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No, we've just gotten to the part where we secretly arrange assassinations of all the other participants.

I'm glad you survived, but any strategy that brought you down to 10 HP should not be described as having "worked," rather, you got very lucky pulling off something that you shouldn't have done unless you had literally no other option. With AC and EV that low, in particular, stair dancing ...

Take the staircase to your left upstairs, kill the two yaks that come up with you, rest up fully, go invisible, call a brother in arms (or two if you get a lame bro), take them downstairs, berserk, beat the enemies up and be sure not to be in the basilisk's line of fire. Maybe this is a bad plan but...

For what it's worth, I beat my first troll a few games back, and after reading this thread went through the Wiki article for a thorough gutting. Too little, too late perhaps, but oh well. If any of you would be so kind as to give it a once over and point out any blatant fallacies or things left out...

Trolls are objectively (well, I'm not in a position to say objectively, but the blue-names are if any care to confirm or deny this) one of the strongest species in the game, they do not need a buff. If they seem underpowered to you, my guess is you are wasting experience on throwing and not training...

Dungeon Crawl: Ye'elimite Yakamein
Yakamein is the only soup I have seriously considered eating with a knife and fork. Perhaps a soup I have yet to encounter will change that.

I will play Dungeon Crawl for gumbo

Stand away from water. Throw dart over submerged thing so it unsubmerges. Damage it with something (conjuration, polearm, whatever). Rinse and repeat. I'm not sure if the above method still works - I know I've done it before, but it's been a while since I've wanted to and maybe it got changed. I hop...

So usually I go vehumet for the perks to conjurations, but have been trying a few runs with sif. I can never seems to get the sif followers much of anywhere. I guess I am wondering if Sif is worth trying a few more attempts at? The channeling doesnt seems to give much MP back... I recommend you do ...

Well if has rF/rC then you'd be better off with regular arrows I think...

Yes they do, though I do not see exactly why you are asking...
Also please edit your post and put the dump between code tags: [code][/code]
That way it will be scrollable.

I guess you play casters/Mu mostly or other characters who are weak early and become stronger later. Try TrMo and let me know if you still think late game is easier than pre-Lair ;) Book backgrounds are not particularly weak early...in fact I'm pretty sure DECj is one of the most guaranteed D:1 sur...

I'm sure you realize it's much better to not get INTO these situations, but as for getting out, I'd probably use speed, tele, curing, heal wounds? Then again tele is pretty bad on an unexplored level...idk this looks really horrible. Does a scroll of blink break constriction? If so I'd probably blin...

Sandman25 wrote:Congratulations!

Stab damage is random, it's still possible to cause 30 damage with stabbing 27 and +9 Sabre if you are unlucky to roll 1 as base damage

Actually on a sleeping target I think you'd be guaranteed about 300 damage

CrazyJ wrote:I'm not too sure though that a mainly ranged character is that viable without either Okawaru or Trog to hand out extra ammo, especially with a crossbow user.

IMO for a hunter Fedhas is better than Trog and perhaps better than Okawaru

What if mummies don't actually curse your stuff but just inflict a status condition wherein you can't unequip any of your equipment (like temporarily cursing all of your stuff, except the status is on the player rather than on any items)?

crate wrote:Assassin is a gladiator that picked up a blowgun instead of nets.

Then where's mah frickin TRIDENT

tasonir wrote:A pack of dispersal arrow monsters does not blink the player around randomly; that many hits and you'll be banished to the abyss. Without an MR check. Not a fan of this concept, although the unique is otherwise good.

Dispersal is not distortion

Forest Flattener? Forest Feller? Forest Finisher? Forest Feezer? Forest Festinator? Forest Flaneur? Forest Farceur? Forest Foiler?

I actually made the weapon switch about midway through lair, which was quite a bad idea because suddenly my sleepstabs became crap and as well as my melee (should've gotten at least 10 polearms first). But I had summoning capability (ice beast at first, then shadow creatures) so nothing could kill m...

Last time I saw Asmodeus he summoned. There were also brimstone fiends accompanying him that were real, which should definitely be killed before you try anything.
I usually "kill" hell lords by using haste, walking to the rune, picking up the rune, and then teleporting.

Banishment isn't smite targeting, so if you can put something between you and the banisher, it can't banish you. Brothers in arms hurts your piety but it will do the trick.

I mentioned this before but it's so trivial I didn't concern myself about it and never brought it to GDD let alone IRC. Interesting to see someone else feel the same way though. Perhaps you'll have more energy than I and actually get it changed.

Posts in GDD are irrelevant to the counsellor status. I liked when his name was blue so I could spot his GDD posts easier. I know that's not what counselor status is supposed to be about, it is just a motivation for me wanting him blue. If it weren't for that bias, perhaps I wouldn't want him blue,...

1. Regarding minmay: If there are strong feelings we'd probably have to put it to a formal public poll. At the end of the day I think counsellorhood should be a community choice, barring strong exceptions. Sometimes I'll read giant threads (especially GDD threads) by just reading the posts of color...

Not only long blades but also clubs (ha!) and stabby polearms: viewtopic.php?p=115118#p115118

I'm pretty sure the species experience modifier is just for levels, not skills.

Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.12.1 (tiles) character file. Sevenburp the Jinx (Deep Elf Enchanter) Turns: 8621, Time: 00:57:14 HP 41/45 AC 7 Str 5 XL: 9 Next: 78% MP 27/27 EV 12 Int 24 God: Ashenzari [......] Gold 303 SH 7 Dex 14 (15) Spells: 6 memorised, 5 levels left Res.Fire : x . . See Inv...

I'd still rather have more interesting spells in the game than less...if this spell wasn't even in the Warper book I'd be happy about it being added because it would create interesting scenarios when I do happen upon it.

How about giving staves a damage bonus, but only if there's at least one space adjacent to both the player and the target, i.e. not in corridors and not when you're crowded: You take a long hard swing with your staff, but for that you need space. Or how about if you get a certain amount (say, 10%) ...

I'm a bit worried that being able to carry all your consumables without any risk or downside would remove a lot of tension. As minmay stated, as it stands with optimal behavior you're never without a nice padding of consumables: carry two or three scrolls of blinking at a time and if you use one or...

I had no idea that bug reporters were able to close tickets. I assumed only developers could do that. I have tons of bugs that I reported that have been resolved, but I didn't know it was my responsibility to close them. That's what I thought too, though I've only reported one bug ever. fwiw after ...

I'm pretty sure recasting corona (and sure blade) doesn't make it any more potent but just gives it a fresh duration. Not positive though.

Why not let throwing ammo stack infinitely like other ammo? It's not like throwing would become overpowered...

AC always helps. Resistances only help when you need them. You can switch on resistances when you need them.

Using haste and finesse, of course I know of that, but why go through the tedium, honestly, when I can just use what is slightly better over all? A finessed character does a whopping 33% more damage than a merely hasted character. If you are dismissing finesse because haste is "slightly better...

I see

Concept: Dueling is a passive effect for long blades that will increase your damage when you land consecutive hits on the same target (making it sort of the antithesis of axe cleaving). Thematically speaking, it represents forcing your opponent into a compromising stance with a series of well-placed...

some12fat2move wrote:Well it seemed likely

Confidence Interval wrote:Only based on your normative presumptions. Not to mention a tendency to believe everything you read online.

note the use of the word LIKELY

Grimm wrote:You're not even Scottish, are you.

It matters not. He will always be Sewers Scotsman in our hearts.

Igxfl wrote:These would really steamroll the dungeon with Earth Magic.

Not if they had bad MP and INT and the earth magic aptitude was just slightly good like +1. Balance can always be tinkered with.

a glaive has a min delay of 7 just like every other weapon with a base delay higher than 130%... Sorry, meant base delay. I'm a bit suspicious of any weapon with a base delay higher than 120 that isn't exclusive to ogres and trolls. My problem, not the games. FYI short blades aren't typically the b...

Confidence Interval wrote:This is not the case.

Well it seemed likely

IIRC you can't be flying and liquefacting at the same time.

Skill-wise I'd suggest either getting nuke spells online and then training melee, or getting badass in melee and then getting spells online...that is to say, be exclusively one or the other for the early game and then hybridize when you can afford to spare the exp. HOFE and HOEE can work but if you ...

notid wrote:Any tips for me? I was exploring the Lair, briefly, before a hydra came my way. Maybe I would have had been able to take it with my rings, but I didn't want to risk it.

Brothers in Arms. Any time you're questioning whether you can handle the situation, Brothers in Arms.

I only raise INT when I care about spell power. I only care about spell power when I use conjurations, hexes, summonings, or elemental magic. Also if INT is really low I might raise it to avoid stat death.

It was a long time ago so I don't remember it very well. If that's the case then it's better than I remember and probably worth starting every fight with against non-cold-resistant monsters.

I wouldn't do lair branches just yet. Orc is easier, and so is D until centaur warriors show up.

I did once, on a SpEn who branched into ice magic for ozo's and bolt of cold. Metabolic englaciation would usually slow stone giants in 2 or 3 casts but it seemed like just shooting bolt of cold worked better. The advantage of metabolic englaciation was its range and radius.

minmay wrote:ok here is another background that is more warrior-mage than Ne by this line of thought: Wz

Wizard sans physical attacks is very doable

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