bull (+4str, +4 slay) i was able to tackle the early branches and depths up to 3 until a lucky golden dragon armour and a flood of enchant armour scrolls made this little rocky guy even harder ... 71 AC rocks.

Difficult points on the journey were ... the usual orc:1 horde (you know .. you cleared Orc 1-3 and want to check that one leftover stairs up .. and bam .. middle of a horde with priests, sorcs, and knights. Thanks trog for the help). Further were only in the later parts ... Gehenna, Tartarus and Cocytus fell with a bit of back and forth .. of Gehenna with only F++ was quite hard .. and it took me 2 levels of piety and about 10 summons (in pairs) to defeat Asmodeus ... Ereshkigal and Anteus were quite a lot easier.

Tso made it quite easy and Trog never managed to really hurt me with his wrath.

Going for Slime without any Corrosion gear was a bit strange but fun ... the royal jelly went down after a while .. even if i had to retreat alot from the corrosion of his minions and many daevas and angels lost their lives.

Passwall finally made it an easy loot.

What i hated abit was the Abyss ... due to the nevercoming exit after picking the rune ... but after felt days it appeared and since then always was within 10 steps.

So i here i am now ... further than ever before and wondering .. what should i do ... Dis kinda gives me the creeps ... Pandemonium i never have been to ... and Zot .. i did not tackle yet.
I planned to at least built up haste before the ascent ... what would you do.

PS: i am rich .. never had this many unused gold.

I appreciate your guidance

Chardump below:

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15.2 (webtiles) character file.

BoredOne the Invulnerable (Gargoyle Berserker)     Turns: 98845, Time: 10:42:06

HP 192/192       AC 73     Str 31      XL: 27
MP  39/39        EV 12     Int 23      God: the Shining One [*****.]
Gold 8134        SH 29     Dex 12      Spells:  6 memorised, 26 levels left

rFire  + + .     SeeInvis +     k - +8 Blessed Scourge
rCold  + + +     Clarity  +     V - +12 gold dragon armour
rNeg   + + +     rCorr    .     b - +2 large shield
rPois  +         rRot     +     s - +1 helmet {Int+3}
rElec  +         Spirit   .     d - -1 cloak of the Beekeeper {+Blink rC+ Int+4 SInv}
SustAb +         Warding  .     x - +2 pair of gloves {rC+}
rMut   .         Stasis   .     O - +1 pair of boots {+Jump}
Gourm  .                        I - amulet of clarity
MR     ++...                    H - ring "Yreneabb" {SustAb Str+3 Int+2}
                                u - ring of Thustugg {rF+ AC+2 Str+3}

@: flying, glowing, very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: able to fly continuously, big wings, deterioration 1, negative energy
resistance 1, electricity resistance, unbreathing, petrification resistance, rot
immunity, AC +20
a: Stop Flying, Divine Shield, Cleansing Flame, Summon Divine Warrior, Renounce
Religion, Evoke Blink, Evoke Jump Attack
}: 8/15 runes: decaying, slimy, silver, obsidian, icy, bone, abyssal, gossamer


You are on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship the Shining One.
The Shining One is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 15 branches of the dungeon, and seen 82 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 7 times.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Bailey, Ice Cave and Volcano.

You have collected 9915 gold pieces.
You have spent 1781 gold pieces at shops.


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
You are immune to poison.
You can fly continuously.
Your stone body is very resilient (AC +20).
Your wings are large and strong.
You resist negative energy.
You are resistant to electric shocks.
You can survive without breathing.
You are immune to petrification.
You are immune to rotting.
Your body is slowly deteriorating.


   Skills:
 - Level 24.6 Fighting
 - Level 18.0 Maces & Flails
 - Level 8.3 Throwing
 O Level 27 Armour
 - Level 18.3 Dodging
 - Level 25.7 Shields
 - Level 9.9 Spellcasting
 - Level 9.7 Charms
 + Level 6.1 Earth Magic
 - Level 10.7 Invocations


You have 26 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
b - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          67%         2    None
e - Apportation           Tloc           ##........   41%         1    None
h - Haste                 Chrm           ######..     90%         6    ######.
t - Control Teleport      Chrm/Tloc      ####......   56%         4    ##.....
z - Spectral Weapon       Hex/Chrm       ####....     17%         3    None
N - Passwall              Trmt/Erth      ####......   30%         3    None


Inventory:

Hand weapons
 k - a +8 Blessed Scourge (weapon)
 t - a +2 morningstar of holy wrath
Missiles
 w - 10 javelins of penetration
 X - 14 silver javelins (quivered)
Armour
 b - a +2 large shield (worn)
 d - the -1 cloak of the Beekeeper (worn) {+Blink rC+ Int+4 SInv}
   (You found it on level 12 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It protects you from cold.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It lets you blink.
 s - a +1 helmet of intelligence (worn)
 x - a +2 pair of gloves of cold resistance (worn)
 O - a +1 pair of boots of jumping (worn)
 V - a +12 gold dragon armour (worn)
Magical devices
 j - a wand of disintegration (7)
 m - a wand of digging (2)
 p - a wand of digging {zapped: 2}
 y - a wand of teleportation (4) {!d}
Comestibles
 h - 13 beef jerkies
 M - 15 meat rations
 R - 4 fruits
 W - a bread ration
Scrolls
 a - a scroll of teleportation
 e - 2 scrolls of fog
 i - 4 scrolls of remove curse
 o - a scroll of silence
 r - 4 scrolls of enchant armour
 v - 4 scrolls of identify
 D - a scroll of fear
 G - a scroll of amnesia
 J - 4 scrolls of recharging
 S - a scroll of blinking
Jewellery
 c - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 n - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation
 u - the ring of Thustugg (left hand) {rF+ AC+2 Str+3}
   (You found it on level 7 of Tartarus)   
   
   [ring of protection]
   
   It affects your AC (+2).
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It protects you from fire.
 E - an uncursed amulet of warding
 F - a vibrating diamond amulet
 H - the ring "Yreneabb" (right hand) {SustAb Str+3 Int+2}
   (You took it off an ironheart preserver on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of sustain abilities]
   
   It sustains your strength, intelligence and dexterity.
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
 I - an amulet of clarity (around neck)
 T - the ring of Vitality {HP+15 Regen}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [ring of regeneration]
   
   It affects your health (+15).
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
 U - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
Potions
 f - 2 potions of berserk rage
 g - a potion of cancellation
 l - a potion of haste
 B - 2 potions of agility
 C - 4 potions of curing
 L - a potion of resistance
Books
 N - the Volume of Icy Confrontation
   (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Sting                              Conjuration/Poison           1
   Freeze                             Ice                          1
   Ice Form                           Ice/Transmutation            4
   Venom Bolt                         Conjuration/Poison           5
   Freezing Cloud                     Conjuration/Ice/Air          6
 P - a book of Summonings
 Y - a book of Cantrips
Magical staves
 z - a crooked runed staff
 A - a long runed staff
 K - a crooked smoking staff
 Q - a crooked runed staff
Miscellaneous
 q - a lamp of fire (inert)


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4             Orc (4/4) D:9
    Elf (3/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:8           Swamp (5/5) Lair:5
 Spider (5/5) Lair:5        Slime (6/6) Lair:8       Vaults (5/5) D:13
  Crypt (3/3) Vaults:3       Tomb (0/3) Crypt:3      Depths (5/5) D:15
   Hell (1/1)                 Dis (0/7) Hell            Geh (7/7) Hell
    Coc (7/7) Hell            Tar (7/7) Hell       
   Zot: Depths:5   


[tovical]

I could've just gotten lucky with a Dis generated that was "easy" but my GrFi of Zin found Dis to be the easiest of the Hells (and it was the first time I'd ever been there). If you did the other three Hell branches already, I don't imagine you'd have any particular difficulty in Dis. The layout might also be pretty interesting, so if you're into that kind of thing like me, it might be worth going jut to see it. I had a blast on my first run to Tartarus in some kind of layout with sealed vaults, a large mausoleum, and a labyrinth.

[Schussel]

i up the runecount to 9 ... Dispater fell to a daeva, a silence scroll and a berserk potion and his minions quickly made way ... YAY TEAM STONEDUDE!

[tovical]

Congratulations! On my run I got the Tomb rune, too, and got a 10 rune victory. Your stats look okay for Tomb, but you may want to do some reading up on it first. I don't know if you know, but it is one of the most deadly areas in the game.

[celem]

Yeah I love gargoyles, the epic AC...

I will say my own gargoyles actively hate the City of Dis, ranking it second behind Gehanna in difficulty. Hopefully you've already encountered the Hell Serpent elsewhere, as this is not really the place for a Gr to meet him..

You can probably do tomb with this guy (I did with my Gr's), and I wouldnt rate it as harder than Tartarus, which is the easiest hell for an rTorm species in my mind, though you need to pay attention to whats going on and who is entering screen even more so. Resists are good, you wont see fire in the tomb as a rule. You lack the high evocations and elemental summons I normally have for this bit though. There are plenty of summoners in there and you might want a source of warding. You will absolutely need SustAb or a good stack of restore pots, its worse than the hells for that. On the flipside you have holy warriors and that very loud bomb thing TSO grants, oughta be fine. Give commands to your summoned angels and daevas and give them a target so that they use their smite targeting to your benefit vs the susceptible summoner mummies.

Also Holy word is a nice nuke to carry incase Tomb3 gets out of hand. Take the time to learn the layout as you go down, Tomb 1 and 2 change very little between runs though there are a few 3's.

To be honest, Pan is easier than any given hell or the tomb for 9/10 characters. It's the lack of a stair out that creeps us out, but once I bit the bullet I did indeed find is far simpler than hells. In Pan the secret is knowing what the various monsters can do and which needs to die next. This is a skill for any stage of the game but quite key in Pan.

Edit: You seem to be completely out of heals? That sucks a bit, but to be honest, I'd run the tomb without them with that char, stairdance as needed.

[Schussel]

thanks for the advice i did not get to answer quickly or play more due to christmas time .. crazy parties all week ...
Now i decided to try pan ... but before i explore the depths in hope of a bazaar or another potion shop ..

Do you think that it is possible to restock on potions again (esp . curing and "big health").

i know i could go ziggurat as well for loot but so far i only found one and as being my first i would not want to risk it too much.

[Schussel]

and there it went down ... curbstomping pan as i found hellion island ...

i stood brave and killed alot of them with javs .. when i ran out of them i summoned deavas and angels .. hasting them ans making them kill them 1 by 1 ...

but on the very last one i was overjoying and allowed them to drop me below 30hp ...

only looking at the angel attacking waiting for an opening in the fog the last helion hellfired twice and ... -1 hp ... TSO sadly was fetching a new beer, so this went down ..

Lessons learned .. never underestimate hellfire ... and always keep hasting

But all in all it was an amazing game with the curbstomp of all 4 hells, seeing Pan the first time and the great battle of the slimes

thanks Tolias for the hints ingame

Any final advice (besides watch your freaking hp and dont chat and fight helions)?

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15.2 (webtiles) character file.

983331 BoredOne the Invulnerable (level 27, -1/199 HPs)
             Began as a Gargoyle Berserker on Dec 5, 2014.
             Was the Champion of the Shining One.
             Killed from afar by a hellion (16 damage)
             ... with a burst of hellfire
             ... in Pandemonium on Dec 13, 2014.
             The game lasted 12:00:56 (110831 turns).

BoredOne the Invulnerable (Gargoyle Berserker)    Turns: 110831, Time: 12:01:26

HP  -1/199       AC 74     Str 31      XL: 27
MP  27/39        EV 12     Int 23      God: the Shining One [******]
Gold 9879        SH 29     Dex 12      Spells:  9 memorised, 17 levels left

rFire  + + .     SeeInvis +     k - +8 Blessed Scourge
rCold  + + +     Clarity  .     V - +12 gold dragon armour
rNeg   + + +     rCorr    .     b - +2 large shield
rPois  +         rRot     +     z - +2 helmet {Int+3}
rElec  +         Spirit   .     d - -1 cloak of the Beekeeper {+Blink rC+ Int+4 SInv}
SustAb +         Warding  .     x - +2 pair of gloves {rC+}
rMut   +         Stasis   .     O - +1 pair of boots {+Jump}
Gourm  .                        n - amulet of resist mutation
MR     ++...                    H - ring "Yreneabb" {SustAb Str+3 Int+2}
                                u - ring of Thustugg {rF+ AC+2 Str+3}

@: flying, glowing, very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: able to fly continuously, big wings, deterioration 1, negative energy
resistance 1, electricity resistance, unbreathing, petrification resistance, rot
immunity, AC +20
a: Stop Flying, Divine Shield, Cleansing Flame, Summon Divine Warrior, Renounce
Religion, Evoke Blink, Evoke Jump Attack
}: 9/15 runes: decaying, slimy, silver, iron, obsidian, icy, bone, abyssal,
gossamer


You were in Pandemonium.
You worshipped the Shining One.
The Shining One was exalted by your worship.
You were very hungry.

You visited 16 branches of the dungeon, and saw 89 of its levels.
You visited Pandemonium 1 time, and saw 5 of its levels.
You visited the Abyss 7 times.
You also visited: Labyrinth, Bailey, Ice Cave and Volcano.

You collected 11660 gold pieces.
You spent 1781 gold pieces at shops.


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
You are immune to poison.
You can fly continuously.
Your stone body is very resilient (AC +20).
Your wings are large and strong.
You resist negative energy.
You are resistant to electric shocks.
You can survive without breathing.
You are immune to petrification.
You are immune to rotting.
Your body is slowly deteriorating.


   Skills:
 O Level 27 Fighting
 - Level 18.0 Maces & Flails
 - Level 8.3 Throwing
 O Level 27 Armour
 - Level 18.3 Dodging
 - Level 25.7 Shields
 - Level 9.9 Spellcasting
 - Level 17.6 Charms
 - Level 7.6 Summonings
 - Level 6.1 Earth Magic
 + Level 14.0 Invocations


You had 17 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
b - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          67%         2    None
e - Apportation           Tloc           ##........   41%         1    None
h - Haste                 Chrm           #######.     4%          6    ######.
t - Control Teleport      Chrm/Tloc      ######....   12%         4    ##.....
w - Abjuration            Summ           #####.....   6%          3    None
z - Spectral Weapon       Hex/Chrm       ######..     3%          3    None
G - Silence               Hex/Air        ##........   100%        5    ####...
N - Passwall              Trmt/Erth      ####......   30%         3    None
R - Summon Butterflies    Summ           #####...     1%          1    None


Inventory:

Hand weapons
 k - a +8 Blessed Scourge (weapon)
Armour
 b - a +2 large shield (worn)
 d - the -1 cloak of the Beekeeper (worn) {+Blink rC+ Int+4 SInv}
   (You found it on level 12 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It protects you from cold.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It lets you blink.
 x - a +2 pair of gloves of cold resistance (worn)
 z - a +2 helmet of intelligence (worn)
 O - a +1 pair of boots of jumping (worn)
 V - a +12 gold dragon armour (worn)
Magical devices
 g - a wand of digging (10)
 j - a wand of disintegration (4)
 l - a wand of paralysis (14)
 m - a wand of digging (2)
 y - a wand of teleportation (3) {!d}
Comestibles
 h - 7 beef jerkies
 t - a bread ration
 M - 15 meat rations
Scrolls
 a - 4 scrolls of teleportation
 e - 5 scrolls of fog
 i - 5 scrolls of remove curse
 D - 2 scrolls of fear
 J - 5 scrolls of recharging
 Q - 7 scrolls of identify
 R - 3 scrolls of vulnerability
 Z - 2 scrolls of blinking
Jewellery
 c - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 n - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
 o - the ring of Lies {-Tele +Fly Stlth+}
   (You found it on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)   
   
   [ring of stealth]
   
   It lets you fly.
   It prevents most forms of teleportation.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 u - the ring of Thustugg (left hand) {rF+ AC+2 Str+3}
   (You found it on level 7 of Tartarus)   
   
   [ring of protection]
   
   It affects your AC (+2).
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It protects you from fire.
 E - an uncursed amulet of warding
 H - the ring "Yreneabb" (right hand) {SustAb Str+3 Int+2}
   (You took it off an ironheart preserver on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of sustain abilities]
   
   It sustains your strength, intelligence and dexterity.
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
 I - an uncursed amulet of clarity
 S - the ring "Bloa" {+Fly rN+ MR++ Int+4}
   (You found it on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)   
   
   [ring of intelligence]
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you fly.
 T - the ring of Vitality {HP+15 Regen}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [ring of regeneration]
   
   It affects your health (+15).
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
 U - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
Potions
 f - a potion of berserk rage
 s - a potion of heal wounds
 v - a potion of might
 B - 2 potions of agility
 C - 2 potions of curing
 L - 2 potions of resistance
Books
 r - a book of Party Tricks
 A - a book of the Dragon
 F - a book of Beasts
 G - a book of the Sky
 K - the Papyrus of Curses and the Escort
   (You found it on level 4 of the Depths)   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Summon Butterflies                Summoning                    1
   Summon Small Mammal                Summoning                    1
   Inner Flame                        Hexes/Fire                   3
   Confuse                            Hexes                        3
   Call Canine Familiar               Summoning                    3
   Enslavement                        Hexes                        4
 N - the Volume of Icy Confrontation
   (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Sting                              Conjuration/Poison           1
   Freeze                             Ice                          1
   Ice Form                           Ice/Transmutation            4
   Venom Bolt                         Conjuration/Poison           5
   Freezing Cloud                     Conjuration/Ice/Air          6
 P - a book of Summonings
 Y - a book of Cantrips
Miscellaneous
 p - a sack of spiders {used: 1}
 q - a lamp of fire
 W - a lamp of fire


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4             Orc (4/4) D:9
    Elf (3/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:8           Swamp (5/5) Lair:5
 Spider (5/5) Lair:5        Slime (6/6) Lair:8       Vaults (5/5) D:13
  Crypt (3/3) Vaults:3       Tomb (0/3) Crypt:3      Depths (5/5) D:15
   Hell (1/1)                 Dis (7/7) Hell            Geh (7/7) Hell
    Coc (7/7) Hell            Tar (7/7) Hell            Zot (0/5) Depths:5

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva
Lugonu

Shops:
D:8 [[   Orc:4 [:*(   Elf:2 ?   Vaults:4 }   Depths:2 }

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Abyss: Depths:1 Depths:3 Depths:4
Pandemonium: Depths:3 Depths:5
Ziggurat: Depths:3

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You could see a hellion and a friendly daeva.

Message History

Aiming: Haste
Aim: a daeva, wielding an eudemon blade of holy wrath and wearing a large shield (friendly, summoned, haloed)
Your daeva seems to speed up.
The hellion gestures at you.
The hellfire explodes! The burst of hellfire engulfs you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Your daeva calls down the wrath of the Shining One upon the hellion.
The hellion is smitten.
The hellion dies!
The Shining One accepts your collateral kill.
Your Invocations skill increases to level 14!
The hellion gestures at you.
The hellfire explodes! The burst of hellfire engulfs you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Your daeva hits the hellion with an eudemon blade of holy wrath!!
The hellion convulses!!
The hellion dies!
The Shining One accepts your collateral kill.
The Shining One blesses your daeva with more time in this world.
The hellion gestures at you.
The hellfire explodes! The burst of hellfire engulfs you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The hellion gestures at you.
The hellfire explodes! The burst of hellfire engulfs you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The burst of hellfire engulfs your daeva.
The hellfire explodes!
The burst of hellfire engulfs your daeva.
The burst of hellfire engulfs you!
You die...


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total
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Melee: Mace              |   126 |   135 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       ||   261
       Flail             |       |    84 |   299 |   669 |       |       |       |       |       ||  1052
       Morningstar       |       |       |       |   292 |  1805 |   704 |   518 |       |  1634 ||  4953
       Great mace        |       |       |       |       |   467 |   892 |       |       |       ||  1359
       Unarmed           |       |       |       |       |    37 |       |       |       |       ||    37
       Eveningstar       |       |       |       |       |       |   605 |       |       |       ||   605
       Demon whip        |       |       |       |       |       |       |  2597 |  2995 |  1620 ||  7212
       Sacred scourge    |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |  8058 ||  8058
Throw: Javelin           |       |     1 |    61 |    44 |    59 |    53 |    16 |    24 |   128 ||   386
       Tomahawk          |       |       |     3 |    11 |     6 |     7 |       |       |       ||    27
 Cast: Passwall          |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     8 ||     8
       Haste             |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     6 ||     6
       Spectral Weapon   |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     3 ||     3
       Apportation       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
Invok: Berserk           |       |     2 |     8 |    14 |    20 |     2 |     6 |     2 |     2 ||    56
       Trog's Hand       |       |     1 |     5 |     9 |    29 |    15 |    27 |    19 |    13 ||   118
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |       |       |    15 |    10 |    10 |    16 |     4 ||    55
       Divine Shield     |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     7 ||     7
       Cleansing Flame   |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    60 ||    60
       Summon Divine War |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    34 ||    34
 Abil: Fly               |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |     1 |     1 |     2 ||     6
       Stop Flying       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |     1 |       |     2 ||     4
       Evoke Blink       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |     8 |     7 |     8 |     4 |     2 |    27 ||    56
       Rod               |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Phial of floods   |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
       Lamp of fire      |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
       Sack of spiders   |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |     5 |       |    10 |    10 |    22 |    18 |    11 |    18 |    61 ||   155
       Potion            |       |       |     2 |     3 |     3 |     8 |    13 |     9 |    27 ||    65
 Stab: Invisible         |       |       |       |       |     3 |       |       |       |       ||     3
       Distracted        |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |     1 |    15 ||    17
       Confused          |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Sleeping          |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     1 |     8 |    13 |    26 |    59 |    33 |    25 |    42 |    62 ||   269
       Beef jerky        |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       |       |    10 ||    11
       Meat ration       |       |       |     1 |     2 |       |     2 |     4 |     1 |    10 ||    20
       Bread ration      |       |       |     1 |       |     2 |     1 |     3 |     1 |    10 ||    18
       Pizza             |       |       |     1 |     2 |     2 |     1 |     1 |     2 |     4 ||    13
       Fruit             |       |       |       |     1 |    20 |     7 |     2 |     3 |    12 ||    45
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |     1 |     2 |     5 |       |     1 |     2 ||    11

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | BoredOne, the Gargoyle Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 1/1
   438 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 19/19 MP: 2/2
   893 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting
   937 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 21/24 MP: 3/3
  1045 | D:2      | Acquired Trog's second power
  1191 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
  1266 | D:2      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  1330 | D:2      | Reached skill level 2 in Throwing
  1330 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 20/29 MP: 4/4
  1380 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Maces & Flails
  1380 | D:2      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 21/33 MP: 5/5
  2240 | D:2      | Reached skill level 3 in Throwing
  2358 | D:2      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  3057 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 29/38 MP: 6/6
  3305 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3323 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  3427 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  3563 | D:4      | Reached skill level 4 in Throwing
  3852 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 41/43 MP: 7/7
  3952 | D:4      | Noticed Edmund
  3959 | D:4      | Killed Edmund
  3959 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  4012 | D:4      | Noticed a hungry ghost
  4027 | D:4      | Killed a hungry ghost
  4027 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing
  4158 | D:4      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  4161 | D:4      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  4162 | D:4      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  4163 | D:4      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  4167 | D:4      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  4227 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4485 | D:5      | Acquired Trog's third power
  4939 | D:5      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  5041 | D:6      | Noticed Menkaure
  5055 | D:6      | Killed Menkaure
  5055 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 34/48 MP: 8/8
  5113 | D:6      | Noticed Eustachio
  5119 | D:6      | Killed Eustachio
  5119 | D:6      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  5119 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Throwing
  5415 | D:6      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
  5503 | D:6      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  5667 | D:6      | Reached skill level 7 in Throwing
  5784 | D:6      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  5791 | D:6      | Killed Prince Ribbit
  5791 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  6189 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 45/52 MP: 9/9
  6372 | D:7      | Found Sma Blas' Food Emporium.
  6403 | D:7      | Reached skill level 8 in Throwing
  6422 | D:7      | Received a gift from Trog
  6925 | D:8      | Found Taxomo's Armour Emporium.
  6954 | D:8      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  6975 | D:8      | Bought a +2 scale mail of fire resistance for 252 gold pieces
  7040 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  7065 | D:8      | Reached skill level 2 in Shields
  7134 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  7225 | D:8      | Noticed Duvessa
  7225 | D:8      | Noticed Dowan
  7232 | D:8      | Killed Duvessa
  7239 | D:8      | Killed Dowan
  7333 | D:8      | Reached skill level 3 in Shields
  7377 | D:8      | Found Pnuggotu's Antique Armour Shoppe.
  7382 | D:8      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  7606 | D:8      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  7704 | D:8      | Received a gift from Trog
  7704 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 55/60 MP: 10/10
  7782 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  7808 | D:8      | Found Taxomo's Armour Emporium.
  7884 | D:8      | Found Pnuggotu's Antique Armour Shoppe.
  8075 | D:8      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  8157 | D:8      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  8199 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  8225 | D:8      | Reached skill level 4 in Shields
  8261 | D:8      | Reached skill level 6 in Fighting
  8415 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  8487 | Lair:1   | HP: 3/60 [spiny frog (15)]
  8495 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  8814 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
  9108 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Trog
  9108 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 7 in Fighting
  9138 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 6 in Shields
  9706 | Lair:2   | Identified a potion of resistance
  9767 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 8 in Fighting
  9770 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 68/68 MP: 11/11
  9777 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Trog
  9777 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
  9777 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 7 in Shields
  9950 | Lair:2   | Noticed Harold
  9968 | Lair:2   | Killed Harold
 10277 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 9 in Fighting
 10284 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Trog
 10659 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 8 in Shields
 10847 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 3 in Armour
 11223 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 4 in Armour
 11603 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 11620 | Lair:3   | HP: 3/72 [blink frog (10)]
 11682 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
 11816 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 11825 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 75/77 MP: 12/12
 12071 | Lair:3   | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 12077 | Lair:3   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 12306 | Lair:3   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 12312 | Lair:3   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 12312 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 6 in Armour
 13651 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Trog
 13651 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 7 in Armour
 13685 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 11 in Fighting
 13723 | Lair:4   | Noticed Nergalle
 13736 | Lair:4   | Killed Nergalle
 13899 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Trog
 14449 | Lair:4   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 14458 | Lair:4   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 14458 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Trog
 14692 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
 14692 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 8 in Armour
 14725 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 14873 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Trog
 15397 | Lair:5   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 15610 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 85/85 MP: 13/13
 15851 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 9 in Armour
 15862 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 12 in Fighting
 15912 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Trog
 16078 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Trog
 16860 | Lair:7   | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 16869 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 17709 | Lab      | Noticed a minotaur
 17719 | Lab      | Killed a minotaur
 17822 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 18178 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 14 in Maces & Flails
 18501 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Trog
 18567 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 18720 | Lair:8   | Noticed Rupert
 18729 | Lair:8   | Killed Rupert
 19428 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 13 in Fighting
 19500 | Lair:8   | Gained mutation: Your wings are large and strong. [gargoyle growth]
 19500 | Lair:8   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 70/94 MP: 14/14
 19594 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 11 in Armour
 19677 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 19968 | Lair:8   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 19968 | Lair:8   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 20415 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 21114 | Lair:8   | Identified a +0 rod of shadows (9/9) (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 22160 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 22184 | D:9      | Received a gift from Trog
 22222 | D:9      | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails
 22572 | D:9      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
 22627 | D:9      | Found a flagged portal.
 22640 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
 22724 | Bailey   | Got a brightly glowing great sword
 22777 | Bailey   | Reached skill level 12 in Armour
 23328 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 23336 | Orc:1    | Noticed Maurice
 23356 | Orc:1    | Killed Maurice
 23389 | Orc:1    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 23453 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 23748 | Orc:1    | Noticed Grum
 23777 | Orc:1    | Killed Grum
 23830 | Orc:1    | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 23949 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 24128 | Orc:3    | Found a dark tunnel.
 24147 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 24297 | Volcano  | Reached skill level 14 in Fighting
 24701 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 24849 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 24927 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 24933 | Orc:4    | Noticed Fannar
 24948 | Orc:4    | Killed Fannar
 25029 | Orc:4    | Noticed Erica
 25042 | Orc:4    | Killed Erica
 25055 | Orc:4    | Noticed Saint Roka
 25306 | Orc:4    | Killed Saint Roka
 25306 | Orc:4    | Reached XP level 15. HP: 101/101 MP: 5/15
 25545 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 25556 | Orc:4    | Noticed an orc warlord
 25698 | Orc:3    | Noticed Urug
 25736 | Orc:3    | Killed Urug
 26327 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 26871 | Orc:4    | Killed an orc warlord
 26871 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 13 in Armour
 27302 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 27365 | Orc:4    | Found Craireb's General Store.
 27376 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of blinking for 120 gold pieces
 27396 | Orc:4    | Found Fiemmaoc's Antique Armour Emporium.
 27407 | Orc:4    | Bought a glowing cloak for 130 gold pieces
 27439 | Orc:4    | Found Mueni's Book Emporium.
 27455 | Orc:4    | Found Pso Maem's Antique Weapon Emporium.
 27852 | Lair:2   | Identified the +7 great sword of the Open Hand {flame, +Rage rElec} (You found it in a bailey)
 27932 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Trog
 28079 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 28193 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 28674 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 16 in Maces & Flails
 28790 | Spider:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 29719 | Spider:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 29725 | Spider:2 | Found a frozen archway.
 29773 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 30132 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 14 in Armour
 30181 | IceCv    | Reached XP level 16. HP: 109/109 MP: 16/16
 30581 | Spider:2 | Noticed Nessos
 30585 | Spider:2 | Killed Nessos
 30870 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 16 in Fighting
 30882 | Spider:2 | HP: 10/125 [wolf spider (14)]
 30970 | Spider:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 32586 | Spider:4 | Noticed Norris
 32594 | Spider:4 | Paralysed by Norris for 2 turns
 32671 | Spider:3 | Killed Norris
 32671 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 17 in Maces & Flails
 32770 | Spider:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 32806 | Spider:4 | Noticed Wiglaf
 32834 | Spider:4 | Killed Wiglaf
 32834 | Spider:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 33673 | Spider:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 34049 | Spider:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 34226 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest
 34234 | Spider:5 | Reached skill level 17 in Fighting
 34239 | Spider:5 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 117/117 MP: 17/17
 34388 | Spider:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 35483 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
 35542 | Spider:5 | Reached skill level 16 in Armour
 36009 | Spider:5 | Reached skill level 18 in Maces & Flails
 36264 | Lair:2   | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 36343 | D:8      | Bought a +2 large shield for 198 gold pieces
 36414 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 36431 | D:10     | Noticed Psyche
 36438 | D:10     | Killed Psyche
 36775 | D:10     | Received a gift from Trog
 37892 | D:11     | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 37893 | D:11     | Received a gift from Trog
 37921 | D:11     | Got a heavily runed plate armour
 37923 | D:11     | Got an ichor-stained plate armour
 37934 | D:11     | Identified the +0 plate armour "Guvvobasant" {+Inv +Fly rC+ Dex+2} (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon)
 37944 | D:11     | Identified the +10 plate armour of the Bull {Str+4 Slay+4} (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon)
 38298 | D:12     | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong. (Str +2) [potion of beneficial mutation]
 38299 | D:12     | Gained mutation: You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. [potion of beneficial mutation]
 38304 | D:12     | Noticed Erolcha
 38317 | D:12     | Killed Erolcha
 38367 | D:12     | Reached skill level 2 in Dodging
 38488 | D:12     | Noticed Uberwunderbarhen's ghost (powerful SpEn)
 38496 | D:12     | Killed Uberwunderbarhen's ghost
 38501 | D:12     | Got a crude cloak
 38512 | D:12     | Identified the cursed -1 cloak of the Beekeeper {+Blink rC+ Int+4 SInv} (You found it on level 12 of the Dungeon)
 38556 | D:12     | Reached skill level 9 in Shields
 38670 | D:12     | Noticed Joseph
 38679 | D:12     | Killed Joseph
 39022 | D:13     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 39056 | D:13     | Reached skill level 3 in Dodging
 39496 | D:13     | Reached XP level 18. HP: 124/124 MP: 18/18
 39785 | D:13     | Received a gift from Trog
 40331 | D:14     | Received a gift from Trog
 40493 | D:14     | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 40675 | D:14     | Reached skill level 4 in Dodging
 40952 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 41294 | D:15     | Paralysed by a wizard for 5 turns
 41353 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 41371 | D:15     | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 41630 | D:15     | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 41631 | D:15     | Noticed Roxanne
 41670 | D:15     | Received a gift from Trog
 41708 | D:15     | Killed Roxanne
 41708 | D:15     | Reached skill level 11 in Shields
 41938 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths
 42299 | Depths:1 | Reached skill level 6 in Dodging
 42881 | Depths:1 | Got a glittering ivory ring
 42883 | Depths:1 | Identified the ring "Nuagubuu" {-Cast rN+ Stlth+} (You found it on level 1 of the Depths)
 42981 | Depths:1 | Reached skill level 12 in Shields
 43002 | Depths:1 | Reached skill level 7 in Dodging
 43326 | Depths:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 43422 | Depths:1 | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss.
 43482 | Depths:1 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 119/130 MP: 18/18
 43499 | Depths:1 | Reached skill level 8 in Dodging
 43610 | Depths:1 | Found a gateway to Hell.
 43759 | Depths:1 | Reached skill level 13 in Shields
 43807 | Depths:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 44512 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 9 in Dodging
 44844 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 14 in Shields
 45450 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 45549 | Depths:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 46848 | Depths:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Shields
 47575 | Depths:1 | Voluntarily entered the Abyss.
 47720 | Abyss:1  | Reached XP level 20. HP: 136/136 MP: 19/19
 47790 | Abyss:1  | Noticed a bone dragon
 47817 | Abyss:1  | Killed a bone dragon
 48053 | Abyss:1  | Noticed a bone dragon
 48100 | Abyss:1  | Killed a bone dragon
 48100 | Abyss:1  | Reached skill level 11 in Dodging
 48722 | Abyss:1  | Reached skill level 16 in Shields
 48768 | Abyss:2  | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). [a neqoxec]
 48784 | Abyss:2  | Received a gift from Trog
 49455 | Abyss:2  | Paralysed by accursed screaming for 1 turns
 49787 | Abyss:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Abyss
 49858 | Abyss:5  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 49932 | Abyss:5  | Received a gift from Trog
 50119 | Abyss:5  | Reached skill level 12 in Dodging
 50152 | Abyss:5  | Noticed an ancient lich
 50271 | Abyss:5  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 50323 | Abyss:5  | Paralysed by accursed screaming for 1 turns
 50573 | Abyss:5  | Reached skill level 17 in Shields
 50684 | Abyss:5  | Gained mutation: You heal slowly when monsters are visible. [a neqoxec]
 50772 | Abyss:5  | Got an abyssal rune of Zot
 50937 | Abyss:5  | Reached XP level 21. HP: 140/140 MP: 18/18
 51062 | Depths:1 | Escaped the Abyss
 51300 | Depths:2 | Found Shedeun's Gadget Shoppe.
 51692 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 13 in Dodging
 51890 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 18 in Shields
 51970 | Depths:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 52406 | Depths:3 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium.
 52479 | Depths:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 52818 | Depths:3 | Noticed a golden dragon
 52833 | Depths:3 | Killed a golden dragon
 53084 | Depths:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 53206 | Depths:3 | Found a gateway to a ziggurat.
 54080 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 19 in Shields
 54208 | Depths:4 | Identified the Volume of the Oath and Ignition (You found it on level 4 of the Depths)
 54297 | Depths:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 54326 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 17 in Armour
 54326 | Depths:4 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 79/146 MP: 3/18
 55232 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 55651 | Swamp:1  | Noticed Snorg
 55665 | Swamp:1  | Killed Snorg
 55816 | Swamp:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 56160 | Swamp:3  | Noticed Uberwunderbarhen's ghost (mighty SpEn)
 56216 | Swamp:3  | Killed Uberwunderbarhen's ghost
 56920 | Swamp:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp
 56980 | Swamp:5  | Identified a +1 rod of clouds (12/12) (You found it on level 5 of the Swamp)
 56981 | Swamp:5  | Identified a -2 rod of ignition (13/13) (You found it on level 2 of the Swamp)
 56997 | Swamp:5  | Noticed Uberwunderbarhen's ghost (mighty SpEn)
 57023 | Swamp:5  | Killed Uberwunderbarhen's ghost
 57216 | Swamp:5  | Received a gift from Trog
 57357 | Swamp:5  | Reached skill level 18 in Armour
 57374 | Swamp:5  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 57600 | Swamp:5  | Reached skill level 20 in Shields
 57931 | Swamp:4  | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
 57941 | Swamp:4  | Noticed Miyamura's ghost (mighty DEFE)
 57996 | Swamp:4  | Killed Miyamura's ghost
 58381 | Swamp:4  | Got an ancient broad axe
 58382 | Swamp:4  | Identified the +7 broad axe "Tuphucro" {venom, +Inv rN+} (You found it on level 4 of the Swamp)
 58614 | Swamp:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 59502 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 60152 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 60424 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 23. HP: 152/152 MP: 18/18
 60552 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 19 in Armour
 60889 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 61505 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 21 in Shields
 61866 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 62718 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 62832 | Vaults:3 | Got a smoking chain mail
 62843 | Vaults:3 | Identified the +5 chain mail of the Dungeon {rPois} (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 62925 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 63057 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 63152 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 20 in Armour
 63301 | Vaults:3 | Got a faintly humming plate armour
 63305 | Vaults:3 | Identified the +7 plate armour of Lugonu's Anger {rF+ SInv Stlth--} (You took it off a vault warden on level 3 of the Vaults)
 63376 | Vaults:3 | Got an ancient chain mail
 63377 | Vaults:3 | Identified the cursed -3 chain mail of Wemen {rF++ Slay+2} (You found it on level 3 of the Vaults)
 63568 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 63797 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 22 in Shields
 64068 | Vaults:3 | Paralysed by a lich for 6 turns
 64097 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 24. HP: 157/157 MP: 18/18
 64143 | Vaults:3 | Got a pitted silver ring
 64145 | Vaults:3 | Identified the ring of Ininwake {Fire +Inv} (You took it off an ironheart preserver on level 3 of the Vaults)
 64508 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 64655 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 21 in Armour
 64662 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 64854 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 65036 | Vaults:4 | Cast into the Abyss (ogre mage)
 65057 | Vaults:4 | Escaped the Abyss
 65121 | Vaults:4 | Found Ojabb's Gadget Shop.
 65128 | Vaults:4 | Bought a wand of teleportation (3) for 357 gold pieces
 65173 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 65795 | Vaults:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Vaults
 66004 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 23 in Shields
 66197 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 66344 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 66424 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 22 in Armour
 66591 | Vaults:5 | Got a warped ruby amulet
 66592 | Vaults:5 | Identified the amulet "Esecahah" {Stasis +Inv rN+ Dex+3 SInv} (You took it off a tengu reaver on level 5 of the Vaults)
 66803 | Vaults:5 | Identified a +1 gold dragon armour (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)
 66890 | Vaults:5 | Reached XP level 25. HP: 162/162 MP: 19/19
 66916 | Vaults:5 | Noticed an ancient lich
 66944 | Vaults:5 | Cast into the Abyss (ancient lich)
 66944 | Abyss:1  | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
 66961 | Abyss:1  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 66973 | Vaults:5 | Escaped the Abyss
 66976 | Vaults:5 | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little easier to cast, but a little less powerful. [a cacodemon]
 66988 | Vaults:5 | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [a cacodemon]
 67395 | Vaults:5 | Got a silver rune of Zot
 67641 | Vaults:5 | Killed an ancient lich
 67641 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 24 in Shields
 67650 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 67798 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 23 in Armour
 67957 | Vaults:5 | Got a twitching silver ring
 67960 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 68617 | Vaults:5 | Identified a +5 rod of destruction (11/11) (You took it off a deep elf priest on level 5 of the Vaults)
 68633 | Vaults:5 | Identified the Almanac of Necromancy (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)
 69072 | D:8      | Identified the Papyrus of Context (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
 69203 | Lair:2   | Identified the ring "Yreneabb" {SustAb Str+3 Int+2} (You took it off an ironheart preserver on level 5 of the Vaults)
 69380 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 70045 | Elf:1    | Noticed Louise
 70087 | Elf:1    | Killed Louise
 70191 | Elf:2    | Noticed Agnes
 70209 | Elf:2    | Killed Agnes
 70217 | Elf:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 70384 | Elf:2    | Found Thazec's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 70393 | Elf:2    | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces
 70393 | Elf:2    | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 97 gold pieces
 70393 | Elf:2    | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 97 gold pieces
 70906 | Elf:3    | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls
 71387 | Elf:3    | Received a gift from Trog
 71730 | Elf:3    | Cast into the Abyss (deep elf sorcerer)
 72134 | Elf:3    | Escaped the Abyss
 72146 | Elf:3    | Reached XP level 26. HP: 168/168 MP: 19/19
 72279 | Elf:3    | Reached skill level 25 in Shields
 72282 | Elf:3    | Cast into the Abyss (deep elf demonologist)
 72282 | Abyss:1  | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 72319 | Abyss:1  | Noticed a bone dragon
 72374 | Abyss:1  | Killed a bone dragon
 72545 | Elf:3    | Escaped the Abyss
 72552 | Elf:3    | Reached skill level 24 in Armour
 72567 | Elf:3    | Received a gift from Trog
 72650 | Elf:3    | Identified a +4 rod of ignition (12/12) (You took it off a deep elf sorcerer on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 73002 | Elf:3    | Got a warped steel ring
 73054 | Elf:3    | Identified the Papyrus of the Frostbite (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 73770 | Elf:3    | Got a pitted ruby amulet
 73772 | Elf:3    | Identified the amulet "Fijurch" {+Rage +Fly SInv} (You took it off a deep elf annihilator on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 73776 | Elf:3    | Identified the ring "Siwnoadi" {Wiz +Fly rC+} (You took it off a deep elf death mage on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 74097 | D:7      | Bought a beef jerky for 16 gold pieces
 74097 | D:7      | Bought a bread ration for 55 gold pieces
 74097 | D:7      | Bought a meat ration for 55 gold pieces
 74097 | D:7      | Bought a beef jerky for 16 gold pieces
 74097 | D:7      | Bought a beef jerky for 16 gold pieces
 74097 | D:7      | Bought a meat ration for 55 gold pieces
 74097 | D:7      | Bought a meat ration for 55 gold pieces
 74097 | D:7      | Bought a meat ration for 55 gold pieces
 74097 | D:7      | Bought a bread ration for 55 gold pieces
 74097 | D:7      | Bought a meat ration for 55 gold pieces
 74097 | D:7      | Bought a bread ration for 55 gold pieces
 74097 | D:7      | Bought a beef jerky for 16 gold pieces
 74162 | Temple   | Fell from the grace of Trog
 74162 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of the Shining One
 74262 | Lair:2   | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
 74269 | Lair:2   | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste
 74274 | Lair:2   | Learned a level 4 spell: Control Teleport
 74786 | Depths:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Depths
 75329 | Depths:5 | Identified a +3 rod of striking (12/12) (You took it off a fire giant on level 5 of the Depths)
 75385 | Depths:5 | Acquired the Shining One's first power
 76732 | Crypt:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Crypt
 76790 | Crypt:1  | Reached skill level 18 in Fighting
 76851 | Crypt:1  | Noticed Margery
 76885 | Crypt:1  | Killed Margery
 76885 | Crypt:1  | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting
 76885 | Crypt:1  | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
 76928 | Crypt:1  | Noticed Donald
 76928 | Crypt:1  | Acquired the Shining One's second power
 76967 | Crypt:1  | Killed Donald
 77091 | Crypt:1  | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
 77285 | Crypt:1  | Reached skill level 2 in Invocations
 77502 | Crypt:1  | Identified Vocam's Handbook of Lucky Necromancy
 77521 | Crypt:1  | Reached skill level 3 in Invocations
 77949 | Crypt:1  | Reached skill level 4 in Invocations
 78150 | Crypt:1  | Acquired the Shining One's third power
 78204 | Crypt:2  | Reached XP level 27. HP: 175/175 MP: 27/27
 78248 | Crypt:2  | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
 78533 | Crypt:2  | Reached skill level 25 in Armour
 78661 | Crypt:2  | Acquired the Shining One's fourth power
 78825 | Crypt:2  | Reached skill level 6 in Invocations
 79022 | Crypt:3  | Entered Level 3 of the Crypt
 79022 | Crypt:3  | Found a staircase to the Tomb.
 79645 | Crypt:3  | Reached skill level 19 in Fighting
 79784 | Crypt:3  | Reached skill level 7 in Invocations
 79809 | Crypt:3  | Noticed an ancient lich
 79964 | Crypt:3  | Killed an ancient lich
 80862 | Hell     | Entered the Vestibule of Hell
 80862 | Hell     | Noticed Geryon
 80943 | Hell     | Killed Geryon
 80943 | Hell     | Reached skill level 8 in Invocations
 81381 | Temple   | Identified a +8 Blessed Scourge (a +6 demon whip of draining blessed by the Shining One)
 82239 | Hell     | Reached skill level 9 in Invocations
 82300 | Hell     | Found a gateway to the decaying netherworld of Tartarus.
 82724 | Hell     | Found a gateway to the Iron City of Dis.
 82965 | Hell     | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations
 82976 | Hell     | Found a gateway to the ashen valley of Gehenna.
 83109 | Hell     | Found a gateway to the freezing wastes of Cocytus.
 83189 | Coc:1    | Entered Level 1 of Cocytus
 83254 | Coc:1    | Reached skill level 20 in Fighting
 83433 | Coc:1    | Reached skill level 26 in Armour
 83913 | Coc:2    | Reached skill level 14 in Dodging
 84439 | Coc:7    | Entered Level 7 of Cocytus
 85079 | Coc:7    | Reached skill level 21 in Fighting
 85129 | Coc:7    | Identified the Papyrus of Earthen Changing
 85601 | Coc:7    | Cast into the Abyss (a Zot trap)
 85688 | Coc:7    | Escaped the Abyss
 85777 | Coc:7    | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
 86259 | Coc:7    | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. [mutagenic glow]
 86261 | Coc:7    | Noticed Antaeus
 86338 | Coc:7    | Killed Antaeus
 86338 | Coc:7    | Reached skill level 27 in Armour
 86473 | Coc:7    | Got an icy rune of Zot
 87133 | Lair:2   | Lost mutation: Your muscles are strong. (Str +2) [potion of cure mutation]
 87133 | Lair:2   | Lost mutation: Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body. [potion of cure mutation]
 87133 | Lair:2   | Lost mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). [potion of cure mutation]
 87133 | Lair:2   | Lost mutation: You are somewhat resistant to further mutation. [potion of cure mutation]
 87134 | Lair:2   | Lost mutation: Your spells are a little easier to cast, but a little less powerful. [potion of cure mutation]
 87134 | Lair:2   | Lost mutation: You heal slowly when monsters are visible. [potion of cure mutation]
 87134 | Lair:2   | Lost mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [potion of cure mutation]
 87532 | Geh:1    | Entered Level 1 of Gehenna
 87805 | Geh:1    | Reached skill level 22 in Fighting
 88203 | Geh:2    | Reached skill level 16 in Dodging
 88481 | Geh:3    | Cast into the Abyss (hell knight)
 88499 | Geh:3    | Escaped the Abyss
 88980 | Geh:6    | Gained mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating. [mutagenic glow]
 89056 | Geh:6    | Reached skill level 23 in Fighting
 89355 | Geh:7    | Entered Level 7 of Gehenna
 89506 | Geh:7    | Reached skill level 17 in Dodging
 91048 | Geh:7    | Noticed Asmodeus
 91064 | Geh:7    | Was forgiven by Trog
 91066 | Geh:7    | HP: 14/189 [hellion/burst of hellfire[Asmodeus] (20)]
 91516 | Geh:7    | Reached skill level 24 in Fighting
 91658 | Geh:7    | HP: 18/190 [the effects of Hell (26)]
 92436 | Geh:7    | Reached skill level 18 in Dodging
 92582 | Geh:7    | Killed Asmodeus
 92685 | Geh:7    | Got a twitching granite ring
 92693 | Geh:7    | Identified the Volume of Changing
 92746 | Geh:7    | Got an obsidian rune of Zot
 92747 | Geh:7    | Identified the ring of Smucaoja {AC+3 Str-4 Dex+2} (You found it on level 7 of Gehenna)
 92753 | Geh:7    | Learned a level 3 spell: Spectral Weapon
 93251 | Tar:1    | Entered Level 1 of Tartarus
 93301 | Tar:2    | Reached skill level 2 in Spellcasting
 93378 | Tar:2    | Reached skill level 2 in Charms
 93560 | Tar:3    | Reached skill level 3 in Spellcasting
 93625 | Tar:3    | Reached skill level 3 in Charms
 93883 | Tar:4    | Reached skill level 4 in Spellcasting
 93989 | Tar:4    | Reached skill level 4 in Charms
 94195 | Tar:6    | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 94461 | Tar:7    | Entered Level 7 of Tartarus
 94477 | Tar:7    | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 94741 | Tar:7    | Reached skill level 6 in Spellcasting
 94874 | Tar:7    | Reached skill level 6 in Charms
 95020 | Tar:7    | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting
 95069 | Tar:7    | Got a fine granite ring
 95070 | Tar:7    | Identified the ring of Thustugg {rF+ AC+2 Str+3} (You found it on level 7 of Tartarus)
 95123 | Tar:7    | Reached skill level 7 in Charms
 95534 | Tar:7    | Noticed Ereshkigal
 95551 | Tar:7    | Killed Ereshkigal
 95551 | Tar:7    | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting
 95551 | Tar:7    | Reached skill level 8 in Charms
 95674 | Tar:7    | Got a bone rune of Zot
 95681 | Tar:7    | Identified the Reference Book on Poisonous Self-Improvement
 95870 | Tar:7    | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting
 96061 | Tar:7    | Reached skill level 9 in Charms
 96079 | Tar:7    | Identified Juoluc's Guide on the Oath and Good Luck
 96081 | Tar:7    | Identified the Catalogue of Torrid Dark Rituals
 96095 | Tar:7    | Learned a level 3 spell: Passwall
 96722 | Lair:2   | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink
 97020 | Slime:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Pits of Slime
 97621 | Slime:6  | Entered Level 6 of the Pits of Slime
 97791 | Slime:6  | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic
 97831 | Slime:6  | Reached skill level 2 in Earth Magic
 97868 | Slime:6  | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 97868 | Slime:6  | Noticed the royal jelly
 97902 | Slime:6  | Killed the royal jelly
 97902 | Slime:6  | Reached skill level 5 in Earth Magic
 98263 | Slime:6  | Reached skill level 6 in Earth Magic
 98335 | Slime:6  | Got a vibrating diamond amulet
 98340 | Slime:6  | Identified the Volume of Icy Confrontation
 98391 | Slime:6  | Got a slimy rune of Zot
 99170 | Dis:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Iron City of Dis
 99218 | Dis:1    | Reached skill level 10 in Charms
100402 | Dis:5    | Reached skill level 25 in Fighting
100522 | Dis:5    | Reached skill level 11 in Charms
100617 | Dis:7    | Entered Level 7 of the Iron City of Dis
101174 | Dis:7    | Reached skill level 12 in Charms
101696 | Dis:7    | Noticed Dispater
101762 | Dis:7    | Killed Dispater
102008 | Dis:7    | Reached skill level 13 in Charms
102021 | Dis:7    | Got an iron rune of Zot
102023 | Dis:7    | Got a scintillating jade ring
102041 | Dis:7    | Identified the ring of Lies {-Tele +Fly Stlth+} (You found it on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)
102042 | Dis:7    | Identified the amulet of Qazlal's Hope {Clar Slay-3} (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)
102178 | Dis:7    | Noticed the Serpent of Hell
102193 | Dis:7    | Killed the Serpent of Hell
102193 | Dis:7    | Reached skill level 26 in Fighting
102515 | Dis:7    | Learned a level 3 spell: Abjuration
102671 | Dis:7    | Got a shimmering brass ring
102679 | Dis:7    | Identified the ring "Bloa" {+Fly rN+ MR++ Int+4} (You found it on level 7 of the Iron City of Dis)
102904 | Dis:7    | Reached skill level 14 in Charms
104333 | Depths:4 | Learned a level 5 spell: Silence
104402 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Charms
104438 | Depths:4 | Identified the Papyrus of Curses and the Escort (You found it on level 4 of the Depths)
104441 | Depths:4 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies
104603 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 27 in Fighting
105008 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 16 in Charms
105174 | Depths:5 | Found a gate to the Realm of Zot.
105630 | Pan      | Entered Pandemonium
105637 | Pan      | Found an exit through the horrors of the Abyss.
105782 | Pan      | Noticed Klidiy the pandemonium lord
105798 | Pan      | Killed Klidiy the pandemonium lord
106033 | Pan      | Reached skill level 17 in Charms
106438 | Pan      | Noticed Lyacrufuops the pandemonium lord
106456 | Pan      | Killed Lyacrufuops the pandemonium lord
107019 | Pan      | Found an exit through the horrors of the Abyss.
107085 | Pan      | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
107236 | Pan      | Reached skill level 2 in Summonings
107236 | Pan      | Reached skill level 11 in Invocations
107718 | Pan      | Reached skill level 3 in Summonings
107971 | Pan      | Noticed Heenak the pandemonium lord
107982 | Pan      | Killed Heenak the pandemonium lord
107992 | Pan      | Reached skill level 4 in Summonings
108106 | Pan      | Found an exit through the horrors of the Abyss.
108502 | Pan      | Reached skill level 12 in Invocations
108726 | Pan      | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings
108736 | Pan      | Found an exit through the horrors of the Abyss.
108789 | Pan      | Noticed Beplock the pandemonium lord
108808 | Pan      | Killed Beplock the pandemonium lord
108887 | Pan      | Reached skill level 6 in Summonings
109541 | Pan      | Reached skill level 13 in Invocations
109606 | Pan      | Noticed Dysmeuz the pandemonium lord
109620 | Pan      | Killed Dysmeuz the pandemonium lord
109620 | Pan      | Reached skill level 7 in Summonings
110824 | Pan      | Reached skill level 14 in Invocations
110831 | Pan      | HP: 15/199 [hellion/burst of hellfire (32)]
110831 | Pan      | Killed from afar by a hellion




[celem]

Your own analysis of what you did wrong is on the money here. You know what happened, I will say Hellion Island is not really a YASD for any character, that map is designed to kill players with prejudice. If you get a little unlucky and a couple of them decide that Hellfire is flavor of the month then you will eat a lot of damage even through full resists, you really need to pull back and heal earlier than you did.

Couple of things, you were hasting your allies right to the end, but were not self-hasted as far as I can see, remember to keep that up, you'll throw out the ally hastes faster apart from anything else. You were also lacking an rF pip, though that only plays so much part vs hellfire.

RMiss or DMiss would have been of considerable help. Since you could fire haste from under GDA you could have cast the weaker version without any xp spent, charms would have carried the air.

Lastly, scroll of fog is an excellent crutch consumable vs hellions. Their big threat moves are smite and hellfire, they wont throw either if they cant see you.

Seems like you got some invaluable endgame experience at anyrate, good run.

Edit: regarding your restock question. You can get lucky and refill on these critical consumables, there may be a few in shops in the dungeon/orc or in a bazaar or a few items in vaults here n there. However the real motherlode when it comes to this is the holy Pan floor. Another reason I hit Pan before the Hells, this place is strewn with heals, restores and cure muts if you can handle the angels/daevas on guard.

[nago]

Rf+ does nothing against hellfire, likewise rmls.

If you're outside hellions' Island, the pan Lord is dead and keep only 1 hellion at the edge of screen, you can always retreat and heal with 5, they won't be able to chase you . Being haste is nice but not strictly necessary in this case.

Btw I can't check right now but I'm pretty positive hellions can't smite - but only hurl smite - like hellfire so whatever

[Schussel]

thank you so much
Yes the haste thing is a bad thing .. Tolias told me ingame but i did not see it until i died ...

In the end even without haste i should have had it easily beaten ... the idiocy of not watching hp was quite strong ... the lava generated enough fog to hide .. in fact without it had been more evil ... good that this vault does not generate with a wall sourrounding the pool closer ...

i will run another char soon when i got time for it ... hopefully with the same results.

Btw it seemed that i had luck with the pan lords .. most of them were pushovers ...

Final questions ... i realized i neglected skills .. like invo/evo too much ...

Is it usefull to raise the weapon skill to max for endgame... as well as the dodging?
Dodging seemed to not give good results .. as 12 EV seemed neglectable ... (and with 74 ac and 30 SH most things are harmless ... even crystal spearing liches )

About the potions ... is it worth to farm abyss for it? or does this only lead to me getting swarmed by OODs/Tier-1s? Is there a better source to gather them?

Thanks in advance

[Schussel]

...

If you're outside hellions' Island, the pan Lord is dead ...

i never saw one nearby the island ... but killed one on the same map ... much much earlier ... do they wander even if vault generated?

[cerebovssquire]

He could fly and went away from the hellion island, yes. There are never 2 on one pan level and if hellion island spawns, the lord spawns there.

[celem]

I hadnt realised RMsl wasnt helping me vs hellfire, it can and will deflect bolts, though they still splash you, I had assumed I guess that I was avoiding some portion of damage.
Edit: Ahh yes, Hellions dont have Smite, but can Smite-target their hellfire, thats it.

I also realise in retrospect that you were glowing and probably only just off your own haste.

The randomPan Lords are really random, dont ever get overconfident because you splatted the last 5 that the RNG rolled up. Their spell lists can contain surprises and you can always get a nasty shock, one of my untouchable GrFi's was turned into a bat by such a 'popcorn Lord' and this made the entire encounter his closest call in Pan. Sometimes the Lord will wander yes, you can meet him roaming the level if he's awake. I've never seen one of the Uniques wandering, but havent hit Pan enough to say anything about that.

Invoke/Evoke. Depends much on your playstyle. By the time you are trawling Pan I'd be tempted to put xp in Evo before I shot for a 27 weapon-skill at anyrate, the elemental summons objects are very powerful with something round 15 Evoke. Invoke I rarely use just because of the gods I pick.

[Schussel]

Thanks again ..

another question soared up in my mind ... does raising throwing increase the likelyhood of better gifts by Trog?

So like having 20 throwing will more or less "enforce" javelin gifts? i found them very good at the final helion battle ... i killed alot of them with 2-3 chucks ... most with even only 2 *silvertipped though* ).

i realize a high throwing gives extra damage as well .. would it be worth?

[celem]

You need a minimum of 8 Throwing (or any ranged skill) to be eligible for ammo gifts from Trog.

Im not certain how it splits that and melee if you have both options. One would assume that your Throwing should be higher than your melee skill if you want mainly ammo. Thankfully Throwing is one of a few skills that will keep providing good return all the way to 27 (unlike a melee style) Trog will gift ammo for the launcher you are carrying, or thrown if emptyhanded. You might see some other odds and ends among the javelins though.

Javelins are great in general, The 'of penetration' are amazingly useful in jammed spots like Ziggs, or to deal with summoners behind a swarm. If looking to try this in a bigger way next time then take a look at the spell Portal Projectile which synergises well.

[cerebovssquire]

Silver damages chaotic enemies: shapeshifters, mutaters, ugly things, abominations, Tiamat, Killer Klowns, apocalypse crabs, chaos spawns, demonspawn enemies according to the learndb. You will do the same amount of damage vs hellions with normal javelins, use steel or penetrating ones if you can.
I'm pretty sure the 8 skill breakpoint for ammo gifts no longer exists, by the way.

[Schussel]

Well i can tell that Trog gifts ammo after 5 now .. and that in abundance .. in fact he never gave me a useful meleeweapon until i found my demon whip

...
but masses of javs ... i should have taken more with me .. had like 30 JoR in my stash

[celem]

Im doing a run in trunk just now with Okawaru (the wiki claims the same old 8 skill threshhold for him as Trog, likely they both changed in the same fashion). My MiGl is still getting the odd batch of tomhawks at 20 M&F, 2 Thrown, so it seems any skill is now enough to catch their attention.