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Temple Termagant

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Joined: Tuesday, 16th April 2013, 20:49

Post Tuesday, 16th April 2013, 20:59

YASD DsCj-Mennas 0:1

I'm pretty much new to this game and this has been my best Charakter so far.
As a DsCj how can I avoid getting killed by Mennas? Is it even possible?
Should I just have gone down to the next D-Lvl?
Your advice would be very helpful.

  Code:
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.11.2 (tiles) character file.

185938 Radiated the Eclecticist (level 17, -2/133 HPs)
             Began as a Demonspawn Conjurer on Apr 16, 2013.
             Was the Champion of Vehumet.
             Slain by Mennas
             ... wielding a +3,+2 blessed long sword of holy wrath
              (30 damage)
             ... on Level 20 of the Dungeon.
             The game lasted 04:47:15 (50737 turns).

Radiated the Eclecticist (Demonspawn Conjurer)     Turns: 50737, Time: 04:47:17

HP  -2/133       AC 16     Str 10      XL: 17   Next: 84%
MP  36/49        EV 21     Int 32      God: Vehumet [******]
Gold 3092        SH 23     Dex 17      Spells:  7 memorised, 21 levels left

Res.Fire  : + + .   See Invis. : .   H - +6 demon trident (flame)
Res.Cold  : + + +   Warding    : .   b - +2 robe {rC+ rF+}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   l - +1 dwarf shield
Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : +   r - +3 hat of Pondering {ponderous, MR MP+10 I
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : +   y - +4 cloak of Vitteefaon {rF+ rC++}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   R - +0 pair of gauntlets
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   (boots unavailable)
Res.Rott. : .       Ctrl.Telep.: +   t - amulet of clarity
Saprovore : . . .   Levitation : .   u - +4 ring of evasion
                    Ctrl.Flight: .   k - ring of Hoaffubb {cTele Dex+3 Int+5 Acc-2}

@: very slightly contaminated, glowing, slow, quite resistant to hostile
enchantments, very unstealthy
A: hooves 3, demonic guardian 1, powered by death 1, +20% hp, AC +3
a: no special abilities


You were on level 20 of the Dungeon.
You worshipped Vehumet.
Vehumet was exalted by your worship.
You were near starving.

You visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and saw 38 of its levels.
You visited 1 bazaar.
You also visited: Bailey and Volcano.

You collected 4366 gold pieces.
You spent 1294 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 H - a +6,+6 demon trident of flaming (weapon)
Armour
 b - a +2 robe of resistance (worn)
 g - a +1 cloak of preservation
 l - a +1 dwarven shield (worn)
 r - the +3 hat of Pondering (worn) {ponderous, MR MP+10 Int+5}
   (You took it off Gastronok on level 10 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+5).
   It increases your resistance to enchantments.
   It affects your mana capacity (+10).
 y - the +4 cloak of Vitteefaon (worn) {rF+ rC++}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 9 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It greatly protects you from cold.
 P - a +2 robe of cold resistance
 Q - a +0 cloak of magic resistance
 R - a +0 pair of gauntlets (worn)
Magical devices
 o - a wand of teleportation (4)
 M - a wand of slowing (2) {unknown}
Comestibles
 E - 3 honeycombs
 F - a royal jelly
 G - a lemon
 I - an apple
Scrolls
 a - 4 scrolls of remove curse
 c - 2 scrolls of vorpalise weapon
 f - a scroll of enchant weapon I
 h - a scroll of identify
 j - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 n - a scroll of enchant armour
 p - a scroll of recharging
 q - 3 scrolls of teleportation
 z - a scroll of enchant weapon II
Jewellery
 k - the ring of Hoaffubb (left hand) {cTele Dex+3 Int+5 Acc-2}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [ring of teleport control]
   
   It affects your intelligence (+5).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It affects your accuracy (-2).
 t - an amulet of clarity (around neck)
 u - a +4 ring of evasion (right hand)
 v - the ring of Renit {Hunger MR}
   (You took it off a deep elf conjurer on level 2 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of hunger]
   
   It increases your resistance to enchantments.
 w - an uncursed ring of sustenance
 x - a +3 ring of protection
 J - an uncursed ring of ice
Potions
 d - a potion of berserk rage
 e - 2 potions of curing
 i - 3 potions of might
 D - a potion of brilliance
 N - a potion of speed
 S - a potion of agility
Books
 s - a book of Party Tricks   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Summon Butterflies                 Summoning                    1
   Apportation                        Translocation                1
   Blink                              Translocation                2
   Tukima's Dance                     Hexes                        3
   Alistair's Intoxication            Transmutation/Poison         4
 A - a book of Annihilations {highlevel}   
   WARNING: If you fail in an attempt to memorise a spell from this book, the
   book will lash out at you.
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Poison Arrow                       Conjuration/Poison           6
   *Orb of Destruction                Conjuration                  7
   Chain Lightning                    Conjuration/Air              8
   Lehudib's Crystal Spear            Conjuration/Earth            8
   Ice Storm                          Conjuration/Ice              9
   Fire Storm                         Conjuration/Fire             9
Magical staves
 C - an uncursed staff of power
Miscellaneous
 B - a crystal ball of energy


   Skills:
 - Level 5,0 Fighting
 + Level 9,2 Dodging
 - Level 1,7 Stealth
 + Level 7,3 Shields
 - Level 17,7 Spellcasting
 * Level 16,0 Conjurations
 * Level 14,4 Ice Magic
 - Level 9,9 Air Magic


You had 21 spell levels left.
You knew the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Bolt of Cold          Conj/Ice       ########..   1%          6    None
b - Mephitic Cloud        Conj/Pois/Air  #######..    1%          3    None
c - Orb of Destruction    Conj           ########..   1%          7    ####...
e - Lightning Bolt        Conj/Air       ########..   1%          5    None
f - Freezing Cloud        Conj/Ice/Air   ########..   1%          6    None
m - Magic Dart            Conj           #####        0%          1    None
t - Throw Frost           Conj/Ice       #######      0%          2    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (21/27)            Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (4/4) D:7
    Elf (3/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:8          Shoals (0/5) Lair:3 Lair:4
 Spider (0/5) Lair:3        Slime (0/6) Lair:8       Vaults (1/8) D:19

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One
Jiyva

Shops:
D:4: **/  D:9: [  D:10: %  Orc:1: (  Orc:4: %?*

Portals:
Bazaar: D:21
Trove: D:19 (give 4 scrolls of blinking)

Annotations
D:7 Prince Ribbit
D:16 exclusion: door
D:20 Mennas


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have hooves in place of feet.
You are completely covered in yellow scales (AC +3, rCorr).
A weak demonic guardian rushes to your aid.
You can steal the life force of nearby defeated enemies.
You are very robust (+20% HP).


Message History

Your iron imp is engulfed in freezing vapours.
Mennas is engulfed in freezing vapours.
Mennas mumbles some strange words.
Mennas' surroundings become eerily quiet.
Your iron imp is engulfed in freezing vapours.
You hit Mennas but do no damage.
Mennas is lightly wounded.
Mennas hits you with a blessed long sword of holy wrath.
You convulse. You block Mennas' attack.
Your iron imp is engulfed in freezing vapours.
You kill your iron imp!
You miss Mennas.
Mennas is lightly wounded.
Mennas is engulfed in freezing vapours.
Mennas hits you with a blessed long sword of holy wrath!
You convulse! You block Mennas' attack. Mennas is engulfed in freezing vapours.
Mennas hits you with a blessed long sword of holy wrath!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You convulse!
You die...

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You could see Mennas.

Vanquished Creatures
  Nikola (Elf:3)
  Rupert (Elf:3)
  Agnes (D:14)
  Frances (D:18)
  Aizul (D:16)
  Wiglaf (D:18)
  Maud (Lair:4)
  Gastronok (D:10)
  A stone giant (Orc:3)
  A deep elf death mage (Elf:3)
  A yaktaur captain (D:19)
  A siren (shapeshifter) (D:16)
  12 hydras
  Fannar (Elf:2)
  Erica (D:13)
  Harold (Lair:4)
  A ravenous feature mimic (D:18)
  5 ogre magi
  A stone giant zombie (D:19)
  A rakshasa (D:15)
  5 death yaks (Lair:5)
  A very ugly thing (D:21)
  An elf (shapeshifter) (Elf:1)
  Urug (Orc:3)
  A catoblepas (Lair:7)
  A frost giant skeleton (D:20)
  9 centaur warriors
  11 deep elf knights
  4 skeletal warriors (D:21)
  A soul eater (D:18)
  9 orc knights
  3 unseen horrors
  A human (shapeshifter) (D:18)
  A lindwurm (Volcano)
  3 giant amoebae
  An iron troll skeleton (D:20)
  8 cyclopes
  26 hill giants
  The ghost of NotMottled the Conjurer, an experienced DrCj of Vehumet (Bailey)
  A draconian (shapeshifter) (D:16)
  3 griffons
  A hydra skeleton (D:12)
  2 oklob plants (Lair:6)
  An ettin zombie (D:17)
  2 griffon zombies
  11 elephants
  An elephant slug (Lair:8)
  An eye of devastation (D:16)
  30 slime creatures
  4 black mambas
  A queen ant (Lair:7)
  An orange demon (D:18)
  19 spiny frogs
  7 rock trolls
  A feature mimic (Orc:4)
  6 yaktaurs
  A mermaid (Lair:4)
  53 ugly things
  19 trolls
  4 giant leeches
  A spriggan (D:7)
  A wandering mushroom (Lair:7)
  2 komodo dragons
  A spriggan (shapeshifter) (D:16)
  An agate snail zombie (D:16)
  A snapping turtle (Lair:3)
  15 two-headed ogres
  A queen bee (D:17)
  25 blink frogs
  5 basilisks
  A grizzly bear (shapeshifter) (D:20)
  A tarantella (Lair:3)
  6 wraiths
  2 vampires
  3 toenail golems (Volcano)
  5 fire elementals (Volcano)
  14 deep elf conjurers
  2 hungry ghosts
  Eustachio (D:7)
  11 deep elf summoners
  Grum (Orc:1)
  A molten gargoyle (Volcano)
  6 wyverns
  3 fire vortices (Volcano)
  15 vampire mosquitoes
  2 fire drakes
  3 hippogriffs
  5 war dogs
  73 yaks
  A yaktaur zombie (D:14)
  17 deep elf fighters
  A rock worm (D:20)
  5 necrophages
  A boulder beetle (D:20)
  5 soldier ants (Lair:7)
  5 mottled dragons
  2 yaktaur skeletons
  2 freezing wraiths
  A deep troll simulacrum (D:20)
  3 manticores
  A cyclops zombie (D:18)
  5 deep elf priests
  2 troll zombies (D:7)
  2 yellow wasps
  A sky beast (D:7)
  6 phantoms
  A small abomination (D:15)
  34 orc warriors
  An ice beast (D:14)
  16 centaurs
  30 ogres
  A kobold demonologist (D:18)
  2 rotting devils (Elf:2)
  A wolf (shapeshifter) (D:16)
  2 giant goldfish (Lair:8)
  A boring beetle (Lair:8)
  A warg (Orc:4)
  32 giant frogs
  A giant slug (shapeshifter) (D:17)
  8 giant slugs
  11 water moccasins
  A two-headed ogre zombie (D:12)
  11 crocodiles
  15 big kobolds
  6 agate snails
  A soldier ant zombie (D:12)
  15 deep elf magi
  A giant frog skeleton (D:17)
  A water moccasin skeleton (D:10)
  A two-headed ogre skeleton (D:12)
  A giant frog zombie (D:12)
  A basilisk skeleton (D:13)
  39 killer bees
  10 jellyfish
  A killer bee zombie (D:12)
  A troll simulacrum (D:12)
  A brain worm zombie (D:15)
  2 big kobold zombies
  3 ogre zombies (D:7)
  2 goliath beetles
  10 wights
  2 shadows (D:16)
  A hound zombie (D:7)
  15 crimson imps
  A big kobold skeleton (D:13)
  3 gnoll shamans (D:10)
  13 hounds
  Crazy Yiuf (D:7)
  33 orc priests
  A hound skeleton (D:10)
  10 big fish
  8 iguanas
  21 worker ants
  6 orange rats
  6 iron imps
  47 orc wizards
  10 porcupines
  44 deep elf soldiers
  5 scorpions
  A porcupine (shapeshifter) (D:21)
  24 sheep
  A worm zombie (D:5)
  Ijyb (D:2)
  Jessica (D:3)
  3 boggarts (D:19)
  5 jellies
  A goliath beetle zombie (D:9)
  A gnoll (shapeshifter) (D:17)
  15 adders
  6 giant centipedes
  20 gnolls
  51 green rats
  2 lemures
  2 shadow imps (Elf:1)
  A scorpion zombie (D:8)
  A white imp (Lair:7)
  5 worms
  A giant mite (D:3)
  7 ufetubi
  2 grey rats
  2 giant eyeballs
  2 giant geckos
  An ooze (D:1)
  198 orcs
  2 ball pythons
  21 bats
  20 goblins
  20 hobgoblins
  23 jackals
  21 quokkas
  3 ant larvae (Lair:7)
  6 giant cockroaches
  4 giant newts
  3 giant spores
  2 hobgoblin skeletons (D:7)
  3 hobgoblin zombies
  42 kobolds
  2 kobold skeletons
  4 orc skeletons
  17 orc zombies (D:7)
  A quokka skeleton (D:6)
  26 rats
  A rat skeleton (D:4)
  5 ballistomycetes
  2 bushes (Lair:1)
  5 fungi
  17 plants
  69 toadstools
1725 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  An elephant slug (Lair:6)
  A griffon skeleton (D:15)
  A spiny frog (Lair:1)
  A two-headed ogre (D:20)
  A giant leech (Lair:8)
  2 blink frogs
  A hungry ghost (D:7)
  A hippogriff (D:14)
  5 yaks
  A phantom (D:8)
  An ogre (D:8)
  A giant frog (Lair:8)
  A killer bee (D:12)
  A crimson imp (D:11)
  3 ogre zombies (D:7)
  A hound (D:4)
  An orc priest (D:7)
  An iguana (D:4)
  2 worker ants (Lair:5)
  A porcupine (Lair:3)
  An orc wizard (D:8)
  A jelly (D:8)
  3 sheep
  A gnoll (D:3)
  2 green rats (Lair:8)
  A giant cockroach (D:8)
  2 hobgoblins
  A jackal (Lair:6)
  A quokka (Lair:1)
  2 bats
  3 kobolds
  An orc zombie (D:7)
  2 rats
  A ballistomycete (D:11)
  A fungus (Lair:3)
51 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A slime creature (D:19)
  A spiny frog (Lair:8)
  A yak (D:11)
  A small abomination (Lair:5)
  A crocodile (Lair:2)
  A human (D:6)
  2 giant frogs
  6 crimson imps
  21 iron imps
  A deep elf soldier (D:12)
  2 orange rats (Lair:7)
  8 sheep (Lair:8)
  A gnoll (D:10)
  5 green rats
  26 lemures
  22 white imps
  22 ufetubi
  3 orcs
  A jackal (D:11)
  A goblin (Orc:3)
  A kobold (D:13)
  2 rats (Lair:5)
  24 fungi
  10 plants
  270 toadstools
434 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2210 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Radiated, the Demonspawn Conjurer, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 3/3
   495 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in yellow scales (AC +1). [demonic ancestry]
   495 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 19/19 MP: 2/4
  1028 | D:2      | Gained mutation: A weak demonic guardian rushes to your aid. [demonic ancestry]
  1028 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 17/24 MP: 3/6
  1216 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  1239 | D:2      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  1422 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
  1511 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 28/30 MP: 0/7
  1604 | D:2      | Noticed Ijyb
  1700 | D:2      | Killed Ijyb
  1718 | D:2      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  2000 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
  2089 | D:3      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  2112 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 35/35 MP: 2/9
  2655 | D:4      | Found Betavy's General Store.
  2665 | D:4      | Bought a scroll of blinking for 55 gold pieces
  3170 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Conjurations
  3261 | D:3      | Noticed Jessica
  3269 | D:3      | Killed Jessica
  3374 | D:4      | Found Caron's Assorted Antiques.
  3385 | D:4      | Bought an embroidered cloak for 30 gold pieces
  3390 | D:4      | Identified a +1 cloak of preservation (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Dungeon)
  3729 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You are mostly covered in yellow scales (AC +2). [demonic ancestry]
  3729 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You have large cloven feet. [demonic ancestry]
  3729 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 28/41 MP: 3/10
  4068 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Conjurations
  4436 | D:4      | Found Yjahu's Magical Wand Emporium.
  4479 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5142 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 46/46 MP: 6/12
  5208 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Conjurations
  5784 | D:5      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
  6000 | D:6      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  6127 | D:6      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  6448 | D:6      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  6682 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Conjurations
  6682 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 31/52 MP: 5/14
  7014 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  7020 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  7047 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Vehumet
  7077 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  7111 | D:7      | Noticed a spriggan baker
  7116 | D:7      | Killed a spriggan baker
  7116 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic
  7289 | D:7      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  7760 | D:7      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  7768 | D:7      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  7891 | D:7      | Acquired Vehumet's first power
  8117 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  8412 | D:7      | Gained mutation: You are completely covered in yellow scales (AC +3, rCorr). [demonic ancestry]
  8412 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 57/57 MP: 11/18
  8872 | D:7      | Noticed Eustachio
  8893 | D:7      | Killed Eustachio
  9084 | D:8      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
  9091 | D:8      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
  9119 | D:8      | Acquired Vehumet's second power
  9236 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  9364 | D:7      | Learned a level 5 spell: Lightning Bolt
  9368 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  9665 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  9677 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  9679 | Lair:1   | Noticed a spiny frog
  9806 | Lair:1   | Killed a spiny frog
 10621 | Lair:1   | Noticed a black mamba
 10627 | Lair:1   | Killed a black mamba
 10815 | Lair:1   | Gained mutation: You can steal the life force of nearby defeated enemies. [demonic ancestry]
 10815 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 10. HP: 49/63 MP: 13/25
 10984 | Lair:1   | Noticed a black mamba
 11041 | Lair:1   | Killed a black mamba
 11051 | Lair:1   | Acquired Vehumet's third power
 12069 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 12528 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
 13488 | Lair:3   | Acquired Vehumet's fourth power
 13659 | Lair:3   | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 13703 | Lair:3   | Killed an eight-headed hydra
 13703 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
 13703 | Lair:3   | Gained mutation: You are robust (+10% HP). [demonic ancestry]
 13703 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 63/74 MP: 21/28
 14014 | Lair:3   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 14468 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 14633 | Lair:4   | Noticed Maud
 14670 | Lair:4   | Killed Maud
 14670 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 11 in Conjurations
 14899 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 14916 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic
 15014 | Lair:4   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 15238 | Lair:4   | Learned a level 6 spell: Freezing Cloud
 15259 | Lair:4   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 15708 | Lair:4   | Noticed Harold
 15721 | Lair:4   | Killed Harold
 16763 | Lair:4   | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 16768 | Lair:4   | Killed an eight-headed hydra
 17141 | Lair:5   | Gained mutation: You are very robust (+20% HP). [demonic ancestry]
 17141 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 74/88 MP: 19/29
 17162 | Lair:5   | Noticed a death yak
 17163 | Lair:5   | Noticed a death yak
 17165 | Lair:5   | Noticed a death yak
 17169 | Lair:5   | Noticed a death yak
 17169 | Lair:5   | Noticed a death yak
 17174 | Lair:5   | Killed a death yak
 17178 | Lair:5   | Killed a death yak
 17429 | Lair:5   | Killed a death yak
 17441 | Lair:5   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 17458 | Lair:5   | Killed a death yak
 17460 | Lair:5   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 17460 | Lair:5   | Killed a death yak
 17460 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting
 17955 | Lair:6   | Got a brightly glowing long sword
 18150 | Lair:6   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 18156 | Lair:6   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 18159 | Lair:6   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 18164 | Lair:6   | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 18186 | Lair:6   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 18197 | Lair:6   | Killed an eight-headed hydra
 18199 | Lair:6   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 18199 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 13 in Spellcasting
 18205 | Lair:6   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 18714 | Lair:6   | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Cold
 18995 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 14 in Spellcasting
 19216 | Lair:7   | Identified the cursed +1,+1 long sword "Teudgh" {vamp} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 19539 | Lair:7   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 94/94 MP: 22/33
 20300 | Lair:7   | Got a bloodstained ring mail
 20303 | Lair:7   | Identified the cursed -2 ring mail of Exclusion (You found it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts)
 20611 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting
 20951 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Vehumet
 21161 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 21177 | Lair:8   | Got an engraved book
 21178 | Lair:8   | Identified the Handbook of Ashen Buffs (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 22090 | Lair:8   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 22091 | Lair:8   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 22116 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 16 in Spellcasting
 24225 | Lair:8   | Got a heavily runed wooden ring
 24408 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 17 in Spellcasting
 24750 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Vehumet
 24812 | Lair:8   | Identified the ring of Hoaffubb (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 24954 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 7 spell: Orb of Destruction
 24982 | D:8      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 25626 | D:9      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 25654 | D:9      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 25713 | D:9      | Found Khoul's Armour Emporium.
 25939 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 26344 | D:10     | Found Sheo's Food Emporium.
 26491 | D:10     | Noticed Gastronok
 26500 | D:10     | Killed Gastronok
 26500 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 26520 | D:10     | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
 26939 | D:11     | Gained mutation: You have hoof-like feet. [demonic ancestry]
 26939 | D:11     | Reached XP level 14. HP: 104/104 MP: 30/36
 27390 | D:11     | Received a gift from Vehumet
 27958 | D:12     | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 28658 | D:12     | Found a flagged portal.
 28667 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
 28669 | Bailey   | Noticed NotMottled's ghost (experienced DrCj)
 28671 | Bailey   | Killed NotMottled's ghost
 30461 | D:13     | Noticed Erica
 30463 | D:13     | Killed Erica
 31302 | D:14     | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon
 31745 | D:14     | Noticed Agnes
 31751 | D:14     | Killed Agnes
 32541 | D:14     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 116/116 MP: 32/37
 32585 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 32627 | D:15     | Reached skill level 10 in Ice Magic
 35413 | D:16     | Noticed Aizul
 35420 | D:16     | Killed Aizul
 36063 | D:9      | Bought the +4 cloak of Vitteefaon {rF+ rC++} for 1209 gold pieces
 36415 | D:17     | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
 37207 | D:17     | Reached XP level 16. HP: 112/124 MP: 38/38
 37313 | D:17     | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 37657 | D:17     | You fall through a shaft!
 38037 | D:18     | Noticed Wiglaf
 38043 | D:18     | Killed Wiglaf
 38833 | D:18     | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 39264 | D:18     | Noticed Frances
 39287 | D:18     | Killed Frances
 39770 | D:19     | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 41049 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 41049 | Orc:1    | Noticed Grum
 41055 | Orc:1    | Killed Grum
 41307 | Orc:1    | Found Iceereic's Weapon Boutique.
 42420 | Orc:3    | Noticed Urug
 42425 | Orc:3    | Killed Urug
 42876 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 43029 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 43698 | Orc:4    | Found Diahyga's Magic Scroll Emporium.
 43700 | Orc:4    | Found Zyd Yfuz's Food Shop.
 43742 | Orc:4    | Found Yrownuiv's Food Shop.
 43744 | Orc:4    | Found Etuod's General Store.
 43832 | Orc:4    | Yrownuiv's Food Shop was a mimic.
 44299 | Orc:4    | Found a dark tunnel.
 44305 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 44603 | Volcano  | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 44633 | Volcano  | Gained mutation: You have hooves in place of feet. [demonic ancestry]
 44633 | Volcano  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 133/133 MP: 39/39
 44767 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 46376 | Elf:2    | Noticed Fannar
 46380 | Elf:2    | Killed Fannar
 46816 | Elf:2    | Got a heavily runed granite ring
 46982 | Elf:2    | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations
 46983 | Elf:2    | Found a gateway to a bazaar.
 46994 | Bazaar   | Entered a bazaar
 46994 | Bazaar   | Found Kliwn's Weapon Shoppe.
 46994 | Bazaar   | Found Osit's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
 46995 | Bazaar   | Found Puyquta's Antique Weapon Shop.
 46996 | Bazaar   | Found Wuybbuo's Armour Emporium.
 46996 | Bazaar   | Found Puucwa's Jewellery Shop.
 47067 | Elf:2    | Identified the ring of Renit (You took it off a deep elf conjurer on level 2 of the Elven Halls)
 47077 | Elf:3    | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls
 47327 | Elf:3    | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 47589 | Elf:3    | Noticed Rupert
 47590 | Elf:3    | Paralysed by Rupert for 2 turns
 47596 | Elf:3    | Killed Rupert
 47688 | Elf:3    | Noticed Nikola
 47700 | Elf:3    | Killed Nikola
 47853 | Elf:3    | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 49057 | D:19     | Found a staircase to the Vaults.
 49113 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 49329 | D:20     | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon
 50121 | D:20     | Noticed Mennas
 50389 | D:21     | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar.
 50737 | D:20     | Slain by Mennas

Cocytus Succeeder

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Post Tuesday, 16th April 2013, 21:11

Re: YASD DsCj-Mennas 0:1

You were unprepared to fight Mennas: as mage you need haste (and possibly swiftness) to be faster than him and able to kite and damage outside of his silence's aura. Semi-controlledblink can be an alternative, but it's more dangerous - if you land inside silence's area you may be screwed - and probably you'd need to (ab)use enough to enter in yellow glow area. For this character, best thing to do was teleport away and explore deeper floor, totally forgetting this one for long time.

Next mage character, wear a buckler and train the skill only up 5: regular shield aren't good enough to justify the experience needed to get up 15 - unless some awesome one is found, like resistance.
If you ever find hat of pondering again, don't wear it, but throw in the lava: it's a very very very bad hat to wear for 99.9% of character in every moment of the game.

You've overtrained spellcasting too: its returns, in term of spellpower and spell success rate, is 1/4 of avg magic school. You should train more the magic schools you want, raising spellcasting essentially when you need more spell slots or spell hunger of spells you want to spam is relevant.
screw it I hate this character I'm gonna go melee Gastronok

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Post Tuesday, 16th April 2013, 21:28

Re: YASD DsCj-Mennas 0:1

In general, a mage deals with Mennas with summon spam unless they wait until they have Lv 9 nukes. I once killed him at XL:15 by rampaging through Spider with 7 Greater Makhleb Servants - he happened to be in the way in Spider:5 and got stomped just like everything else. In your case, you had to just abort that entire level and either dive further or hit Vaults.

But anyway, you were wearing the hat of pondering. You'd have died for that anyway, it just so happened crawl assigned Mennas to teach this lesson.

Mines Malingerer

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Post Tuesday, 16th April 2013, 21:54

Re: YASD DsCj-Mennas 0:1

Not a combative question, but a learning questions. What is so bad about that hat of pondering? Is there some unknown effect not known about. I've never gotten one, but when I went down his stats before I read the responses I said to myself "man, I wish I had that hat."

Temple Termagant

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Post Tuesday, 16th April 2013, 22:04

Re: YASD DsCj-Mennas 0:1

Thank you very much, thats more help than I've expected.
But what in special makes the hat worse than a +0 helmet?
Sorry as I said I'm new to the game and as I found it I was like: "Wohoo artefact, freewin!"

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Post Tuesday, 16th April 2013, 22:11

Re: YASD DsCj-Mennas 0:1

Ponderous makes you slower: each step takes 1.2 aut (~turns) instead of 1.0.

The biggest drawback is you can't run from most enemies (who have speed 10) but there are other big problems too, like the greater difficulty to move during combat and so on.

Dcss is balanced on the fact (most) races have speed 10,getting slower than that is like a 100%.increase in difficulty
screw it I hate this character I'm gonna go melee Gastronok

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Post Wednesday, 17th April 2013, 02:18

Re: YASD DsCj-Mennas 0:1

Yes, Mennas can pretty much be a death sentence for a DsCj without a way to escape. It can be horrifying to watch him block a succession of orbs of destruction then silence your puny attempts to blink away. :-)
Although you could have survived with this:
  Code:
 o - a wand of teleportation (4)

Run away!

The other advice above is good too. Summon spam or Ice Storm make Mennas almost trivial. I often cart around some kind of evokable Tele or Blink (if I find it, and especially with cTele) for those unexpected cases of silence. Similarly, I think that's why Ponderousness is risky - running away fast is sometimes the only way to survive in Crawl.

Alternatively, more optimized skills might have let you get one of the big nukes online by that point too.

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Post Wednesday, 17th April 2013, 08:36

Re: YASD DsCj-Mennas 0:1

Hat of Pondering is a newbie trap, like many randarts that look awesome at first glance but has a critical flaw that newbies often oversee. It's a part of learning crawl: item appraisal.

Do a search on the advice sub-forum for more detailed discussions, but the short version is: movement speed is one of the most critical details on your character.

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Post Wednesday, 17th April 2013, 10:25

Re: YASD DsCj-Mennas 0:1

Well, thanks again everyone. I think the main problem was that the run went too smooth until that moment.
Having freezing cloud spammable made every unique until then a freeloot.
The first time I encountered Mennas I was lucky enough having read a ?teleport early.
I thought it cannot be that bad and covered him in clouds the second time I saw him. But being in his silencing aura then I just could watch him beat the hell out of my demonic body...

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Post Wednesday, 17th April 2013, 10:43

Re: YASD DsCj-Mennas 0:1

Mennas is extremely dangerous to Ds/Vm/Gh/Mu: he has two attacks, 30 and 20. With +2 blessed long sword it becomes 43 and 33, holy brand means 0-150% extra damage, so if GDR is 0% (robe) it can be 107(43+43*1.5) and 82(33+33*1.5). It is 189 damage per round, if really unlucky.

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Post Wednesday, 17th April 2013, 17:52

Re: YASD DsCj-Mennas 0:1

Psieye wrote:Hat of Pondering is a newbie trap, like many randarts that look awesome at first glance but has a critical flaw that newbies often oversee. It's a part of learning crawl: item appraisal.

Do a search on the advice sub-forum for more detailed discussions, but the short version is: movement speed is one of the most critical details on your character.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7045
And to quote crate
crate wrote:If you have to ask if you should wear hat of pondering the answer is no you shouldn't.


Given that this question frequently comes up here, maybe there should be a sticky topic about the fixedart "traps" like gong/maxwells/pondering/obsidian axe?.

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