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Dungeon Dilettante

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Joined: Thursday, 20th February 2014, 17:08

Post Thursday, 20th February 2014, 17:15

YASD - Advice Wanted

So I've been playing this game for years and still have yet to have my first win. My best character made it to Zot:5 once and died there (and I couldn't play for a while after that heartbreak). A few days ago I made yet another character and he became very promising. Young Steve Doublefart (GrBE) had two runes and was having very little trouble. Then I made a series of choices that are likely all wrong and, obviously, he passed unto the realm of the dead.

Firstly, after having cleared Lair, Orc, Swamp and Spider without too much issue, I decided doing a few levels of the Depths was the right choice (obviously i'm playing 0.14), but should I Have gone elsewhere first? I died pretty quickly in there.

Also, I had switch from a great mace to a flail and shield thinking it would be safer in the long run. I'm guessing this was a very stupid choice.

Next, should I have consider leaving Trog at that point? I've never really attempted to switch gods before so I don't know the suggested protocol on that .. specifically when and to whom?

Lastly, I had a bunch of enchant scrolls in my stash .. should I have used them on my FDA ? Or continue to hold out for something better like I was?

Thanks for any advice you can impart!

The morgue file for him is below:

  Code:
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-884-g88d061b (tiles) character file.

230268 Steve Doublefart the Shatterer (level 18, -12/120 HPs)
             Began as a Gargoyle Berserker on Feb 12, 2014.
             Was the Champion of Trog.
             Mangled by a very large slime creature (40 damage)
             ... on Level 1 of the Depths on Feb 19, 2014.
             The game lasted 03:56:26 (53081 turns).

Steve Doublefart the Shatterer (GrBe)              Turns: 53081, Time: 03:56:26

HP -12/120       AC 36     Str 27      XL: 18   Next: 89%
MP  32/32        EV  7     Int 10      God: Trog [******]
Gold 3796        SH 20     Dex  9      Spells:  0 memorised, 17 levels left

Res.Fire  : + + +   See Invis. : +   n - +4,+10 flail of Fatigue {pain, rF+ rC+ SInv}
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   Z - +0 fire dragon armour
Life Prot.: + + .   Conserve   : +   V - +0 dwarf shield {reflect}
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : +   z - +1 helmet
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   s - +1 cloak {rCorr, Cons}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   y - +0 pair of gauntlets
Res.Mut.  : +       Stasis     : .   t - +0 pair of boots {Stlth+}
Res.Rott. : +       Flight     : +   P - amulet of resist mutation
Saprovore : . . .                    r - +0,+8 ring of slaying
                                     E - ring of positive energy

@: flying, studying Evocations, somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments,
fairly stealthy
A: large and strong wings, fangs 1, talons 2, life protection 1, slow metabolism
1, unbreathing, petrification resistance, AC +13
a: Stop Flying, Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms,
Renounce Religion
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer


You were on level 1 of the Depths.
You worshipped Trog.
Trog was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and saw 39 of its levels.
You also visited: Labyrinth and Volcano.

You collected 3830 gold pieces.
You spent 34 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 b - a +5,+4 demon whip
 n - the +4,+10 flail of Fatigue (weapon) {pain, rF+ rC+ SInv}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Spider Nest)   
   
   In the hands of one skilled in necromantic magic, it inflicts extra damage
   on living creatures.
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It enhances your eyesight.
 v - the +4,+4 great mace of Stuinwue {crush, rElec rPois Int+1 SInv}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+1).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It protects you from poison.
   It enhances your eyesight.
Armour
 s - a +1 cloak of preservation (worn)
 t - a +0 pair of boots of stealth (worn)
 y - a +0 pair of gauntlets (worn)
 z - a +1 helmet (worn)
 V - a +0 dwarven shield of reflection (worn)
 Z - a +0 fire dragon armour (worn)
Magical devices
 a - a wand of magic darts (7)
 o - a wand of disintegration (13)
 x - a wand of teleportation (2)
 G - a wand of digging (21)
 H - a wand of flame (8)
 K - a wand of frost (11)
 S - a wand of confusion (16)
 Y - a wand of lightning (9)
Comestibles
 c - a bread ration
 d - 10 meat rations
 O - 3 pieces of ambrosia
Scrolls
 e - 14 scrolls of teleportation
 g - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 k - 13 scrolls of remove curse
 u - 4 scrolls of enchant armour
 w - 2 scrolls of blinking
 I - 6 scrolls of fear
 N - 2 scrolls of fog
 R - 5 scrolls of identify
Jewellery
 r - a +0,+8 ring of slaying (right hand)
 E - a ring of positive energy (left hand)
 P - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
 Q - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
Potions
 f - 11 potions of curing
 i - 3 potions of resistance
 m - 4 potions of might
 p - 4 potions of restore abilities
 A - 3 potions of invisibility
 C - 3 potions of speed
 D - a potion of porridge
 L - 3 potions of agility
Books
 M - a manual of Evocations


   Skills:
 + Level 17.5 Fighting
 + Level 21.8 Maces & Flails
 + Level 17.1 Armour
 - Level 2.5 Dodging
 - Level 6.8 Stealth
 * Level 3.1 Shields
 + Level 12.3 Evocations


You had 17 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (16/16)            Temple (0/1) D:5             Orc (4/4) D:11
    Elf (0/3) Orc:3          Lair (8/8) D:12          Swamp (5/5) Lair:5
 Spider (5/5) Lair:4        Slime (0/6) Lair:8       Depths (1/6) D:16
Vaults: Depths:1-3 

Altars:
Elyvilon
Kikubaaqudgha
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Vehumet
Zin

Shops:
D:6 [   D:8 (   D:9 [   D:10 (   D:11 (?   D:14 (   D:16 ?   Orc:3 %   Orc:4 [+*%

Annotations:
Lair:1 Gastronok


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
You are immune to poison.
You can fly continuously.
Your stone body is very resilient (AC +13).
Your wings are large and strong.
You have very sharp teeth.
You have razor-sharp toenails.
You resist negative energy.
You have a slow metabolism.
You can survive without breathing.
You are immune to petrification.


Message History

The very large slime creature is moderately wounded.
The very large slime creature barely misses you.
You bludgeon the very large slime creature!!
The very large slime creature is heavily wounded.
You bludgeon the very large slime creature!!
The very large slime creature is heavily wounded.
The very large slime creature hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You sock the very large slime creature! You bite the very large slime creature.
The very large slime creature is severely wounded.
You block the very large slime creature's attack.
Your deep troll goes berserk!
You feel somewhat more hungry.
The very large slime creature hits you but does no damage.
There is a gate leading back out of this place here.
Your deep troll bites the very large slime creature!
Your deep troll claws the very large slime creature!
Your deep troll claws the very large slime creature but does no damage.
The very large slime creature hits you!
You die...

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You could see a very large slime creature and a friendly deep troll (berserk).

Vanquished Creatures
  Saint Roka (Depths:1)
  Frances (Swamp:5)
  Donald (Swamp:2)
  5 ghost moths (Spider:5)
  Aizul (Swamp:3)
  4 emperor scorpions (Spider:5)
  Jorgrun (Swamp:3)
  A minotaur (Lab)
  An ettin (Orc:4)
  A yaktaur captain (D:13)
  2 fire dragons
  A great orb of eyes (D:16)
  Fannar (D:13)
  Harold (Orc:4)
  Josephine (D:10)
  17 hydras
  3 ogre magi
  8 alligators
  5 death yaks (Lair:2)
  3 centaur warriors
  6 hell knights (D:16)
  Urug (D:13)
  2 very ugly things (Swamp:3)
  Nergalle (Orc:3)
  The ghost of Dick In An Ass the Jinx, an experienced SpEn (D:9)
  3 spectral hydras (Swamp:5)
  2 wizards (D:16)
  Erolcha (Orc:3)
  A giant amoeba (Lair:8)
  3 orc knights
  4 swamp dragons
  2 necromancers (D:16)
  2 deep trolls (Orc:4)
  Joseph (Orc:3)
  A wolf spider zombie (D:13)
  8 hill giants
  7 red wasps
  7 statues
  2 orc sorcerers
  35 wolf spiders
  A griffon (D:16)
  8 elephants
  6 cyclopes
  A sixfirhy (Swamp:5)
  A moth of wrath (Spider:5)
  47 slime creatures
  A deep elf summoner (Orc:3)
  2 black mambas
  Maurice (D:9)
  An octopode (shapeshifter) (D:16)
  A spiny worm (Lair:8)
  15 spiny frogs
  A feature mimic (Lair:3)
  A queen ant (Lair:8)
  A formicid venom mage (Spider:5)
  18 demonic crawlers
  4 swamp worm zombies (Swamp:5)
  15 trolls
  4 hydra zombies (Swamp:5)
  5 komodo dragons
  16 orb spiders
  12 spriggans
  12 two-headed ogres
  A giant firefly (Lair:8)
  2 fire drakes
  23 jumping spiders
  Sonja (D:13)
  5 giant leeches
  4 red devils (D:10)
  4 baby alligators
  10 bog bodies
  2 ravens (D:9)
  9 blink frogs (Lair:8)
  3 boulder beetles
  A trapdoor spider zombie (D:13)
  An alligator zombie (Swamp:5)
  3 brown oozes (Lair:8)
  5 grizzly bears (Lair:8)
  18 tarantellas
  A shadow (D:13)
  13 trapdoor spiders
  48 redbacks
  A basilisk (Lair:8)
  10 ugly things
  An elephant slug (Lair:5)
  31 vampire mosquitoes
  A formicid drone (Spider:4)
  A hill giant zombie (D:10)
  50 yaks
  4 sharks (Spider:1)
  7 hippogriffs
  A wyvern (Lair:6)
  4 hungry ghosts
  The ghost of Ding Dong Doodle the Sneak, an average SpEn (D:3)
  2 hill giant skeletons
  A rock worm (Spider:5)
  Edmund (Orc:1)
  21 soldier ants
  17 wolves (Lair:8)
  2 yellow wasps
  22 orc warriors
  5 swamp drakes
  48 swamp worms
  An ice beast (D:10)
  2 manticores
  8 black bears
  10 porcupines
  3 swamp dragon zombies (Swamp:5)
  9 giant goldfish
  2 sky beasts
  8 phantoms
  15 centaurs
  2 boring beetles (Lair:8)
  11 crocodiles
  28 ogres
  Sigmund (D:2)
  4 wargs
  23 water moccasins
  5 formicids
  6 giant slugs
  20 giant frogs
  3 big kobolds
  A manticore zombie (D:14)
  7 agate snails
  A komodo dragon skeleton (D:12)
  A gnoll sergeant (D:9)
  A wyvern skeleton (D:10)
  24 insubstantial wisps
  A cyclops skeleton (D:12)
  15 jellyfish
  A hippogriff zombie (D:10)
  11 lava fish (Volcano)
  A troll zombie (D:10)
  4 fire bats (Volcano)
  31 killer bees
  8 wights
  5 goliath beetles
  12 electric eels
  A yak skeleton (D:8)
  11 crimson imps
  A lava snake (Volcano)
  A giant frog skeleton (D:10)
  A giant frog zombie (D:13)
  10 hounds
  8 big fish
  3 jellies
  A soldier ant zombie (D:10)
  8 iguanas
  Crazy Yiuf (D:4)
  31 orc priests
  3 scorpions
  2 centaur skeletons
  15 spiders
  29 worker ants
  A spectral swamp drake (Swamp:5)
  25 orc wizards
  A hippogriff simulacrum (D:13)
  8 sheep
  A shapeshifter simulacrum (D:12)
  A killer bee zombie (D:12)
  2 big kobold zombies
  Ijyb (D:6)
  A centaur simulacrum (D:10)
  A sky beast zombie (D:9)
  An ogre skeleton (D:8)
  A mummy (D:13)
  4 swamp drake zombies (Swamp:5)
  3 gnolls (D:9)
  23 adders
  61 green rats
  2 giant mites
  5 giant centipedes
  4 worms
  A goliath beetle zombie (D:11)
  A giant centipede zombie (D:13)
  3 giant eyeballs
  11 giant geckos
  3 oozes
  163 orcs
  4 ball pythons
  A bat zombie (D:5)
  4 giant cockroaches
  11 hobgoblins
  19 jackals
  33 kobolds
  12 quokkas
  4 training dummies (D:3)
  18 bats
  A giant gecko skeleton (D:4)
  5 giant newts
  3 giant spores
  A gnoll zombie (D:5)
  10 goblins
  2 orc skeletons
  An orc zombie (D:8)
  16 rats
  2 spectral orcs (Orc:3)
  38 ballistomycetes
  4 fungi
  A plant (Swamp:5)
1637 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A bone dragon (Swamp:5)
  4 wolf spiders
  A swamp worm zombie (Swamp:5)
  3 orb spiders (Spider:5)
  A bog body (Swamp:2)
  An alligator zombie (Swamp:5)
  14 slime creatures
  2 tarantellas
  2 redbacks (Spider:1)
  2 vampire mosquitoes (Swamp:2)
  2 swamp worms (Swamp:5)
  2 phantoms (Swamp:5)
  6 insubstantial wisps (Swamp:5)
  A spider (Spider:5)
42 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An orb spider (Spider:2)
  A jumping spider (Spider:2)
  A giant goldfish (Swamp:5)
  A water moccasin (Swamp:5)
  An orc (Orc:3)
  2 giant spores
  8 fungi
15 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1694 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Steve Doublefart, the Gargoyle Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 0/0
    67 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 10/19 MP: 1/1
   590 | D:1      | Acquired Trog's second power
   792 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 20/24 MP: 2/2
   885 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting
  1337 | D:2      | Noticed Sigmund
  1342 | D:2      | Killed Sigmund
  1342 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 29/29 MP: 3/3
  1551 | D:2      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  1552 | D:2      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  1853 | D:3      | Noticed Ding Dong Doodle's ghost (average SpEn)
  1882 | D:3      | Killed Ding Dong Doodle's ghost
  1882 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  1882 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 26/33 MP: 4/4
  1882 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 30/39 MP: 5/5
  1989 | D:3      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  2822 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  3332 | D:4      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  3343 | D:4      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  3350 | D:4      | Identified a +1 cloak of preservation (You took it off Crazy Yiuf on level 4 of the Dungeon)
  3512 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3575 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 37/44 MP: 6/6
  3818 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  3984 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4026 | D:5      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  4407 | D:6      | Noticed Ijyb
  4425 | D:6      | Killed Ijyb
  4488 | D:6      | Acquired Trog's third power
  4489 | D:6      | Found Brouxtiz's Antique Armour Boutique.
  4498 | D:6      | Bought a pair of embroidered boots for 34 gold pieces
  4584 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 30/49 MP: 7/7
  4920 | D:6      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  5902 | D:7      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  5966 | D:7      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  6109 | D:7      | Noticed a wizard statue
  6169 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 55/55 MP: 8/8
  6684 | D:7      | Killed a wizard statue
  6684 | D:7      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  7071 | D:8      | Found Gauwaroa's Weapon Emporium.
  7395 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  7523 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  7668 | D:8      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
  7931 | D:9      | Noticed Maurice
  8058 | D:9      | Noticed Dick In An Ass' ghost (experienced SpEn)
  8083 | D:9      | Killed Dick In An Ass' ghost
  8083 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 55/62 MP: 10/10
  8245 | D:9      | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
  8462 | D:9      | Noticed a spriggan baker
  8480 | D:9      | Killed a spriggan baker
  8513 | D:9      | Found Ladileile's Antique Armour Emporium.
  8687 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  8787 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
  9148 | D:9      | Killed Maurice
  9148 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
  9266 | D:10     | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
  9266 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 34/68 MP: 11/11
  9494 | D:10     | Found Hikhlostru's Weapon Shoppe.
  9666 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
  9924 | D:10     | Received a gift from Trog
 10178 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 10186 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 10532 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 10541 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 10541 | D:10     | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
 10677 | D:10     | Noticed Josephine
 10719 | D:10     | Killed Josephine
 10909 | D:10     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 10919 | D:10     | Killed a centaur warrior
 11352 | D:11     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 71/74 MP: 13/13
 11371 | D:11     | Found Taim's Weapon Emporium.
 11372 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 11562 | D:11     | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 11568 | D:11     | Found Skynenip's Magic Scroll Boutique.
 12084 | D:12     | Received a gift from Trog
 12104 | D:12     | Got a warped bow {god gift}
 12105 | D:12     | Identified the +9,+10 bow of Fufoef {frost, rF+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 12 of the Dungeon)
 12105 | D:12     | Identified the +9,+10 bow of Fufoef {frost, rF+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 12 of the Dungeon)
 12266 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 12541 | D:12     | Reached skill level 14 in Maces & Flails
 12944 | D:13     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
 13092 | D:13     | Noticed Sonja
 13113 | D:13     | Killed Sonja
 13295 | D:13     | Noticed Fannar
 13309 | D:13     | Killed Fannar
 13332 | D:13     | Noticed Urug
 13340 | D:13     | Killed Urug
 13864 | D:13     | Got a shimmering blowgun
 13865 | D:13     | Identified the cursed +1 blowgun of Smezumuv {evade, Str-1 Curse} (You found it on level 13 of the Dungeon)
 13865 | D:13     | Identified the cursed +1 blowgun of Smezumuv {evade, Str-1 Curse} (You found it on level 13 of the Dungeon)
 14211 | D:13     | Noticed a yaktaur captain
 14228 | D:13     | Killed a yaktaur captain
 14303 | D:13     | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails
 14318 | D:13     | Reached XP level 13. HP: 61/81 MP: 14/14
 14484 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 14573 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
 14644 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Trog
 14645 | Lair:1   | Got a crystal executioner's axe {god gift}
 15103 | Lair:1   | Noticed Gastronok
 15275 | Lair:2   | Identified the +4,+7 executioner's axe "Trosm" {chop, *Tele rC+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
 15275 | Lair:2   | Identified the +4,+7 executioner's axe "Trosm" {chop, *Tele rC+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
 15396 | Lair:2   | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
 16582 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Trog
 16597 | Lair:3   | Got a transparent sabre
 16598 | Lair:3   | Identified the +11,+3 sabre of the Shark {elec, +Blink MR++ SInv} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 16598 | Lair:3   | Identified the +11,+3 sabre of the Shark {elec, +Blink MR++ SInv} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 17525 | Lair:4   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 17685 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 16 in Maces & Flails
 18241 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Trog
 18506 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 19040 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
 19115 | Lair:6   | Got an encrusted blowgun
 19116 | Lair:6   | Identified the +9 blowgun of the Assorted Hells {speed, Dex+4} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 19116 | Lair:6   | Identified the +9 blowgun of the Assorted Hells {speed, Dex+4} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 19282 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Trog
 19298 | Lair:6   | Got a warped robe
 19313 | Lair:6   | Identified the cursed -2 robe of Hedging {rElec rC+ Curse} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 19591 | Lair:6   | Gained mutation: Your wings are large and strong. [gargoyle growth]
 19591 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 84/88 MP: 15/15
 20048 | Lair:7   | Found a dark tunnel.
 20056 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 20375 | Volcano  | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
 21321 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 21336 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 21573 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 17 in Maces & Flails
 21751 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 22373 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 22581 | Lair:8   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 23402 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 23424 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 23427 | Orc:1    | Reached XP level 15. HP: 71/95 MP: 18/18
 23561 | Orc:1    | Noticed Edmund
 23573 | Orc:1    | Killed Edmund
 24099 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 24981 | Orc:1    | Reached skill level 18 in Maces & Flails
 25299 | Orc:3    | Received a gift from Trog
 25318 | Orc:3    | Got a blackened great mace {god gift}
 25319 | Orc:3    | Identified the +4,+4 great mace of Stuinwue {crush, rElec rPois Int+1 SInv} (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Orcish Mines)
 25319 | Orc:3    | Identified the +4,+4 great mace of Stuinwue {crush, rElec rPois Int+1 SInv} (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Orcish Mines)
 25407 | Orc:3    | Noticed Nergalle
 25421 | Orc:3    | Killed Nergalle
 25421 | Orc:3    | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 25486 | Orc:3    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 25487 | Orc:3    | Found Coic's Food Emporium.
 25488 | Orc:3    | Noticed Joseph
 25498 | Orc:3    | Killed Joseph
 25582 | Orc:3    | Noticed Erolcha
 25590 | Orc:3    | Killed Erolcha
 25884 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 25893 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 26114 | Orc:4    | Found Shreca's Antique Armour Boutique.
 26270 | Orc:4    | Found Freuneg's Assorted Antiques.
 26350 | Orc:4    | HP: 4/96 [orc priest/divine providence (14)]
 26353 | Orc:4    | Noticed Harold
 26403 | Orc:4    | Killed Harold
 27003 | Orc:4    | Found Kikub's Book Shop.
 27008 | Orc:4    | Found Frino Heiss' Food Emporium.
 27436 | D:14     | Found Shuokk's Weapon Boutique.
 27879 | D:14     | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 27954 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 27997 | D:15     | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
 28062 | D:15     | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 28078 | Lab      | Entered a labyrinth
 29382 | D:15     | Received a gift from Trog
 29466 | D:15     | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 30361 | D:16     | Entered Level 16 of the Dungeon
 30395 | D:16     | Got a pair of faintly humming gloves
 30399 | D:16     | Identified the +1 pair of gloves of the Five Ships {Int-3} (You found it on level 16 of the Dungeon)
 30598 | D:16     | Paralysed by a wizard for 6 turns
 30718 | D:16     | Found Thirch's Magic Scroll Boutique.
 30888 | D:16     | Found a gate to the Depths.
 31363 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 31373 | Spider:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 90/103 MP: 24/24
 31435 | Spider:1 | Reached skill level 19 in Maces & Flails
 31444 | Spider:1 | HP: 4/104 [disintegration (38)]
 31456 | Spider:1 | HP: 1/104 [disintegration (33)]
 31907 | Spider:1 | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 31953 | Spider:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 33606 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 35611 | Swamp:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 36663 | Swamp:2  | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 38086 | Swamp:2  | Noticed Donald
 38993 | Swamp:2  | Killed Donald
 39502 | Swamp:3  | Noticed Aizul
 40045 | Swamp:3  | Killed Aizul
 40390 | Swamp:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 40543 | Swamp:3  | Noticed Jorgrun
 40553 | Swamp:3  | Killed Jorgrun
 40599 | Swamp:3  | Paralysed by the power of Zot for 5 turns
 41200 | Swamp:4  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 111/111 MP: 28/28
 41686 | Swamp:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 42378 | Swamp:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp
 42390 | Swamp:5  | Noticed Frances
 42418 | Swamp:5  | Killed Frances
 42794 | Swamp:5  | Reached skill level 20 in Maces & Flails
 43293 | Swamp:5  | Received a gift from Trog
 43349 | Swamp:5  | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
 43921 | Swamp:5  | Noticed a bone dragon
 43945 | Swamp:5  | Killed a bone dragon
 44172 | Swamp:5  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 46247 | Spider:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 46888 | Spider:4 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 116/119 MP: 31/31
 47252 | Spider:4 | Got a fine flail
 47253 | Spider:4 | Identified the +4,+10 flail of Fatigue {pain, rF+ rC+ SInv} (You found it on level 4 of the Spider Nest)
 47253 | Spider:4 | Identified the +4,+10 flail of Fatigue {pain, rF+ rC+ SInv} (You found it on level 4 of the Spider Nest)
 47368 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest
 47549 | Spider:5 | Reached skill level 21 in Maces & Flails
 47561 | Spider:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 50585 | Spider:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 51358 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
 51889 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths
 51894 | Depths:1 | Noticed Saint Roka
 52023 | D:16     | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 52720 | Depths:1 | Killed Saint Roka
 53081 | Depths:1 | Mangled by a very large slime creature


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Mace              |   105 |   175 |   303 |       |       |       ||   583
       Morningstar       |       |       |   214 |   968 |   608 |       ||  1790
       Great mace        |       |       |       |       |  1218 |   892 ||  2110
       Unarmed           |       |       |       |       |       |  1149 ||  1149
       Flail             |       |       |       |       |       |   520 ||   520
Invok: Berserk           |     1 |       |       |     3 |     2 |    17 ||    23
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |       |       |       |    11 ||    11
 Abil: Fly               |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     6 |     2 |     5 |     4 ||    17
  Use: Scroll            |       |    12 |       |    13 |    20 |    15 ||    60
       Potion            |       |       |       |       |     3 |     2 ||     5
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |       |     1 |       |     9 |     1 ||    11
       Invisible         |       |       |       |       |     4 |       ||     4
       Distracted        |       |       |       |       |     2 |     1 ||     3
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Post Thursday, 20th February 2014, 17:39

Re: YASD - Advice Wanted

You should definitely use [code ] tags for your dump, it will be more readable...

It is a good idea to use scrolls on your FDA, don't wait for something better.
It was really too soon to consider leaving Trog, if you are going for 3 runes, he is be OK for the entire game.
Indeed it's really not optimal to use a flail + shield, take the hardest 2H weapon you'll find (a dire flail or great mace is OK)
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Post Thursday, 20th February 2014, 17:48

Re: YASD - Advice Wanted

Don't fight very large slime creatures (or bigger). When you see one slime creature, expect there to be more outside your LOS. They can't shout, so let that one creature come to you and kill it. Rinse and repeat until all slimes are dead. If a very large or bigger one approaches, go behind a corner. This will make it unmerge.
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Post Thursday, 20th February 2014, 18:58

Re: YASD - Advice Wanted

Wasn't sure if Quote or Spoiler was correct, so thanks and I updated the post.

Next time, I'll know to keep my 2H instead of a 1H and a shield. After I died, I kinda knew that was probably part of my reason for dieing. And same for the FDA enchanting. I rarely get far enough to even need to use my stockpile like that, so I just didn't think of it until after.

As for Trog, glad to hear for a 3-Rune win, I don't need to switch from him.

The whole thing with those slime creatures ... I should have known better. I killed a lot of them in swamp and was much more careful (in fact, 47 according to my dump).

Well, better luck next time ... I've already started anew. Thanks for the help!

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Post Thursday, 20th February 2014, 19:20

Re: YASD - Advice Wanted

As I see the biggest error was not watching your HP. That last hit by the slime creature hit you when you were down to 28 HPs already.

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230268 Steve Doublefart the Shatterer (level 18, -12/120 HPs)
              Mangled by a very large slime creature (40 damage)


Continuing the fight with 28 HP is a huge error. You even had 2 blink scrolls in your inventory, you could have simply blinked away and survived easily.
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Post Friday, 21st February 2014, 12:22

Re: YASD - Advice Wanted

WolfgangIronjaw wrote:As for Trog, glad to hear for a 3-Rune win, I don't need to switch from him.

Just to make it clear: You don't need to switch from Trog even if you go for 15 runes.
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