YAVP: HEIE of Sif Muna with 4 runes

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-958-g08bf1ed (tiles) character file.

Ismer the Frost Mage (High Elf Ice Elementalist)    Turns: 7291, Time: 00:44:59

HP  51/51        AC  5     Str  8      XL: 9   Next: 53%
MP  31/31        EV 14     Int 22      God: Sif Muna [***...]
Gold 358         SH  0     Dex 16      Spells:  5 memorised,  2 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : .   k - +2,+4 dwarf short sword
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   a - +0 elf robe
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   (no shield)
Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : .   u - +0 golden helmet
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   t - +0 cloak
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   (no gloves)
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   q - +0 pair of boots
Res.Rott. : .       Flight     : .   (no amulet)
Saprovore : . . .                    g - ring of wizardry
                                     f - ring of magical power

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy
A: no striking features
a: Channel Energy, Forget Spell, Renounce Religion


You are on level 8 of the Dungeon.
You worship Sif Muna.
Sif Muna is most pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 9 of its levels.

You have collected 358 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 k - a +2,+4 dwarven short sword (weapon)
 v - a +0 blowgun
 y - an uncursed orcish flail of holy wrath
Missiles
 w - 8 poisoned needles
Armour
 a - a +0 elven robe (worn)
 q - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
 t - a +0 cloak (worn)
 u - a +0 golden helmet (worn)
Magical devices
 p - a forked bronze wand {zapped: 1} {tried by monster}
 F - a wand of lightning {zapped: 1}
 H - a wand of slowing {zapped: 3}
 I - a wand of flame {zapped: 10}
 J - a wand of flame {zapped: 1}
Comestibles
 c - 5 bread rations
 j - 2 meat rations
 E - 15 cheeses
 G - a sausage
Scrolls
 h - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 i - 5 scrolls of teleportation
 l - a scroll of recharging
 n - a scroll of magic mapping
 x - 2 scrolls of amnesia
 z - a scroll labeled HESEGU RUKAR
 B - a scroll labeled BLAOSHEOMY
 C - a scroll of fog
 K - a scroll labeled LIARAF SHRULOHE
Jewellery
 f - a ring of magical power (left hand)
 g - a ring of wizardry (right hand)
Potions
 d - a fizzy black potion
 e - a potion of speed
 m - 7 potions of curing
 o - 3 potions of heal wounds
 r - 2 potions of magic
 s - a potion of brilliance
 A - a potion of might
 L - an inky potion
Books
 b - a book of Frost   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Freeze                            Ice                          1
   *Throw Frost                       Conjuration/Ice              2
   *Ozocubu's Armour                  Charms/Ice                   3
   *Throw Icicle                      Conjuration/Ice              4
   *Summon Ice Beast                  Ice/Summoning                4
   Condensation Shield                Ice                          4


   Skills:
 * Level 3.6 Dodging
 - Level 5.7 Stealth
 - Level 4.2 Spellcasting
 + Level 6.6 Conjurations
 - Level 3.0 Charms
 - Level 10.0 Ice Magic


You have 2 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Freeze                Ice            ####         1%          1    None
b - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       ####......   1%          3    ###....
c - Throw Frost           Conj/Ice       #####.       1%          2    #......
d - Throw Icicle          Conj/Ice       #####...     1%          4    ####...
e - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       ####......   5%          4    ####...


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (8/16)             Temple (1/1) D:5         
   Orc: D:6-11        Lair: D:8-13     

Decided to give Sif Muna a try when I saw her altar. Wanted to feel what it's like to have a non-malfunctioning crystal ball, but obviously I need to survive the early-mid game first.

How should I manage Sif Muna piety? With Vehument I just killed everything and piety went up, but for Sif Muna you gotta have at least one spellcasting school trained to gain piety. So do I just open one magic skill and let piety build? If I train multiple magic skills do I get my piety faster?

Also wondering if Ice+Air is good, considering HE aptitudes. Never tried offensive air magic spells, just occasional swiftness and repel missiles.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-958-g08bf1ed (tiles) character file.

Ismer the Destroyer (High Elf Ice Elementalist)    Turns: 52208, Time: 06:05:28

HP 123/123       AC  8     Str  9      XL: 19   Next:  9%
MP  42/49        EV 26     Int 31      God: Sif Muna [******]
Gold 1888        SH 13     Dex 20      Spells: 14 memorised,  1 level left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : +   F - staff of conjuration
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   u - +0 robe of Prudence {Dex+2 Int+3}
Life Prot.: + . .   Conserve   : .   f - +2 buckler of the Lost Ghosts {rPois rN+ SInv}
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : .   V - +2 horned helmet {Int+3}
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : +   t - +0 cloak
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   i - +0 pair of dwarf gloves
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   q - +0 pair of boots
Res.Rott. : .       Flight     : .   J - amulet of clarity
Saprovore : . . .                    I - ring of magical power
                                     w - ring of see invisible

@: repel missiles (expiring), quick, quite resistant to hostile enchantments,
fairly stealthy
A: mutation resistance 1
a: Channel Energy, Forget Spell, Renounce Religion
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer


You are on level 2 of the Depths.
You worship Sif Muna.
Sif Muna is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 41 of its levels.
You have visited 1 bazaar.

You have collected 3794 gold pieces.
You have spent 1906 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 n - a +4,+1 dagger of freezing
 v - a +0 blowgun
 y - a +0,+1 orcish flail of holy wrath
Missiles
 D - a curare-tipped needle
Armour
 f - the +2 buckler of the Lost Ghosts (worn) {rPois rN+ SInv}
   (You acquired it on level 2 of the Swamp)   
   
   It protects you from poison.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It enhances your eyesight.
 i - a +0 pair of dwarven gloves (worn)
 q - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
 t - a +0 cloak (worn)
 u - the +0 robe of Prudence (worn) {Dex+2 Int+3}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Swamp)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
 V - a +2 horned helmet of intelligence (worn)
Magical devices
 b - a wand of disintegration (11)
 g - a wand of cold {zapped: 7}
 p - a wand of paralysis (2)
 U - a wand of digging {zapped: 2}
 W - a wand of heal wounds (9)
Comestibles
 a - a chunk of yaktaur flesh
 c - 3 bread rations
Scrolls
 j - 2 scrolls of fear
 x - 2 scrolls of identify
 C - 3 scrolls of fog
 H - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 T - 2 scrolls of teleportation
Jewellery
 w - a ring of see invisible (left hand)
 z - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 I - a ring of magical power (right hand)
 J - an amulet of clarity (around neck)
 N - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
Potions
 d - 2 potions of heal wounds
 e - a potion of speed
 m - 5 potions of curing
 r - a potion of magic
 s - a potion of brilliance
 L - a potion of invisibility
Books
 h - a book of Air   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Shock                              Conjuration/Air              1
   *Swiftness                         Charms/Air                   2
   *Repel Missiles                    Charms/Air                   2
   Flight                             Charms/Air                   3
   *Static Discharge                  Conjuration/Air              3
   *Lightning Bolt                    Conjuration/Air              5
Magical staves
 F - an uncursed staff of conjuration (weapon)


   Skills:
 - Level 10.6 Fighting
 - Level 5.4 Short Blades
 - Level 3.1 Armour
 - Level 15.1 Dodging
 - Level 5.7 Stealth
 - Level 2.8 Shields
 - Level 14.6 Spellcasting
 - Level 16.0 Conjurations
 - Level 3.0 Charms
 - Level 15.5 Ice Magic
 - Level 12.6 Air Magic
 - Level 5.4 Poison Magic
 * Level 10.4 Invocations


You have one spell level left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Freeze                Ice            ####         0%          1    None
b - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       ######....   1%          3    None
c - Magic Dart            Conj           ####         0%          1    None
d - Throw Icicle          Conj/Ice       ########     1%          4    None
e - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       ######....   1%          4    None
f - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       ######....   1%          2    None
g - Static Discharge      Conj/Air       ########     1%          3    None
h - Ensorcelled Hibernat  Hex/Ice        ######       1%          2    None
i - Iskenderun's Battles  Conj/Chrm      #######.     1%          4    None
j - Poisonous Cloud       Conj/Pois/Air  #######...   2%          6    ###....
k - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ####......   3%          3    None
l - Poison Arrow          Conj/Pois      #######...   4%          6    ###....
m - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       ######....   1%          2    None
n - Lightning Bolt        Conj/Air       ########..   1%          5    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (16/16)            Temple (1/1) D:5             Orc (4/4) D:9
    Elf (0/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:10          Swamp (5/5) Lair:5
 Spider (5/5) Lair:5        Slime (0/6) Lair:6       Depths (2/6) D:16
Vaults: Depths:1-3 

Got 2 runes and trying Depths now. Just as I feared, the Depths feel unfairly hard. Going down Depths 2 I was greeted with that disgusting 3 stairs and oklob plants put altogether vault. Glad there was an escape hatch I could use. Even still, I feel character at this level shouldn't have to deal with deep trolls and stone giants.

Decided to go Ice+air after all. I think having OOD would help really much against cold and air resistant enemies, but can't decide if I can forget any spells to make some room for that. Perhaps forget static discharge and summon ice beasts?

Also, should I train more fighting/evasion now? Training armor doesn't seem that effective with robe In fact, perhaps it's time to switch armor?

[dck]

I would indeed get a troll/mottled armour and enchant those aux slots if ?ea is at all available because even with ozo's a +0 robe in the Depths and 123 hps is just asking for a lot of pain.
I would also look around for a good weapon and learn to swing it as it'll certainly help a lot as well and get more fighting, but regarding OOD I'm pretty sure things like mdart, static and freeze can go now. Ice beasts can probably still hold up and be useful if you're supporting them in melee against depths guys, doubly so if you can haste them, but you don't seem to have haste around and certainly your melee capabilities are very deficient.

[BlackSheep]

A recent change moved Vaults back into the Dungeon and put a rune lock on it, so hopefully in the future you'll have more to do before hitting Depths.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-958-g08bf1ed (tiles) character file.

Ismer the Destroyer (High Elf Ice Elementalist)    Turns: 81857, Time: 10:06:02

HP 169/169       AC 22     Str 16      XL: 25   Next:  1%
MP  47/47        EV 26     Int 30      God: Sif Muna [******]
Gold 4898        SH 14     Dex 22      Spells: 15 memorised,  8 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : +   g - +6 demon blade (slice)
Res.Cold  : + . .   Warding    : .   l - +4 troll leather armour
Life Prot.: + . .   Conserve   : +   f - +2 buckler of the Lost Ghosts {rPois rN+ SInv}
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : +   V - +2 horned helmet {Int+3}
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   p - +1 elf cloak {rCorr, Cons}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   K - +0 pair of elf gloves {Str+3}
Res.Mut.  : +       Stasis     : .   q - +0 pair of boots
Res.Rott. : .       Flight     : .   o - amulet of resist mutation
Saprovore : . . .                    w - +6 ring of protection
                                     z - ring "Canakuvic" {rC+ Str+3 Dex+3}

@: very resistant to hostile enchantments, very stealthy
A: mutation resistance 1
a: Channel Energy, Forget Spell, Renounce Religion
}: 4/15 runes: decaying, slimy, silver, gossamer


You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Sif Muna.
Sif Muna is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 10 branches of the dungeon, and seen 59 of its levels.
You have visited 1 bazaar.

You have collected 8922 gold pieces.
You have spent 4024 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 g - a +6,+6 demon blade of slicing (weapon)
 I - the +3,+3 Elemental Staff {rElec rF++ rC++ MR++ AC+5}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)   
   
   It affects your AC (+5).
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
Armour
 f - the +2 buckler of the Lost Ghosts (worn) {rPois rN+ SInv}
   (You acquired it on level 2 of the Swamp)   
   
   It protects you from poison.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It enhances your eyesight.
 l - a +4 troll leather armour (worn)
 p - a +1 elven cloak of preservation (worn)
 q - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
 K - a +0 pair of elven gloves of strength (worn)
 M - the +4 moon troll leather armour {Spirit, MP+5 Regen}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)   
   
   It affects your magic capacity (+5).
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
 V - a +2 horned helmet of intelligence (worn)
Magical devices
 b - a wand of disintegration (3)
 h - a wand of heal wounds (4)
 t - a wand of teleportation (3)
 U - a wand of digging (13)
 W - a wand of heal wounds (9)
Comestibles
 c - 2 bread rations
 u - 2 meat rations
Scrolls
 a - 2 scrolls of blinking
 x - 2 scrolls of identify
 A - 3 scrolls of magic mapping
 C - 3 scrolls of fog
 H - 5 scrolls of remove curse
 L - a scroll of recharging
 T - 8 scrolls of teleportation
Jewellery
 k - the ring "Verchot" {rPois rC+ MR++}
   (You took it off a deep elf master archer on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of protection from cold]
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 o - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
 v - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
 w - a +6 ring of protection (right hand)
 z - the ring "Canakuvic" (left hand) {rC+ Str+3 Dex+3}
   (You took it off a vault sentinel on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of protection from cold]
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
 B - an uncursed ring of wizardry
 J - an uncursed amulet of clarity
Potions
 d - 5 potions of heal wounds
 e - 2 potions of speed
 m - 9 potions of curing
 r - 3 potions of magic
 s - a potion of brilliance
Books
 y - Sif Muna's Reference Book on Snow and Attacks
   (Sif Muna gifted it to you on level 3 of the Vaults)   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Freeze                            Ice                          1
   Condensation Shield                Ice                          4
   *Bolt of Cold                      Conjuration/Ice              6
   Ice Storm                          Conjuration/Ice              9
 E - a Necronomicon {highlevel}   
   This book is beyond your current level of understanding.
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Haunt                              Necromancy/Summoning         7
   Borgnjor's Revivification          Necromancy                   8
   Death's Door                       Charms/Necromancy            8
   Necromutation                      Transmutation/Necromancy     8
 G - a book of Ice   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Freezing Aura                      Charms/Ice                   2
   *Ensorcelled Hibernation           Hexes/Ice                    2
   Ozocubu's Refrigeration            Ice                          6
   *Bolt of Cold                      Conjuration/Ice              6
   *Freezing Cloud                    Conjuration/Ice/Air          6
   Metabolic Englaciation             Hexes/Ice                    6
   Simulacrum                         Ice/Necromancy               6
Magical staves
 F - an uncursed staff of conjuration


   Skills:
 - Level 14.0 Fighting
   Level 5.4 Short Blades
 - Level 14.1 Long Blades
 * Level 0.2 Staves
 - Level 5.0 Armour
 - Level 15.1 Dodging
 - Level 7.8 Stealth
 - Level 2.8 Shields
 - Level 20.0 Spellcasting
 - Level 20.1 Conjurations
 - Level 9.4 Charms
 - Level 19.6 Ice Magic
 - Level 12.6 Air Magic
 - Level 5.4 Poison Magic
 - Level 16.0 Invocations


You have 8 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Freeze                Ice            ####         0%          1    None
b - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       #######...   0%          3    None
c - Magic Dart            Conj           ####         0%          1    None
d - Throw Icicle          Conj/Ice       #######.     0%          4    None
e - Haste                 Chrm           ######..     6%          6    None
f - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       #######...   1%          2    None
g - Freezing Cloud        Conj/Ice/Air   #######...   1%          6    None
h - Ensorcelled Hibernat  Hex/Ice        ######       1%          2    None
i - Bolt of Cold          Conj/Ice       #######...   1%          6    None
j - Orb of Destruction    Conj           ########..   1%          7    ###....
k - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ######....   1%          3    None
l - Poison Arrow          Conj/Pois      #######...   1%          6    None
m - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       #######...   1%          2    None
n - Lightning Bolt        Conj/Air       #######...   1%          5    None
o - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          1%          2    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (16/16)            Temple (1/1) D:5             Orc (4/4) D:9
    Elf (3/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:10          Swamp (5/5) Lair:5
 Spider (5/5) Lair:5        Slime (6/6) Lair:6       Vaults (5/5) Depths:3
  Crypt (0/5) Vaults:2        Zot (0/5) Depths:6     Depths (6/6) D:16
 Blade: Vaults:3-4 

Just cleared Slimes and got 4 runes. Slimes offered some nice goodies, but not sure if I have the xp to use them fully.

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 I - the +3,+3 Elemental Staff {rElec rF++ rC++ MR++ AC+5}
 M - the +4 moon troll leather armour {Spirit, MP+5 Regen}

I'm thinking of switching my weapon and armor to those; would that be good? At least for the staff, it would provide really good resistance as well as being a excellent melee weapon. Not so sure about moon troll leather armor because of spirit..maybe I should just stick with my troll leather armor.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.14-a0-958-g08bf1ed (tiles) character file.

1982649 Ismer the Devastator (level 27, 195/195 (196) HPs)
             Began as a High Elf Ice Elementalist on Nov 21, 2013.
             Was the Champion of Sif Muna.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 4 runes on Nov 22, 2013!
             
             The game lasted 12:09:39 (97022 turns).

Ismer the Devastator (High Elf Ice Elementalist)   Turns: 97022, Time: 12:09:39

HP 195/195 (196) AC 23     Str 16      XL: 27
MP  48/48        EV 27     Int 31      God: Sif Muna [******]
Gold 5756        SH 14     Dex 23      Spells: 16 memorised,  4 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : +   g - +6,+7 demon blade (slice)
Res.Cold  : + . .   Warding    : .   l - +4 troll leather armour
Life Prot.: + . .   Conserve   : +   f - +2 buckler of the Lost Ghosts {rPois rN+ SInv}
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : +   V - +2 horned helmet {Int+3}
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   p - +2 elf cloak {rCorr, Cons}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   K - +0 pair of elf gloves {Str+3}
Res.Mut.  : +       Stasis     : .   q - +0 pair of boots
Res.Rott. : .       Flight     : .   o - amulet of resist mutation
Saprovore : . . .                    w - +6 ring of protection
                                     z - ring "Canakuvic" {rC+ Str+3 Dex+3}

@: very slightly contaminated, very resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly
stealthy
A: mutation resistance 1
a: Channel Energy, Forget Spell, Renounce Religion
0: Orb of Zot
}: 4/15 runes: decaying, slimy, silver, gossamer


You escaped.
You worshipped Sif Muna.
Sif Muna was exalted by your worship.
You were full.

You visited 12 branches of the dungeon, and saw 69 of its levels.
You visited 1 bazaar.

You collected 10088 gold pieces.
You spent 4332 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 g - a +6,+7 demon blade of slicing (weapon)
 I - the +3,+3 Elemental Staff {rElec rF++ rC++ MR++ AC+5}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)   
   
   It affects your AC (+5).
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It greatly protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
Armour
 f - the +2 buckler of the Lost Ghosts (worn) {rPois rN+ SInv}
   (You acquired it on level 2 of the Swamp)   
   
   It protects you from poison.
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It enhances your eyesight.
 l - a +4 troll leather armour (worn)
 p - a +2 elven cloak of preservation (worn)
 q - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
 K - a +0 pair of elven gloves of strength (worn)
 V - a +2 horned helmet of intelligence (worn)
Magical devices
 b - a wand of disintegration (9)
 h - a wand of heal wounds (3)
 j - a wand of cold (11)
 t - a wand of teleportation (2)
 U - a wand of digging (8)
 W - a wand of heal wounds (8)
Comestibles
 c - a bread ration
Scrolls
 a - 4 scrolls of blinking
 x - 2 scrolls of identify
 C - 2 scrolls of fog
 H - 5 scrolls of remove curse
Jewellery
 o - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
 v - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
 w - a +6 ring of protection (right hand)
 z - the ring "Canakuvic" (left hand) {rC+ Str+3 Dex+3}
   (You took it off a vault sentinel on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of protection from cold]
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
 J - an uncursed amulet of clarity
Potions
 d - 5 potions of heal wounds
 m - 5 potions of curing
 r - a potion of magic
Magical staves
 F - an uncursed staff of conjuration


   Skills:
 * Level 18.6 Fighting
   Level 5.4 Short Blades
 - Level 14.1 Long Blades
 - Level 12.0 Staves
 - Level 5.0 Armour
 - Level 15.1 Dodging
 - Level 7.8 Stealth
 - Level 2.8 Shields
 - Level 21.3 Spellcasting
 - Level 23.3 Conjurations
 - Level 9.4 Charms
 - Level 21.3 Ice Magic
 - Level 12.6 Air Magic
 - Level 5.4 Poison Magic
 - Level 16.0 Invocations
 - Level 7.6 Evocations


You had 4 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Freeze                Ice            ####         0%          1    None
b - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       #######...   0%          3    None
c - Magic Dart            Conj           ####         0%          1    None
d - Ice Storm             Conj/Ice       ########..   14%         9    ######.
e - Haste                 Chrm           ######..     3%          6    None
f - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       #######...   1%          2    None
g - Freezing Cloud        Conj/Ice/Air   ########..   1%          6    None
h - Ensorcelled Hibernat  Hex/Ice        ######       1%          2    None
i - Bolt of Cold          Conj/Ice       ########..   1%          6    None
j - Orb of Destruction    Conj           ########..   1%          7    ##.....
k - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ######....   1%          3    None
l - Poison Arrow          Conj/Pois      #######...   1%          6    None
m - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       #######...   1%          2    None
n - Lightning Bolt        Conj/Air       #######...   1%          5    None
o - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          1%          2    None
p - Flight                Chrm/Air       #######...   1%          3    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (16/16)            Temple (1/1) D:5             Orc (4/4) D:9
    Elf (3/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:10          Swamp (5/5) Lair:5
 Spider (5/5) Lair:5        Slime (6/6) Lair:6       Vaults (5/5) Depths:3
  Crypt (5/5) Vaults:2        Zot (5/5) Depths:6     Depths (6/6) D:16
 Blade: Vaults:3-4    Tomb: Crypt:2-3   


Just decided to go for 4 rune win. Maybe I didn't follow Sif Muga guide correctly (if such a thing does exist), but she didn't impress me that much. Channeling took quite a toll with my hunger rate, and I really missed Vehumet's abilities throughout the game.

[Hurkyl]

Just decided to go for 4 rune win. Maybe I didn't follow Sif Muga guide correctly (if such a thing does exist), but she didn't impress me that much. Channeling took quite a toll with my hunger rate, and I really missed Vehumet's abilities throughout the game.

You might be more happy with Sif if you learned that Vehumet would not have gifted you Ice Storm this game. Sif guarantees access to important spells -- and often many useful spells mid-game.

You also get the flexibility that you can just learn spells whenever you want without caring about managing your spell levels, because you can unmemorize them with essentially no cost.

At full piety, you never get miscast effects, which means the only reason to get your failure rates down is because, for example, you don't want to waste the 9 MP and 1 turn when you fail to cast ice storm, rather than because you don't want to get blasted for 31 damage or caught in a freezing cloud at a bad time.

If you are conservative with your spell slots and always train spell skills to low spell failure rates before using them, then you are, to some degree, missing out on some of the power that Sif can give you.

[nordetsa]

If you are conservative with your spell slots and always train spell skills to low spell failure rates before using them, then you are, to some degree, missing out on some of the power that Sif can give you.

Yeah I guess I'm the type of a person who needs to have every single spell down to less than 8% failure... I could cast ice storm with 34% failure rate, but I would've much preferred mp gain on kill and aid on destructive magic.

And with ice storm being not smite-like...guess I'm more suited to the classic Fire-Earth Vehument blasters.