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Commiserations and thanks for posting! That reminds me a lot of my recent YASD - a 15 runer with Zot emptied, getting ground down in a Ziggurat Mummy level: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3219 I was really curious as to whether being in lichform would have saved me, so it's...

Thanks! Ah, but if you go back a few more turns before the splat, then you'll see that I had cBlinked to the exit already... I just decided to go back and finish the rest of the level so I could loot it in peace. Yup, seriously, I left the downstairs to go back and kill things for no reason. Probabl...

Well, this is probably the toughest character that I ever lost: I had 15 runes and was trying to finish a Zig, but got overwhelmed by a Mummy level. The really dumb thing is that I'd already decided to blink for the stairs, got there, then decided I could take out the single remaining Greater Mummy ...

Actually I think Mikee is right about brands.
And a DSBe with anti-magic sounds just right thematically, although I've not yet explored that brand.

Good resists, but you really need rMut or some way to kill lots of stuff quick for Pan... (IMO) Do what Defen suggested and then there's also a chance of good loot in slime. Tomb can have awesome loot, but can be the toughest place in the game, so I'd leave that alone. (Edited for typo!) Also, I thi...

This counts as one of the tougher pan lords in a while, as he was very resistant to all my elemental spells, but he was still a wuss: _Wusman comes into view. Your +1,+7 demon trident of flaming stops flaming. _b - a staff of wizardry (weapon) The blast explodes into a great storm of ice! The ice st...

When I enter Cerebov's level and my biggest concern is: How will I carry all the loot?
:mrgreen:

Well, I've posted most of these artifacts already, but I think the non-artifact stuff is close to the same level now. This is what I feel every well-dressed demonspawn should be wearing on his return to hell: (headwear restricted) j - a +3 dwarven shield of resistance (worn) m - a +2 pair of boots o...

MyOtheHedgeFox wrote:Console? As I heard through IRC, you just need to press _ to quickly answer the message.

Ok, I think that read it, but I didn't see a prompt to reply. I was doing other stuff, so I was darting on and offline quickly (to avoid kids pressing random buttons).
Thanks!

How do I send messages online? - I just got a message from Josh, who asked why I am using electrocution brand (in Coctys)? I couldn't figure out how to send messages back. Doh!. The answer is because I don't have a better one. I do have a plain one that I could fire brand (I am an ice magic DSWz, so...

If you are summoning tough allies, haste them if you can. I suspect that most people knew that already, but I've found out that it's a lot more awesome than I expected. There are very few things that 2-3 hasted gold dragons or angels won't just rip through. :D Although be aware that some allies are ...

Congrats!
And yes, I sometimes feel that it's possible to clear Zot, but not really have quite the resources you'd need to clear Tomb, Hells, or to just launch yourself into Pan...

Now, it's time to go back for the other 10 runes! :mrgreen:

No. Unless perhaps you're doing it to exploit a bug, or to play most of the game in a known "easy" version and switch to a "hard" version to claim the win (e.g. tornado nerf). In fact, since the nerf stick is being wielded a lot, the question could perhaps be: Is it scummy to not...

I've never tried Zin, so IDK how to play that god; but it is entirely possible to finish a 3 rune win without seeing any potions of cure mutation... Note that if you did switch and survive the wrath, but don't like it, then you can always switch to TSO more easily too. Crypt is the place to build TS...

When Vehumet boosts your spellpower and then gives you back enough MP to keep spamming it however tough your opponents might be: The ice storm engulfs the orb of fire. The orb of fire partially resists. You destroy the orb of fire! The ice storm engulfs the orb of fire. The orb of fire partially res...

Wow, three lessons in less than one minute: The orb of destruction hits your Executioner. _You blow up your Executioner! ⋅ A friendly executioner is apparently faster than an orb of destruction! ⋅ If you want to cut something out of a Putty terminal, use the left mouse button. Th...

Aw. I was looking forward to your 15 rune victory post. :( Regarding the near death experiences: My favorite way to deal with OOFs is OOD! :) Unless anyone else has a better method? But I've come to the realization that it's not killing the OOF that's the problem, but when you sink your last MP into...

Many of the suggestions here seem very well thought out and balanced. Much as I enjoy an easy spellcaster win, I would like to see melee characters relatively boosted a little. (Although I do think Crawl already does a lot better than most other roguelikes in this regard.) However, Devs, please do n...

Hmm, given that I will be going for the extended endgame, I'm not totally sure about the electrocution brand for flying demons. We'll see. How worthwhile is it to train up dodging on a dedicated conjurer? If it is worth it, how far? (Given the time frame/xp of a 3 rune game) Absolutely. It can depen...

I am playing a polearm wielding DSWz (actually as a bit of a hybrid) and want a good suggestion for an endgame weapon in trunk (which means inbuilt reaching). As I've got a shield of resistance too, it seems that a demon-trident is almost a no-brainer, but what brand should I aspire to? My main spel...

What he said. ;) Slime is usually easy for an ice-mage, but watch for things that can mutate or paralyze you. Refrigeration is just awesome there, and don't forget that although the RJ is nasty, it doesn't regenerate if you have to flee. :) Tomb is hard and can present a significant challenge as the...

Depends a little on which version you're playing. Note that trunk now has inbuilt reaching on polearms (don't forget that Tab will auto-activate this). As an AK, if you're planning to put a distortion brand on later, then it's worth keeping the opportunity for a free extra hit in mind too. - I am to...

When I start just spamming freezing clouds everywhere to clear a level (with Vehumet's help) and I come across Frances' skeleton without ever encountering a live Frances.

I'd leave it on. The wiki is often a little outdated or corresponds too strictly to a particular play style. There are several uniques or tough monsters who can provide nearly instadeaths in the early game when you don't have many resources. You can avoid a lot of those creatures simply by not wakin...

Ok, this is almost great: the amulet "Qobuplev" {Cons -CAST Dex+4 Int+3 Acc+6} Although I am not sure quite what my DsWz will do with it. The +Int helps with spell hunger; -CAST solves it entirely! :lol: I was thinking that it would be great for an early TrBe: Cons and Acc+6 are always gr...

Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking.

Oh, I didn't think ghosts could be generated on D:1, so I checked: The wiki suggests not 1, 2 or Temple. I don't know if that applies for tournaments.
So D:3 would be the earliest. - Yes, Malfada is starting to look intentional to me.

Maybe on the orb run? A TrTm in a labyrinth, where most people won't have dispel yet, also sounds amusing. :mrgreen: But, I must admit that I had a DsWz with >300Hp who could spam both icestorm and tornado that I was tempted to let die around that level for the same reason. :twisted: Maybe some veno...

I like the "feel" of these names, which presumably came from some ancient demon tongue whose speakers might not have had the same set of vocal chords or intellectual limits as mere humans. :evil:

I want to keep item destruction I now have a vague fear that someone will suggest making runes flammable... :lol: This would lead to funny things like potion of fog and scrolls of cure mutation. Actually, I could live with both of those: A potion that evaporates as soon as you open it and a scroll ...

However tough you think your DS is, an Ettin with a (and possibly two) great mace of holy wrath can hit you for over 100 HP of damage in a single turn.

Also: There is a good chance that in the mid/late game your freezing cloud spamming DsWz will need those extra few HP from training fighting.

Is it theoretically possible to get ALL resists at the same time? I think that it's impossible to do so unless there was a race that could wear more than one amulet. rMut and rCorr take up the same spot. I think it would be pretty easy to fill all the elemental resistances, though, if you Necromuta...

Well, what I like about Serne's items above is that he can wear them all together. With that in mind, I just found: X - the +2 pair of gloves of Hadjma (worn) {rF+ Int+2 Stlth++} n - the +1 pair of gloves of Wonder {Dex+1 Int+5} S - the +2 pair of gloves of Jisew {+Blink rPois rF+ rC+ MR SInv} Sigh....

Ok, this is almost great:
the amulet "Qobuplev" {Cons -CAST Dex+4 Int+3 Acc+6}
Although I am not sure quite what my DsWz will do with it.

I really like it: My opinion is that there should be a lot more really good artifacts with -CAST to make the melee vs magic choice more difficult...

When your kraken zombie kills Mennas on shoals:5.
Oddly appropriate. :twisted:

It seems to have been rather a dry spell for me, but this turned up in a labyrinth just before the end of the lair and seems to be one of the most useful early game items I've seen in a while: the amulet "Zetriffye" (around neck) {Gourm +Blink +Inv MR Dex+3} I'm a trident-wielding DS who a...

Well, I haven't checked the code, but about the first item of jewelery I found this game was the same ring and IMO: no.
Are you doing something else? Casting a lot of spells perhaps?
If not, and you're playing melee, maybe those little bits of damage trigger the hunger cost?

I had a crawl dream. My character was apparently on zot:6, although it looked more like crypt, and neither I nor the monsters were high level. :?: There were lots of undead. The layout was strange, with a fairly regular, grid-like array of square rooms linked by single width corridors. It was a litt...

I'm always happy to see a red or white draconian, especially when playing a caster of the opposite elemental school. -2 aptitude (+2-4) is not terrible, and it's intriguing to be able to effectively train fire and ice alongside each other. Nice! Thanks for the idea - I had believed the opposite and...

If you are playing a venom mage then the first few levels will be stuffed with imps. That is until you reach the point where they are stuffed with wandering mushrooms and the undead instead...
I'm sure a heavily fighter would have encountered lots of ogres and giants by this point instead. Sigh.

Well, I'd still put that name in the "awesome" category; it gave me a big laugh. :) Just to add a couple of things: Shadow creatures is great in Zot, but crappy in Tomb. (IME) You might want another summoning spell, but watch out for greater Mummies just abdjuring your whole army. You'll n...

Quick reply only: Ice storm. :) You might want to build for necromutation for tomb? Or some way to summon lots of allies to absorb the curses. Otherwise, be very slow and cautious. Also IMO this is one of the most dangerous parts of the game, and can be worse than Pan depending on class/religion. I ...

Well, nagas and any mage with mephitic cloud rarely have bee problems...

I think it would be cool if the bee vault rooms were made out of wax walls so you can tell what's inside and what you're getting yourself into.

This is an excellent idea!

After you have a character get 4 runes, clear Zot, then YASD in Hell, all without finding a single reliable way to levitate, to the extent that you check to see if levitation has been removed by a nerf-happy developer, then: ⋅ The first piece of jewelery your next character finds will be a...

And on a similar level: Maybe...maybe the dungeon already is a giant intestinal tract, and you are a tapeworm hallcuinating that he's an HEAE or whatever on a mighty adventure! When really you're just swimming around in excreta. No. ... Next thing you'll be suggesting is that I am not really a Troll...

Does anyone else think that playing a tapeworm would just be a pain in the ass?
:lol:

I just had a similar experience in Hell. For me it was paralysis from a Lich summoned by the Hell effect, but many of the same ideas apply: From over 220 HP to dead without any turns to do anything. I was mostly relying on EV and SH, which are cancelled by paralysis. In my case, my tactics were more...

okay, news flash: The new abyss is actually scary. And I foolishly didn't realize there was a new abyss. A fiend caught me when I had already been taken down to around 50 HP, and I didn't really have any good escape options. :/ A tip from one of Minmay's posts about the abyss: Try blink... There's ...

This is an odd problem: Has this been taken out of 0.10? Or am I just unlucky? (Or dumb? ;)) Search flight, not fly. Flight still exists (and is in fact only level 3 now); fly never did. Alternatively, there should be an entrance about halfway around the lava pool. Ok, the answer was "dumb&quo...

Oh well, no need to bother with my question: I died on Tar:5. :( Hell effects summoned a Shadow Fiend, a lich, a reaper, a balrug, a hellion, 3 hell hounds and a shadow dragon skeleton to surround me in an open space. No problem, I thought: I had ok resists and decent EV and SH, so aside from tormen...

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