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Wednesday, 25th May 2011, 20:13 by XrBob

I feel like I've got a foothold on Vampire Stalker, here's where I'm at so far.

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.0 character file. Anelle the Miscreant (Vampire Stalker) Turns: 14512, Time: 00:41:35 HP 65/65 AC 4 Str 10 Exp: 9/4303 (951), need: 1561 MP 14/14 EV 14 Int 16 God: Ashenzari [**....] Gold 407 SH 0 Dex 15 Spells: 4 memorised, 4 levels left Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : + a - +3,+5 dagger (curse) Res.Cold : + . . Warding : . . b - +0 robe Life Prot.: + + . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Acid. : . . . Res.Corr. : . (no helmet) Res.Poison: + Clarity : . c - +1 cloak Res.Elec. : . Spirit.Shd : . (no gloves) Sust.Abil.: . . Stasis : . (no boots) Res.Mut. : . Ctrl.Telep.: . (no amulet) Res.Rott. : + Levitation : . (no ring) Saprovore : . . . Ctrl.Flight: . (no ring) @: regenerating slowly, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, very stealthy A: fangs 3, see invisible, unbreathing a: Bat Form, Bottle Blood, Renounce Religion You are on level 7 of the Dungeon. You worship Ashenzari. Ashenzari is most pleased with you. You are very thirsty. You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 8 of its levels. You have collected 387 gold pieces. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a cursed +3,+5 dagger (weapon) f - a -1,+1 orcish short sword k - a +0,+0 elven falchion q - a cursed +2,-1 elven short sword Armour b - a +0 robe (worn) c - a +1 cloak (worn) B - an uncursed dyed leather armour Magical devices y - a wand of lightning {zapped: 1} A - a wand of fire {zapped: 6} H - a wand of enslavement {zapped: 3} I - a wand of random effects {zapped: 2} Scrolls e - 2 scrolls of curse jewellery g - 2 scrolls of curse armour h - a scroll of curse weapon o - 4 scrolls of identify s - a scroll labeled TRIXE MUIMNOE w - a scroll of detect curse x - a scroll of blinking z - 2 scrolls of remove curse C - a scroll of enchant armour F - a scroll of teleportation Jewellery i - a cursed ring of teleportation r - an uncursed thin garnet amulet {tried} u - an uncursed triangular zirconium amulet {tried} E - an uncursed twisted ruby amulet {tried} Potions l - 3 potions of restore abilities m - a potion of resistance n - a potion of brilliance p - 3 potions of poison t - 2 potions of water v - 14 potions of confusion D - a potion of heal wounds G - a potion of blood J - an oily orange potion Books d - a book of Stalking Spells Type Level *Fulsome Distillation Transmutation/Necromancy 1 *Evaporate Fire/Transmutation 2 *Passwall Transmutation/Earth 3 Petrify Transmutation/Earth 4 Dig Transmutation/Earth 4 j - a book of Fire Spells Type Level *Fire Brand Charms/Fire 2 Bolt of Magma Conjuration/Fire/Earth 5 Ignite Poison Fire/Transmutation 5 Fireball Conjuration/Fire 6 Delayed Fireball Conjuration/Fire 7 Ring of Flames Charms/Fire 7 Dragon Form Fire/Transmutation 8 You have 951 experience left. Skills: + Level 6 Fighting - Level 4 Short Blades - Level 4 Dodging + Level 7 Stealth + Level 7 Stabbing - Level 2 Unarmed Combat + Level 2 Spellcasting + Level 1 Charms - Level 1 Necromancy + Level 5 Transmutations + Level 2 Fire Magic You have 4 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Success Level Hunger a - Fulsome Distillation Trmt/Necr N/A Great 1 Strawberry b - Evaporate Fire/Trmt ###....... Great 2 Choko c - Passwall Erth/Trmt ##........ Good 3 Honeycomb d - Fire Brand Fire/Chrm ##........ Very Good 2 Choko Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (7/27) Temple (1/1) D:4 Orc: D:6-11 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Sif Muna The Shining One Trog Vehumet Xom Yredelemnul Zin Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You heal slowly. You can bottle blood from corpses. You have razor-sharp teeth. You have supernaturally acute eyesight. You do not need to breathe. Right-click to toggle between mutations and properties depending on your hunger status. Message History You destroy the toadstool! Magic restored. You are feeling very thirsty. Your cursed +3,+5 dagger goes out. You see here a -1,+1 orcish spear. You start resting. HP restored. ¦¦ ¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦ ¦· ¦¦¦¦¦¦¦ ¦¦¦¦¦······¦ ¦· ······¦ ¦··········¦ ¦· ······¦ ¦··········¦ ¦· ······¦ ¦··········¦ ¦· ······¦¦¦··········¦¦¦¦· ························ ··········¦¦¦¦·········· ········¦¦¦··¦¦¦·)·····¦ ¦······¦¦···@··¦¦······¦ ¦······)···¦¦·········¦¦ ¦·¦······)¦¦¦¦·········· ¦·'·······¦¦¦¦·······)·[ ··¦········¦¦··········· ··¦····¦¦······¦¦·¦¦···· ··'·····¦¦¦··¦¦¦··'····· ·¦¦·······¦¦¦¦····¦····¦ ·¦¦····¦········¦¦¦····¦ ·················¦·····¦ ¦¦······¦········¦)····· ¦······¦··········¦···· There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures Pikel (D:6) An orc warrior (D:6) A necrophage (D:7) 2 ice beasts (D:6) 4 ogres A sky beast (D:7) 3 centaurs A killer bee zombie (D:7) 2 hounds 6 imps 3 orc priests Crazy Yiuf (D:6) 2 hound skeletons 3 scorpions 2 worker ants A worker ant zombie (D:5) 7 orc wizards Ijyb (D:2) Jessica (D:3) A jelly (D:6) 10 snakes 3 gnolls (D:6) A giant mite (D:4) A snake zombie (D:5) 2 snake skeletons 4 worms Terence (D:2) 3 giant eyeballs 3 oozes 38 orcs 7 giant cockroaches 13 goblins 18 hobgoblins 9 jackals 2 quokkas (D:5) 4 giant geckos A giant gecko skeleton (D:6) 9 giant newts A hobgoblin skeleton (D:5) 12 kobolds A kobold skeleton (D:6) 9 megabats 13 rats 4 toadstools 213 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A slave (D:6) A giant frog (D:6) An imp (D:6) A snake (D:5) A giant gecko (D:1) A jackal (D:6) 2 kobolds 2 rats 2 fungi (D:6) 10 toadstools 22 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 235 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Anelle, the Vampire Stalker, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 11/11 MP: 2/2 135 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 362 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 16/16 MP: 3/3 736 | D:1 | Learned a level 1 spell: Fulsome Distillation 739 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Evaporate 1438 | D:2 | Noticed a centaur 1450 | D:2 | Defeated a centaur 1450 | D:2 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 22/22 MP: 2/4 1450 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 27/27 MP: 3/6 1461 | D:2 | Noticed Jessica 1461 | D:2 | Noticed Terence 1479 | D:3 | Defeated Jessica 1870 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 28/34 MP: 5/7 2255 | D:3 | Reached skill level 4 in Stealth 2878 | D:2 | Defeated Terence 2986 | D:2 | Noticed Ijyb 3015 | D:2 | Defeated Ijyb 3015 | D:2 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 40/40 MP: 5/8 3843 | D:4 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 3861 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 3979 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled 4737 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Stabbing 4751 | D:4 | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy 4951 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 5175 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 10/45 MP: 7/9 5665 | D:4 | Learned a level 3 spell: Passwall 5668 | D:4 | Learned a level 2 spell: Fire Brand 5752 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 8445 | D:6 | Noticed Pikel 9823 | D:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 10373 | D:6 | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth 11080 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 11105 | D:6 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 52/57 MP: 10/13 11549 | D:6 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 11562 | D:6 | Defeated Crazy Yiuf 11753 | D:6 | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic 11761 | D:6 | Defeated Pikel 12112 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 30/64 MP: 11/14 13070 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Transmutations 13108 | D:7 | Acquired Ashenzari's first power 13592 | D:7 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 13596 | D:7 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 13598 | D:7 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 14184 | D:7 | Reached skill level 7 in Stabbing

I've got about 900 exp in the bank, wondering what to do. Should I start building up short/long swords at all? Stabbing works well, but I don't have a guaranteed way to stab, if they wake up before I get next to them then I have to just melee. Stalkers start with +2 dagger and I've been able to use all the enchant weapon scrolls on it so far. I was also kinda luck with my first book pickup, a book of fire. Most of it is too high level to be useful, but fire brand is a nice weapon buff when stabbing fails. Or maybe I could just victory dance most of exp with passwall/fire brand to hopefully put more into spellcasting, maybe build more transmutation and earth/fire/charms.

What's the progression I should be going for?

Edit: Also, some vampire questions. How do mutations work with them? Every time I stumble upon a mutation potion, I lose max hp as if through rot, and sometimes go dopey for a temporary int loss. I can regain the hp through heal potions or heal wound potions, but cure mutation doesn't do anything. Do vampires never mutate? It says they never need to breath. I figured it means they could walk through water, but that's not the case. Does not breathing affect anything?

Wednesday, 25th May 2011, 22:38 by Galefury

Vp can do various stuff. Fire wont be that useful to you though, it's mostly about conjurations which you are bad at. Maybe learn Conjure flame if you find it, it will stay useful for a very long time (enemies are really stupid, and clouds hurt low AC targets badly). Necromancy and transmutations are your strongest schools, and they are indeed quite nice ones. Both don't work well on undead though, and at bloodless you are essentially undead (more on that later).

Long Blades and Unarmed are indeed your best bet for melee. Unarmed is really really strong at high levels, and you get a free auxiliary attack from your teeth. Always use a short blade for stabbing though. Long blades have the advantage of brands and possibly useful artifact enchantments.

About the mutations: vampires go from alive to undead depending on satiation level. This changes HP regeneration rate (undead form doesn't regen), resists (undead form gets rc++, rneg+++, rtorm), potion use (undead form uses them at half effectiveness), stealth (undead form is stealthier), abilities (undead form can change into a bat), spell hunger, and hunger rate. And mutation resistance. Undead cant mutate, they rot instead. Living beings get mutated. So you will get mutated while alive, and rotted while undead, with a chance for either in between. Everything else is also a gradual change from alive to undead, with 3 states in between.

Wednesday, 25th May 2011, 23:36 by XrBob

Ugh, I got foolish in the lair. I was on level 3 fighting a blink frog, he was almost dead, and was I. I missed, he killed me. I might start playing wizards more, they've got blink to help soften the blow of my sometimes reckless tactics.

That's interesting about vampires though, you continuously walk the line between alive and undead. I'll have try to only drink unidentified potions when alive, though it seems like it takes a lot of work to stay at the alive level, lots of blood. I've found that I like to stay between thirsty and near bloodless, that way I at least get poison resistance.

...How strange would a vampire wizard or warper be? I'm sure they're not ideal, though I'd like to try some backgrounds with access to blink, and I'm having fun learning vampires for now.

Friday, 27th May 2011, 11:55 by RFHolloway

If you are into your Vampires and roleplay - look at the White Wolf RPG - they had a whole clan of Vampire wizards - the Tremere.

Sunday, 29th May 2011, 01:32 by XrBob

I'm not sure what the white wolf rpg is. Google turned up a white wolf.com, looks like they've made a bunch of games? Did they do the vampire bloodlines games?

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