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...as the OP points out, assassins are a bad stabbing background. This is because relying only on stealth to get stabs is not really enough to carry a character through the game . (Emphasis mine.) I don't really have an opinion on the matter, although I like to play As, and I do it in the naive sen...

Perhaps you can explain how you play As different than a throwing Hu who found an early blowgun? (Hu and Gl are pretty similar as well.) I don't know about dynast but personally I train more stealth and try to stab things. Right, but as the OP points out, assassins are a bad stabbing background. Th...

Pretty big nerf to needles if you remove blowguns, as the enchantment from the launcher can be quite a big help. You can just give them a small inherent, similar boost. I think a similar thing was done when ammo enchantment was removed. Sure. I don't feel strongly either way. There is an advantage ...

Pretty big nerf to needles if you remove blowguns, as the enchantment from the launcher can be quite a big help.

Wiz and int boost are also helpful for minotaur; if OP had played longer, could have used the experience to get some better spells up, and the ring would make that much easier.

Going Trog/Okawaru does not guarantee an "optimal" weapon. This is mostly true in Oka's case, but Trog is exremely reliable to give you a top-level antimagic weapon (which is the best of the best). On an infinite time line, either will give a top-tier weapon eventually . Trog is more reli...

That requires one to be a bit more specific than "good spells." Moreover, good spells for a "non-spellcaster" is an oxymoron. I'm not trying to pick on you with semantics, here; I point this out because I think the awkward phrasing you used is indicative of the ways in which the ...

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Going Trog/Okawaru does not guarantee an "optimal" weapon.

You do not need an optimal weapon to win with any number of runes.

Executioner's axe may not be an optimal choice over a battleaxe, even in a long (15 rune) game.

Good proposal, but can we drop wand of teleportation too? Scrolls of tele have all the same properties except use while silenced and ability to get more from a recharge scroll/Pak, and both of those properties arguably makes the game worse. Yes, this is a good point. There are actually three big of...

Please dont call "wand of elemental blasts" that if it has a non-elemental component, eg. draining. Call it "wand of conjuration" or "boom wand" or "blast wand" or somesuch. Fair point, original name could be misleading. Open to different names, and any of th...

Or... instead of an even more spoilery workaround, maybe Crawl could just avoid this Nethack-like BS in the first place?

You fall through a shaft!
The shaft crumbles and collapses.
Crazy Yiuf the Enlightened comes into view. He is wielding a quarterstaff of chaos.

Mod note: Moved from GDD to CYC.

As the title states, killing the royal jelly should generate runed doors to allow access to each of the treasure vaults in Slime:6. Deciding whether to clear Abyss, Slime, or Vaults (or less commonly a different branch) for the third rune is an interesting strategic decision that should not be denie...

I'm still playing 0.17 locally so maybe it is different now—and it may just be clustering illusion—but outside of Dis Iron Dragons seem to be much less common than Gold Dragons. Usually people end up wearing plate armor over storm/shadow/golden dragon armor anyway, but the latter set of armors argua...

i think 18 base ac (50% more than GDA) is way too good even with ponderousness i mean, people know running is powerful but dislike it; they wouldn't mind the ponderousness That's possible; ponderous is a significant drawback, but 18 base ac is significantly higher than any current armor. Perhaps 16...

Counterproposal: Keep CPA as it is. Introduce following items: Iron Dragon Hide {Ponderous} Base AC: 5 Encumbrance: 25 Iron Dragon Hide, upon being targeted with ?enchant armour, glows and transforms into..... Iron Dragon Armor {Ponderous} Base AC: 18 Encumbrance: 25 Iron Dragon corpses have chance ...

Yes, overlap of Heal Wounds, Hasting, Teleportation is unfortunate. They could be removed. (Potions of haste could be made slightly more common, in compensation... Or not.) I think an argument can be made for "just six wands" based on that, even if our mummy fans will wince in horror at th...

I appreciate the efforts to compress the number of wands so as to reduce clutter and ensure that each has a potentially interesting effect. If the developers want to continue along these lines, I offer the following proposal, which incorporates a good idea that fortunately emerged in the discussion ...

Another general tip is put stats where they seem to help the most short-term. Don't put stat ups into dex until you are training dodging (or just about to start). Don't put stat ups into intelligence if you already have good spell power and success on all your currently memorized spells, unless you ...

Off topic: Pak can just gift ?recharging....

With the change of how the distraction power works, there really is no reason for the gold not to be added directly to your inventory. The "midas touch" flavor still works; Gozag, being a fine businessgod, just makes sure the transaction goes as smoothly and conveniently as possible for th...

Right — There's a set of branches that already have bad stuff happen to you randomly (Hell), and a god that can provide a similar experience for most of the game. What traps do is link the "bad stuff happens" to exploration, which doesn't interact well with autoexplore and does technically...

apportation, blink, haste, regeneration, repel missiles, swiftness, summon butterflies, spectral weapon, animate skeleton Wow! So insightful! What other spells would you add to the list, without adding further qualifiers specifying the kinds of characters/situations for which the spells are good? I...

There's a problem here that is similar to a lot of the information on the wiki, which is that when you simply list spells in order like this and give a description, you actually lose perspective about when and how they are useful in games that actual people will actually play . I think two bigger p...

There's a problem here that is similar to a lot of the information on the wiki, which is that when you simply list spells in order like this and give a description, you actually lose perspective about when and how they are useful in games that actual people will actually play . Any of the spells con...

D1 adders can quite easily lead to unavoidable death. Nothing theoretical about it. Simple, people. Keep it simple. But if you die in the early game, you do not lose a lot of progress/are not as invested in the character. Yes, but the later you go in the game, the chances of a truly unavoidable deat...

Yes, OP didn't meet the guidelines of GDD, buuuut then there's this: I don't actually think it's that bad of an idea. There's been more than a few times I've thought the enemy is fully alive because I couldn't see his health bar, but then notice that he's nearly dead. How often do people have this p...

I should have known better than to suggest removing labyrinths. Inevitably it leads to people chiming in with suggestions to make them worse!

One option would be not allowing minotaur to pick up wands, scrolls, rings of teleportation, nor artefacts with the */+ teleport property. Another would be to make labyrinths no teleportation zones. This would make labs slightly more dangerous, without really making them more interesting. This might...

having an extra set of arms doesn't magically make you able to wield tree trunks Or, alternatively, having an extra set of arms does magically make you able to wield tree trunks... (I mean, it isn't like ogres with low strength attribute are barred from using giant weapons, so really the flavor is ...

I think the summons should disappear, as if you had banished the summoner. Currently neither slimify nor successful polymorph will cause summons to time out. Not sure if this is a bug or an intentional feature, but it seems to me that either of these effects should unsummon any allies created by the...

Still encourages scumming if it is enemy-only elemental damage. In fact it would be scumming of a more annoying variety than walking into your own clouds: Kite around a fire drake and let it pepper you with flame blasts until you get enough rF. The idea of an item that "powers up" over tim...

Nice character. I'd get a bit more fighting skill and maybe evocations before training spells. This character doesn't have high dex but you could get a few points of EV cheaply by training dodging, as you currently have nothing invested in it. Even with a bad aptitude the first ~10 levels of any ski...

This is a hilarious topic. It's like watching people trying to logic why you can't just walk past the trees in Poke'mon, you haaave to use Cut. People are joking around with the explanations, but the basic point in the OP valid. Up to a point, flavor is arbitrary, but it should be consistent. I hon...

You generally want to train dodging even on guys in heavy armor. You should train armor first though. On this character you got bad returns on investment for dodging, but that's not because you have plate armor on; it is because you have 8 dexterity. (You didn't raise dex on level up and you have cl...

Like Sar, if I am going for more than three runes I usually do make a stash with books and ?recharging, etc., but I don't bother even picking up ?remove curse and the like after a certain point, whether I make a stash or not. And I just make the stash wherever, no reason to put in Lair particularly...

@tabstorm: Already addressed the zig-zag tunnel problem in the OP Only in the sense that you addressed that you have no idea how to solve it... Unless I am misunderstanding what tabstorm was getting at, I did mention in the OP how one could avoid that particular problem. There's any number of ways ...

BabyRage wrote:Welp, I foolishly decided to learn Necromutation instead of Borgnjor's, just because I wanted. And I paid for that.

At least you learned something!

In general, regarding strategy: + Don't think you need to take Sif or Vehumet just because you started with a book. For one thing, Kiku is much stronger if you want a god that gives you access to more spells. For another, plenty of other gods are very strong for book backgrounds despite not directly...

Intelligence stat matters for casting, and ghouls suffer in that department. Eventually you can get decent to good int, but it takes a while. You can do fine with book starts on ghouls, but playing them as a ~~caster~~ from the start is a bit rough in my opinion. Book of Geomancy is good in general,...

@tabstorm: Already addressed the zig-zag tunnel problem in the OP, though there would still potentially be awkward situations in terms of how exactly "cave-in" would work. The other points were addressed subsequently in the thread. I have already conceded that making digging charges more s...

In that case, I would say simply replace paralysis with petrification. (Or, replace all petrification and paralysis with the revised version of paralysis you recommend; the number of turns of "you are growing numb" before paralysis could vary in inverse proportion to spellpower, but never ...

Anyway, I hope people stop bashing Okawaru's gifts... I was (obviously) unusually lucky with armor in both games. I think Okie was making amends for all the times he treated my character like a thrift store, dumping +0 hats on them and randarts with severely negative enchantment. Still, I find in m...

Well, the main thing is that you haven't trained a weapon skill at all, which means you are not nearly as strong or as flexible as you could be. This is particularly a problem in extended, where you will have to deal with things like hell effects and (in Pan) situations where you can't just run upst...

Getting back in the swing of things with two fun, quick, no-nonsense ascensions. Both characters had some great luck with weapons / amor. Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.17.1-1 (tiles) character file. 1603908 Ihoha the Slayer (level 27, 222/222 HPs) Began as a Demonspawn Gladiator on July 12, 201...

Hate to start off with bikeshedding, but "android" just strikes me as being really out of step with Crawl's aesthetic. Are you married to that aspect of the flavor, or would rebranding it as some sort of golem-hybrid or something be ok? One idea would be to make them magic immune, which wo...

Gozag is the gold god.

It is rare that you don't find any good evocable items in the course of the game, but a more common situation is that you don't find good evocables until middle- or late game, i.e., past the point when pretty much every character would want to invest some experience in melee capability. Even if you ...

FYI jwoodward, duvessa posted a thorough spoiler/advice thread regarding acquirement: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=5&p=271207#p271207 Here's a direct link to the flowchart duvessa made based on the code: http://i.imgur.com/dl7aXwH.png I put it in spoiler tags but figuring ...

Like Sar, if I am going for more than three runes I usually do make a stash with books and ?recharging, etc., but I don't bother even picking up ?remove curse and the like after a certain point, whether I make a stash or not. And I just make the stash wherever, no reason to put in Lair particularly.

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