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There's nothing spoilery about it. It's mentioned in-game (in ?F). Sure, make it more prominent if you like. None of the proposed "solutions" makes any sense, and would be much more difficult or tedious to implement. The aim of the current approach is to give an incentive to make people fi...

Dunno.

EtadanikM wrote:I'm sure the topic has come up before

Indeed, it has, the latest one a couple of months ago.

Trudging backwards and forwards in the snow each day, and both sides uphill.

I don't think the last possibility is much of an issue. In virtually all cases, you would be much better off worshipping a god which you actually want to and building piety with it.

You can give justifications for anything. I come back to my favourite thought experiment: Suppose Mummies couldn't use potion petition, like they can't use berserk or get mutated by Jiyva. Would a GDD proposal suggesting that they could use potion petition (but not the other things) be accepted? Wha...

Btw, on one point above: SpBe can use needle-stabbing. Trog gifts lots of needles.

Of course, using a crossbow is possible too.

I suspect that you probably had some cushion. Could you post three of your morgues/char dumps where you felt that you were close to running out of food? See also this thread.

Anyway, as I said, spell hunger is not a clock, so it's a separate discussion altogether.

Broad axes are better than war axes (once you have sufficient Axes skill). You can't really calculate damage the way you're doing it: the formula is much more complex. If in doubt, use fsim.

In general, vampiric broad axes are pretty good. Wield it and dump all your enchants into it.

chequers wrote:Spell hunger is still relatively significant, especially for newer players.

{{citation needed}}

Spell hunger is not a clock anyway.

[This proposal is short, but still serious.]

Why doesn't Gozag have piety decay? One could simply make the "greed god" take some "fee" on your money, if you wait around too long.

Wouldn't that logic also support removing racial restrictions on worship? Besides, it is much easier and cleaner to remove a bad case rather than add more bad cases in the name of "logic". I would prefer the OP. It's removing a clear, limited case of Mummies using Gozag to get around racia...

I will take winrate seriously if and when I get paid for playing Crawl. This is not to say that winrate is completely meaningless, but the numbers should be taken with a boulder of salt. Besides, (as I have ranted about elsewhere), winrate is neither the best nor the most fun metric to optimize, eve...

Coming back to topic, I think anything can be made "hard" by imposing appropriate conducts and using an appropriate measure of your success (preferably not winrate). It's also more fun that way.

Berder wrote:I'd like to draw attention to this once again - this is straight harassment and against forum rules.

You can use the "report post" button on the bottom right of the post to contact a forum mod.

There's too little hard data here. Please run some Tavern-scraping scripts which quantify the prevalence of each meme. Also, rank them by their Tavern-thank potential.

I think 21-23 Axes is a bit too low. Let's disregard aux attacks for now, and look at a plain Human with 20 Str. I fsim'ed +5 axes of chopping against a fire giant, and the exec axe only caught up around 23 Axes. However, the exec axe had higher variance. 24 axes might be a bit too high. About 23 Ax...

Congrats on your win.

For future reference, a shield (or large shield) is pretty good on a TrBe.

An updated char dump would be useful. You seem to have already used up Lugonu's corrupt weapon ability? A distortion battleaxe would have been pretty good, but you only seem to have a +5 vorpal one. A vamp exec axe is pretty good, but not strictly necessary. If you have XP to spare, and the axe has ...

Summons/zombies are basically damage over time spells. Damage over time spells work like this: damage per unit time is lower, total damage is higher (for the same MP). Naga Sharpshooters are, of course, the hardest case for this kind of spell. Btw, metabolic englaciation is pretty good in Snake. You...

The current formula is (player.cc, function player::adjusted_body_armour_penalty):

Code:: 2 * base_ev_penalty * base_ev_penalty * (450 - skill(SK_ARMOUR, 10)) * scale / (5 * (strength() + 3)) / 450;

Every body armour has an encumbrance rating (ER), shown in the item description. With low str, wearing armour with high ER will result in a penalty: your armour will sometimes get in the way of your melee attacks, your EV will drop, and your spell failure rate will be higher. In particular, there's...

It's probably not good as a GrEE to only train conj for the first 6 XL. The OP is a relative newbie and have trouble getting past D:10. Such a skill-training table will likely confuse them.

OP should post a character dump or morgue here (or two or three of them if they like). It makes the advice more concrete. It also lets people here see more of the picture; sometimes what you think are doing wrong, is not what you're doing wrong -- the error is more basic and something else altogether.

I don't play in the tournament, and I have no idea if it can lead to health problems. But I noticed this suggestion in mibe's tournament guide : TL;DR Get a long streak, speedrun a few times, and win a lot. Also play 10+ hours a day. 10+ hours a day for the entire tournament duration doesn't sound h...

I don't know who proposed what. But as I said, that proposal would sever the link between an item and its inventory letter. A potion having two different letters in two different contexts would be very confusing. I don't really see the gain which follows such pain. Comparing it to spell library does...

It's not clear how best to implement an infinite inventory. If I understand you correctly, you're proposing that there be multiple pages of inventory, and by pressing spacebar, you can scroll through them, and label items on each page with "a-z A-Z"? One of the disadvantages of this propos...

I don't like the proposal. Doesn't seem to change the situation in any meaningful way.

Really, 52 slots is enough to carry everything you want.

The thread is about Mummy, not necromancer.

It's not clear why this thread is in GDD. It's a complaint rather than a proposal.

Interesting idea.

For a "mage"-type character, a +3 buckler with MP restoration would be better than a typical shield for a fairly long time. I don't think it would imply much of a meaningful choice in that time period. But many unrandarts are like this, so it's not really a big issue.

You can use objstat to check most of these suspicions. Probably all of them would be wrong.

Ok, now I get you.

VeryAngryFelid wrote:
bel wrote:are characters ever meaningfully limited by their MP when using God spells?

Of course. Otherwise everyone might spam god spells as long as piety allows it and OP would not exist.

Berder says that brutes are never limited by MP, and you thanked him. So I don't understand your comment here at all.

Leaving aside my opinion of the worth of the various arguments put forth, it is worth looking at the following issue. Most of the discussion has been about whether the MP cost is "biased" towards brutes or mages. Let's assume that the arguments against Berder's post are completely valid: t...

Let's use our standard approach i.e. let's assume that currently invocations depend on some special "InvocationsPoints" bar and someone created a new thread in GDD suggesting to remove it and use MP instead. Would that idea get approved by devs and why? As I said already, the use of MP is...

14 MP is not even enough for one slouch followed by one step from time.

Besides, max MP is not the relevant consideration; current MP is.

Perhaps you should read the posts in this thread, where just these questions were debated thoroughly. You may agree or disagree, but at least you won't repeat questions which have already been discussed.

Maybe over a +0 unbranded weapon (though I have my doubts about that too). But surely you don't enchant your venom dagger? In that case, it's better to use a "real" weapon and enchant it.

Btw, finding a Ru altar as an atheist and not immediately worshipping is also an unambiguous mistake.

But God selection in Crawl is weird anyway, so I don't bother using this criterion.

Hrm, nvm.

I also consider Shock to be better, for reasons pretty much the same as Berder.

Freeze is pretty good too. I too rarely if ever bother to learn Freeze from Vehumet. I have probably learnt Sandblast more than I've learnt Freeze.

Anyway, this is probably off-topic.

[Edit: nvm about the earlier version of this post.] You've carved out plenty of non-trivial exceptions there. I can think of even more, which you didn't mention: Chei abilities cost a lot of MP, so do Lugonu abilities. So Qaz is not the only relevant god here. Also, keep in mind that if you're train...

Can we not turn this into another math/shield thread? You are free to go wild, but keep it confined to an area where the others can ignore it.

No, that's not the way it works. Brutes still have a max MP. So, say, if they have 10 MP and the god ability costs 5, they will only get 2 uses max in a fight. While mages with more MP will get > 2 uses.

In wizmode testing, with one yara's I only got a death yak from 13% hex chance to 32% hex chance. So probably Siegurt is simply misremembering.

There is a concept in economics called opportunity cost . To a mage, the opportunity cost of using a god ability that costs MP, is high, because it prevents them from using that same MP to cast a spell. To a brute, the opportunity cost of using the same ability is low, because there is nothing else...

The spell level on utility spells often works more as a gating mechanism, rather than anything specifically having to do with MP costs. So in, say, the Controlled Blink case the "mage" types will typically find Controlled Blink much easier to learn (and cast).

Berder might be talking about lvl 1 conjuration spells. Shock is pretty close to the top, though Freeze may be better.

The basic idea, in my guess, it is that god powers should have a long-term as well as a short-term cost. This is presumably so you can't use the god powers too frequently over the whole game (long-term), and can't use it too frequently during a fight (short-term). Piety costs exist for the former pu...

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