CIP: MiFi - Extended game? [YASD]

[Denniz]

I think I can win a 3-runer fairly easily with this one. I have already won that way 3-4 times over the last couple years. I have had twice as many die on extended game runs.

Any realistic hope for a this melee character? If so, where would you go first?

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.16-a0-2460-g5684410 (tiles) character file.

Max the Conqueror (Minotaur Fighter)               Turns: 90228, Time: 07:38:42

HP:   289/289 (292) AC: 53    Str: 30    XL:     26   Next: 12%
MP:   28/28         EV: 19    Int: 12    God:    Okawaru [******]
Gold: 4117          SH: 17    Dex: 20    Spells: 0 memorised, 25 levels left

rFire  + + .     SeeInvis +     a - +7 war axe "Onoyhiat" {speed, Str+2 Dex+2}
rCold  + + .     Clarity  +     k - +12 crystal plate armour {rC+}
rNeg   + . .     SustAb   .     K - +2 shield of Resistance {rF+ rC+ MR+}
rPois  +         Gourm    +     M - +0 mask of the Dragon {MR+ Slay+3 SInv}
rElec  +         Spirit   .     i - +1 cloak "Fenich" {rElec SInv Stlth+}
rCorr  .         Warding  .     p - +2 pair of gloves {Str+3}
rMut   .         Stasis   .     G - +1 pair of boots of Conan {rPois}
MR     +++..                    w - amulet of the gourmand
Stlth  ..........               O - ring of protection from fire
                                h - ring "Cuew" {rN+ Int+5}

@: extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2, clarity, robust 1, strong 1
a: Heroism, Finesse, Renounce Religion
}: 3/15 runes: decaying, serpentine, silver


You are on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Okawaru.
Okawaru is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 10 branches of the dungeon, and seen 54 of its levels.
You have visited 1 bazaar.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Trove, Ossuary and Ice Cave.

You have collected 8241 gold pieces.
You have spent 4124 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - the +7 war axe "Onoyhiat" (weapon) {speed, Str+2 Dex+2}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   Attacks with this weapon are significantly faster.
   
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
 b - a +1 broad axe of flaming
 j - the +1 war axe "Xufups" {antimagic, +Blink rC++ Str+1 Dex+1 Stlth--}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 1 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   It disrupts the flow of magical energy around spellcasters and certain
   magical creatures (including the wielder).
   
   It affects your strength (+1).
   It affects your dexterity (+1).
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It lets you blink.
   It makes you much less stealthy.
Missiles
 B - 12 tomahawks of dispersal (quivered)
Armour
 i - the +1 cloak "Fenich" (worn) {rElec SInv Stlth+}
   (You found it in a labyrinth)   
   
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 k - a +12 crystal plate armour of cold resistance (worn)
 p - a +2 pair of gloves of strength (worn)
 G - the +1 pair of boots of Conan (worn) {rPois}
   (Okawaru gifted it to you on level 2 of the Snake Pit)   
   
   It protects you from poison.
 K - the +2 shield of Resistance (worn) {rF+ rC+ MR+}
   (You found it in a treasure trove)   
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 M - the +0 mask of the Dragon (worn) {MR+ Slay+3 SInv}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Depths)   
   
   It affects your accuracy and damage with ranged weapons and melee attacks
   (+3).
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It enhances your eyesight.
 Y - a +0 pair of boots of flying
Jewellery
 f - the ring of Shradwisch {+/*Tele rF+}
   (You took it off a deep elf master archer on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of teleportation]
   
   It causes random teleportation, and can be evoked to teleport at will.
   It protects you from fire.
 h - the ring "Cuew" (left hand) {rN+ Int+5}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 12 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of positive energy]
   
   It affects your intelligence (+5).
   It protects you from negative energy.
 w - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck)
 F - an uncursed amulet of warding
 L - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation
 O - a ring of protection from fire (right hand)
 P - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
Magical devices
 g - a wand of fire {zapped: 4}
 A - a wand of digging (11)
 D - a wand of cold {zapped: 2}
 H - a wand of lightning
Scrolls
 c - 2 scrolls of remove curse
 e - 3 scrolls of teleportation
 n - 2 scrolls of blinking
 I - a scroll of magic mapping
 V - 2 scrolls of identify
Potions
 o - 3 potions of curing
 t - a potion of cancellation
 z - 3 potions of heal wounds
 C - a potion of haste
Comestibles
 d - 6 bread rations
 q - 5 royal jellies


   Skills:
 O Level 27 Fighting
 O Level 27 Axes
 O Level 27 Armour
 * Level 17.9 Dodging
 + Level 13.0 Shields
 + Level 7.2 Invocations


You have 25 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:7            Lair (8/8) D:11
  Swamp (5/5) Lair:5        Snake (5/5) Lair:3        Slime (0/6) Lair:8
    Orc (4/4) D:12            Elf (3/3) Orc:4        Vaults (5/5) D:13
  Crypt (3/3) Vaults:2       Tomb (0/3) Crypt:3      Depths (5/5) D:15
    Zot (0/5) Depths:5   

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:4 }   D:12 *   Orc:3 [   Orc:4 [(*=   Elf:1 :(*[   Elf:2 [   Elf:3 *   Snake:1 %!((   Vaults:1 [   Vaults:2 [   Vaults:4 %   Vaults:5 ?%%!??!!
Depths:4 *

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Abyss: Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4
Pandemonium: Depths:2 Depths:3
Ziggurat: Depths:1

Annotations:
D:13 exclusion: oklob plant
Lair:7 exclusion: oklob plant
Elf:2 runed door


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee.
You have a pair of horns on your head.
You possess an exceptional clarity of mind.
You are robust (+10% HP).
Your muscles are strong. (Str +2)


Message History

You continue putting on the +2 shield of Resistance {rF+ rC+ MR+}. x4
You finish putting on the +2 shield of Resistance {rF+ rC+ MR+}.
Things that are here:
an ornate deck of cards; a legendary deck of cards
Items here: }}}}}}}
a sack of spiders; a lamp of fire; a disc of storms; a box of beasts; a stone of tremors; a lantern of shadows; a fan of gales
You drop the +14 obsidian axe {chop, +Fly Str+3 SInv Curse}.
You drop the +3 war axe of Internal Strife {chop, rC++ Str+3 Stlth+}.
You drop the +2 broad axe of Chasm {elec, rPois Str+3 Stlth+}.
You drop a +1 executioner's axe of freezing.
You drop the +5 broad axe "Xuom" {venom, rF+ Dex-2}.

Probably should be using the +14 obsidian axe despite the curse. (I need to check the weapon spreadsheet.) I have 2 of 5 Scrolls of Acquisition left. I have pretty good stuff now. Not sure if I should keep saving them or what I would go for if I did use them. Wands?

[notcluie]

i would go and find a weapon that was better than a war axe for extended first
you could use obsidian axe if you want to stay with oka, or go TSO (although you would need to get piety somewhere safer than hellpan and abyss scumming isnt fun) and bless another broad axe

anyway, do slime first either way (TSO or no TSO) then abyss, then pan if you have a ctele ring or i guess you could do tar or coc before pan, maybe try out tomb (although you should probably spoil yourself first, even after changes tomb isn't particularly variable but it's incredibly hard if you have no idea what you're doing) and zigs in between hellpan raiding

oh and have you not found a better ring than that rN+ Int one? it's pretty useless if you aren't casting spells...

[Denniz]

Not a lot of good jewelry other than the standards (fire, cold, prot fire, cold & magic, etc.):

the ring "Nawa" {SustAb Int+3}.
+2 ring of slaying.
+5 ring of evasion.

I was using the +5 evasion before I did vault 5 and crypt. I was using the +N ring and amulet of warding to minimize the draining.

Only thing of note for sale is: the ring of "Ququruet" {-Tele +Rage rElec rPois rF+} (452 gold) -Tele and I have everything else.

4 amulets and 4 ring still unknown. (cTele among them) Going for jewelry with acquisition is likely to just get me one of those, right?

I also have but don't think much of using but it doesn't hurt to verify:

amulet of Vitality {HP+15 Regen}.
+18 shield of the gong {rElec rN+ MR+ EV-5}.

There are a ton of axes to choose from. I have a couple broad axes to get blessed. If I was going TSO I should have done that before Crypt, right?

Kind of leaning towards 3-runer at this point. I haven't seen what they have done to Zot and the ascent recently.

[notcluie]

zot hasnt been changed recently...

anyway vitality is really really good and you should use it, gong is awful, you should have done it before crypt but if you need piety there's always abyss scumming, and +5 eva > rn ring

anyway, this character can definitely do extended except maybe coc thanks to shard shrikes
but it's tedious so just win imo

[cerebovssquire]

Amulet of vitality is much better than warding and gourmand. rCorr and rMut are situationally more useful, of course. If you are worried about sustenance loss from vitality's regeneration, it is quite small and only occurs when you aren't at full HP. Regeneration is particularily useful if you want to do extended (since you need to heal up quickly between hell effects, or losing lots of HP to torment).

+5 EV would have been more useful than rN, even in crypt and especially in V:5. Swap if you are fighting just shadow dragons or something, but EV is useful against bolts of draining and other, more dangerous ones. rN isn't a particularily important resistance.

Using shield of resistance over shield of the gong is the correct choice.

TSO before crypt is a good idea if you are doing extended. It shouldn't be hard to get piety quickly in other places (Abyss and Vestibule, if you aren't comfortable with doing pan/hells a low piety), so you haven't ruined your chances of doing extended.

[Denniz]

anyway vitality is really really good and you should use it, gong is awful, you should have done it before crypt but if you need piety there's always abyss scumming, and +5 eva > rn ring

Amulet of vitality is much better than warding and gourmand. rCorr and rMut are situationally more useful, of course. If you are worried about sustenance loss from vitality's regeneration, it is quite small and only occurs when you aren't at full HP. Regeneration is particularily useful if you want to do extended (since you need to heal up quickly between hell effects, or losing lots of HP to torment).

I guess I really should be using that amulet.

+5 EV would have been more useful than rN, even in crypt and especially in V:5. Swap if you are fighting just shadow dragons or something, but EV is useful against bolts of draining and other, more dangerous ones. rN isn't a particularily important resistance.

Interesting. I put the reduced amount of draining down to the Warding and rN++. I can't remember which I was using when I did Elf but I spent most of if with a drained status. Of course, I hadn't started training dodge yet either.

Extended it is, then. I don't expect to finish but let see how far I get.

[Denniz]

I fracked up. Got into trouble on slime 4. Retreated up the stairs to 3. Immediately surrounded by Okawaru's minions. Teleported to get away and landed in a narrow area. Was taking damage from walls and moving toward a clear spot to heal up when another group from Okawaru surrounded me. Overconfidence, then 1, 2, 3 and you are out.

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.16-a0-2460-g5684410 (tiles) character file.

598074 Max the Conqueror (level 26, -1/304 (307) HPs)
             Began as a Minotaur Fighter on Nov 20, 2014.
             Was a Follower of the Shining One.
             Slain by a titan (25 damage)
             ... created by the fury of Okawaru
             ... on level 3 of the Pits of Slime on Nov 24, 2014.
             The game lasted 08:09:27 (92901 turns).

Perhaps Slime wasn't the best place to work off Okawaru penance. [Moral: When you are down, Crawl/angry Gods will kick you. Hard. IN YOUR SOFT BITS. ]

Incidentally, that +14 obsidian axe {chop, +Fly Str+3 SInv Curse} was a bust. It would randomly mesmerize me until I killed the targeted creature. TSO didn't like it for some reason.

[mopl]

Also Slime isn't really extended... You shouldn't convert to TSO before it...