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Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Saturday, 11th June 2016, 12:16
by 4Hooves2Appendages
This is neither a suggestion nor criticism, but the other forum sections were even worse fits.

Most of the time when I bump into player ghosts I look into the circumstances of their demise. Often the players made several serious mistakes, both strategic and tactical.

Would it be inappropriate to post these morgues as YASD with comments?
My intention would not be to ridicule the players, but to point out mistakes. Of course I can't enforce that conduct on other forum users. The morgues are in the public domain so there should be no problem with using them.

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Saturday, 11th June 2016, 13:06
by KoboldLord
I wouldn't expect this to go anywhere useful, and it would almost certainly not be worth whatever energy you put in.

Probably nobody around here would be interested in the morgues of strangers who don't post here and who are not known to any of the players here. There's already a steady stream of posters putting up CIP and YASD posts with morgues where criticism can make an actual difference for a poster who has already expressed implicit interest in getting that criticism. Picking a random stranger off the public server to criticize probably won't help them because they won't find out, and even if they do find out eventually they probably won't appreciate your uninvited evangelism. It's not against the rules to go door-to-door to tell people about your philosophy of winning crawl, but you will probably get a better response if you have them come to you instead.

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Saturday, 11th June 2016, 16:34
by ydeve
I suppose if you really wanted to you could stalk webtiles for them and ask them if they want advice, but good luck finding them, and you're likely to have a few hundred people say no thank you for every one who says ok. If you think this is a good use of your time...

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Saturday, 11th June 2016, 17:38
by HardboiledGargoyle
ydeve wrote:you're likely to have a few hundred people say no thank you for every one who says ok.
nah... I think roughly every other player appreciates advice

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Sunday, 12th June 2016, 05:39
by Arrhythmia
HardboiledGargoyle wrote:
ydeve wrote:you're likely to have a few hundred people say no thank you for every one who says ok.
nah... I think roughly every other player appreciates advice


man look at this clown named crate's ghost. i bet he really needs some advice.

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Sunday, 12th June 2016, 05:45
by Hellmonk
let's all go on a webtiles safari together

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Monday, 13th June 2016, 15:52
by dowan
I was hoping this was about calling out people with really offensive names when you run into their ghost, but then I suppose you'd just be giving them the attention they wanted in the first place...
Sorry, I just get so annoyed when I run into ghosts named DickSchlonger69 and the like...

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Monday, 13th June 2016, 16:22
by Tiktacy
dowan wrote:I was hoping this was about calling out people with really offensive names when you run into their ghost, but then I suppose you'd just be giving them the attention they wanted in the first place...
Sorry, I just get so annoyed when I run into ghosts named DickSchlonger69 and the like...


Oops

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Monday, 13th June 2016, 18:53
by Arrhythmia
dowan wrote:I was hoping this was about calling out people with really offensive names when you run into their ghost, but then I suppose you'd just be giving them the attention they wanted in the first place...
Sorry, I just get so annoyed when I run into ghosts named DickSchlonger69 and the like...


Actually, this is a really good name.

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Monday, 13th June 2016, 20:14
by johlstei
Yeah I don't like inappropriate names either but that one carries sufficient irony that it made me laugh instead.

mods rename me weedkillz420

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Monday, 13th June 2016, 20:53
by duvessa
  Code:
 21705 | Abyss    | mumbologist: whats he doin down here
 21712 | Abyss    | mumbologist: someone ought to tell him it was a bad idea to come here
 21713 | Abyss    | Autumnvixen: I was sent here twice, didnt go willingly.. also im not a he
 21744 | Abyss    | CursedNobleman: oh, that explains the name
 21771 | Abyss    | mumbologist: i assumed furry
 21788 | Abyss    | Autumnvixen: furry too yeah

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Tuesday, 14th June 2016, 03:09
by Tiktacy
duvessa wrote:
  Code:
 21705 | Abyss    | mumbologist: whats he doin down here
 21712 | Abyss    | mumbologist: someone ought to tell him it was a bad idea to come here
 21713 | Abyss    | Autumnvixen: I was sent here twice, didnt go willingly.. also im not a he
 21744 | Abyss    | CursedNobleman: oh, that explains the name
 21771 | Abyss    | mumbologist: i assumed furry
 21788 | Abyss    | Autumnvixen: furry too yeah


Where have I heard the name autumnvixen before

Was there a post about her or by her recently?

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Tuesday, 14th June 2016, 03:13
by Arrhythmia
Tiktacy wrote:
duvessa wrote:
  Code:
 21705 | Abyss    | mumbologist: whats he doin down here
 21712 | Abyss    | mumbologist: someone ought to tell him it was a bad idea to come here
 21713 | Abyss    | Autumnvixen: I was sent here twice, didnt go willingly.. also im not a he
 21744 | Abyss    | CursedNobleman: oh, that explains the name
 21771 | Abyss    | mumbologist: i assumed furry
 21788 | Abyss    | Autumnvixen: furry too yeah


Where have I heard the name autumnvixen before

Was there a post about her or by her recently?


trailerparkvixen posted recently in cyc but they're different people

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 00:33
by Haelyn
Although I haven't played online, I'd certainly welcome advice about what I could have done to not die. And I'd love to help others if I can.

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 08:19
by goodcoolguy
dowan wrote:. . . DickSchlonger69...


nice.

@duvessa: Webtiles after dark...

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 08:42
by removeelyvilon
I don't think this is a good idea, not only is it public naming and shaming, but we also don't know the exact circumstances of why a given character died, maybe the player just didn't care anymore.

Edit: I could see a mentor/mentee program on a voluntary basis work.

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Wednesday, 20th July 2016, 14:46
by dowan
I think 90% of the advice would be things like "You should have walked away earlier" or "You should have used one of your teleport scrolls" or "Don't yolo against player ghosts"

At least, that's what 90% of my deaths could be attributed to. That and "don't let your cat run across your keyboard so much". Real life felids kill me more often than the ones in the game...

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Thursday, 21st July 2016, 02:17
by duvessa
Image

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Thursday, 21st July 2016, 16:01
by johlstei
spoken like someone whose never tried to complete 26% of donkey kong 64

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Friday, 22nd July 2016, 21:58
by Arrhythmia
duvessa wrote:Image


let's be real she probably just put the n64 controller down and did something else

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Saturday, 23rd July 2016, 22:35
by eliotn
Wait was I one of these players?

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Wednesday, 3rd August 2016, 16:51
by mopl
4Hooves2Appendages wrote:This is neither a suggestion nor criticism, but the other forum sections were even worse fits.

Most of the time when I bump into player ghosts I look into the circumstances of their demise. Often the players made several serious mistakes, both strategic and tactical.

Would it be inappropriate to post these morgues as YASD with comments?
My intention would not be to ridicule the players, but to point out mistakes. Of course I can't enforce that conduct on other forum users. The morgues are in the public domain so there should be no problem with using them.
We do often play on the same webtiles (cxc), you can post my ghost if you want, I'll appreciate it ;)

Re: Public criticism of players based on their ghosts.

PostPosted: Wednesday, 3rd August 2016, 18:28
by archaeo
I think it's pretty safe to say that if people want advice, they'll ask for it, and that doing "public criticism" doesn't seem like the sort of thing we want to encourage here.

Also, while I'm not going to try to move posts around from here, if you want advice go to DCA and if you want memes go to CYC. I'll leave the thread open in case someone wants to make an impassioned plea for the ability to post other people's morgues in order to tell them what they did wrong.